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there are many reason why a man should give his gf monthly allowance:
- MADNESS
- INSANITY
- DESPERATION
- FOOLISHNESS
- STOOPIDITY
- LOW SELF ESTEEM
- CONFUSION
etc

Kingpinukecy:
count b4 u guess, to avoid wrong answers...

which triangle bro?!

***edited after the OP finally posted a photo*** answer:13

NONSENSE, its a fake photoshop... here is the original:

i dont know about other men, but I (MBJ) want t hear THE TRUTH!

EnlightenedSoul:
See, I'd perhaps agree with you completely, but you make the crucial (yet common) mistake of confusing RESPECT and LOVE.

same thing sista... you cant possibly LOVE someone and not respect them.... IMPOSSIBLE!!!! so, if RESPECT is not present then there is no way that LOVE can remotely be present!

see all the deluded men on this thread!!!! if any of you cheaters "supposedly" love someone then you wouldnt KNOWINGLY hurt that person.
so, as hard as you all may THINK you "love" her, you lot actually have no clue what love is. if you have NO RESPECT for your partner, NO RESPECT for your r/ship and NO RESPECT for yourself, then obviously love is not present in your life.

now, there are men who love their women dearly, and due to one issue or the other they happen to cheat (lets call it temporary weakness ). if these men are remorseful and never hope to do it again, then thats understandable (nobody is perfect), but if these men gladly seek for it every weekend, with no remorse whatsoever then these men dont REMOTELY know the meaning of love!

iamrealdeji:
a cantilever is involved. My question now is when is he going to leave that place for people not to know his secret? Is it after everybody have gone to sleep?

here enlighten yourself:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwvYkRzpq4g


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gVw79AEVhE

Hadone:
^^ Agree with you. And if he still insist he is a magician, the only way his magic can catch my glimpse is by staying between the air without any support from his legs or stick

exactly... there is ALWAYS a trick, even if he floats in the air!

this is a very easy trick to do... there is a steel moving piece that is bolted to the floor and under his trouser, where he sits on it (like on the second photo in red)

TIME, TIME and TIME AGAIN!

"remove that cup from the front let everybody see the tittays i will be sucking later... Toto abi kitten dikeh, tonight na me and you!"

when some of them are even doing free shows, here you are looking down on ₦10K, kai.
all of the top artists started at the bottom, and when you are there, ₦10K is a BIG fee, dont get it twisted!

Eaa247:
I have been wondering if marrying a girl without a job really matters.
She is a university graduate, possess potentials u may say but since she does not have a job yet won't that be a big disadvantage.

no, doesnt really matter, although if she had a job, it would be better.

Her height is just 5'3'' dats abt 160cm, petite. Is nt this height anoda disadvantage?

how can the height of someone be a disadvantage in marriage?!

She is gud in character, godly and quite. But these two issues- no job nd her height are giving me concern.
Pls advice me, just honest and. Mature advice.

if these issues are a problem to YOU then why are you asking us?! this certainly shows us all that YOU are not mature/ready to get married, if you cant even solve such petty issues in your life.

MrsChima:
And that supposed to change someone's preference of NOT WANTING to be on the floor?

if their complain for not wanting to be on the floor is that it is a HARD FLOOR?! yes!

lady: i love R Kelly's music
guy: ".....i believe i can fly"

STOOPID STORY FROM A VERY STOOPID GIRL!

MrsChima:
She was complaining about a hard floor. I doubt it is comfortable even for sexually compatible couples.

SOLUTION: put a floor mat/clothe/mattress on the kitchen floor and the issue would be solved instantly!

SAMBARRY:
Racism is Americas only cancer. As corruption =Nigeria and Nigeria has been unable to get rid of it so Is racism and unreasonable violence in America

racism is very real all over the world, included in the US... but yes, 9ja has much more issues.

as per those leasbian couples let's say they are finally compensated what they want shey they won't turn to Oliver twist and want more millions on another allegations

the judge decision will be final unless they appeal... but then they will only get the settlement when they accept and sign for it. after that there is no way going back on what they have signed for!

Mindfulness:
Ok, so let's say, they need some support to learn coping mechanisms and techniques, how much will it cost, 3 millions? I don't think so.

well private therapy for mum will cost anything between $60-250 PER SESSION. so let's assume it costs $150, and that she needs a session per week, for 10yrs, that will equal to $78K

a private psychologist for the child will cost between $50-150 PER SESSION. so let's assume it costs $100, and that she needs a session per week, for 10yrs, that will equal to $52K

now also take into consideration that they will need to GO and RETURN from the sessions, so add transport cost back and forth, and possibly baby sitting cost if nobody can stay with the child while mum goes to therapy. right there we are getting a total of about $200K cost that we will call EXTRA COST A

Good. I also teach my children that mistakes are human and deserve forgiveness.

thats great... we all should teach our children what WE believe is RIGHT.

Ok, agreed but three millions are not necessary to do so.

and again, i ask you: how much do you think is a fair amount to compensate someone that you've just messed up their lives?!

In life you don't always get what you want and their racist environment is not worth 3 millions dollars. They do not deserve a penny for having racist friends and family. If I were the judge, I would rather require the money to be spend on anti-racism campaigns.

again, you too are being a woman and being emotional about this issue, rather than looking at the facts.
having an opinion about who you want to associate with is NOT wrong, same as where you want to live. are you now saying that they SHOULDNT live in a racist environment?! how dare you want to impose YOUR views on others?! they have the right to decide who they desire to associate with OR where they want to live... and if the clinic had not fukced up, these women would be happily living in their community with a WHITE child.

so relocation + getting a new house in a fancy community $500K, starting again to do all these fancy activities in order to make new friends, thats another $50K per year, for 10yrs (its not easy to make new friends) grand total= $1M
so lets call that EXTRA COST B

For now the judge said that they have no case.

are you sure about that?! here:
DuPage County judge Ronald Sutter tossed the lawsuit alleging wrongful birth and breach of warranty on Thursday, the Chicago Tribune reported. But he said Jennifer Cramblett of Uniontown, Ohio, could refile her lawsuit against Midwest Sperm Bank under a negligence claim.
source: http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/sep/05/judge-dismisses-white-woman-lawsuit-black-sperm-donation

so the judge BELIEVE there is a case of negligence

I can impose my views on others out of conviction.

what a pile of HIGH GRADED NONSENSE, of course you CANT!
you have the right to have your own views, and as much as you can share them with who you desire, you have ABSOLUTELY no right to impose them on others! take a clue from ignorant BH fighters who want to impose their own views on us all.

And fortunately the law makers in many European countries share my convictions and make some opinions unacceptable by law. This is why you can report people on grounds of racism and if you have proof, they will have to pay. And yes people should be ashamed of having racist opinions. What is wrong is wrong and there is no need to justify it with the freedom of opinion. This is why you have laws that make some OPINIONS punishable.

now you are simply being stupid (with all due respect) in order to make a point.
in all these so called country with laws against racism:
- can you report someone who does not want to associate with coloured people?!
- can you report someone who believes that white people shouldnt have babies with coloured people?!
- can you report someone who teaches his children to not associate with coloured kids in school?!
- can you report a friend who doesnt want to associate with you because you had a bi-racial kid?!
- can you report a community because your kids is the only coloured kid there and he/she cant fit in?!

what you wrote is only RIGHT if, for example, someone refuses to give you a job, refuse to rent you a home OR refuses to let you in an establishment because of you race/religion etc

Opinions should NEVER be put above the respect for and dignity of a human being. This conviction is part of the constitution of some well-developed nations and therefore the freedom of opinion is limited to some extent.

NONSENSE UPON NONSENSE!!!!! i suggest you check again the definition of DEMOCRACY, to understand how WRONG you obviously are. you MUST respect each and everyone's views, whether you like them or not because everyone has the RIGHT for freedom of speech and opinion!

being a racist isn't illegal, its the action in which your racist beliefs would conflicts with the law that is illegal (aka refuse to give a job to a coloured person etc). there is NO law that says that a person A) cant believe that other races are inferior to their own, B) cant say it publicly and privately, C) cant print material stating such belief, D) cant start an organization whose members share these racist beliefs, and subsequently spread them.
PLS EDUCATE YOURSELF!

This is the very sad reality and shows how mad humans are. This is why, even though I value freedom of opinion, think that not all opinions are acceptable and must be tolerated. No way!

you should accept what is tolerable TO YOU, and let others decide what they want to accept for themselves, whether you like it or not. trying to force people into thinking the way YOU think is not only wrong but also crazy. so long as their views are not against the law, then they have the right to have them?! if we think like you do and ENFORCE people to think one way only, then christians and muslims would never be able to live in harmony in Nigeria!

I very much agree here. You have been very convincing and for the sake of the child, they should be helped. Nevertheless, there is no need to pay them the sum of three million dollars. This is too much. They should be paid the cost for relocation and for psychological support. We don't even need half a million to cover the costs.

ok, we are finally getting somewhere!

I have agreed. On this basis, we can determine a REASONABLE sum.

in my calculation EXTRA COST A + EXTRA COST B = $1.2M
and thats without all the extra hair/skin care etc

Just because a person made a mistake in this clinic, does not mean that the whole clinic is shaddy.
Just because you make a mistake, does not mean that you are bad. Your behavior was bad but not necessarily you as a personality and human.

fair enough

You would have made a good lawyer. I think we have some consent in the meantime.
And I hope that they, the mothers, will also compensate the child for not knowing her biological father, which I am sure will have a greater impact on her psychological well-being than her skin color but that's a different topic.

thats all on the mothers, to know how they will raise their child

Ioannes:
mod. Please do the needful and move this to the joke section abeg. did you say the woman has three kids already? am sure the first born is almost as old as that child soldier and God help them she is a girl too. can somebody see where this is headed?

segend:
I don't know how someone will call this love. The lady is obviously irresponsible. If it was 1st child I could say it was circumstantial.

she has 3 kids but so far as we know, the father of her three kids left her when she was pregnant for the 3rd one. where is the big deal?!

this guy is neither foolish nor wise... he decided to step to the plate and do what is RIGHT by him. who cares what other people think of his actions?!

jephri:
its obviously photoshop, dumbasses .. F#$king fools

bro, women having sex with dogs, donkeys and horses is VERY REAL!

Mindfulness:
You talk like being mixed is a punishment.

no it isnt with parents who knowingly wanted a mixed race child, BUT, it can possibly be a burden/traumatic/stressful to parents living in a racist environment, who were hoping to have a WHITE child.

It is your choice if you want to teach your children that people must PAY for their mistakes. I prefer to teach my children acceptance, surrender and forgiveness.

i teach my children that they must stand and accept the consequences of their actions, regardless of the outcome.

I never said that.
Nobody says that the hospital has the right to enforce anything and the hospital never intended to do so but mistakes happen, they happen ALL THE TIME, even IN HOSPITALS.

so they must pay to compensate these women for their mistake.

They still have the choice where they want to live and who they want associate with. There are plenty of places to go and billions of people to associate with.

they HAD a choice, their choice was to have a white child, and live in their community, keep their friends and have a happy family... and sadly, the clinic messed that up, big time! these women wouldnt have to change ANYTHING in their lives (community/friends etc) if the clinic had done their job RIGHT! so why shouldnt the clinic compensate them handsomely for relocation and starting a new life?!

This child will hopefully teach them to think outside the box. I cannot feel pity for people who will have to leave back a racist community. I think, it's great!

thats your opinion (and you are entitled to it) but these women have the RIGHT to live in the community they desire, have the friends they desire or the kid they desire etc... unless it is against the law now?!

Each case is different and must be discussed separately. This is why we have courts and this is why people study law for years.

and a judge will rightfully settle this mess, created by this negligent clinic.

There should be no racist towns and there would be no racist towns if people refused to accept racism. What does the mother do? She has no shame saying that her family is racist.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
let me enlighten you: i have lived and encountered racism since the day i was born. i have NEVER for once accepted it, nor the people who lived around me, yet racism has always been here. furthermore, who are you to dictate/impose your views on others? let each and everyone decide for themselves what they desire/require in life, and so long as it aint criminal or against the law, so be it! why should someone be ashamed of having an opinion?! so you want to force people into liking a certain race, even if they dont feel like it?! its their lives, their choices.

btw there is racism/racists EVERYWHERE, even in fukcing Africa.... what do you think tribalism is?! why havent tribalism disappeared since it is so easy to eradicate?

I am not sure they know what is the best for their family unless of course you think money is the best for them. Then ok.

the best for the family is to make sure that their children have all the proper tools to grow as level headed young adults. tools that they may NOT have needed if the child was white.

Mindfulness:
What is the best for their child in this situation?

to have the best tools in order for their child to grow up into level headed adults... and if it takes relocation and therapy sessions to achieve that, then so be it.

So now the clinic is shaddy?

giving the sperm of a BLACK donor while they specifically ask for the sperm of a WHITE donor is shaddy to me! what else they have been fukcing up that the genera public and customers dont know?!

How many mistakes do you make at work? Why do you think doctors make fewer mistakes or no mistakes? They are God?
If you ever worked in hospital or had doctors in your family, you would no that mistakes happen there all the time because negligence is HUMAN.
(Most people are negligent 98% of the time.)

we ALL do mistakes and we ALSO must face the consequences of our actions... in some cases, a simple sorry will do, and in others it wont, and compensation for the mistakes is needed/desired. it all depends on A) who you are B) where you live and C) the type of mistake that was made.

Nothing is wrong. A mistake happened, that's all. The result is a healthy baby girl. If all mistakes could turn out to be like that.

let me clarify a few things:
1) a lot is WRONG in this story
2) a BIG mistake happened and that is NOT a small thing
3) the result (aka a healthy child) is irrelevant to the fact that this is NOT what they desired
4) the hospital should compensate them for the mistake and all the possible consequences of their error

Mindfulness:
This is a great example of acceptance and welcoming diversity that the lesbian / gay movement demands of others.

yet they should not be compensated for wanting the best for their child, while instead being wronged by a negligent clinic?!

Mindfulness:
If this mother was concerned with her child's well-being in the first place and if she valued her child's well-being above anyone else's, she would not allow for the story to be all over the media.
The story is a comedy, except for the child, for the baby girl it is a tragedy.
This mother does not deserve this child.

there is nothing wrong with having this story in the media in order to let the world know what they are going through and warn others about these shaddy and negligent clinics.

SAMBARRY:
gbam.exactly my point. The history of the child's conception will be all over the Internet. Them no even care about the psyche and well being of the child. All they are concerned with is money

they are concerned about making something (which is obviously wrong) Right!

SAMBARRY:
America accommodates all categories of people gay straight bisexual etc. That's why they're referred to as the land of the free and brave. Nigeria on the other hand doesn't tolerate let alone accept gay marriages

ahahahahahahha you must be joking right?! the USA is one of the most racist countries on earth, you best believe that .... but if in doubt, check the police killings of innocent coloured people OR BETTER YET, check what Donald Trump (the possible next US president) is saying about the mexicans. land of the free and brave my foot!

Kimoni:
Mrbrownj - lets assume we go with your theory and we pay them the 3 milla. If they come back after 5 years to get more compensation for the emotional stress they endured for the previous 5 years (after they were paid the 3 milla), would you still consider it justified to pay them?

If Yes, can we then assume we would be compensating them for as long as they live or as long as their daughter lives?

If No, on what grounds should we refuse to pay that is not applicable to the current situation?

the court system will decide how much compensation they require and if they agree to take $3M as settlement, and sign for it, then that will be final... furthermore, everyone knows that you cant be sued TWICE for the exact same crime (by the same person).

Mindfulness:
They deserve to be given back the money they invested and nothing else in THIS CASE. This is MY opinion. My reason is that they are sending out the wrong message. They should not make an issue out of the child's skin color FOR THE CHILD'S SAKE in the first place and for reasons of political correctness in the second place.

it is all about doing what you believe is RIGHT. because of negligence, the family is going to suffer and therefore someone must be held responsible. if you believe that these 2 white ladies will suffer equally whether their child is WHITE or MIXED RACE then fair enough, you have the right to your opinion. but IMHO anyone who has been wronged in such manner MUST sue the negligent clinic... and subsequently teach their children to always seek justice.

Of course they can. Anyone can have an identity crisis but more children than not do NOT have any identity crisis if they KNOW both parents and BOTH cultures and grow up in a loving and sane environment. Like I said, mixed children often enjoy advantages because they are considered cute. And because it is en vogue in some countries to be liberal and tolerant nowadays, people will be even nicer to a mixed child than to a white child.
Their kid will have an identity crisis whether it is black, white or purple BECAUSE SHE WILL NEVER KNOW HER FATHER, whether he is black, white or purple. I have read a magazine article about kids whose mothers were fertilized in clinics and who, for this reason, never knew their biological fathers. Most of them suffer for this reason.

saying that all children from single parenting household suffer identity crisis is highly laughable, but this is another debate entirely

Yes but the hospital is not responsible for people being racist. And they can find new friends. They don't need 3 million dollars to do so.

come on sista, now you are being completely off... A) who ever said that the hospital is responsible for racism in the world?! B) everyone has the right to their opinion and the hospital has NO RIGHT to enforce a mixed race child on these women (whose friends happen to be racist) if they did not desire that and C) how much do you think it cost to relocate and have new friends that you can trust etc?!

you are looking at the issue BACKWARDS and saying that it is not the clinic's fault that their friends/town is racist, and that these people should change their entire LIVES... but you forget the MAIN issue here: if the child was white (as planned) then they would be no issue, there would be no need for all these changes in order to be happy after the clinic made an error. anyone has the right to decide what friends they want to associate with and/or which town they want to live in. blaming these women for wanting a white child, that would fit perfectly in their world, is what most caring person should do.

example of the amazing things you are saying here: an Nigerian couple goes to a fertility clinic in Lagos, they desire a black child but instead a mistake was made and they end up with an albino child. so, if we all think like you do, the clinic is not responsible with the discrimination against albinos in Africa, and therefore the parents should instead move out of Africa and find a place where albinos are not discriminated upon?!?!?!?!

They can apply their wisdom to a new situation. Discrimination is discrimination.

there are MANY form of discrimination in this world and HOW each and everyone decides to deal with one may be completely different to how they will deal with the other...

You have good arguments and one can logically take on your position but I consider it wrong for them to complain about the child's skin color and act like the skin color is such a big issue when the biggest issue is that their child will grow up NOT KNOWING HER BIOLOGICAL FATHER.

if someone lives in a society that have a great deal of single parenting household supposedly living happily then this wont be the biggest issue to these people. their biggest issue will be what THEY determine will cause the greatest harm to their family... and having a mixed race child in a racist town may be just that.

If they fear social stigma, they should not have any kids at all.

wanting the best for your family isnt against the law, right?!

Mindfulness:
I respect your views, I just do not share them. 3 million dollars is greedy. You don't have to share my views. In fact, it is good you don't because else we would have nothing to discuss.

may i ask: how much compensation do you think they deserve?

I am quite sure that the child will need a psychologist because she will never get to know her biological father and not because she is mixed.

so you dont believe that mixed race kids can have identity crisis, or difficulties to fit in?

They should pay the bills for having racist friends. No pity here. We choose the friends we have.

stick to the fact at hand... if they would still have these said friends if the child was white, then the hospital is responsible here.

You think there is a town in this world that is racist but tolerant when it comes to gays having kids? I want to see this town.

these women are lesbians and probably "experts" on how to deal with homosexuality issues, while they are not black nor mixed race. so they can probably easily deal with the lesbian issues while cant deal with the mixed race one since they are clueless.

They would have to buy different products for a child anyway. And even if they didn't, they wouldn't need 3 million dollars to cover these costs.

add everything up and it can even be more than 3 milla

SAMBARRY:
you are still saying the same thing. Will the 3 million redo the mistake that has already been made. No matter what 3milla cannot do anything. The truth is that those couples are opportunists

they too want to drive lambogini

whatever the amount they desire, it will be down to a judge to decide how much compensation they should get.

SAMBARRY:
Then they should take them to good schools where their esteem and dignity as human beings will surely be protected.

of course they should....and the hospital compensation will help towards that.

The point is if parents do a good job and the school also tries to protect the children from bullying each other then trust me you have nothing to be bothered about.

bullying in schools all over the word is real, and a problem NOBODY has been able to fix. saying that tit is easy to avoid is another joke of yours.

Instead of having misplaced priorities e.g paying attention to what is not important as in trying to sue the hospital why don't the couple channel that energy on having another white kid that will match up to their taste and standard in another hospital then focus on how they will bring the siblings up together and learn how to love each other

will that fix the trauma/burden/stress related to having a mixed race kid?! NOPE!

they are even lucky they're not in Nigeria. Haven't you heard of cases where they mistakenly diagnosed someone for hiv meanwhile he never had hiv or prescribing wrong drugs for wrong ailments and after the damage is done the only thing they can get is sorry. No refunds even ministry of health go dey sidon look. They won't do anything other than sorry

just because Nigeria is failing in that department, does NOT mean we all must accept poor standards and negligent clinics.

SAMBARRY:
Can you imagine Mr Brown jay a whooping 3million dollars loun loun like kilode
longer throat dey worry them o.ahann

how much is the hospital making annually for them to gather 3million dollars.


oya let me bring out my calculator. Here is it.ahen good

Be looking o.

170 naira x30,000,000=

sista Sambarry, you are not serious, lol.
how much the hospital makes a year is irrelevant to the important point here: they made a mistake and need to compensate their victims. let a judge decide how much the clinic should pay, and if they havent got the money they can get a loan, sell the hospital etc

SAMBARRY:
Mister brown that is not professional negligence it is called HUMAN ERROR which anybody is prone to once in a while.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH you had me there!
it is the hospital duty to have qualified and competent doctors to deliver a PERFECT service. yes there could be human error anywhere but then THEY (the person and employer) must take FULL responsibility for it, and compensate the people affected by that error.

If the parents build up their children's self esteem and make them realise that they are beautiful intelligent and great nobody can make them feel inadequate because of their race. It has happened it has happened naniyen.if the parents do a good job in raising the kid trust me he or she will be able to face the world without having a feeling of inferiority complex because of his race.

you are looking at the world with wishful thinking, while i am giving you the raw undiluted version. kids get bullied when different, discriminated upon because of their race/religion/tribe/sex/sexual orientation etc etc etc... also are you trying to say that children with low self esteem (or identity crisis) automatically means the parents didnt do a good job raising them!?!?!?!?!? if you think that you can build ALL kids self esteem as easy as you are making breakfast, then you have a lot to learn.

Meanwhile no amount of compensation can change his mixed blood to white. Ok let's assume they win the case and maybe the government seizes the licence of the hospital to operate will it change the havoc that has already been committed?

again, the compensation is not there to CHANGE in any way the race of the kid nor hurt knowingly the clinic... it is to provide necessary funds for the possible emotional/psychological and financial burden that this family will go through, due to the mixed race of the child (burden that they would probably not have gotten if the kid was white)

Look at the future stop dwelling on the present. Let by gone be by gone. I don't know why a lion will be sleeping peacefully and yoy will go and pull the tail of a lion . when the thing attacks you una go dey cry foul.
Let sleeping dogs lie.nawa o

- not focussing on the present is mistake #1 because we all live in the present, and therefre shouldnt bury our heads in the sand pretending that something is NOT there, when it is right in front of your face.
- thinking that the issue is resolved simply because the hospital paid them back, and/or thinking that these women are "sleeping peacefully" is your mistake #2

Mindfulness:
Nobody said they have no right to sue or no right to demand anything. What we are discussing here is whether it is unreasonable and greedy. We are not the judge but we were asked to share our opinions.

as i said from my 1st post, it is NOT unreasonable nor greedy to demand compensation... you ladies are the one coming with flimsy excuses as to why they are unreasonable/greedy and i gave my views as to why these ladies deserve any penny they can get from this negligent clinic

Sue them for what she will have to go through, the societal stigma and the fact that she will never know her biological father. It is a choice she has never made.

if their child decides to sue then that will be HER decision... but you certainly cant sit here and expect these women NOT to do what THEY believe is right, simply because some kids down the line may not have the same view. we parents must sometimes take decisions that may not be what others will view as righteous but nevertheless thats what is best for the family that counts. these women are doing what they believe is RIGHT by having fertility treatment/insemination, and therefore let them live with the consequences of their act.

They will suffer financially for having a mixed kid?
I don't know what it is like to be of mixed race in the USA, but where I am located children do not suffer because they are of mixed race. In fact, they often have an advantage but that's a different topic.

- who will settle the psychologist bills when that child is possibly coming home crying because he/she cant fit in?!
- who will settle the therapy sessions when mama has possibly lost all her friend due to having a mixed race child?
- who will pay for relocation because the town they live in possibly look down on coloured/mixed people?!
- who will foot the bill when having to buy items specifically for mixed race hair/skin care?! (a white child could have used his/her mother's comb etc)

SAMBARRY:


Mister brown Mister brown
you're too funny

the only thing that you have been emphasizing on is emotional and psychological stress in raising the child and the way their counterparts will be looking at them
it is very obvious you don't like half caste bet that one is a story for another day now to the matter #clears throat#

are you now insinuating that i dont like my kids simply because i understand why/how 2 white parents may have difficulties raising a mixed race child in today's society (difficulties that they may not have if that child was white)?!
remember, i have 3 mixed race children

They already have the child. The issue now should be HOW ARE WE GOING TO RAISE THIS CHILD instead of crying over spilled milk.

and thats exactly what they are doing.... demanding compensation for the emotional/psychological/financial stress that they may encounter while raising that mixed race child (stress that they would NOT have encounter if the clinic had done their job properly). if you call that "crying over spilled milk" then fair enough, thats your opinion.

Fine the hospital has made a mistake and they've owned up to their mistake.

YES they have made a mistake, NO they havent solved the issue of "who is going to compensate them for all the emotional/psychological/financial stress that they may endure in the future, thanks to the negligence of this clinic... stress that would be absent if the child was white, as planned."

The point is that they should start learning how they will cope with aggressive eyes lurking around then when next they want to have another child they should go to another hospital.

they will indeed but that doesnt rectify the negligent act by that clinic. if you think that the only duty from a negligent clinic is to pay back the money, and all is clear, then you have a lot to learn. why should these women suffer? why should they have sleepless night? why should they have to pay for psychologists and more, if the error was not theirs?

By the way shebi Michael Jackson is a black man (forget the bleaching, nose and hair. No amount of bleaching can change your dna to oyinbo If you are black you are black) and his wife is oyinbo. How come people are not looking at the children some how.

A) MJ's kids are white (dont get it twisted) B) if his kids were mixed race then this would have been a CONSCIOUS decision taken by both parents to have a mixed race kid in this world, and therefore they would have only themselves to blame as this would be the consequences of their actions, and C) if one of the parent is black then they have the proper background to instill the needed cultural/ethnical values that any afro mixed kids needs.

This world is simple. It's we human beings that make it complicated. They should learn how they will love and accept the child. Look beyond his mixed race or whatever.

yes the mothers might be able to do that but are you sure that the whole world will follow suit?! these kids will have to face the world someday and sadly, only the strongest make it.

Tomorrow now if the child is successful they will say that's my son.

i doubt these ladies EVER for once second said that the kid was NOT theirs, they just said that as 2 white women raising a mixed race child, it may be harder (and that extra hardship, that they would not have had if the child was white, is the direct consequence of the negligence)

Oya tell me who remembers obamas skin colour

Obama was raised by a single mother who KNOWINGLY decided to have a mixed race child, completely different from a woman who wants a white child and end up with a mixed race one because of a negligent clinic. stop being emotional and stick to the issue at hand sista.

every body from Kenya dey claim he's my brother he's from my town we went to the same secondary school we did this together we did that together

they are proud of his Kenyan heritage, nothing wrong with that.

Mindfulness:
MRBrownJ,
there are still plenty of people in the Western world who have a problem with homos.exuals having kids and even a bigger one if the child does not know one of her biological parents. How comes they have no problem with societal disapproval of gays having kids but have a problem when it comes to racism.

again, it is all down to the choices EACH AND EVERYONE takes in life, knowing fully well the consequences of their actions. so if a lesbian couple decides to have a child together, knowing fully well that society may look down on such, then thats their issues and they have ALL THE RIGHTS TO DO THAT, because A) they are lesbians therefore UNDERSTAND FIRST HAND the issue/disapproval of society when it comes to homosexuality and B) it was NEVER forced upon them.
now compare that with having a mixed race child while 1) none of them is black, 2) they have no idea what type of racism blacks/mixed children may go through in their lives, but MOST IMPORTANTLY 3) they never took the decision to have a mixed race child, it was forced upon them thanks to the negligence of the clinic.

To mention societal (dis-)approval in this context, as a problem requiring 3 million dollars compensation, is ironic.

anyone has the right to demand whatever they desire, it will be down to the judge to decide HOW MUCH exactly they should get in compensation.

If we go by this logic, the girl child should sue her parents in 20 years for 30 billion dollars.

sue them for what exactly?!

By the way, mixed kids also have advantages. Some people will be extra nice to them in order to show that they are not racist or because they consider them so cute.

although you are right about that it doesnt change the fact that due to the negligence of the clinic, the mothers may STILL suffer emotionally/psychologically and financially.

SAMBARRY:
with your way of thinking it means that you are racist. You are part of the people encouraging racism stylishly. Is half caste not a human being. Many of them are always beautiful till old age and have dual race so what's the problem about that

you must stop being a "woman" for a minute (aka stop being too emotional) about this case, and instead focus on the facts at hand.
so, regardless of whether YOU believe that mixed race people are beautiful or not (which is not the case here), instead understand that it would be emotionally/psychologically and financially "easier" for two white women to raise a white child than it would be to raise a mixed race child.

every human being is a human being created by God whether black White or mixed.stop looking at the race, look at the being. .

you are not focussing on what is IMPORTANT here:
if we lived in a world free of racism, where everyone was equal, then i would have agreed with you but sadly it aint so... and therefore it may be emotionally/psychologically harder for these 2 women to raise a mixed race child than it would if that child was white.
btw out of my 6 kids, 3 are mixed race, and i fully understand the struggle for mixed race children to fit in or identify, in a particular society. i am not even gonna dwell on that same said society that has the definition of beauty being white with blonde hair and blue eyes.

If two white people have a mixed race child it is still their child and whatever their society thinks about their mixed race child is not their business

true... but you dont focus on the main issue here:
- does society look down on white women having a mixed race child? YES, some people in society do!
- is it harder for a mixed race child to fit in with a particular race in that same society?! YES, sometimes it is!
therefore emotionally/psychologically, it may be MORE difficult for these women to raise a mixed race child than it would have been if it was a white child.

the world is already inhumane and complicated enough we human beings should not make it worse. It's very unfair to marginalise half caste saying they're neither black or white

as you have written it, the world we live in is neither fair for all nor easy, so it may be easier for 2 women to raise a white child than it would be for them to raise a mixed race child, just like it may be emotionally easier for 2 black women to raise a black child than it would be for them to raise a mixed race child ... i am not being a racist, i am being REAL about life.

So after 2years it just dawned on them that they are negligent abi?

they may have foolishly believe that raising a mixed race child was the same as raising a white child... and only realise now after 2 yrs that it aint so.

Mr man they don't have any case. It's as if they want to waste their money and time. Like someone said it's like one hungry lawyer is somewhere deceiving them. He knows they can't win but he wants to take advantage of their situation to make money

if you agree that the clinic was negligent then AGAIN, stop focussing on the small picture, and instead focus on the emotional/psychological and possibly financial stress that having a mixed race child may bring to these women's live (stress that would have been absent if the child was white)

if the hospital didn't refund their money and or apologise then they have all the right but for crying out loud they've done what every reasonable and professional hospital ought to do

here is what these women may endure with a mixed race child that they would NOT if the child was white (which the refunded money does NOT cover):
[b]- having to deal emotionally/psychologically with the stare of people, the possible loss of friends, the possible verbal/emotional/physical abuse due to the mixed race of the child
- having to deal emotionally/psychologically with a child not being able to fit with a particular race in due to their mixed race status
- having to deal emotionally/psychologically with explaining their mixed race status to that child OR their origin
- emotionally/psychologically having to explain the verbal/physical/emotional discrimination that this child may face
- having to deal emotionally/psychologically with the fact that they have no afro origin/background in order to instill in that child the proper tool for him/her to be prepared for the society we live in
- having to deal emotionally/psychologically with the fact that they have no afro origin/background in order to instill in that child the proper identity/culture/ethnic background for that child to have sound sense of self (and strong foundations)
- having to deal physically AND financially with nappy hair and skin care issues (they certainly wont use the same comb/shampoo/cream etc that they are using) while being clueless about it all
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meanwhile I'm sure those couples have spent the money that was refunded to them.

all what i have mentioned above are things that would NOT have been an issue if the child was white... so, REFUNDING THE MONEY THEY'VE PAID WILL NOT COVER THE ABOVE, THEREFORE SUING FOR COMPENSATION IS UNDERSTANDABLE

from the look of things they're not likely to win but let's assume they win, will they return the child to the hospital or what?

the compensation will help the mother deal adequately with the possible added emotional/psychological/physical stress... stress that would have been inexistent if the clinic had done their job PROPERLY!