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Christianity Etc › Re: Nephilim And Sons Of God: Who Are They? by MuttleyLaff: 7:39pm On Oct 04, 2019*

EMILO2STAY:
some of you just like complicating simple things. The bible made it clear the nephilim were as a result of angels and humans sleeping together. Yet you guys are trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill.

MuttleyLaff:
I dont know where and how from, in the Bible, you've got misled to believe in that fable and fictitious story. Man always have an innate desire to propagate tittle-tattle, cőck and bull story that angels and humans sleeping together. Butter nobi monkey food. Who dash ~~monkey~~ angels banana

EMILO2STAY:
well if you don't believe that is your problem. The evidence this begins existed is around us today. All this goes to confirm the bible. So if you are forming wise man by not believing that is your problem.

MuttleyLaff:
Why would I believe a slander? Dont people have no shame in believing in this slander ni, erhn? Now tell me, what's being gained and/or achieved with this cőck and bull story that angels and humans slept together belief, hmm?

Dont you know that "thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour," the eighth commandment, forbids speaking falsely in any matter, and you're in any way, not to speak unjustly against your neighbor, especially to the prejudice of his/her reputation. In fact, lying, especially when devised and designed to slander your neighbor, whether an angelic celestial being or not is a total no-no

Where is the evidence, what is your evidence, put it out then, let's see if it will stand up. Let's see if your cőck and bull story that angels and humans slept together belief will remain valid after a close scrutiny, critical review and/or detailed analysis, erhn?

Yes I am forming wise man, in not believing a fabled cőck and bull story that angels and humans slept together. It is called conformity of the mind to the fact(s) and it isnt a problem.

The best thing about forming wise man is Wisdom herself. Good sense is more important than anything else, a multitude of the wise is the health of the world. "Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding", so says Proverbs 4:7 and Proverbs 3:13 corroborates, by saying: "Blessed is the man who finds wisdom, the man who acquires understanding," so what's your problem, with any forming wise man, huh?

EMILO2STAY:
lol the fact your forming wise does not mean your wise. I will prove your with wisdom to be empty if I begin to give you evidence. I dont think you want to go that direction with me.

MuttleyLaff:
You laughed because I am sure you know I didnt first bring up the subject wise, you did and literally did, with an accusitive wagging forefinger too.

Pride comes before the fall

I'll go any direction and 10 miles further with you. Yes, you should feel lucky, so make your first move

MuttleyLaff:
Why would I want you to add to the Bible? Have I asked to you to add to the bible or actually asked you to back up your answers with Bible and prove beyond reasonable doubt, hmm? I have been fair and generous from the onset with you. I even gave you the option to say "I don't know" that's if you are finding it answering any of the questions. What more do you expect from me

Hmm, Chief please don't start with porkies. I won't lie to you, so please don't lie to me too. I never anywhere, said there were no Nephilim. I never attributed the Nephilim any time to be sons of God. Please go over again all what I typed and asked you concerning the Nephilim and sons of God

Smh, if you had answered all my questions, all this won't happen and you trying to make excuses that I am typing too many words. Do you find my "too many words" intimidating or threatening ni?

I already made myself clear how and when that will happen. Do the right thing and in order, instead of trying to pull a fast one and jumping the gun

To be honest, I am increasingly beginning to think you're out of your depth here with this subject, but you don't want to admit or resign to this fact

MuttleyLaff:
You're a greater and/or bigger joke than I could ever be. You just wait, you'll soon see and find out. You would eat your words and tender profuse apology for talking out of hand like this

I have asked you to provide proof beyond reasonable doubt and with chapters and verses, but you've woefully been unable to say and show where or how you made out that sons of God are or equates to angels

The book of Job, hasn't got anything in it calling sons of God angels.

2 Peter, never said anything about sons of God being angels, but rather it is talking about fables and people like you believing in and spreading rumours that angels had sex with human beings

The book(s) of Enoch, right from the first century has been known to fake, this is why Peter and Jude, even Paul, were talking against it in their individual letters.

It is only a naïve person that will type such a comment like this.

It doesn't diminish the fact and truth about the extraction of whom the daughters of men are. Wickedness started from Cain.

The men in Genesis 6:1, refers to the combined lot of the sons of God and the sons of men, obviously encompasses the daughters of men and daughters of God

EMILO2STAY, fyi, the internet never forgets. You did a good job of exposing yourself for what you really are. An ignoranus, pompous self opinionated so and so.

Christianity Etc › Re: Nephilim And Sons Of God: Who Are They? by MuttleyLaff: 6:16pm On Oct 04, 2019

EMILO2STAY:
mtcheww

Mtcheww yourself

Christianity Etc › Re: Nephilim And Sons Of God: Who Are They? by MuttleyLaff: 4:34pm On Oct 04, 2019

EMILO2STAY:
mtchewww!!!!

Lol, smh look at someone who believes angels had sexual intercourse with female human beings doing mtchewww, letting that shameless and confused baba/mama be egging him on and encouraging him to remain languishing as an ignoranus.

Unless you provide the proof, thats beyond reasonable doubt and with chapters and verses, to show where or how you made out that sons of God are and/or equates to angels, you will never live it down. Now more frankly typing, I am embarrassed for you, because you have not the grace or humility to realize how a fool you've made of yourself on this thread, aside from taking pride and delight in your ignorances and ignoranus self

Christianity Etc › Re: Book Of Enoch Reveals So Much. It's So Unbelievable! by MuttleyLaff: 4:21pm On Oct 04, 2019*

budaatum:
You are the one who thinks everything in the Bible is literally accurate muttley, and quibble over silly stuff like [url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+5%3A3-18&version=NIV]sixth or seventh[/url]. Do you do the same with the contradictions in the gospels I wonder or do you ignore those?

MuttleyLaff:
... You better not want to go down this route with me because if you did, I would drag you down places you'll becoming uncomfortable in, that you'll end up screaming for mercy and shouting blue murder

... I am no spring chicken. I have given you an opportunity to shine, by asking you to give me your best shot, out of all your, the seemingly inconsistencies and alleged contradictions in the Bible, if it wont be explained to you. C'mon, bring it on, why the sudden cold feet, hmm?

... when you lay your crooked stick(s) down before me, I dont need to argue with you, I dont need to explain how crooked your stick is. All and the only thing, I need just to do, is lay a straight stick down by the side of yours, and wallah, the work is well done, your crooked stick, error and you will stand embarrassed and ashamed.

Smh at "Do you do the same with the contradictions in the gospels I wonder or do you ignore those". In face of the evidences that this fairy tale of a book, the Book of Enoch and its blatant concoction about Enoch's position, whether as a listed descendant from Adam (i.e. the sixth descendant of Adam, from being son of Jared) or as a listed descendant from Cain (i.e. the second descendant of Cain) is glaringly wrong, you still openly and unashamedly are digging in your heels.

Your ad hominem is not working, so now you with "Do you do the same with the contradictions in the gospels I wonder or do you ignore those" resort to strawman argument(s). Why not try, though a tangent, why not go open up a thread and bring on your "contradictions in the gospels," and let's see if or not, the wind will be taken out of your sails and you be taken down a peg or two.

budaatum:
The issue is not however where Enoch stands from Adam but why Jude quoted him.

For crying out loud budaatum, Jude is not mentioning nor is he making any reference to either of the two Enochs, in the Bible. Fyi, Jude is mentioning the Enoch in the fairy book "The Book of Enoch" and not, either of the Enoch ones in the Bible.

budaatum:
Enoch was before the flood so not much about him was known by Jude but he is correct in mentioning him regarding what he did and which I explained to you in my previous and which you fail woefully to comprehend just as you fail to understand Jude!

Jude is not mentioning the Enoch before the flood. Lol, Jude is not mentioning anything about either of the two Enochs who existed before the flood, but rather was talking about the star character featured in the Book of Enoch, whom the author self styled himself after and called Enoch.

Smh, lol "omode o mo ogun, o npe lẹfọ," as I pointed out to you earlier on this thread, the Enoch in the Book of Enoch, is not any of the Enochs in the Book of Genesis. This is a cooked up and contrived Enoch, just the same way the Book of Enoch is a one big hoax of falsehoods, deliberately fabricated and masqueraded as a truth.

I hate saying this, but I earlier told you budaatum, that there are many holes to burst with that text you quoted from the Book of Enoch, but that I was for starters just going to start with the "... Enoch is seventh from Adam ..." howler first.

As I earlier also said, I can go further in exposing the other holes, just as Jude too, did with and in Jude 14, but smh, you woefully still have your head wrapped up staight inside where the sun dont shine

Christianity Etc › Re: Nephilim And Sons Of God: Who Are They? by MuttleyLaff: 3:21pm On Oct 04, 2019

EMILO2STAY:
still going in circles?,... I give up Mr man.

I have given up on you a long long time ago even before when I earlier asked you to provide proof beyond reasonable doubt and with chapters and verses, but you've woefully been unable to say and show where or how you made out that sons of God are and/or equates to angels. You then prevaricated and ducked the request, before developing the gall and cheek to be contesting that Cain's descendants are not the sons of men and/or daughters of men. Unless you respond, you arent ever going to live this down

Christianity Etc › Re: Book Of Enoch Reveals So Much. It's So Unbelievable! by MuttleyLaff: 12:06pm On Oct 04, 2019*

MuttleyLaff:
[img]https://s3/images/EnochMuttleyLaff.jpg[/img]

budaatum, a mere read of the above and especially taking notice of the red underlines should enlighten you, perhaps

budaatum, please when discussing the genuineness of the Book of Enoch, please learn to quote from the Bible and reference the scripture directly, as opposed to quickly finding and taking solace in this accursed Book of Enoch

Also please stop this prooftexting bad habit you've taken a shine to and employed to use on this thread

budaatum, please show anywhere in the bible, mind you, I am not talking of a source from the Book of Enoch, but that you please should show where in the scripture aka Bible, that Enoch is seventh from Adam. Thank you.

Once you have given that answer, we can go further in exposing the other holes just as Jude too did and with or in Jude 14

Christianity Etc › Re: Nephilim And Sons Of God: Who Are They? by MuttleyLaff: 12:03pm On Oct 04, 2019*

budaatum:
As you can see MuttleyLaff, I'm not the only one telling you about your excessive wordiness. Must be because you think you deserve that much of ones time.

We are telling you that you don't deserve the amount of ones time that you think you do when you do not use your brain.

Dumb and dumber. Why arent I not surprised that birds of the same feather flock together to side each other, erhn? "Adiẹ funfun, ti o mọ ara lagba" White feathered fowl that's behaving badly and not acting its age angry

Christianity Etc › Re: Book Of Enoch Reveals So Much. It's So Unbelievable! by MuttleyLaff: 10:50am On Oct 04, 2019

budaatum:
Hola at me muttley, when you do the use your brain non-yadayada word diarrhea without the ad hominem version please. I refuse to insult my brain with that tripe!

You are behaving like an illiterate numbskull having difficulties reading to understand

Christianity Etc › Re: Nephilim And Sons Of God: Who Are They? by MuttleyLaff: 10:46am On Oct 04, 2019*

EMILO2STAY:
and you have failed to mention the portion of the Bible that that states cain descendants are the reason for the nephilims and the flood. You have also failed to prove in any way at all that the sons of God in genesis is talking about the children of seth as you claim. Proof!!!! That is all I need, not not pointless ranting Mr waste of time.

I do recall, if you don't anymore remember, that I earlier have asked you to provide proof beyond reasonable doubt and with chapters and verses, but you've woefully been unable to say and show where or how you made out that sons of God are and/or equates to angels, but now you have the gall to be contesting that Cain's descendants are not the sons of men and/or daughters of men

Christianity Etc › Re: Nephilim And Sons Of God: Who Are They? by MuttleyLaff: 10:41am On Oct 04, 2019*

budaatum:
Word diarrhea of the yadayada type is what he's known for. He drowns his sense in his poo.

https://www.nairaland.com/5448144/book-enoch-reveals-much-unbelievable#82827196

baba, piss off, "a ma peyin, to ba kan yin, agba ntara shọbọlọkọ" poking nose into not where called into. I thought you were a sensible person. I now withdraw my apology to you earlier today. I'll go and cross it out now. Mtcheew angry

Christianity Etc › Re: Jesusjnr Is Now An A.T.H.E.I.S.T!!! by MuttleyLaff: 9:43am On Oct 04, 2019

jesusjnr:
Sorry for pooping on your expectations. Lol!

Be sorry for yourself, that's all you're good at, good at digging up dirt, good at mudslinging dirt at people and good at pooping, as you are the pro in the word coprophilia.

Christianity Etc › Re: Nephilim And Sons Of God: Who Are They? by MuttleyLaff: 9:33am On Oct 04, 2019

EMILO2STAY:
it wasn't done in good light so that means they are the sons/daughters of men and the reason they begat nephilim., so any one today whose great grand father was a murderer will become sons /daughters of men and will begat a nephilim..... What a joke of a man.

The one and only joke here is your pitiful comical self. Please why don't you further amuse me with telling who were the daughters of men, hmm?

EMILO2STAY, stick to the matter and person we are discussing here. May I remind you, it is Cain and no other persons. We are discussing the antecedents of Cain and his descendants. It was because of the bad influence and increasingly bad behaviour that the world was destroyed with a flood.

Christianity Etc › Re: This Carnivorous Plant Is Enough To Change The Mind Of An Atheist by MuttleyLaff: 8:51am On Oct 04, 2019

EmperorHarry:
I believe the answer he was looking for would be 3. Abdulgaffar22, I go with 3. Now make your case for design. Why would a designer be so interested in the adaptive features of this one carnivorous plant? What's so special about this one?

I go with #1 and #3. The case being based on God's omniscience, as in ability to know all things in advance and from that knowing that the world will fall from grace, hence necessity and built in adaptability will need to kick in, as in when required to do so.

Christianity Etc › Re: Book Of Enoch Reveals So Much. It's So Unbelievable! by MuttleyLaff: 7:58am On Oct 04, 2019*

budaatum:
Jude was warning about individuals whose condemnation was written about long ago who have secretly slipped in among you. They are ungodly people, who pervert the grace of our God into a license for immorality and deny Jesus Christ our only Sovereign and Lord.

Is that all? Is that all that Jude was warning about individuals whose condemnation was written about long ago who have secretly slipped in among you? Was is that, the ungodly people, were perverting the grace of our God into a license for immorality and deny Jesus Christ our only Sovereign and Lord, only?. Were that the only things about them that Jude denounced, hmm?

budaatum:
He quotes from the Book of Enoch, the seventh from Adam who prophesied about them:
“See, the Lord is coming with thousands upon thousands of his holy ones to judge everyone, and to convict all of them of all the ungodly acts they have committed in their ungodliness, and of all the defiant words ungodly sinners have spoken against him.”

Dont you quote questionable source sites to make a point budaatum, hmm? Jude quoting from a well known first century bestseller fake book in no way, is to be taken as if he was validating or endorsing the book

budaatum, if you were Jude and in his shoes, how would you be able to expose the fraud in the Book of Enoch, without quoting it, to show it up for being a forgery, hmm?

budaatum, there are many holes to burst with this quote from the Book of Enoch, but I'll for starters just start with this:
Please show anywhere in the bible, mind you, I am not talking of a source from the Book of Enoch, but that you please show where in the scripture aka Bible, that Enoch is seventh from Adam

Once you have given that answer, we can go further in exposing the other holes just as Jude too did and with in Jude 14

budaatum:
I have given evidence for Enoch in the commentary link. He is born in [url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+5%3A4-20&version=NKJV]Genesis 5:4-20[/url] before the flood and referenced in [url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Hebrews+11%3A5&version=KJV]Hebrews 11:5[/url] afterwards as the sort of faith one should have long before Jude quotes him to justify his condemnation of those who even Jesus said were broods of vipers and [url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+7%3A15&version=KJV]wolfs in sheeps clothing[/url] who give stones for bread and [url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+7%3A15-20&version=ESV]lead themselves and others astray[/url].

[url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+23%3A13-39&version=NIV]Woe to them[/url], Christ said, as Enoch said before him and Jude here afterwards and in his time.

Without wanting to beat about the bush, let me cut to the chase, the person Enoch, in the Book of Enoch, is not neither of the Enochs, as in, he isnt the sixth descendant of Adam (i.e. son of Jared) nor is he, the second descendant of Cain, but is no other than himself, the author of the Book of Enoch. Check out the following screenshot grab, coming next below, for more on this

budaatum:
A mere read of the beginning of the book should enlighten you, perhaps.

[img]https://s3/images/EnochMuttleyLaff.jpg[/img]

budaatum, a mere read of the above and especially taking notice of the red underlines should enlighten you, perhaps

budaatum:
BOOK OF ENOCH CHAPTER 1

I-V. Parable of Enoch on the Future Lot of the Wicked and the Righteous
I.
1. The words of the blessing of Enoch, wherewith he blessed the elect ⌈⌈and⌉⌉ righteous, who will be living in the day of tribulation, when all the wicked ⌈⌈and godless⌉⌉ are to be removed.

budaatum, please when discussing the genuineness of the Book of Enoch, please learn to quote from the Bible and reference the scripture directly, as opposed to quickly finding and taking solace in this accursed Book of Enoch

Also please stop this prooftexting bad habit you've taken a shine to and employed to use on this thread

The others, the Book of Enoch braggers shy away, only you, show you've got balls, to head on come, and want to discuss the genuineness or not, of the Book of Enoch. Well done.

[s]I take back all the past day or two spat I've had with you. Forgive me, if you've felt offended.[/s]

Christianity Etc › Re: Nephilim And Sons Of God: Who Are They? by MuttleyLaff: 6:46am On Oct 04, 2019

EMILO2STAY:
lol this man you suddenly woke up. I will address your mentions tomorrow.

I light years ago stayed woke nwanne. It is about time you too stay woke. I forgot this thread on the back burner, only for OpenYourEyes1 to remind me of it with the "Book Of Enoch Reveals So Much. It's So Unbelievable!" thread below:
https://www.nairaland.com/5448144/book-enoch-reveals-much-unbelievable

EMILO2STAY, when you do come back to address, just remember that, I said the mention of the descendants of Cain was not done in good light. Take for example, talking about the immediate descendants of Cain, like Lamech, who was the first to take two wives, and thus was the first to prepare the way for polygamy. The same Lamech admitted to killing another man, just like his great, great, great, great great grandfather Cain. Jubal, who was Lamech's son, was the father of all who play the harp and flute, only that, the music that was made didnt have God in any of their melodies. They devised their harps and the organs, to shut God out. Lamech was also the father of Tubal-cain, the inventor of warfare and dangerous other weapons.I can give other examples of Cain's descendants behaving badly. In fact, the seven generations of Cain, are perceived as the brood of Satan, and accordingly represented themselves, as types of rebels.

Christianity Etc › Re: T by MuttleyLaff: 8:05pm On Oct 03, 2019

budaatum:
Yawn.

Ko ma dafun yawn. Hin no go beta for yawn. angry

Christianity Etc › Re: Book Of Enoch Reveals So Much. It's So Unbelievable! by MuttleyLaff: 7:07pm On Oct 03, 2019*

budaatum:
You go first muttley. What you claim about Jude is the opposite of what Jude is claiming as can be seen by anyone who reads it.

Here is commentary on Jude 14-15

budaatum contextually what is that Jude letter all about, hmm? Second, are you trying to suggest and advance that Jude was in that letter was subscribing, endorsing and giving the Book of Enoch a clean slate of bill, erhn?

Nah, I insist, you go first, lay down your understanding, then, I will after put my down alongside yours. It will distinguish whose version of event is right, just by only doing that

budaatum, I don't want somebody's else poxy second handed commentary. Lay down in your own words, as your brain understands that letter, what it is saying and what contextually, it is talking about. Man up about it, put your money down where your mouth is.

Christianity Etc › Re: Book Of Enoch Reveals So Much. It's So Unbelievable! by MuttleyLaff: 6:49pm On Oct 03, 2019

budaatum:
No he wasn't! He was denouncing those Enoch prophesied about and denounced!

If you really know what you are talking about and understand, contextually and all, what that verse is saying, please bring it on and lay it down, let's see what you come up with, hmmm?

Christianity Etc › Re: Book Of Enoch Reveals So Much. It's So Unbelievable! by MuttleyLaff: 6:31pm On Oct 03, 2019

Fyi, OpenYourEyes1 don't mind budaatum, because that Jude 1:14-15, is one where Jude was denouncing the Book of Enoch with the heresies, fables and myths it plagued the early believers with in the first century. I am sure, you didn't know anything about that and you are just hearing that Jude, along with Peter and Paul, as I earlier mentioned, were against the Book of Enoch and myths. I know you now are itching to know more about this how they denounced the laughable book of over stretched imaginations and fantasies.

Christianity Etc › Re: T by MuttleyLaff: 4:45pm On Oct 03, 2019

budaatum:
[s]MuttleyLaff:
Piss off baba slash mama, go find better work for your idle mind and hand please.
[/s]

You have decided to be a tool in the devil's workshop, abi. You have joined the gang. Agba ntara.

Christianity Etc › Re: T by MuttleyLaff: 4:38pm On Oct 03, 2019

budaatum:
www.nairaland.com/attachments/10305449_beer17571181e9behd_jpeg_jpege8ff725b014e8f82813375cd02ffc883

Piss off baba slash mama, go find better work for your idle mind and hand please.

Christianity Etc › Re: T by MuttleyLaff: 4:37pm On Oct 03, 2019

Piss off baba slash mama, go find better work for your idle mind and hand please

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Heaven Is No Longer My Target by MuttleyLaff: 4:34pm On Oct 03, 2019

theButterfly:
Being Christ-like [which is similar to aiming for God's heart] should always be our target.

Plus respect for the divinity of our Lord, God, Jesus Christ, and the wholesome believe in the resurrection of Jesus, the son of God.

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Christianity Etc › Re: T by MuttleyLaff: 4:28pm On Oct 03, 2019

budaatum:
Please let him know how much of that word diarrhea you actually read. It might help him correct his ways.

Why don't you take your shitty diarrhoea head out of comments addressed to me please. Thank you but no thanks angry

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Heaven Is No Longer My Target by MuttleyLaff: 3:44pm On Oct 03, 2019*

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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Heaven Is No Longer My Target by MuttleyLaff: 3:43pm On Oct 03, 2019

jesusjnr:
Lol!
You don't even know the question your homosexualist pal you quoted smacks of ignorance and is absolutely unwarranted?

jesusjnr, nobody, because of butter and biscuit, calls a dog or monkey, bros now.

About smacks of ignorance and whether or not anything is absolutely unwarranted. What is your take, hmm, on when shadeyinka, was telling you jesusjnr to:
"Ask any sincere Muslim this question:
Is Allah the same as Jehovah?
Maybe this will answer your questions."

jesusjnr:
Hence there's nothing to answer in the question as the answer is already there in the quote with the question.

The smello, yeye dey smell self proclaimed prophet "His Eminence" jesusjnr, who has no modicum of shame in him, you can prevaricate for as long as you like, but though of course, God was with Ishmael, Abraham's son, you you will, never ever be able to show scripture, just one scripture that talks of God, declaring, specifically, that He is the God of Ishmael, like in a similar and same way God went out of His way, to emphatically declare He is the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

jesusjnr:
Now listen good.

Anytime you hear or see anywhere in the Bible where it was said that God was with someone, it means He's the God of the person, and that the person serves Him. For God can meet someone, talk to someone and yet not be the person's God, but God can never be with any one who doesn't serve Him. Never!

Eisegesis, on steroids, is written all over this comment. Do you see how you are contradicting yourself with the "... For God can meet someone, talk to someone and yet not be the person's God ..." comment.

Thank you very much, for when you confirmed with your own words, that, "... For God can meet ~~with Ishmael~~ someone, talk to ~~with Ishmael~~ someone and yet not be the person's ~~Ishmael's~~ God ..."

Listen good, you son of Belial, you son of disobedience, you son of worthlessness, God was not the God of Ishmael, the same way God was not the God of Cain, was not the God of Esau

jesusjnr:
Moreover this was the revelation God gave to Moses for this purpose, because Moses wasn't there when it happened, but God deemed it needful to tell Moses who was a Israelite, that He was with Ishmael to show that He was also the God of Ishmael.

It is written there in the Bible, and if it was anyone else it wouldn't be an issue, but because of your anti-Islam sentiments, it's hard for y'all to swallow that the God of Abraham was the God of Ishmael.

Where, where is it frigging written there in the Bible, you slimy lying snake following the path and way of the serpent, hmm? Why not for once in your life, show where it is written so to put the devil to shame, erhn?

God, on the strength of His relationship with Abraham, declared He was with Ishmael. God, at no time, clearly, firmly, publicly nor officially ever declared He is the God of Ishmael. Stop putting pieces together that dont fit

This matter has got nothing to do with any anti-islam sentiment(s), you ridiculous and negatively amusing person, but it is about the unashamedly done openly and showing no regret, disdain that Islam has for the divinity and resurrection of our Lord and God, Jesus Christ

jesusjnr:
So now you know I already followed my advice even though you were blinded to it by your sentiments against Islam.

Your snake-like senses, have even made you to lie to yourself that you followed your advice, when you no where have. Smh.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Heaven Is No Longer My Target by MuttleyLaff: 10:49am On Oct 03, 2019

Zither:
Oga, follow your advice and provide an answer to the question.

Don't mind the smello, yeye dey smell self proclaimed prophet "His Eminence" jesusjnr. He hasnt any modicum of shame in him.

Christianity Etc › Re: Book Of Enoch Reveals So Much. It's So Unbelievable! by MuttleyLaff: 9:06am On Oct 03, 2019*

OpenYourEyes1:
The TRUTH must be known!

OpenYourEyes1, how tall were the Nephilim in the Book of Enoch? Dont give an answer, its a rhetorical question, and I will help with answering it and answer with proof:

"And they became pregnant, and they bare great giants, whose height was three thousand ells: Who consumed all the acquisitions of men. And when men could no longer sustain them, the giants turned against them and devoured mankind."
- the 7th chapter of the Book of Enoch

OpenYourEyes1, fyi, an ancient ell is roughly a cubit or 18 inches. Therefore, the text actually is saying that these giants were 4,500 feet tall, as in nearly a mile tall. Some supporters of the extreme figures argue this is a textual error and that the verse should read 300 ells, or 450 feet, which is still a waste of time joke.

The truth must be known about this fake news book of slanders and over imaginative fantasies.

Christianity Etc › Re: Nephilim And Sons Of God: Who Are They? by MuttleyLaff: 8:39am On Oct 03, 2019*

EMILO2STAY:
here you go again typing too much with out a single proof. Honestly am tired of you. If you've got a point to make just go straight to it.

I have asked you to provide proof beyond reasonable doubt and with chapters and verses, but you've woefully been unable to say and show where or how you made out that sons of God are or equates to angels and you now have the effrontery to claim you're tired etcetera. Smh.

EMILO2STAY:
go and read genesis 6:1 to 2, then come back and apologize to me for the woeful answer about genesis 6:1 you just gave me.

What point are you trying to make with Genesis 6:1-2. Spill it out, say exactly what you are trying to advance and insinuate with it now. Man up, tell the world

EMILO2STAY:
Honestly muttleylaff I thought you were an intellectual and well versed in scripture but I know the kind of human being am dealing with now.

Here is someone who has trouble telling his/her left from his/her right hand thinking he/her knows about another human being

EMILO2STAY:
Did you know that the generations of cain were listed even before the generations of Seth?

EMILO2STAY did you know that:
1/ The so called listed generations of Cain werent listed and done in good light, hmm?
2/ The so called listed generations of Cain werent at all featured nor mentioned in the book of the generations of Adam?
3/ There is nothing like or anything called "the generations of Seth".

EMILO2STAY:
Why were they not called nephilim? Or sons of men?. You are the person who have not provided a concrete or even a single proof of this your sons of God daughters of men theory.

I have answered your question about who the Nephilim were, when I said that the Nephilim, were off an extraction from Cain, the same way the daughters of men were, whom the sons of God (i.e. descendants of Seth) went into and having sexual carnal knowledge with, as opposed to going with the daughters of God (i.e. the descendants of Seth)

EMILO2STAY:
think your a true waste of time man.

EMILO2STAY, how tall were the Nephilim in the Book of Enoch? Dont give an answer, its a rhetorical question, and I will help with answering it and answer with proof:

"And they became pregnant, and they bare great giants, whose height was three thousand ells: Who consumed all the acquisitions of men. And when men could no longer sustain them, the giants turned against them and devoured mankind."
- the 7th chapter of the Book of Enoch

EMILO2STAY, fyi, an ancient ell is roughly a cubit or 18 inches. Therefore, the text actually is saying that these giants were 4,500 feet tall, as in nearly a mile tall. Some supporters of the extreme figures argue this is a textual error and that the verse should read 300 ells, or 450 feet, which is still a waste of time joke

If you ask for more, I can list you more waste of time jokes apart from the one above.

Christianity Etc › Re: Book Of Enoch Reveals So Much. It's So Unbelievable! by MuttleyLaff: 7:49am On Oct 03, 2019

OpenYourEyes1:
I think people who are blinded by the World will read and not understand it.

Everything you need to know is hidden in the dream GOD gave to Enoch. The dream is very cryptic and precised. It tells everything that will take place from the time of Enoch to the end of the world.

Once you separate yourself from the world & follow Jesus Christ, the truth will flow easily. The filth and lies of this world is blocking the truth.

Reading and believing and you will understand.

MuttleyLaff:
You're a greater and/or bigger joke than I could ever be. You just wait, you'll soon see and find out. You would eat your words and tender profuse apology for talking out of hand like this

I have asked you to provide proof, beyond reasonable doubt and with chapters and verses, but you've woefully been unable to say and show where or how you made out that sons of God are or equates to angels

The book of Job, hasn't got anything in it calling sons of God angels.

2 Peter, never said anything about sons of God being angels, but rather it is talking about fables and people like you believing in and spreading rumours that angels had sex with human beings

The book(s) of Enoch, right from the first century has been known to fake, this is why Peter and Jude, even Paul, were talking against it in their individual letters. Fyi, there are at least three different versions of the Book of Enoch.

It is only a naïve person that will type such a comment like this.

It doesn't diminish the fact and truth about the extraction of whom the daughters of men are. Wickedness started from Cain.

The men in Genesis 6:1, refers to the combined lot of the sons of God and the sons of men, obviously encompasses the daughters of men and daughters of God

Christianity Etc › Re: T by MuttleyLaff: 5:31am On Oct 03, 2019*

Michellekabod2:
Nah muttley. Someone prayed an unchristian prayer and instead of calling him out you second him?

MuttleyLaff:
"From day one, there are lots of fools, like yours truly, keeping abreast of this thread, but fyi jesusjnr, you're one of the greatest and biggest fools, I've ever come across among us all. It was another greater and bigger fool that even liked your foul smelling nauseating post

I dont know who your wife is, who is influencing you, but do know you are of the spirit of King Ahab, a covetous increasingly evil king in Israel's history, who abused his responsibility and led God’s people right into idolatry, leading others into idolatory, as in for example, like you and Apostle EnthronedbyGod MIA breaking the first and second commandment of God, as it is only a delusional person, like yourself, Apostle EnthronedbyGod MIA and bunch of gullible others, who dont know they are delusional, to the extent of believing they have seen the face of Jesus Christ, to the extent of even, putting an image, physical feature and/or picture to Jesus' face."
- Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by MuttleyLaff: 10:17am On Sep 01

Ignoranus jesusjnr duh, what do people call those who talk about animal rights, who talk about the thoughtless cruelty to animals, who talk about animals that surely they deserve to live their lives without suffering from predijuces, discrimination, fear of death or being killed etcetera and who fight for animal rights, hmm? Olodo rapata upon twenty.

"Keep on being busy under satan's yoke, with images of Jesus. Alright? If anyone wants to know what Jesus looks like, all they need doing is to look at a neighbour

I have warned you before, I do recall that, I've told you to repent. You better take heed to my warning, as a legit moG, unlike the fraud and charlatan that you are. God is slow in anger, but trust me, if you headstrong keep toeing this path, the punishment and fate you rightly deserve is just round the corner doing sit-ups because of you. I know you wont repent, wont take heed of the warning because you are a bigger fool than I am"
- Religion/Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by MuttleyLaff: 9:58am On Aug 20

Yinmu @ yẹyẹ smello dey smell toerag, self-styled, self-proclaimed prophet jesusjnr.
When the devil's finally had enough or gone on tea break, I hope and pray this poor tormented false prophet jesusjnr aka Apostle EnthronedbyGod MIA, gets lucky because as he isnt relenting or changing for the good, thats the only way he can and will escape his journey enroute to the lake of fire, last bus stop, hell.

MuttleyLaff:
You won't be this laughing, when you're getting sizzling roasted in the lake of fire, if you don't wisely repent.

MuttleyLaff:
... Kanye is no stranger to gravitating towards his believers' roots, spirituality and late mum's gospel influence, nobi today yansh don tay for fowl's back ooo. Kanye West with Che Smith co-wrote "Jesus Walks"

Kanye always meant business. He's got a foot in heaven's door, while you jesusjnr, havent got a sniff of any of the twelve pearly gates of heaven

MuttleyLaff:
... You are a sex starved big mofo. Abeggy go siddon in a corner somewhere jaare and go jack your nuts off, to release your tension, before you turn into "onye ara" because of sexual frustrations

Mr.President1, you and your broda, jesusjnr, belong in the same group. Una both like to talk like someone wey bin like say hin don smoke Oshogbo "gbana" and just as I earlier said, las, las, because of that, na straight to hell bin dat for both of una. Una go, go directly to hell, una nefa go pass GO, and no go collect $200. This will not be una portion though, if una both repent sha. Make nobody say dem bin curse una.

MuttleyLaff:
CaveAdullam, again, and on my knees, I say, please sheath your sword and hold your peace, begging you. This is not a fight for you, please remain silent about this jesusjnr fellow. jesusjnr's cup of wrath is filled to the brim, he next soon will be drinking the cup of trembling, if he does not repent and make peace with God

MuttleyLaff:
"... jèsusjnr, ... cut from the same cloth... nothing but a two-faced liar, a lurking green snake in the green grass, and an accuser/fault-finder of Paul"
- Re: Daddy Freeze: The Second Coming Of John The Baptist by MuttleyLaff: 9:05pm On Dec 25, 2018

"jesusjnr and àlBHAGDADI should go start fertilizer plants.

àlBHAGDADI will distort anything in the bible in order to justify entitlement to tithes and so validate, spread and promote obligatory or imposed ecclesiastical monitised tithing. jesusjnr, on the other hand...

Repent brother because the day of reckoning for your slander and impudence, is round the corner, about to happen."
- Re: Daddy Freeze: The Second Coming Of John The Baptist by MuttleyLaff: 8:44am On Dec 27, 2018

"People like you, and the likes of Agrogbeide, jesusjnr etcetera understand only to the level of your perception(s). Just think for a moment, how much pleasure you are giving Satan with your discrimination, hypocrisy, bigotry and ignorance. How you are not making every effort to present yourself approved to God, not being a workman that has no reason to be ashamed as he accurately handles the word of truth. You arent correctly and rightly dividing the word of the truth, the message of God's truth"
- Re: THE SIN THAT IS SO PREVALENT. by MuttleyLaff: 8:51am On Apr 28

I will be the first to admit that jesusjnr and EnthronedbyGod are right about me being a fool, but they both are bigger fools than I am

jesusjnr, whos said I am a fool, but doesnt realise he is a greater fool than I am. jesusjnr, for getting involved in a matter that doesnt concerns him, is a bigger fool, than I am. It is an unintelligent fool, someone like jesusjnr, who goes yanking sleeping yanga's leg, looking for yanga's trouble. I am not perturbed about the noises around the MuttleyLaff ID or mudslings thrown at it. I know all each what you jesusjnr and EnthronebyGod are doing and being up to

Argh, this is so wrong, yuck, WORMS coming out of the woodwork, LEECHEES crawling out of the DARK, RATS coming out of their holes they call home and LURKING GREEN SNAKE IN THE GREEN GRASS, the confirmed and bonafide likes of jesusjnr, comes out in the open and begins to sing too.

The woodwork creaks and out comes the freak, jesusjnr.

Nah Michellekabod2, you're looking at all these with and/or from the other end of the telescope

Someone prayed ~~an unchristian~~ prayer, now why do you expect, instead for me to call him out, when as evidenced from above, which are sample quotes out of many other instances of me, first to have prayed etcetera for jesusjnr. Yes I first and on almost every occasion have warned jesusjnr that he is treading a path that has disastrous end if he doesnt repent or change

Michellekabod2:
Jesusjnr is an ass, but praying such a prayer for someone is worse off than jnr supposed false teaching!

I'll rather feed crumbs to bums than feed a jesusjnr snake with steak. jesusjnr, like I've earlier advised him, should start taking super hot showers to practice getting used to burning in the lake of fire, thats if if doesnt repent or 180 degrees change

Michellekabod2:
Back to the bone of contention-the topic.
As a Christian I saw nothing wrong with Calling Allah God.

Michellekabod2, nobody, because of biscuit, calls a dog or monkey, bros now.
Do you see anything wrong or right in shadeyinka, telling jesusjnr that:
"Ask any sincere Muslim this question:
Is Allah the same as Jehovah?

Maybe this will answer your questions."

Michellekabod2:
Is it Because he is worshipped by Muslims?

"¹⁶While Paul was waiting for them in Athens, his spirit was troubled within him when he saw that the city was full of idols.
¹⁷So he reasoned in the synagogue with the Jews and with those who worshiped God and in the marketplace every day with those who happened to be there.
¹⁸Then also, some of the Epicurean and Stoic philosophers argued with him. Some said, “What is this pseudo-intellectual trying to say?" (i.e. What is this blabbermouth trying to say?) Others replied, “He seems to be a preacher of foreign deities” — because he was telling the good news about Jesus and the Resurrection.
³⁰“Therefore, having overlookedae the times of ignorance, God now commands all people everywhere to repent,
³¹because He has set a day when He is going to judge the world in righteousness by the Man He has appointed. He has provided proof of this to everyone by raising Him from the dead.”
³²When they heard about resurrection of the dead, some began to ridicule him. But others said, “We’d like to hear from you again about this.”"
-Acts 17:16-18; 30-32

Michellekabod2, it is because He is worshipped in ignorance. It is because He is worshipped in denial of the divinity and resurrection of Jesus Christ by Muslims

Michellekabod2:
Why does it seem a taboo to call Allah God?

God showed and told who He really is. People are ignorant of an absolute truth, that though, permissibly and in the circumstances used, really, Allah is not God

Michellekabod2:
I think the issue is so sensitive and require personal revelations as the Bible may not contain all evidences to back up or debunk the claims that Allah is God

"God also said to Moses, "Say this to the Israelites:
Yahweh, the God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you.
This is My name forever; this is how I am to be remembered in every generation.""
- Exodus 3:15

"I am Yahweh, that is My name; I will not give My glory to another or My praise to idols."
- Isaiah 42:8

"even Yahweh, the God of Armies; Yahweh is His name of renown!"
- Hosea 12:5

Michellekabod2, permissible amount of sentimentality under the circumstances, because most minds are not ready or capable to accept the reality that Allah is not Yahweh, God.

Michellekabod2:
Needless to say, things shouldn't be debunked because they sound absurd or not what we are used to knowing...

Lets stop hanging out with people that tell us what we want to hear, but hang out with people who tell us the truth. Why cant we commit ourselves to the truth, to see truth like it is and tell it like it is, hmm?

Michellekabod2, isn't it a bad thing to be deceived about the truth, and a good thing to know what the truth is? For I assume that by knowing the truth, this means, knowing things as they really are, like that, God isnt necessarily Allah. Michellekabod2, stupid is knowing the truth, seeing the truth, but still believing the lies by trying to force together, pieces that don't fit.

Christianity Etc › Re: T by MuttleyLaff: 5:30am On Oct 03, 2019*

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