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HacheNoire:
I get the point you raising. But when you practically see into this two life’s, you will get to realize they almost similar and far different from a single family home.
Men just use it to console themselves that got baby mamas and have a wife, while they facing almost same thing a polygamist is facing.

as much as you are somehow right about the above, i cant help but think about the advanages that polygamy have against single family or babymama. it all comes down to what each and everyone desire for their lives. many women gladly embrace polygamy because they cant take being pounded sexually each and every night by their husbands, thus co-spouse can take over the pounding and give other co-wives some sexual rest. same with house chores etc. imagine living in a home where you have plenty of children, at least you dont need a babysitter/child carer etc

says a lot about what he thinks of her.... no wonder he separated from her.

xammax:
Found out he was a fraud

you dodged a bullet there.... its always good to ask tenants about everything, not just who the owner is but also how the owner is? is it a great friendly compound etc!

adeniyi65:
Pls I need your advice.

get a gf, mount her well well every chance you get.... get your konji in control!

HacheNoire:
Use Tuface and Davido has a case study, you will see everything there.
When Davido goes see his kid in Atlanta, Chioma will become jealous
When Tuface spends so much time with his kids on phone, Annie will be jealous
And the financial demand is same. You still laying upkeep for all those children.
Do you even trust your gender? The next thing you see is baby no 2.
I will repeat, it’s just modified polygamy. Even in death, all those kids and women will be present at a man’s grave side

- you certainly dont need to have babymamas or even a wife for women to be jealous of others. this is the nature of women. you could be friendly to a POS attendant and your woman will be jealous of her...same if you are nice and smile to a supermarket cashier. women's JEALOUSY is embedded into their dna. women and jealousy is like (insert zuma pic here)
- a responsible man would always be responsible for his children, but the difference would be the INTERACTIONS he has with the child's mother. on one hand he doesnt give a damn about the baby's mother, on the other hand he is MARRIED to baby's mother and care a great deal about her.
- as much as there are many similarities, there are also many big important differences in babymama vs polygamy

another DEVIL IN ROBE bites the dust!

HacheNoire:
You pay close to same allowance
You will still be a remote dad
Their will still be jealousy, among those ladies, except you want to ignore your responsibility as a father.
You will sit with all of them on the children’s birthday, wedding, graduation e.t.c
You see, one their is a product in a relationship, you can hate each other forever, but you still play that role as parents together.
Baby mama is just refined polygamy

A) a responsible man would take care of his children regardless whether with a babymama or polygamy
B) a polygamous man going home every night to interact with his multiple children wont be a remote dad, same with the responsible father who co-parent his children with babymama.
C) the minute you are not willing to marry a babymama, technically she has the right to live her life the way she sees fit (since you guys are not together any longer), only a very foolish immature deluded man would be jealous of babymama (who he rejected) when she now has a new life.
D) the responsibility of any father has absolutely nothing to do with being jealous of his child's mother,, his sole duty is to provide care/love/Affection etc to her and her children, and certainly not to envy her.
E) a babymama is a SINGLE mother who can do what she pleases with her romantic/sexual life, thus cannot be compared to the multiple WIVES that a polygamous men is MARRIED to. these are two different worlds (unless you beieve that a single woman is the same as a married one?).

HacheNoire:
It’s almost same. Polygamy and baby mama come with close to same finance, responsibility and problems

not really...a BABYMAMA dont live with you; dont have to be nice to other "co spouse"; are not in a r/ship with you any longer; and is probably bitter at every new woman you got in your life AND probably dont have any respect for you any longer.... compare that with POLYGAMY where all these women are still in r/ship with you thus they have to cohabit in a friendly respectable manner, and since they are still a very big part of your life, they have to RESPECT you.

HUGE DIFFERENCE HERE.

HacheNoire:
We are tired of all this polygamous family matters!
Even Ned Nwoko’s wives are far more United!
Haba!

lets not confuse BABYMAMAS with POLYGAMY...thats 2 different ball game.

OChimex:
Okay. Check my photo that’s what I do for job here, dude.
Mind you, I make over $190k yearly as a 💯 percent fully commissioned tech. I am not on hourly job dude

Yeah. 40 million homeless drug addicts and illegal immigrants living in the States

bro, what you do exactly in the US is irrelevant to the subject at hand... but its obvious that you just landed as any person who've lived long enough in the US would know that poverty anywhere in the west is not based on having running water and 24hs electricity. its only "fresh off the boat immigrant" who still believe they are back in Africa, who think like that.

anyway, its pointless trying to educate you on the subject, as it is obvious you need to make your newlyfound country look/sound like paradise on earth, while we all know that many gainfully employed people in America would tell you otherwise.

have a fantastic day, and dont let me rain on your parade!

skj1377:
Your work place is not world-class . Few weeks ago my female colleague bought me expensive food! So no big deal.

paying for food is a friendly gesture.... getting romantically involve with a colleague is a different ball game... thus my above quote

remember the golden rule:" THOU SHALL NOT SHIIT WHERE YOU EAT!

i wouldnt expect any less from a babe you met on the street today and a few hrs later, she is ready to fukc you.

IbeOkehie:
Sir you need to standardize your definition of poverty. The most contemporary measures of poverty include access to amenities such as clean water and stable energy supplies. The vast majority of poor people in the USA have access to such basic amenities of modern life. You have to incorporate some HDI standards.

What the people and government of the USA regard as "poverty" is a life of lower middle class comfort in Nigeria. The only people who are *un*avoidably poor in the USA are the physically or mentally ill. Do your research.

Cheers.

i fully disagree, there are plenty of people in America who cant make ends meet at the end of the month, while working sometimes 3 jobs, yet they aint remotely physically/mentally ill. comparing poverty in America with Africa is a baseless opinion as nobody cares what the poverty in Nigeria is (when talking about poverty in America). just because someone lives in a rented mansion, if they cant pay for their food, for the house bills and/or for their healthcare, then they are POOR, regardless of their shiny mansion.

again, people living in their cars because they cant afford a decent home are not mentally/physically ill, they are just TOO BROKE TO AFFORD BASIC NECESSITIES OF LIFE. these are poor people, regardless of whether they have a salary that is millionaire status in Africa and/or that they sleep in cars that Africans dream about. poverty in Africa is different than poverty in America, but nevertheless POVERTY!

OChimex:
Basing my experience and facts on this as regards to poverty like in Africa and Asia, nobody is living is this kind of poverty in America and Europe.
No more argument from you abeg.
I no know whether you dey this kind USA(United State of Adamawa)

again, who cares what YOU think is poverty in America?! again, why do you think that poverty in america should look like poverty in Africa?! stop comparing the west with Africa. stop using your "fresh off the boat" mind to judge something that you are clearly clueless about. there are 40m poor people in America who cannot get basic life necessities for themselves... and whether you like it or not, THIS IS A FACT!!!!

now, just because you can get 10 low paying dishwasher jobs tomorrow does not make any difference to the above issue....

OChimex:
The WHO definition of poverty is - someone living below $2 a day. Nobody lives below $2 a day in the US. Everybody must not have nice house or nice cars, but nobody will go hungry and without light and water and clothes in the US. Even shelter.
I eat at Qdoba, Chipotle, and many restaurants, whenever you want to pay, there is a tip attached to pay pad, which you can ignore. Any job that fast food job or restaurant that doesn’t attach tip, pays so well.
Nobody is hungry in America,
Besides, nobody pays 10 -12 dollars in a full time job in America, unless there is huge tips. Or the job is like do nothing almost.
I repeat agin, nobody lives below WHO definition of poverty which is living below $2 a day.
And no hard working person lacks basics necessities in America

OChimex:
Go read WHO definition of poverty. You will understand that nobody is poor in America.
You mistake poverty by comparison.
Mind you, if you think poverty is, when one drives a GMC truck and the other drives a 1995 Toyota. No it’s not.
Poverty is lacking the basic necessities of life like, food, clothing, shelter, good water and electricity.
Nobody lacks these in America.

the UNITED STATE CENSUS BUREAU says that there is 40m people living in POVERTY in the US, but i guess you are a better expert on the subject than them and therefore know something they dont.... abi?!?!

here enjoy:
https://www.census.gov/newsroom/stories/poverty-awareness-month.html#:~:text=Official%20Poverty%20Measure,37.9%20million%20people%20in%20poverty.

... but i understand your way of thinking. you just got to the US, see someone earning minimum 2K monthly, convert that in Naira in your head (aka 1.4M Nairas monthly), and thereafter mistakenly believe that everyone in the US is living comfortable lives.

OChimex:
See dude, in the US, we understand. Some super rich than others, but nobody is below poverty line here. No place in the US you will go that you won’t see electricity, good drinking water and all amenities, unlike Nigeria. No hard working man in America is poor. Unless you are into drugs or illegal.
And I say it again, poverty is a choice in US and Europe, unlike Nigeria where people are willing to work but no job. There is nothing like no job in America

so because there is 24hs electricity and good drinking water in the US, people cant be poor?!?!?!? you think these poor people kiving from paycheck to paycheck aint hardworking?!?!?! what are you talking about?!

OChimex:
Dude. You are just a village man who mistakenly sees internet and start pulling shits from internet to prove your point. You have never left the shores of Nigeria. That’s why you come here and start calling people names and shaming them without even knowing them.
Mind you, I am an HVAC tech and I make way above $120k yearly.
People who work in restaurant or fast food earns way more than $20 an hour, because they get lots of tips.
Every single individual who is an adult and have no job files for unemployment and govt pays them enough to sustain them.
Big cities pay way higher above $17 most times.
Don’t worry, one day you will leave village Nigeria and come to US or Europe you will understand.
I won’t disturb my peace again trying to educate you. If you doubt, download indeed App and see for yourself plenty jobs wey go dey beg you to come work.
Anybody unemployed is not because there is no job, it’s because they are picky.
People working and living in their cars doesn’t mean they can’t afford a house. They just don’t want to pay such high rent.
I will tell you again and again, Poverty is a choice in America and Europe.
Whatever shanties and homeless people you see are their choice. They either chose to do drugs or migrate illegally.
No hard working person is poor in US and EU

A) fast food employees (like Mc Ds, starbucks etc) barely get any tips. if you knew anything about the US , you would know that fast food workers DONT GET TIPPED IN THE US. stop confusing restaurant waiters who are sometimes earning 3-4 times the minimum salary JUST ON TIPS and fast food workers who earn just their minimum salary. GET REAL!!!
B) you sir dont know what you are talking about....if you've never had a job in the US, you CANNOT receive unemployment benefit. same as if you get fired or quit your job (in some states)... GET REAL!!!
C) advertising for Jobs is one thing, but as there are hundreds of unemployed people who apply for that one job, saying that there is no poverty in the US is the LIE FROM THE PIT OF HELL! go to any job site in Nigeria and there will also be hundreds of jobs advertised...GET REAL!!!
D) this is not a dikc waving contest as anyone can claim whatever life they desire on faceless forum so lets stick to the issue at hand. but claiming that there is no poverty in US/EUrope is false and any person who has ever lived around the world can attest to that. again, THERE IS NO COUNTRY ON EARTH THAT HAS NO POVERTY...let alone a place like US/EUROPE. GET REAL!!!
E) you think its everyone that can get housing off some low paying job with yeye part time contract abi? you think its easy to save thousands of dollars for aplication fee, deposit fee on a low paying jobs abi? you think its anybody that can pass the CREDIT/BACKGROUND check before you can get housing, abi?!? you think its anybody who can get the proper references to rent an apt on a low paying job, abi?! you think its everybody that can earn the minimum "3x the rent" salary before you can rent a place, abi? you sir dont know what you are talking about... some of these people have 3 jobs and STILL cant get decent housing...GET REAL!!!
F) a great deal of the country is crawling in DEBTS, living the type of lives they cannot afford, using credit cards and financing to make ends meet and have a semblant of a life. GET REAL!!!
G) you truly sound like someone who just landed in the US... you are clueless about the country and need to get to know the country a lil bit more, travel around (if you can afford it) and discover a bit more. by the time you see enough trailer parks and ghettos, na that time you will remember what i have been telling you.

OChimex:
This guy, you are deluded. Very deluded. Poverty in America is a choice.
Lazy, drug addicts. Who don’t wanna work.
There is jobs everywhere that can pay your bills.
Again, poverty is not being able to afford basic necessities.
Poverty in America is self made.
You are so delusional.
No legal migrant in America is in poverty.
He talks about lazy people who doesn’t want to work and want to waste their life.

Oga, anybody who wants to work and make money can find job and work.

Joke. You just dey google things they put here they shout.

you talk like a proper African immigrant who just got off the boat... i guess in your world, because you landed in a big city and got a low paying job where you can wash dishes, flip burgers or clean floors for 10$ an hr, it means anywhere/everywhere in America there is abundance of work, lol! i guess the 40m Americans who are unemployed today and/or who can barely survive on their yeye low paying jobs, are lazy abi? the millions of GAINFULLY EMPLOYED PEOPLE who live in their car because they cant afford an apt/deposit etc are lazy abi? there is many people in the US who have a job yet live in their car, KAI!!!!

but hey, lets do the math: family of 4, you make $10+12/hr working 40hs per week in your low paying jobs, so thats roughly $2k monthly after taxes (and i am generous) $24k per yr income in the US...AND YOU WOULD BE CONSIDERED BOTTOM OF SOCIETY aka POOR, especially in expensive cities like NY, LA, San Fran, Boston etc....same in Europe like Paris or London!

...and just because some families can survive on such low income by renting apt/house 2hs away from your job, living in accomodation that looks like dog house while eating mac & cheese day and night, does NOT mean that you aint poor. same with yeye people who are taking loans to get a fancy house in a fancy neighborhood while driving a fancy car to pretend they aint poor,while living in bondage to these financial institutions (AKA REMAINING POOR FOREVER).

the below is rampant in the US....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59Fdrj3U6Mc

bring the LAW into this matter and get uncle evicted.... as the house rightfully belongs to you.

Blaze14k:
So you are trying to tell me in a whole family only one person is wotking abi others are handicap. Besides you have two different jobs. Most ppl who leave in uk have no reason to complain unless u chose to fo nothing

again, many aint complaining but that doesnt mean they aint poor... the credit system is there to make poor people feel comfortable in their poverty, WHILE ENRICHING THEMSELVES AND KEEPING YOU POOR. there are many people in the UK who were BORN IN POVERTY and who are COMFORTBALE IN POVERTY. some people out in the UK have been living for decades on the dole (aka bare minimum), and dont need more. some people in the UK are poor/broke yet live in fancy houses and drive nice cars, while living in debts! people taking credit to live a seemingly comfortable life, aint rich...they are just poor people pretending to be comfortable (while in reality they cant afford such lifestyle....aka they are POOR).

some people are not educated and can only manage these low paying jobs, and dont complain BUT, just because these low paying salaries are the equivalent of a fortune in Nigeria, doesnt make these people suddenly rich.

1nice:
Gays and Lesbians in Nigeria can never escape arrest: whether they are celebrities or not, the Nigeria law will surely punish all gays and lesbians for breaking the Nigeria law; when concerns Nigerians have finished gathering evidences, then those foolish gays and lesbians can not denied when confronted.

yet the above yeye people i mentionned earlier are all over TV/social media flaunting their yeye lifestyle... dey there!

Blaze14k:
Mind you this is the least of jobs that can pay such amount. Ok lets do the math lets say you get paid 8p/hr and you work 7hrs daily. 8×7 =56pound a day. Multiply 56 by 1week, 56×7 = 392pound. After working for a month 392×4 = 1568pounds. Wait you call this peanut. 1568 by 750 in todays black market is 1.1million? This is one of the lowest you can earn like why do you think some nigerians take two jobs overseas? Do you know how much they are making? Talk more more of office jobs you can get higher pay

VTJN:
A poor man in US is automatically a rich or average man in Nigeria or any other Africa country. They're incomparable

you guys are talking like proper immigrants (comparing 1500 in the UK with the equivalent of that in Nigeria)...
A) who in their right minds (apart from desperate illegal immigrants) works 7 days a week for the rest of their lives?
B) better yet, how can a family of 4 survive on £1500 monthly (£18K per year) in a place like London (for example)? if you have a family of 4 and earn £1500 monthly (£18K per yr) in London, you are POOR!
C) comparing wages in the UK with its equivalent in Naira, is one of the reason why you will always fail in this issue. LONDON IS NOT LAGOS...dont get it twisted. in London with £18K per yr, by the time you finish paying rent/housing/food/transport, you will barely have money to pay for clothing/schooling/healthcare. just your monthly travel card will take no less than10-30% of your monthly salary (depending on how far away your work is).

for your information, travel card zone 1-2 cost £150, zone 1-9 cost £400 ...if you live/work in zone 1-2 then you pay cheapER travel card (10% of salary) but your rent price will kill you..if you live far away from city center and work in the city then your rent will be cheaper but the travelcard will cost between 20-30% of monthly salary!!!!

OChimex:
First, where are you based?
Have you lived in Europe or US, like lived their for years?
What you just said, is it from Google you browse am give me?
Again, did you read where I mentioned poverty is a choice, either by one overdosing on drugs and can’t live a normal life of working and paying bills or by being illegal immigrant?
Pay check to pay check doesn’t mean they are lacking.
Poverty is when one lacks the basic things of life. Pay check to paycheck means you work, paid your bills and have no savings.
Mind you, once’s you are working, you can get a car financing and pay as low as 100$ a month to own a car.
Mr man. I tell you again,
Poverty is by choice in Europe and US. Unless you are doing drugs and or illegal and can’t find a decent work because you don’t have a record.
Stop making a fool of yourself by pulling photos off the internet of homeless people who destroyed their lives with drugs and illegal immigrants who that live in shanties.
Poverty is by choice in US and Europe.
When I first moved to the US, I was changing jobs every month and was so picky that most people offered me jobs but I refused. 😂

A) i have never lived in Nigeria (unless long holidays)
B) i am just giving you PROPER STATISTICS and certainly not "he say she say" personal opinion
C) again, many people in the US aint addicts nor illegal immigrants and still barely living paycheck to paycheck, and cant afford basic necessities of life. its even WORSE in the US than Europe, because at least some countries in Europe have a very strong social service system (compared to the US). a jobless 18yr old French citizen will receive money from the gov to survive (even if he hasnt paid a kobo in taxes), a US jobless 18yr wouldnt receive a kobo.
D) many people cant get a decent job because of the amount of legal/illegal immigrant taking up these low pay jobs.
E) many people in the US are broke because of the exacts same low financing car/house/Iphones etc notes you are talking about (That they cant afford)
F) addiction is NOT part of the poverty i am talking about, nor the CNBC video i just posted, if you had watched t, you would have understood that the poverty in the US that everyone is talking about must be from a different country than the US you are on about.
G) ANYONE WHO LIVES PAYCHECK TO PAYCHECK AND CAN BARELY AFFORD BASIC NECESSITIES (while living on credit) ARE POOR PEOPLE ON PAPER...regardless of what you believe. credit card debts and bad/low credit score is a sign!
H) just because i can go to the US today and find a job DOES NOT Mean i cant be broke and/or still poor in the US.

FINALLY, the fact that you believe that there is no poverty in the US (unless by choice) makes me truly believe that you obvously dont know much about the US/Europe or you are just one of those Africans who landed, found a low paying job that paid 10 times what you were making in Nigeria and suddenly believed you were rich (or that everyone in the US is). i can take you today to some entire neighborhoods in Atlanta/Miami, LA and you will see nothing but poverty and ghettos (and drug addicts dont rent the houses/apt there). go check Liberty City, Overtown, Opa Locka in Miami and tell us it isnt rampant with poverty. some people in NY can only afford shitty dumpster apts that i wouldnt even let my worst enemy live in. NO POVERTY IN THE US....yeah right!

until they start by arresting and jail famous Nigerian crossdressers, like bobrisky, james brown or denrele etc that are flaunting their lifestyles everywhere on tV and social media....the above is just a waste of time, space and energy.

the problem is not that yeye immature virgin (who couldnt take rejection), the problem is YOU believing this mambo jambo nonsense!

this is who you are, you are a man who gets easily tired of women and dump them. there is NOTHING WRONG WITH YOU. when you eventually mature and find the right person, you will settle down. until then, dont be blackmailed into these people's lifestyle.

NEVER SETTLE FOR LESS just because thats what these people wanted you to do.

as i have always said....some of the most respectful and advanced people yet most bleeped up people in the world, are by far JAPANESE PEOPLE!

sex championship matter is getting out of hand....especially since it is useless to Africans since its the EUROPEAN sex championship.lol!

Blaze14k:
Bro lemme clear in case you think you are talking to someone who is a novice to foreign land. When i was in the United Kingdom its by choice to be poor. You can easily get a job you want that can pay at least 8 pounds per hour. There are so many africans who work pay there school fees and still got to school. Being poor in uk is by choice.

Lemme be frank with you, you can travel anywhere you want just for 1 pound a day and that is very cheap. If you like you do a week plan or a month or a year, they call it student oyster. Dont let anyone deceive you that people are poor overseas.

again, thats because you dont understand the point here... many have families/children/homes/bills to pay and can only get these yeye £8/hr jobs (especially if laid off at +40yrs old)...do you think you can feed a whole family with children with such salary?! wouldnt you consider such person POOR? you yourself, do you think that with your £8/hr as a single man you were not poor (simply because you could pay your school and small chop)?! do you think that someone who receive benefits from the gov aint poor? poverty aint just making money, its about NOT being able to afford basic needs such as food/Shelter/clothing/healthcare etc. many in the UK dont have that luxury. just because you are sharing a flat with 15people, and can afford indomie 3 times daily does not mean you aint poor. many are just an accident away from requesting a hospital stay that they cant afford, many are a paycheck away from being homeless, many are a paycheck away from being hungry. just because you go to the UK and manage to SURVIVE, does not mean there aint no poverty in the UK.

i guess in your mind, the 15% poverty line in the UK is a myth then... there is some much abundant jobs for everybody in the UK and immigrants like you taking up jobs left right and center is irrelevant to the poverty in the uk, right?! i guess the people lining up for work in jobcenters are rich people who are too lazy to work, yeah?

OChimex:
😂 people in Europe/US don’t catch public bus because they are poor. They do that because of convenience, like lack of parking space and they do no want to drive long distance/ or not wanting to leave their car long enough at the airport.
There is no poverty in Europe and US. Anyone who is poor is by personal choice or illegal immigrant.
But Nigerians and subjected to poverty by fire by for lice by their leaders.

A) lack of parking?! drive long distance? i guess in your world, every single person in the US has a car, thus why they dont catch public transport abi? lol! just in New York, which has 3 major airports; 55% of households in NYC (aka 5 boroughs) dont own a car.
B) many people who live paycheck to paycheck in the US own a car and are still broke (thanks to car notes)!
C) as for you saying that there is no poverty in US/Europe (unless by choice)... you sir dont know what you are talking about. many people in US/Europe are poor because they can barely survive their paycheck to paycheck lifestyle. some cant even afford a home in places like NY/LA etc close to 40millions americans are poor, and immigration (legal/illegal) aint helping the numbers go down. same as Europe where poverty line is about 15% of the population (especially in places like France, UK, Spain, Italy)

i can take you to Paris today, and show you GHETTOS a stone thrown away from any tourist attraction. no poverty in US/EUROPE (unless by choice)?! you must be a comedian!

Blaze14k:
Most poor people overseas are living above standard when you compare to nigerians that are poor. How many people can you find at least 50k in there account in nigeria

some yeah, and others are jobless/homeless people who aint got 1kobo to their names... aka many immigrants who thought they were gonna become the next Jeff Bezos, and ended up in the streets with no money for food nor shelter and/or return ticket.
there is poverty EVERYWHERE in the world...the difference is the percentage...in Africa its about the majority of population, in the US/UK its around 15/20% depending on where you look. i am talking people who cant even get money for food nor shelter. go to any of these trailer park in the US, thats where you will see real poverty with no drugs or anything affecting them.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMr5JjEOzkY

it all depends on how much you will ask for it in Nigeria VS price you will be buying it in China

1) DISRESPECTFUL PEOPLE
2) UNTRUSTWORTHY/DECEITFUL PEOPLE
3) PHYSICALLY/EMOTONALLY ABUSIVE PEOPLE