₦airaland Forum

BUTCHCASSIDY:
Interesting. I love these insights I try to see similarities between EA peeps and us in the west. I know our Hausa language and the swahili is very similar like the numbers in hausa is the same over there. Then the fulanis too are cattle people though their cattle is not as big as yours over there..

Hausa is a Chadic language, Swahili is a bantu language. Poles apart. The similarities arise because of Arabic adoptions,e.g waziri means minister. . I have heard Hausa spoken, can't understand a thing, have heard Zulu /Xhosa /Shona/Bemba etc being spoken,i can get the gist.

BUTCHCASSIDY:
All right its too early to talk about za oza room (or the other hut if the massai warrior gets lucky )

But thats what you girls want ... the brave warrior guy maybe he will make a gift of lion skin for you

Correct, the killing of a lion was a rite of passage in the maasai community, it's largely gone into hibernation, but some folks tells me it still happens . As for za oza room let @ZarZar decide for herself.

ZarZar:
Gifts for everyone eg. blankets, tobacco etc & brandy for the old men. You can't lose a negotiation with good booze

ok. we are going places now. I understand old elders and booze in negotiations, they better specify if its umqombothi or some expensive scotch whiskey. Do i have to fight your brothers in a stick fight?

BUTCHCASSIDY:
I noticed this cow thing as bride price is common across east and south Africa yall share almost the same culture.
I heard in Uganda and Tanzania they have this beer made from bananas that theu give as part of the negotations

Yes, in the Gusii community in Kenya, the banana beer is very important. Also among the Teso in both Kenya and Uganda, although their traditional beer is millet and sorghum based. I also noticed a beer component amongst the Nyakyusa of Tanzania.
Cows are a huge part of life amogst EA peoples, alot of things hang around how many cows you own. personally, i believe in the dairy type, money everyday guaranteed!

LeSudAfricaine:
it's true when these groups found the San or the Khoisan they fought with tem killing them,and mating with them that's why the Xhosa language with its "clicks" is similar to the San language, I guess it's also why south Africans are on average lighter complexioned.

Okay, you have absolutely no idea how ordinary kenyans are fascinated by the clicks in isiZulu and isiXhosa. How comes SeSotho and SeTswana are without click sounds?

BUTCHCASSIDY:
Really... tell me more First she (zarzar ) cooks pap then...

the pap she cooks will be subjected to a very serious engineering test.

ZarZar:
Mtumsuper is the only one that offered to marry me No, the girl is not involved at any time during the negotiations, except to admit that she knows the guy in question, then she's hurried away for the adult talk to resume between the two families.

psssst!! . asides from the cows, what are the other requirements? Don't forget to include what auntie in the village wants. details details are important, sisi!

ZarZar:
LMAO @ python killing skills. I'm not marrying a snake & bat eating Nigerian now, I'm marrying a Massai warrior, so no need for vermin hunting skills 4 cows!? That's too low in my culture. Our bride price is quite pricey, so save up, mpenzi wangu I had to look up the last part

more than 4 cows!!! nooo! that's economic terrorism. Btw maasais just love eating meat and the very traditional ones will drink a special blood /milk mix, a certain researcher i know told me this is why they don't suffer cancer rates like other kenyan communities.

BUTCHCASSIDY:
hol' up let me get this straight ( Mtumsuper too)
So first she cooks pap for the uncles as a first step
Then after they bring the cows n'est pas?

yes, she must cook pap first. no negotiations on this. The stages between pap cooking and cows are very many and complicated.

ZarZar:
Hahaha. I can't cook pap, it's not my staple. I'm a fantastic cook though Send the uncles over for lobola negotiations Me ever ready!

okays, so you guys also do the uncle thing. Eerrmm, nowadays in Kenya, the unwhispered standard is 4 cows! maximum 4!!! alert me ahead of time. It's alright if you can't cook pap, am sure we'll survive on spaghetti and meatballs, or perhaps we can do pizza and chips and chicken for a change.


Wait, we're on nairaland, so you're python killing skills be better up to standard, so no uncles visiting mzansi until you can kill a python with one blow.

LeSudAfricaine:
but in Swahili you say " hakuna matata" and in Sotho you say " hao na mathata" they both sound similar and they both mean the same thing

africans move from there to here and from here to there since God put us all in the African continent so no surprises. Hao na mathata sounds so cool.
Btw, south africans (and Zimbabweans as well!!! ) cook very soft pap. We like our pap (called ugali/sima in kiswahili and kwon in my native tongue ) ,very hard by your standards. In fact cooking bad pap for your husband is a serious crime in some communities in Kenya, it can get a wife a good beating. @ZarZar, how are your pap cooking skills, am under pressure here to take on number 2.

ZarZar:
You said "Sanibonani", which is Zulu for "Hello there". Then you said "Le kae?"- Sotho for "How are you?". I replied "Siyaphila" to your Zulu greeting. "Siyaphila" is a reply given both by Zulus & Xhosas to a greeting. I'm Xhosa, btw. "Re teng" is "All is well" in Sotho. So you mixed two languages in one greeting, which is understandable I can't speak nor understand tshiVenda but the rest I can, so big ups to you for understanding the least spoken & least understood language in SA. How do you say "Hello" in your language? Which language do you speak?

i am a kenyan. most kenyans are at the very least bilingual. Many are trilingual. I am from the luo people and my maternal grandmother is from Tanzania. In our language, which is a non bantu language, we say, idhi nade? as a greeting meaning 'how are you? ' The reply is 'adhi maber'or 'am doing fine/well'.
Kenyans and tanzanians speak kiswahili (a bantu language ) as a national language, so most of us are intrigued to hear other bantu languages. Zimbabwean shona fascinates me the most. It's very understandable to me.
Can you compile a typical greeting card in Xhosa for us? How to greet, how to ask for water or food. Ps: isiXhosa and isi Zulu are so close, the untrained ear thinks they are the same.

IronGalaxy:
it's actually "sawubona" when greeting one person and "sanibonani"when greeting more than one person

thank you sir for the correction , if we were in grade school and you were my teacher, i would have received 5 cuts across the palm, and i would run home crying to my mum

ZarZar:
Lol, nice one. Both not my home language but siyaphila/re teng

ok correction taken. siyaphila / re teng is which south african language? my Kenyan ears understand isiZulu and tshiVenda most. Sesotho and Setswana are so sexy for my ears

ZarZar:
No.

my dear, greetings to to you, Sawubonani? Le kae mma?

I lived / studied in SA and the things she has to say about the rape statistics are spot on, i mean its crazy. I wouldn't let my precious little princesses grow up in such a climate, its too toxic. A former colleague of mine, who is a black south African Xhosa speaking woman told me something that was astounding : the worst place to be a young woman today is south Africa and Congo DR(a misnomer, since it's actually the very undemocratic republic along the Congo River ).

nyangau123:
fake news, since when did Kenyans start to drive on the right side of the road

Yup, where do you find kenyans who speak with thick nigerian accent, and which police in Kenya wears that uniform?

OLAADEGBU:
It's too late now, you just had the enemy of State ruling or misruling for the last 8 years. Thank God for Trump who came to the rescue before the State imploded.

you need help.

OLAADEGBU:
If you say his brother is his own enemy does that not make Barack Obama enemy of the State?

false connection,unbalanced argument .. malik is his brothers enemy. Read my earlier comment for its literal value. Ps: Enemy of the state cannot serve as Potus, just to clear the air.

i couldn't take this, i just threw up!

Muafrika2:
Ee
Its quite heavy. Kununua Ni kuuza

and kunyama ni kula or so am told.. plus the french injections. crazy.

youngest85:
U called this one Kenyan?

She is, are you?

Mister2:
Can Nigerians vote since we are all Africans

Nope

Kirigidi:
There are many Kenya citizens who are descendants of Indians who migrated en-mass during British colonial rule and helped the British built the early railways networks in East Africa. They later settled as permanent citizens and integrated into the Kenyan society after the end of colonial rule in the 1960s.

Please educate your brothers and sisters, they have a lopsided view of other African countries. When a Nigerian man emigrates to Poland and integrates well into polish society, and can even run for mayor or play in the National football team, we all clap. Just for clarity, asian communities exist in other African countries as well.

so where is the news worthiness of this story? Even more astounding it makes front page. How do naija people think, somebori just take me through this slowly.

Great idea to solve a nagging problem, not so great with the execution. I think the spatial design is blaze, and i wish Airbus could tell us how much carbon this module added to the atmosphere during construction and in operation.

Muafrika2 come hear Congolese Swahili

Muafrika2:
And it seems we are on a second wave of exploitation. The minerals that had slept underground for years are suddenly being "discovered" all over the place. If we don't awake soon we may end up worse off than before.

mmhhmm western economic interests are a powerful global force. They eschewed slavery and colonialism not because they were morally reprehensible, but they were too expensive to maintain. Instead they appointed superintendents and agents all over the continent, if you ask for your fair share you'll be called a foolish devil( mjinga shetani shenzi) .ring a bell?

OLAADEGBU:
If his blood brother could not vouch for him does that not tell you the kind of person Barack must be?

All am saying is just because he's blood, doesn't make him family. Blood and family, not the same thing..

Muafrika2:
The African national governments have demonstrated inability to insist on contracts that make sense. I don't know what kind of hidden power these miners wield to swindle and still make governments act like their agents. It's cases like these that remind us its not yet UHURU. And that 5% is cut from the little(1% or less) that the government has will get. Not even 5% of the total revenue.

The Turkana are not smiling Am waiting to see if the oil companies will turn it into a mini civil war as they have in Nigeria. God forbid.

Thank you for the point of information. I was wondering why a I never heard of these great people.

Oil and solid mineral interests and oligarchs are just the business side of politics, they just specialize their roles, otherwise they eat dinner together. Any surprise the Halliburton ceo became VP under bush, or p*ssy grabber now in charge? Obama was a compromise candidate to assuage the world and make imperialism look cool and to undo the damage the Bush years did to Amerikkkas image. We are screwed in Africa, till we get woke and start demanding our rightful share in the world.

QueenAfrica36:
Lol thank you, but I am 5'5 with a more full build. My dads people are all, dark and slim. My mom's side are more short, lighter and a little round (because of my great grandmother being half white I'm sure). My grandfather on my moms side however was average height, very dark, slim build.
He has no living male children and he died before I was born, so I cant test his lineage I don't believe, but I am most interested in Maternal and Paternal. If I am Nigerian I am going to attend a naming ceremony and change my name, which will be chosen by elders... Dream come true to me.

Aframs have interesting ancestry. I suggest you go to the website http://www.forumbiodiversity.com/index.php and go to the section dealing with Human variation, DNA ancestry incl DNA companies . Visit the cultural anthropology section too, because your cultural self identification is also part of your identity.
Take bigfrancis advice about naming, but remember, your ancestors came from a wide coastal sweep from Senagambia to Angola/Namibia and 500 miles or more inland, not forgetting SE Africa. You can take any name from any tribe there.
Good luck with your search and would you like to share the results with us?