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Abuzola:
Stinking lady

Softly, Abuzola.

Alhamdulillah.

[quote author=tpia. link=topic=339047.msg4752168#msg4752168 date=1255791576]where does it say in the koran that Jesus came to destroy the teachings of Moses? [/quote]Who says this and where?

LOL What a pure fabrication? I think even going-to-nursery kid who is fair-minded could fathom the hidden fraudulence of that paper. Whoooa! In this 21 century where computer literacy is one of the easiest thing one can do. . .funny indeed.

And these verses--2:191 & 9:11, you too know, deep down inside, aren't talking about apostate. And if they are bring up their full versions. Am not now with my Qur'an.

Let me re-iterate it: am waiting for any Qur'anic verse that clearly states capital punishment for an apostate or even an authentic hadeeth that says this. Waiting. . .

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superboi:
plain common sense, isreal has nuclear weapons and has not used it or threaten to use it on iran. but iran government without nuclear weapon keeps talking of wiping israel off the face of the earth, now imagine if they have nuclear weapons?

Just go straight forward and answer this question: who are the real terrorist between Israel who murdered thousands of Palestinian depenseless children and Iran who were nearly annihilated by Iraq?

[quote author=Aloy~Emeka link=topic=339047.msg4752009#msg4752009 date=1255790101]Go and check the meaning of gospels before asking your question. Gospel means the teachings of Jesus Christ. There is nothing like the gospels in the old testament.[/quote]Twofold case:

1- I am really meant to write Scriptures as thats what you are referred in the Qur'an. Thus I'll edit the thread's title right-away, inshaAllah.

2- I was wrong by writing Gospels. . .and I am correct, for Jesus's had not come to destroyed the teachings of Moses, which is in OT. Isn't it?

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@Abuzola,

Don't force anything down to Emeka's throat. Let him or any other sincere Christian respond.

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Cut the long crappy and lengthy response, Aloy, and open up your mind if you really wanna understand things.

Ridda (reverting FROM Islam) is not a capital punishment issue. The problem is that at one point a group of people were executed but it wasn't for Ridda it was for Fitna. Fitna is deliberately causing confusion/chaos. This group went to Mohammad (saaws) in the morning, claimed they converted to Islam then by nightfall they would all address the community saying there were problems with Islam then revert away from islam agian. They did this a few times to lure people away from islam and they were executed for that - Fitna (chaos/confusion etc) but not for Ridda.
People reverted from Islam during the time of the Prophet and he never ordered them executed.

002.256 Let there be no compulsion in religion

081.027 Verily this is no less than a Message to (all) the Worlds:
081.028 (With profit) to whoever among you wills to go straight:

I am, as many Muslims are, aware that in some communities this fact is misunderstood and some Muslims still do not understand that what is punishable by death is Fitna not reverting from Islam. And if that is done (as its being in some muslim communities) does not make it necassirily and purely Islamic.

And lastly, I would like to see any Qur'anic verse or hadeeth that states capital punishment for an apostate.

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Thanks for the prompt response, Aloy~Emeka.

But you seem to have missed my point; although am a Muslim, as known most of you, but I prepare not to say anything Islamic here for I'm only and only interested in knowing what's said in the Bibles. So, pack my faith aside, pls.

Secondly, re-read the OP or even the its title: I say Gospels. . .that include both OT and NT. And, you should note; I'd not begun this thread without some inclinations about whats said. If I am to elaborate I would say explanations. . .and not just whats said. Get that?

Thanks once again

Thanks for the alert.

olabowale:
omo tpia yi o nsun ni?

[quote author=tpia. link=topic=338297.msg4746047#msg4746047 date=1255704026]^^ true talk.

Make I go sleep abeg.[/quote]

muhsin:
@Aloy~Emeka,

You are kiddingly and shamelessly very cunning: after being publically defeated as you last time tried to established a lie of Honor Killing and attach it to Islam, you came back here with Apostate issue. Hmm. Keep trying to dent and defame Islam and Muslims; you'll never succeed. I assure you, inshaAllah. Islam remains the only true religion on this planet. And I'll start praying for you; may Allah, the Exalted, guide you to the right and straight path, ameeen.

@All,

This issue is being misunderstood by many people around Islamic countries. But it need closer cross-checking and examining. It's only and only doing that that could prove the real case in point.

Get lots to say, actually, but before then I'll like to hear from our Christian brethren: supply to us mentione of Apostate in your Scriptures--OT and NT? And its punishment? Please forgive me if I am off-topic. . .just trying to address the question at stake from a certain direction.

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You guys decisively evaded my question above. I've had just openned a thread on the Religion Section looking for that answer. And after that I'll inshaAllah continue on here.

Here it is: Question: Apostates In The Gospels

Hi there,

I have been longing to know of what's said in the Christain scriptures concerning apostates. Is apostasy a sin or not? If the answer there is yes, meaning apostate is a sin, then what is his punishment. More-over, if there is a punishment who is responsible to carry-out the punishment.

Waiting for your sincere responses.

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Salam, brothers

May Allah bless you, but. . .

[quote author=Aloy~Emeka link=topic=333205.msg4745998#msg4745998 date=1255703696]The proof is that only Muslims from different tribes and races in the world practice honor killing. If its not Islamic culture, then what is it?[/quote]Is this reply mean to make ppl laugh? I start

You are welcome. And I'll, inshaAllah, join rightaway.

Assalamu alaikum,

[center]Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying:

There are ninety-nine names of Allah; he who commits them to memory would get into Paradise. Verily, Allah is Odd (He is one, and it is an odd number) and He loves odd number. And in the narration of Ibn 'Umar (the words are): "He who enumerated them."


Muslim - Book 35 - Hadith 6475[/center]

Salam, brother abulbanaat

May Allah, the Exalted, increase in your ilm and reward you abundantly for the good job. My hat is off to you.

May He show people like Nezan the light of His religion--Islaam, ameen.

That answers nothing, JeSoul.

Honor Killing is not Islamic, I repeat; if its prove that. And if you cannot, simply shut up. Chapter closed.

Next case. . .

Good to hear.

@Aloy~Emeka,

You are kiddingly and shamelessly very cunning: after being publically defeated as you last time tried to established a lie of Honor Killing and attach it to Islam, you came back here with Apostate issue. Hmm. Keep trying to dent and defame Islam and Muslims; you'll never succeed. I assure you, inshaAllah. Islam remains the only true religion on this planet. And I'll start praying for you; may Allah, the Exalted, guide you to the right and straight path, ameeen.

@All,

This issue is being misunderstood by many people around Islamic countries. But it need closer cross-checking and examining. It's only and only doing that that could prove the real case in point.

Get lots to say, actually, but before then I'll like to hear from our Christian brethren: supply to us mentione of Apostate in your Scriptures--OT and NT? And its punishment? Please forgive me if I am off-topic. . .just trying to address the question at stake from a certain direction.

Thanks

Assalamu alaikum,
[center]
Narrated By Safwan bin Muhriz:

A man asked Ibn 'Umar, "What did you hear Allah's Apostle saying regarding An-Najwa (secret talk between Allah and His believing worshipper on the Day of Judgment)?" He said, "(The Prophet said), "One of you will come close to his Lord till He will shelter him in His screen and say: Did you commit such-and-such sin? He will say, 'Yes.' Then Allah will say: Did you commit such and such sin? He will say, 'Yes.' So Allah will make him confess (all his sins) and He will say, 'I screened them (your sins) for you in the world, and today I forgive them for you.'"

Bukhari - Volume 8 - Book 73 - Hadith 96[/center]

Some people are very funny. Whenever something does not rhyme with their shallow thinking, they behave like a caged animal. . .

Nezan:
^ Stop confusing yourself man, boko haram are muslims and they reject education, period!

And what more?

Nezan:
You muslims have a peculiar way of going round and round if you are boxed into a corner. Ask Muhsin and he will tell you how we have been able to argue things to a logical conclusion.

Here is Muhsin; what'z up, dude? Hope you are doing just fine.

Salam,

Abuzola has never been more thoughtful than this time around; he, from the beginning, made it clear that these folks were only gonna copy and paste these alleged contradictions in the holy Qur'an. And now see! This "prediction" has come and passed. Nezan has already started doing that thing. Shame, shame, shame.

Brother abulbanaat, after right refuting these allegations, I will like you to finish the work for them and simply go to answering-islam site; copy and paste and aptly debunk each claims. May Allah increase in your knowledge and bless you, ameen.

May He also guide us to the straight and right path.

Nezan:
1. I dont like condoning insults from children. If you cant show respect and decorum, stop responding to my posts.

2. What is comprehensive about justifying practices of the dark ages with the modern age? The practice of childbrides, whether
then or today, will continue to be wrong, and a degradation of womanhood.

I had just intended to peep through; not lon-in. But what Nezan says above captured my attention and arouse my interest to say some few words and disappear.

And thats the bold portion. As far as I know (and am damned sure everyone also knows), Nezan remains the only and only person creating nuisance; and thats by deploying insults not to an individual member but to our noble prophet Muhammad, may Allah exalt his mention. Yet he's there shamelessly enough accusing Abuzola of rather being insultive and abusive. How unfair of you?

And to the mentioning of condoning; I in particular have been helplessly condoning this constant mocking of our beloved prophet by Nezan. I say Nezan again and again. Hmm. Thats after the sudden disappearance of his Masters. I know you know who and who I mean.

Please get more rationale when writing next time. Thanks for your understanding.

Assalamu alaikum,

[center]
Narrated By Abu Aiyub Al-Ansari:

The Prophet said, "While defecating, neither face nor turn your back to the Qibla but face either east or west." Abu Aiyub added. "When we arrived in Sham we came across some lavatories facing the Qibla; therefore we turned ourselves while using them and asked for Allah's forgiveness."

Bukhari - Volume 1 - Book 8 - Hadith 388[/center]

GODSON2009:
so you are only praying for your co believer?i though unbelievers required more prayers

Thats true; but not in such a scenario.

Any way, may Allah, the Exalted, guide you to the straight and right path, ameen.

May Allah, the Exalted, bless you, abulbanaat. I like your postings.

Didn't you know?