₦airaland Forum

RSA:
I just had a hair cut an hour ago at this Ghananian hair salon,I asked Kwame what does he think about nigerians,he just laugh and said those people are hustlers,they will do anything to get money even crime and most of them don't even go to school.
He told me that Nigerians in Nigeria even have their own currency not naira,like they created their own money they use among themself.

Morpheus to be honest with you,I wsh Nigeria was succesfull,I wish Nigerians had ghana's heart and humility,I wish Nigerians could for a second start listen to other,I wish they could stop being arrogant since there is nothing to boast about.Wish they could all grow up.

I was just chatting with a couple of kenyan friends of mine and we were talking about SA's in general. They said you guys are one of the most hostile individuals they have ever met, ignorant of things around you, ignorant of other Africans and living your lives like "akata's" without any morals, having illicit sex and having babies all around the places.

I honestly pray for ya'll to wake up and see what is going on around you. Nigerians are not your enemies and will never be, we don't have the time. You are living behind enemy lines and don't even know it. Feel very sorry for you and your stadiums. You contrlo nothing, simple illusions manifested to control you asses.

As for your barber, tell him the story of the three Africans stranded on an island in my earlier post and watch his reaction.
You will get all your answers from there.

MandingoII:
Then you LOVE African Americans.


Let me hear you say it.

say it Morpheus, "I love African Americans", SAY IT!

If you take a closer look you will observe that SA blacks and AA's are suffering from the same ailment. [b]POST TRAUMATIC SLAVE DISORDER [/b]and have truly lost what it means to be African or connected to that continent. All they can point to is the color of their skin as their identity.


Respect for Malcolm X and Nelson mandela

Sorry no Respect for  AA"s  and SA's of this Generation who have obviously lost their way.

LONG LIVE THE TRUE AFRICANS!

RSA:
No one is trying to divide anyone,you can't divide what has never been united.
Did you read what the poster said,people died because of inhumane way they where treated.
So you think Africa and Africans forgot what you did?

Ghana people are the most hardworking and gentle people in our continent,in my books they are the real giants of africa,I have ghananian friends in south africa and they don't hate nigerians but hate their attitude as much as south africans.

I keep telling you those Ghana boys are mumu'ing you. They know where their loyalties lie. That gentleness you see is so you will not know what they are really up too. Ghana has known Nigeria since the beginning of the independence struggle in West Africa and to think they will side your whitewashed brains on any issue is a mistake.

As for xenophobia, well obviously South Africans are the champions of that, no doubt

If you like don't take my word for it.

"The Ghana must go Saga is still being used today as some sort of excuse by Ghanaians.

FACT: The generation that did that to you is long gone and anyone below the age of 35 talking about that did not experience any of that so should have not prejudice.

Fact: SA try to use Ghana as an example of another country that hate Nigerians. "Mumu", when will you learn.

Put a South African, A Nigerian and A Ghanaian on a deserted island and tell them the only way off the island was going East or West. The Nigerian man insists on West and the SA goes East. The Ghanaian is left to choose either of  the the two directions

A million rand I can Guess which one he would pick?

RSA:
@morpheus24,at least you can blame our ills on being brainwashed,Nigerians according to you are not ,but their country is not going forward.What do you blame that on,being pure african?
The reason we are better than you is because we are not selfish,we work together as a team,there is no bigman.if you develop that,like Mbeki we take you out.It is pointless to us to build a palace next to a mudhut and you still don't have the road to go to your house.
If you went to Soweto in 1993,you don't need to be an expect to see the development of that area,which was neglected by apaartheid goverment.The is a shopping mall bigger than any mall in your whole country,the roads are all tared,the biggest and busiest public hospital in Africa is being renovated to meet world class standard.
The biggest stadium in Africa is being renovated(with a seat capacity of 97000),all this in Soweto.Sowetans are building their township into a city,highway and byways are being contracted.Im mentioning soweto as an example,we have lot going on in our country including crime and aids to say we have inferior complex because we don't respect criminals and fraudsters is far from the truth.
There are good Nigerians in South Africa but they are minority,majority are in Hillbrow,Sunnihill in Pretoria and other places around the country doing shaby businesses.
One of the fact is we don't have influx of your professionals in busineses or even in goverment sectors.There might be one or two but not at the rate that your dreaming of.

Again the yard stick you use to measure sensibility and civilized societies is the building of stadiums and roads, shopping malls and skyscrapers, which is why I say you are brainwashed.

Fact: There are about 150 millions Nigerians within and outside of Nigeria. 95% of them grind it out everyday going to school, feeding their families, flourishing and prospering in the most hostile of enviroments without resorting to stealing, fraud or any sort of dubious act, to allow you to codemn those people because you see a mere lower class 3% behaving irresponsibly in your Hillbrow's and Sunnyhills is insulting and demeaning and I will have none of that from any ignorant buffon!

In my book the resiliance and prosperitiy of a people in the face of hatred, marginilization, deception and killings  is the "yardstick" I use to judge their progress. In my view SA have lost that history and are now "Model C" citizens of your new Rainbow nation which a majority of the people are waiting for the spoils of war as compensation for Apatheid

LONG LIVE THE TRUE AFRICANS!

MandingoII:
SO WHAT!!!!

South africa got issues!!!!!

and NIGERIA IS A BIG OLE SLUM!!

If they don't want you in their country and its their country policy to BANISH you. THEN LEAVE!!!

Stop acting like Nigeria is better than South Africa, IT IS NOT!

If Nigeria was ALL THAT then why are pissed off with South Africa?

You just MAD because they don't want YOU in their country.

Stop being TRIBAL!!!!! South Africa is NOT your issue, YOUR CORRUPT GOVERNMENT IS YOUR ISSUE!

To all SA as well as MandingoII who is obviously a "mumu" African in disguise.

NIGERIANS ARE NOT YOUR ISSUE, YOUR LACK OF EDUCATION , AIDS, LAZINESS AND LACK OF CIVILIZED BEHAVIOR IS YOUR ISSUE, FACE IT!

You are just realizing this today?

Lagosboy:
If you read my comments well you would see i stated that of course one can disagree with the US of Africa but it was his reasons i commented on.

Back to you.

Arab Nationalist - Black Christians I cant see any opposing words in here.

Let me tell you i am not a fan of Ghaddaffi neither am i in support of the US of Africa like he wants it. My problem with you guys is must you see every single issue from a religious bias?

Cant a simple foreign affairs thread be debated and analysed without your religious toxic. Since when has arab nationalism has anything to do wth religion that Ghaddaffi would never like black christians. Are there not Arab christians?

This thread should not be derailed with religious sentiments and lets analyse ad discuss with intellect please!!!

My guy stop burying your head in the sand and wake up.If Ghaddafi had any senses at all he would understand the conmplexity and fairly young democratic age of several African countries.

To advocate for a United states of Africa at this early stage of African democracy goes to show how detached Ghadaffi is from African affairs and how ludacris the idea is. If simpletons like myself can make such clear cut observations then it should be easy for one to be able to sniff out an alterior motive by tracking this man's past political agendas.

I don't think "Arabization" is a far fetched concept in this case.

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Kill! Kill ! Kill the Infidel

RichyBlacK:
I've always found "the Colonel" to be a charismatic fellow, and on this idea of a United States of Africa, I support him 100%.

Africa's disunity, a recursive reality down into her innermost enclaves, is the biggest impediment to her growth and success.

So he can Arabize our peoples. Please don't you think english and French are already hard enough to be speaking left and right.

Can't take that arabic gibberish too!

Let the Africans concentrate on national and regional blocks first before talking about United states of Africa. We are not there yet.

RSA:
You are talking crap you don't know shit about south africa,education is by far the most important thing for this goverment and it is free,it is in our constitution that every child have a right to education,so the illitiracy shit is a myth,even the adult have special educational programmes they attend after work.All students pass their final school exams with university entrance marks are guranteed a goverment bursary to study at home or abroad.

Yes HIV is a problem,yes crime is a problem,and we are working on finding the solution,and I know we will.
White will never leave south africa it is thier home and they are our brothers,we made peace with them and are moving forward.They are better and closer brothers than Nigerians,I will rather die for a white south african than Nigerian.
Whatever you guys did for Mbeki and his friend don't concern us,during aapartheid days I for one never recieved a food parcel from Nigeria(beside why would you send food to us while your people where starving?it beat me.)

We all know that Nigerians feels like Jamaicans,ghananians,african americans,kenyans are jealous of them so south africa with all her continuing successes is not exempt.
Come to South Africa if you want to see how organised we are as a nation.Stop coming up with stories that will make you feel better about being in that banana federation.Get a freaking life.

Brainwahsed slowpoke. You would die for them but in a nisntant they would offer you as a lamb to the slaughter.


Long live the true Africans

Down with the Afrikaaners and their "House negro" compatriots

Mpele:
OLD NEWS, come up with something. Black South Africans have no time for third world, bafoons.

Of course, they are too busy on line waiting for government handouts.

Up ZUMA!

I don't see a problem in having an affinity for one's ethnic group and nationality at the same time as long as one recognizes the equal rights of other ethnic groups that make up the country

Are we the first nation on this planet to have such a complex make up?

it is definitely doable!

RSA:
Three of those 4 accused are from Zimbabwe,only one guy is South African.Maybe the guy was right in saying he didn't know that the guy was Lucky Dube,because he is not a local.

And your point is?

lucabrasi:
not when the numbers are dis united or under an un in spiring leadership

You underestimate the Nigerian Spirit, Start killing them and see what happens, especially the igbo's

[quote author=.B.O.S.S. link=topic=228554.msg3424509#msg3424509 date=1233750968]this is starting from SA, watch how it will spread to other countries - the slogan will be, KILL THEM NIGERIAN NIGGERS.[/quote]Guy don't worry about that there is like 200milliion of us if you reduce that size to half it won't even be enough if you add the whole of southern Africa's population combined.

Strength is in numbers.

olabowale:
@morpheus24 « #34 on: January 29, 2009, 04:06 PM »
Because it was the language of Adam, being the first man, does not have to be complex. It should be simple, since it had to expand in territory and space, as humans grew from he and his bride Hawa. For example, my mother and me have the same voice and speech inflections. my bride when speaking to my aged mother, if not face to face may think its me. Even my mother know this for herself. She said it the other day. She took her fathers voice, and by this, I actually took her father's voice.


Alafia in african language is "Afia" in Fusat. "Rafah" is rafter in English, which means elevate as in raised up.


Ahadith of the prophet (AS) says Qur'aanic language is the language of jannah. Prophet Daud (AS) will be required to read the Qur'aan in the day of Judgement. In Isra wa Miraj, Muhammad (AS) spoke to Allah, which is the tashahuud of the salah. Muhammad (AS) also spoke to Musa (AS) in the process of reduction of the salah to 5 per day. Muhammad spoke to other prophets (AS). Muhammad spoke to Jibril, when they both arrived in Heavens. This was at the station of Sidrat Mutahadah (the station of the farthest Lote tree). When Adam was created as a living human, he was spoken to by Angels, His Lord (SWA). When he and his wife were in jannah the spoke. When they transgressed, Allah spoke to them as they were sent down to earth.

Now in all of these ocassions, tell me what language that was spoken, if not Qur'aanic Arabic? In the introduction to the science of Qur'aan, Allah commanded the Pen to write. And the Mother of the books was written. The mother of the Books was then kept in Lauin Mafuth, in heavens. What language is this book in except in Qur'aanic Arabic? It is in this Book that all "revelations" to the messengers (AS) came from. This include the last of them, the Al Qur'aan.

Since all previous Books, in the hands of the people after the prophets were bastardized, except the Qur'aan which Allah Himself vows to protect, we should therefore reflect about the veracity of "revelatiosn" as a whole. How can humans know which one is authentic and which ones have been played with by man? Allah promised to let us know on the day of judgement, when each will be compared with its portion from the Preserved "Mother of the books". Finally, since the Qur'aan is the final revelation, it has to be Universal, so that no group of people can say that they are not covered under it. This is different from the tribal or limited group revelations of the previous books; Suhuf of Ibrahim, etc, the Torah of Moses, the Sabur of Daud and the Injil of Isa bin Mariam. Have you heard saving the best for last? This is the case, here.

I don't know how similarities in speech inflection of your mama and you explains diversity of language. From what I can intepret on that statement is that inflections are hereditay, language is not. If your mum has a lisp it is concievable that you can inherit that trait, however we do not inherit language that way.

If your proof of stories of ascentions and communing with dead people and angels is evidence that Fusat was the first spoken language. Thats not concrete enough. I can conject a similar story.

You say the revelations were bastardized after the prophets got them insinuating they were all in Arabic, Thats strange, no copies of these manuscripts ever found anywhere.

I guess that;s why they had to be rewritten in the Quran. Quite convinient. wouldn't you say?

auwal87:
Even the Sudanese President is not white, he is black, but if you call him white then you will also call Mr. Obama white

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9d/OmarHassanBashir_03nov06_210.jpg

He is a confused Pseudo- Arabized wanna be who claims Arab blood much like yourself and the supporter of APC.


Free your minds and know the truth about your heritage.

Kobojunkie:
Yet again, that word “HISTORY” shows up but why? What has history to do with level of infrastructural development attainable in this day and age?

You mean Nations in the west, central and East could not have gotten the same natives from the same sources South Africa got it’s from?

These are nothing but excuses; excuses that do not seem to bear any meaning in the reality that I live in. I am sorry; I have no excuse to offer for why west, central and east African countries can not be measured by the same yardstick. Just last year, Kenya got connected to the global network grid. If and when the country moves light speed ahead of Countries in the western part of the same continent, are you going to come back to offer yet another twist on history to support your twist for why we ought not to compare the nations in the east to those in the west?

Whether you choose to acknowledge historical factors or not has no bearing on the reality that they determine outcomes and have done so in this case.

The idea that interjecting relevant historical events to such discussions is somehow a determinant that our brains lack the ability to comprehend complex modern day issues and are somehow "Stuck on past issues" is a farce.

The Subject reads' "Which are the 5 most developed countries on the Continent" and the following countries where mentioned  Egypt, Mauritus, South Africa,  etc


My problem is with using membership of these specific countries mentioned above as a comparison point to other significantly different countries such as Ghana, Nigeria, Togo, Tanzania, Rwanda or the Congo when is it obvious their "historical backgrounds" in terms of developmental timelines are different.

A good comparison would be Equatoral guinea to Nigeira, Congo to Angola or Tanzania to Zambia.

You might as well start comparing Kenya to the  USA or Russia to find out which is the most developed country in the world if we are going to think like that.

Kobojunkie:
Not exactly sure what you mean @Morpheus. @Mpele, and @Nando ( have no clue who those are) may think shopping malls are all that but that does not take away from the fact that infrastructure-wise, South Africa remains the most developed nation in Africa. I have been there myself and can attest to the fact that the country is not about beautiful homes. We are talking of good roads, water supply, electricity, good schools and services available to the people of that country, both the rich and the poor. Even people who live in shacks have access to clean water.

Don't worry about Mpele, its an ongoing thing btw us. I agree that in terms of infrastructure, SA remains the most developed nation in Africa, however I have concerns about comparisons between SA/Botswana with other sub-saharan African nations in terms of Historical, cultural and colonial interjection.

Historical differencies between SA and Most Sub-saharan countries is a contributing factor that accounts for development in that nation.

The presence of first world natives(i.e technology, Management skills) contributed to the culture of progression and therefore contributed to the development of SA in terms of management of resources and maintenance of infrastructure.

Mind you, these are not excuses for the in-ability of any other subsaharan nations to prosper however are clear observations as to the factors that have contributed to the Development of SA in general if comparing timelines.

Therefore to compare SA to most West, Central and East African countries is an error in my opinion. It can be used as a bench mark but never as a comparison.

[quote author=wirinet link=topic=227392.msg3420296#msg3420296 date=1233670909

Further more i do not consider countires that have huge oil reserve and low population as Libya as developed. I think countries with any iota of development should include South Africa, Namimbia, Botswana and probaly Ghana {they are developming slowly}
[quote][/quote]all the above countries save South Africa's "development" are relative to their Homogenity, population size and distribution of resources. Should not be compared to Nigeria.