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Christianity Etc › Re: The Trinity Confusion: God The Father,The spirit of God,The Son of God.. by MuttleyLaff: 5:23am On Oct 12, 2019

jesusjnr:
With respect to the bolded, they do so in error because it is not technically correct, however it is an error that is quite spiritually inconsequential because God has put everything into the hand of His Son Jesus', and considering how humble God is, He wouldn't be bothered about it.

But technically speaking, you are correct that Jesus is not God Almighty, and neither is He the equal of God Almighty, because Jesus Himself said that the Father was greater than Him.

Jesus Himself said that the Father was greater than Him, but under what circumstance and/or in what context, did Jesus make this remark, huh jesusjnr?

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Was The Book Of Enoch Removed From The Bible? by MuttleyLaff: 10:45am On Oct 11, 2019*

missjo:
But I already confirmed this in my post with the interpretation of that verse Muttley

missjojo, show your hand, put your cards on the table and put face up.
1/ What is your position, concerning the son(s) of God?
2/ How possibly did the Nephilim gene survive since after all the Nephilims were all destroyed in the flood?

Christianity Etc › Re: Nephilim And Sons Of God: Who Are They? by MuttleyLaff: 7:45am On Oct 11, 2019*

Maamin:
Lol..I am not a woman Mr. Truth is clear and separate from falsehood. You can deny and reject all you want but be rest assure that will not change a thing.

https://www.nairaland.com/5450889/why-book-enoch-removed-bible/2#83031926

kkins25:
MuttleyLaff

I dont price goods anymore from that marketeer. Sorry kkins25, but if you have specific questions, ask me directly, you know I always oblige you

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Was The Book Of Enoch Removed From The Bible? by MuttleyLaff: 7:40am On Oct 11, 2019

missjo:
This was funny to read.
Sons of God in Genesis refer to fallen angels exclusively. Let me break down Genesis 6:4 for you, i will put my comments in parenthesis:

Genesis 6:4 King James Version (KJV)
4 There were giants in the earth in those days (BEFORE the flood, the result of the union of the fallen angels with the daughters of men); and also after that (AFTER the flood also, proof of this from the twelve spies sent into Canaan and Goliath), when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown. (in the original Hebrew texts, this part in italics follows the first part of this verse directly)

This is how it should have been translated:

Genesis 6:4 King James Version (KJV)
4 There were giants in the earth in those days (before the flood), when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them; and also after that (after the flood), the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown

The funnniess is in you treating a serious issue with an unscrupulous deliberate misinterpretation, all in the quest of achieving this inappropriate, seriously flawed and blasphemous "join the gang" agenda to slander angelic majesties. Smh, I expected more from you, missjo.

Except someone wants to seal their fate, it literally is written, you must not add anything to or subtract anything from the Bible, but you've decided it is a clever idea to add a situation that never happened and use "(BEFORE the flood, the result of the union of the fallen angels with the daughters of men);" and "(AFTER the flood also, proof of this from the twelve spies sent into Canaan and Goliath)," to embellish the facts and truth. All this dishonest shabby attempt, just to draw off the scent from who really are the sons of God. The ill-informed are a ready and most useful tool.

missjo, fyi, and this coming from the bible, Cain, the woman's firstborn turned out to be a seed of Satan and a killer of Abel, the seed of the woman. The Nephilim were already existing via Cain's lineage. The Nephilims when man fell, originally came about as the fallen ones. Giants population increased and got aggravated to becoming a menace to society when the sons of God suddenly found the daughters of men's beauty powerfully and mysteriously sexually attractive to.

"There were giants in the earth in those days, yea, and after that the sons of God came unto the daughters of men, and they had born them children, these were mighty men, which in old time were men of renown. "
- Genesis 6:4 Geneva Bible printed before KJV

"There were giants in the earth in those days, yea, and after that the sons of God came unto the daughters of men, and they had born them children, these were mighty men, which in old time were men of renown. "
- Genesis 6:4 Geneva Bible printed before KJV

"Soothly giants were on the earth in those days, forsooth after that the sons of God entered [in] to the daughters of men, and those daughters begat; these were mighty of the world and famous men (these were the mighty and famous men of the world)."
- Genesis 6:4 Wycliffe Bible printed before KJV

missjo, as you can see from above, all exegesis, expository and hermeneutics, say the Nephilim were already existed contemporaneously with the sons of God, that the Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them and so in line with my viewpoint

Now missjo, what you failed to realiase, is that even after the flood, the Nephilim gene did survive, and that is why the proof of this from the twelve spies sent into Canaan and Goliath. Now I bet you're itching scratching head, wondering and asking the question, what is this "Nephilim gene did survive" all about. I coud tell you more about the Nephilim "renown" aspect too if you ask, as in whats thats about as well

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Was The Book Of Enoch Removed From The Bible? by MuttleyLaff: 7:40am On Oct 11, 2019

Maamin:
Yet celestial beings can take human forms, leave their first estate, appear like humans

Maamin, that exactly, is it, celestial beings can take human forms, leave their first estate, appear like humans, however there is one being only who is superior to all celestial being who took human form, to appear as human

Maamin:
... till the point humans want to have carnal knowledge of them in (Sodom and Gomorrah)

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So? They didnt have carnal knowledge of them in (Sodom and Gomorrah), besides they wouldnt have been able to have knowledge of them in (Sodom and Gomorrah) because the angels werent real human beings like Jesus was, they werent real human beings, they appear looking like human beings remember just like you above said, hmm?

Maamin:
... they can eat as well and do other human activities.

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So what? Sure they can eat as well and do other human activities, bar have physical sexual intercourse with human beings and get married

Maamin:
The Bible called them sons of God in Genesis 6:2, Job 1:6, Job 2:1.

Maamin, please I'll do anything, crawl over broken bottles and shattered glass pieces, just to see where, "gangan paato", in the Bible, it is, in a clear and detailed manner, leaving no room for confusion any/or doubt, that angels, in a way that is exact and clear, are called and/or referred to as sons of God

Maamin:
Yet MuttleyLaff keep denying the glaring evidence.

Maamin, Maamin, Maamin. Maamin how many times did I call you, hmm? Please be careful ooo. Oya, please show where the Bible, in a clear and detailed manner, leaving no room for confusion any/or doubt, called angels or referred to them as sons of God?

Where did you read the Bible called angels sons of God and that they can do anything they please? Please share that interesting Bible verse for all to read Maamin. Please help a brother out, show in a manner that is not open to more than one interpretation, where the Bible shows and tells that angels are sons of God. Thank you.

Of course, I know Genesis 6:2, 6:4, Job 1:6, 2:1, 38:7 and Luke 20:36 and that they never talked of angels as or being sons of God, but I wanted to be sure you and others like EMILO2STAY, missjo, kkins25, budaatum etcetera are not hinging your conjectures on any other bible verses, I am not aware of

Don't be reluctant to give the information I've asked Maamin because I am willing and ready to show you who and who and who the Bible called son(s) of God in Genesis 6:2, Job 1:6, Job 2:1, and other parts of the Bible you're oblivious and ignorant of. I will show you what kofam and bonafide TKO really is. You'll be technically knocked out cold, without seeing where my unexpected sucker punch came from, talkless to say, you'll know and understand what's the blow I've hit you with. Maamin, scripture will be used to back up where human beings are the ones, and not angels, who are called son(s) of God.

Nowhere in the bible, is it forcibly or clearly expressed that angels are sons of God. What is so difficult, in admitting this truthful fact Maamin, hmm? Is it pride, erhn?

Christianity Etc › Re: Nephilim And Sons Of God: Who Are They? by MuttleyLaff: 7:41am On Oct 10, 2019

kkins25:
clever tactic, metatron. does this apply to angels who are under the enuchian rule of God?

Read my lips, angels are celestial beings, who only take on appearance of human forms when on assignment from God. Except when being on official assignments, celestial beings never take on form that look or resembles human beings

kkins25:
this is the first time i hear of the name satanel.

Liar, liar, pants on fire

kkins25:
does this entity exist, is he synonymous to lucifer, is this entity the same one that fed eve/slept with eve/ asked her to look within instead of outside?

No, you're mistaking the celestial being who influenced the serpent to get Eve eat the fruit

kkins25:
can they procreate but are forbidden to or they simply can't. keep in mind that you once mentioned i cant remember if you did exclusively; nonetheless that there are feminine angels.

They simply cant. Angels are genderless kkins25

kkins25:
moresor, with regards to the book of enoch, wasnt the whole idea of Gods hormonal induced raged triggered by disobedience of this angels, when they began to know daughters of men and to know the ecstasy of cumming to earth?

No, there were no angels involved in any of this, dont mind Maamin, EMILO2STAY and Co.

Christianity Etc › Re: Nephilim And Sons Of God: Who Are They? by MuttleyLaff: 7:34am On Oct 10, 2019

Maamin:
Genesis 6:1-4 KJVS
And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,
[2] That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
[3] And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
[4] There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.he nephilims, were already on the earth in those days, meaning they already existed, before the sons of God began to have sexual relations with the daughters of men. The Bible in black and white doesnt not and cannot lie Maamin please.

The giants in the earth in those days came from where? ..ok use this logic Cain went to the land of Nod and got himself a woman. Where did the people of Nod came from? Did they fall from heaven? Same way the Giants on Earth in those days came from the sons of God and daughters of men. Deal with it

You are already eating your words. Let the Bible be truth and all men liars.

The Bible says otherwise ....keep reading it , it will Dawn on you soon.

You are the one adding to and subtracting out of the scriptures.

The rest is crappy epistle as usual.

You this woman, you dont want lay down lying, you're a glutton for punishment, right?. Wait for me to revisit today in the late PM. Lets once and for all trash and kill this demon from the pit of hell you've being dragging. I think, I've managed to get grab you enough by the wrist of your hand now, EMILO2STAY didnt want to take the bait, but I think you took a nibble of it, that small bit you took, does me real fine, to set about going for your jugular now with a two-prong attack, lol.

Christianity Etc › Re: Who Created God? by MuttleyLaff: 7:24am On Oct 10, 2019*

kkins25:
you see my friend, when conversing with monikers like buda, you should read twice if not probably thrice before replying. buda is a notorious conman of words. he is like a colorful toad, attractive but poisonous.

You cracked me up yesterday, leaving me bursting out in laughter on the public walkway reading this comment and especially the last sentence above. Can I borrow using the phrase "buda is a notorious conman of words. He is like a colorful toad, attractive but poisonous," Wow. You dont worry, as I will credit you as the originator of the phrase if/whenever I get to re-use it

kkins25:
let me elaborate, what is a spirit?
can this question actually be answered? the demon in you might be looking and laughing saying; "this shadeyinka no know anything self".
you have not seen a spirit in your life. prove me wrong.
the bible or any other religious book for that matter does not clearly define the nature of a spirit/God.

"Angels only take human forms when on assignment from God. Except being on official assignment, celestial beings never take on form that look or resembles human beings. This is part of the reasons, why no one has ever seen physically Satan or seen a demon. I repeat that only human beings were given the mandate to procreate, never celestial beings also known as angels."
- Re: Who Said Angels Don't Have Sexual Feelings? by MuttleyLaff: 12:43pm On Feb 09

Unless a spirit is sent on an official assignment by God to one, one will never ever physically see the spirit. Though spirits might be about where one is, one will never ever physically with eye natural vision see such spirits, except a type of 2 Kings 6:17 "O LORD, please open his eyes that he may see" Elisha prayer is answered

kkins25:
shade, if a spirit is not bound by time and space does that mean that God...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bb8KZps4woA
Those arent brothers in the above video, that's one person, that is Agent Smith, from the film Matrix
Just look at that kkins25! Beautiful isnt it? That's child play for God to do, meaning easy for God to do more than one place at the same time within the same dimension or multi dimension

kkins25, did you see how Agent Smith was multiplying? Did you watch him being in more than one place at the same time within the same dimension, hmm?
Is it far fetch or difficult to believe, that God can do more and better than multiplying Himself like done by Agent Smith, in that sci-fi film, erhn? Is it something hard for God to as well do, huh?

kkins25:
or any spirit can decide to re-live the past? can other spirits be in two places at the same time within the same dimension or multi dimension.

"“Where have you come from?” the LORD asked Satan. Satan answered the LORD, “I have been patrolling the earth, watching everything that’s going on.”"
- Job 1:7

"As I was praying, Gabriel, (i.e. angel) whom I had seen in the earlier vision, came swiftly to me at the time of the evening sacrifice"
- Daniel 9:21

As far as, I am aware, two places at the same time within the same dimension or multi dimension, is an exclusive right of only one particular Spirit alone, and tha happens to mean, only God alone, can pull this kind of stunt.

Spirits, also known as celestial beings and/or angels, who can fly faster than the speed of light and so be anywhere at the drop of the hat (i.e. as noted in Job 1:7 and Daniel 9:21 above)

kkins25:
if what you define up there is indeed through then my friend wouldn't it seem ridiculous; God flooding the earth when he could simply rewind time.

Rewinding time, isnt just like that going to solve the existing problem kkins25. Sweeping things under the carpet, just isnt to fix or address the existing problems kkins25 and you know that

kkins25:
i remember this same brouhaha with another devil of a wordsmith muttleylaff. can you shade elaborate what it means to not be bound by space?

You would have been correct and right if you had said or used "another eudaemon, eudaimon or eudemon of a wordsmith MuttleyLaff" You're a smart guy, so I am sure you'll go figure that out what eudaemon, eudaimon or eudemon is, lol

kkins25:
what do you understand by the concept emotion? do you know my dear shade that i can feed you the seratonin hormone and you will feel a little bit more happy? if you sniff cocaine it might make you artificially happy? huh?
do you get the point i intend to make? no? of course not! so let me tell a tale of the nervous system.
shade dear, what you call emotion is simply the effect of inbalance in hormonal secretion of the body. im sure your familiar with serotonin, dopamine amongst numerous more; are responsible for all thing you call emotions

how can God feel emotion when he doesn't have a body regulated by hormones? what mechanism triggers his anger/love/jealousy,etc?

"The place where they serve is a sketch and shadow of the heavenly sanctuary, just as Moses was warned by God as he was about to complete the tabernacle. For he says, "See that you make everything according to the design shown to you on the mountain."
- Hebrews 8:5

kkins25, I am sure you are aware that everything or earth is an image and likeness of what is in the Godhood. God doesnt need a physical body to feel the real and original emotion kkins25, is the point being made. OK?

kkins25:
you know, my mind has always had a mind of its own. now its telling me to ask you even though i do not intend to bother you much- that do spirits float, glide or walk in this universe of thiers? do angels have legs, or do they primarily make use of wings powered by chicken feathers suggesting angels evolved from birds probably.
does angel gabrael visit angel micheal in his home? do angels talk about 'life'? do they talk about back pains and cholera outbreak too?

They take on human form, as in appear looking human beings when making visitations

kkins25:
so tell me, which is the real governor amongst the two? those the body govern the spirit or does the spirit govern the body?
what makes you say humans have a spirit? does it have a mind of its own like my mind?

I have shed some light on this quite a few times, but time isnt an ally. I am already as it is, late in stepping out, so watch this space kkins25, I will revist this section, possibly later on today, like in the late PM

kkins25:
i am a lost soul who like the devil is trying to reconcile with daddy. kindly guide me to the right path. for years my spirit and i have searched for God but google isn't giving us what i want. my spirit has been serching using the less popular bing too.

You need a broken spirit in addition to a broken and contrite heart. When I make the revisit, you'll get a clearer picture of what all this means, so again I'll advise to watch this space kkkins25 I've got you bud, I have your back buddy.

kkins25:
couldnt there be a first cause in another dimension that God doesnt even know about
is he creating this spirits or is he diving himself into smaller fragments to sustatin life

Nah, sorry. Like it or lump it, God is Omniscient, remember

kkins25:
how can God see when he doesnt have eyes?

One doesnt need physical eyes to see all things now kkins25. C'mon, whats the matter with you man.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Was The Book Of Enoch Removed From The Bible? by MuttleyLaff: 5:52am On Oct 09, 2019

MuttleyLaff:
Talk to the hand

Smh.

Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus is coming soon. This thread is for faithful watchmen by MuttleyLaff: 5:47am On Oct 09, 2019*

MrPresident1:
The LORD thundered. That thunder is the trumpet.

The sound of the trumpet is the thunder

Stiffnecked John

johnw47:
™false prophet pre1

i see, thunder is trumpet, laughing

1Sa_2:10 The adversaries of the LORD shall be broken to pieces; out of heaven shall he thunder upon them: the LORD shall judge the ends of the earth; and he shall give strength unto his king, and exalt the horn of his anointed.

out of heaven shall He trumpet upon them, ha ha

thunder
רָעַם
râ‛am
raw-am'
A primitive root; to tumble, that is, be violently agitated; specifically to crash (of thunder); figuratively to irritate (with anger): - make to fret, roar, thunder, trouble.

Jdg_6:34 But the Spirit of the LORD came upon Gideon, and he blew a trumpet; and Abiezer was gathered after him.

the Spirit of the LORD blew a thunder, laugh

trumpet
שֹׁפָר שׁוֹפָר
shôphâr shôphâr
sho-far', sho-far'
in the original sense of incising; a cornet (as giving a clear sound) or curved horn: - cornet, trumpet.

really false prophet, you are wrong in everything

thunder/raam, is not trumpet/shopher

2Co_4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

MrPresident1:
Watch and pray

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EIArMbxOPU
Lol, trumpet sounding et al

Christianity Etc › Re: The Allegory In The Garden Of Eden Account Of The Fall Of Man By Reno Omokri by MuttleyLaff: 5:29am On Oct 09, 2019*

Magnoliaa:
This is hilarious.

See contradiction.

You claimed there's no Adam, Eve, God, Garden, Satan and then come around to say again, in your second paragraph, that there's Satan and he is God.

I liked how you eagle eye spotted the way the musicwriter comment came into conflict with each other

Magnoliaa:
But you know if you actually focus on God, you are focusing on yourself,
inward.

The Bible reveals things about man (you), so when you read more of it, study it more - it changes you. You become better. See yourself in a new light. See yourself as a child of God and your sense of self-worth and -esteem will be so 'high,' unshakable.

MuttleyLaff:
Then God said,
"Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness .
They will rule the fish of the sea, the birds of the sky, the livestock, all the earth,
and the creatures that crawl on the earth.
- Genesis 1:26

Man was created in the image of the Godhood, so Sarassin, in effect, Man is a visible representation of the impression of the Godhood. The likeness is continuum. Why is it continuum? It is continuum because Man, out of the box, was not made perfect, like God is. Man, was created and set on a journey to perfection

Man, is an innovation of the Godhood. Genesis 1:26, as regards to intent, tells everything, we need to know.

God looked at everything. Looked at all His creation and saw that the stage is set, so therefore declared, very good. We're good to go, we're ready for action. Let the action begin! Let's see man faithfully reflect or give a true picture of the Godhood

Trust me, if you manage to locate, a good vantage point, you quite easily could see it that way

You're a very graceful person.

Dont be surprised that you'll find that graceful people, someone like you, usually and/or actually come out with very interesting comments like yours above, and that about us humans, being the image of God and/or the Godhead, on the journey of becoming that exact likeness of God and the Godhood, through inward seeing self, in a new light, the Light of the world Himself.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Was The Book Of Enoch Removed From The Bible? by MuttleyLaff: 5:28am On Oct 09, 2019

nijabazaar:
It is not information overload, trust me, i am a programmer so I am used to looking at figures and long sentences...lol.

You dont really know how how freshen it makes one feel, knowing that someone is paying attention, prepared to doing the Berean, get hands dirty from shifting and lifting, look under the bonnet etcetera and ready to take in.

nijabazaar, John 8:32 says, "Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free." but obviously, if people are sticking to bad and false teachings, then the truth can't set people free and John 8:32 becomes pie in the sky

Proverbs 4:7-9, effectively talks about knowledge, understanding and wisdom, where knowledge is, know information, data and/or the real truth from the Bible, understanding, is having insight to that knowledge, that gives an "aha" moment and then wisdom, is the application of what you've come to know and understand. One can only grow and mature spiritually by increasing ones knowledge, understanding and wisdom. If one doesnt, then obviously lack of growth or development of the trio knowledge, understanding and wisdom, means one won’t know the truth and consequently, the truth then can’t one you free from the chains and shackle of ignorance.

nijabazaar:
Thank you. I like your perpective and the way you illuminate with ur brushes. The key to understanding is to keep a very open mind.

No. Thank you, nijabazaar, but I cant say the same to the banding together three musketeers, especially with their amazing and very nothing to write home about naive and narrow minded perspectives. They are not taking after the generation of people who are investigating things for themselves, but rather are behaving just like our fathers, who hook, line and sinker, unquestioningly believe everything the ~~media~~ organised church told and/or tells them about whats is and how it is "written" in the Bible.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Was The Book Of Enoch Removed From The Bible? by MuttleyLaff: 8:56pm On Oct 08, 2019*

Maamin:
My brother I see am..as usual. Too many words but no message or single truth in it.

If you want to hide information from someone like this guy et al, just put it in a post. They have trouble challenges with reading and understanding posts. They see and call them something like "... too many words but no message or single truth in it" or even have the cheek to call it "long Epistles." Smh. Eight months is long enough for bruises to get healed, I guess you've now come out of your self imposed extended winter hibernation for fresh bruises, after your sudden rapid AWOL exit (i.e. https://www.nairaland.com/5011271/said-angels-dont-sexual-feelings#75579172)

"The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and afterward as well, when the sons of God had ~~sexual~~ relations with the daughters of men. And they bore them children who became the mighty men of old, men of renown"
- Genesis 6:4 Berean Study Bible

The nephilims, were already on the earth in those days, meaning they already existed, before the sons of God began to have sexual relations with the daughters of men. The Bible in black and white doesnt not and cannot lie Maamin please.
↪ ➡ https://www.nairaland.com/5375336/nephilim-sons-god/6#82960951

Maamin, aside the glaring "korokoro, in your face" irrefutable evidence in Genesis 6:4 and the above quoted comment, fyi, it is only human beings who are made in the image of the Godhead and after the Godhead's likeness, not celestial beings and/or animals. Humans are what's called "sons of God", not animals and by extension, even not celestial beings also known as, angels too.

EMILO2STAY:
I think the guy is demented

"If we are ~~demented~~ "out of our mind," as some say, it is for God; if we are in our right mind, it is for you
(i.e. If it seems we are ~~demented~~ crazy, it is to bring glory to God. And if we are in our right minds, it is for your benefit)"
- 2 Corinthians 5:13

EMILO2STAY, highlight and strongly underline my following words, you will retract all what you've said, you actually will and especially in an ignominy and embarrassing way, eat your words, when you "eventuarry" have the blinkers fall off and you then get the epiphany, after I am done with you and the "Holy Grail" subject matter of who really the "sons of God" are.

Christianity Etc › Re: Nephilim And Sons Of God: Who Are They? by MuttleyLaff: 6:51pm On Oct 08, 2019*

Maamin:
Nephililms are not sons of God but the offsprings as a result of what transpired between the sons of God and daughters of men.

"The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and afterward as well, when the sons of God had ~~sexual~~ relations with the daughters of men. And they bore them children who became the mighty men of old, men of renown"
- Genesis 6:4 Berean Study Bible

The nephilims, were already on the earth in those days, meaning they already existed, before the sons of God began to have sexual relations with the daughters of men. The Bible in black and white doesnt not and cannot lie Maamin please.

Maamin:
Your too many words with no message is making you say things and generate stories that were never told. Watch it bro!

You will eat those words and search for me apologise. Mark my words and watch this space Ma'am

Maamin:
And for the scriptural truth ....sons of God in Genesis 6:1-2 are angels.

Actually, and for the scriptural truth ....sons of God in Genesis 6:1-2 et al, are humans, not and never angels Maamin

Maamin:
You can deny all you want but you can't change that. It is written and sealed!

"You must not add to or subtract from what I command you ..."
- Deuteronomy 4:2a

"So be careful to obey all the commands I give you.
You must not add anything to them or subtract anything from them."
- Deuteronomy 12:32

You want to deny the Bible isnt doctored, erhn, that it isnt tampered with hmm?.

Or you're admitting that you're ignorant of the truth, that at least an actual word, in the Book of Job, was interfered with, hmm? Interfered with, as in meaning, the word was changed. All Bible translation versions except for just only one, is a victim of this changing of the word. It is only one version I've found that the original word is retained and left unchanged.

Except someone wants to seal their fate, it literally is written, you must not add anything to or subtract anything from the Bible, but this word is and was changed, so thereafter draws off the scent to who really are the sons of God. 'Twas King, who said, the trust of the innocent is the liar's most useful tool. The devil is a liar. Smh

Crime › Re: Jonathan & Holiness Ikpere Sentenced In UK For Selling Skin-Whitening Products by MuttleyLaff: 12:38pm On Oct 08, 2019*

Commentor:
On a lighter note, hope they got a light sentence.

To think they once had a bright future.

pcguru1:
Going for a pun combo early in the afternoon ehn ? nice one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TDKaHENSbw
Yellow fever, you dey bleach ooo, you dey bleach, yeye fever, you dey bleach ooo, you dey bleach.

RIP "Abami Eda" Much respect, a prophet truly is not respected in his country and only in his home town and in his own house is a prophet without honour.

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Christianity Etc › Re: The Paranoia Of Christianity by MuttleyLaff: 9:33am On Oct 08, 2019

johnydon22:
Pity

MuttleyLaff:
Let those who fear any such speak for themselves

Christianity Etc › Re: The Paranoia Of Christianity by MuttleyLaff: 8:46am On Oct 08, 2019

frank317:
They fear everything... The devil and his fleets of demons, they fear cats, bats, owl, crying children, atheists, Muslims and even the so called God they worship.

Let those who fear any such speak for themselves

Christianity Etc › Re: What Would Have Happened To Adam If He Rejected Eve When She Disobeyed by MuttleyLaff: 7:44am On Oct 08, 2019

orisa37:
Righteousness would have begun from Adam.

orisa37:
If Adam had obeyed God, Emmanuel would not have come.

MuttleyLaff:
He would have fully passed the test, but unfortunately he didnt and rest is history.

What would have happened to Adam, is that, he would have gone again, under the knife and give up another rib, from where he'll be given another woman
There however is a twist, as in other unexpected/expected development, to what would have happened to Adam if he had rejected Eve when she disobeyed

Interlocutors' comments are 24/7 being monitored

Had it been that Adam survived the last hour, what would have happened, was that he would have thereafter been allowed to eat of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil (i.e. ToKG&E) and men will not be näked but men will still be clothed in righteousness

Christianity Etc › Re: What Would Have Happened To Adam If He Rejected Eve When She Disobeyed by MuttleyLaff: 7:32am On Oct 08, 2019

orisa37:
"Emmanu nfagi nitori Adamu ti jẹso e". meaning the journey of millions of years till now would not have been necessary if Adam had simply obeyed God's Instructions.

MuttleyLaff:
The fruit would have "eventuarry" be eaten, only if they had sit it out and managed the last hour it was eaten, then we would have had all knowledge at our finger tips and NOT be doing all these second guesses and groping blindly in the dark.

"And Jesus said to her,
“Woman, what does this have to do with me? My hour has not yet come.”"
- John 2:4

Adam became a victim of blind loyalty. I also think, Adam was a victim of an already terribly wrong chivalry, gone further pear-shaped wrong. Adam like Jesus in John 2:4 above did, should have just told the woman, Eve, that the hour has not come and then refuse to eat, just to sit the remaining last hour out.

Christianity Etc › Re: Nephilim And Sons Of God: Who Are They? by MuttleyLaff: 7:12am On Oct 08, 2019

EMILO2STAY:
Its a pity you either lack understanding or your just pretending the burden of proof lies with me.

Its a pity you are an ignoranus because I certainly dont think, talkless pretend the burden of proof lies with you. All I asked and insisted on, is for the record, that you to provide proof beyond reasonable doubt and with chapters and verses proving the sons of God to be angels, then after that, we can together go on the journey to show how "sons of God" in scripture has been and always being humans and never celestial beings aka angel but you refused

EMILO2STAY:
Oga i have done my part i am still waiting for you to do yours ever since we started this debate.

Oga, you know what my terms and conditions are. Take it or live it

EMILO2STAY:
Pls and pls stop typing many words, just go straight to the point.

Just go straight to the point? It doesnt work like that, EMILO2STAY.

Somebody like me, who knows the one thing, on the "sons of God" that you don't know about, didnt get to know about it, from just go straight to the point.

EMILO2STAY, never treat anyone as unworthy of serious consideration because you never know what true knowledge about the "Holy Grail" meaning of the "sons of God" information you want to know, they might be holding in

EMILO2STAY:
If you mention me again without putting up the so called proof you have i will not indulge you again on this.

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/HarmoniousAcrobaticAtlasmoth-size_restricted.gif

Like, as if I care, if you indulge or dont indulge. Listen, EMILO2STAY, I enjoy being alone, my soul is at peace in the silence. It's better to walk alone, than with a crowd going in the wrong direction.

EMILO2STAY, its your loss because I know what "Holy Grail," I bring to the table, so trust me when and/or if I say, I am not afraid to eat alone.

Christianity Etc › Re: What Would Have Happened To Adam If He Rejected Eve When She Disobeyed by MuttleyLaff: 7:11am On Oct 08, 2019

lightblazingnow:
No correct answer yet. We are waiting

No kpekus. No tasting the honeypot. He'll really be in the doghouse or end up sleeping on the couch. Lol, that the punishment for dudes when they fall out of favour with their missus.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Paranoia Of Christianity by MuttleyLaff: 7:11am On Oct 08, 2019

Image123:
i want to die and go to heaven, but i don't want to kill myself. You don't know that do you?

We've already cleared this by earlier with saying that one's life is the property of God and it is a gift. Though, death is a universal truth that can never be defied, still life is to be perpetuated for as long as it possibly can be. You keep alive, stay alive, keep on going, keep in existence, preserve yourself. Life is for enjoying the moment, not hating life. In spite of whatever and whether one likes life or not, you don't, if it can be helped, just like that, destroy it, by killing oneself.

Image123, you said, you want to die and go to heaven, erhn? You do know that after the honeymoon in heaven, everyone is coming back to earth, hmm?

Image123:
i die daily, iyẹn nkọ

Whether anyone likes it or not, Image123, by divine law design and/or cosmic plan, we die daily, "iyẹn, ti di, dandan"
Death? Smh. Is it the apoptosis or necrosis one. Or the myriads of other deaths, like for example, spiritual death, physical death or even "la petite mort" thats french, meaning, the very enjoyable orgasmic, little death.

Image123, on a serious note, "feel like dying" really, is the stuff, temporary madness, gone too far, is made of.

Whenever one nurses "feel like dying" thoughts, this is an extremely foolish way to behave in response to whatever the particular challenging situation is and if dwell on too long or long enough, one might go too far, reach the point of no return, literally, and actually go about commit the suicide

Image123:
This is an unfair thing to say. i answered you clearly by referring to Paul who was a christian. Samson was not a christian, neither did he have the great opportunities that we have. He was a Nazarite, yes. Maybe in practice of Judaism, yes. But a christian?

What has being a christian got to do here and particularly to do with the questions: Was Samson foolish? Did Samson end his life cheaply?

Image123:
Christianity began about 2020 years ago sir.
While i have great respect for Samson, being a judge of Israel and a spectacular hero of faith, doing things yet to be done till date

I am not bothered with if Christianity began about 2020 years ago sir or not, my interest is that, Samson fought the good fight, finished the race and kept the faith and so, Samson, "the boy done good" made it into the Hebrews 11 Hall of Fame heroes of faith.

Image123:
Yet it will be said that he made a foolish decision.

The Death of Samson

"²³The Philistine kings met together to celebrate and offer a great sacrifice to their god Dagon. They sang, “Our god has given us victory over our enemy Samson!”
²⁴They were enjoying themselves, and so they said, “Call Samson, and let's make him entertain us!” When they brought Samson out of the prison, they made him entertain them and made him stand between the columns.
²⁵When the people saw him, they sang praise to their god: “Our god has given us victory over our enemy, who devastated our land and killed so many of us!”
²⁶Samson said to the boy who was leading him by the hand, “Let me touch the columns that hold up the building. I want to lean on them.”
²⁷The building was crowded with men and women. All five Philistine kings were there, and there were about three thousand men and women on the roof, watching Samson entertain them.
²⁸Then Samson prayed, “Sovereign Lord, please remember me; please, God, give me my strength just this one time more, so that with this one blow I can get even with the Philistines for putting out my two eyes.”
²⁹So Samson took hold of the two middle columns holding up the building. Putting one hand on each column, he pushed against them
³⁰and shouted, “Let me die with the Philistines!” He pushed with all his might, and the building fell down on the five kings and everyone else. Samson killed more people at his death than he had killed during his life"
- Judges 16:28

Image123, it is interesting to read you say: "Yes, it will be said that he made a foolish decision." when God, that Samson conversed his intent to, that he prayed to about his plan of vengeance to be successful and he die, did not disregard his wish, but actually, without questioning or objecting to the foolish decision, granted his wish.

Image123, my point in this our healthy and meaningful discourse, is that, considering the situation Samson was in, the overall circumstances and full facts of the matter, maybe foolish decisions, like Samson's et al, are permissible and/or tolerated by God. Temper justice with mercy things sir?.

Image123:
He did not need to die with the Philistines. The same God that gave him extraordinary powers could have preserved him.

Yeah right. You can talk like this, if you had put on Samson's shoes, if you had put your foot in Samson's shoe and walked a mile in it.

Christianity Etc › Re: What Would Have Happened To Adam If He Rejected Eve When She Disobeyed by MuttleyLaff: 8:51am On Oct 07, 2019

orisa37:
Adam didn't eat.
He rejected Eve and her offer outrightly.

"The woman was convinced. She saw that the tree was beautiful and its fruit looked delicious, and she wanted the wisdom it would give her. So she took some of the fruit and ate it. Then she gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it, too."
- Genesis 3:6

orisa37:
Adam remained obedient & Righteous. Jesus would not have been born. Mary would have replaced Eve in the beginning & for Righteousness sake.

and where from will Mary come to replace Eve, if not from another operation under local anaesthetic to remove a rib to create another woman for Adam

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Was The Book Of Enoch Removed From The Bible? by MuttleyLaff: 8:35am On Oct 07, 2019

nijabazaar, the "sons of God" are human beings, have always been human beings and remains being only human beings. Not one moment have they ever being angels. Not in the book of Job, not anywhere else.

Christianity Etc › Re: Nephilim And Sons Of God: Who Are They? by MuttleyLaff: 8:28am On Oct 07, 2019

Talk to the hand angry

Christianity Etc › Re: God Created Man To Praise Him by MuttleyLaff: 8:24am On Oct 07, 2019

johnydon22:
1. It is hilarious that human character flaws for self praise and narcissism is being used to draw a comparative excuse for that of God. It's a pity.

It is one thing for God to be worthy of praise and another for the sole purpose he created humans is to feed him this praise. Betrays a severe emotional emptiness, insecurity, vulnerability and narcissism.

For a being that supposedly created the cosmos, yea, he is just so small and petty and really pitiful in this sense.

2. It is a remarkable Irony still that I have none of those things you listed out.

No abstract paintings on my walls, No ornaments of different kinds on my table, no picture frames hanging around.

Even if I did, how do you feel drawing a comparison between a human (flawed flesh and blood, tiny creature on earth) and God (Supposed perfect being, all powerful creator of everything)?

I'm flattered. Thank you

In all modesty, you are to a certain degree, an accomplished author, please tell what is the purpose of the colourful cover of your creative writing books, huh? Why not issue it bland and nondescript, hmm?

I don't feel anything, other than marvel, give honour, glory and honour to God, the Perfect being, All Powerful Creator of everything. There is nothing hilarious nor pitiful in doing any of that.

Christianity Etc › Re: Nephilim And Sons Of God: Who Are They? by MuttleyLaff: 8:02am On Oct 07, 2019

Maamin:
I remember sometime last year where I discussed this very issue of sons of God with MuttleyLaff in a different thread. With all evidence from Genesis 6:2 , Job 1:6-8, Job 2:1-2, Jude , 2 Peter ..and Even BOOK Of Enoch. I think it's only pride and self indoctrination that will make one to claim that the sons of God are not angels.

MuttleyLaff:
See my comment below

"To an ill-informed and unprejudiced mind, the words, as they stand in Genesis 6:4, states, as clear as day, that the Nephilim, who were on the earth in those days, as existing, before the sons of God began to go into the daughters of men. It didnt even say marry or know them, as Adam and others intimately knew their wives, but says: "the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men." Bluntly put, the "sons of God" wham! bam! thank you ma'am! fairked the "daughters of men" literally."
- by MuttleyLaff: 8:38am On Feb 12 2019

The above inverted commas is what you're asking a Hebrew explanation from. Are you sure I mentioned anything about Hebrew in my comment there, hmm?

I will reply to your other other next post and will get to k.kins25 too asap

Smh, lol, my long lost very good "customer mi, daada ni". It is true that sometime last year around September, if I recall correctly and early this year February, I did, at least that twice, engage you, on the subject matter of "sons of God" mistaken for angels, Nephilims etcetera.

On each of those two occasions, you were blindly and poorly arguing that angels have sexual desires. You were mistaking Nephilims in Genesis 6:2-4 and elsewhere, like in the book of Job, to be angels. You did your disappearing AWOL act after trying to obfuscate the topic with bringing in the witch of Endor and Prophet Samuel's dead spirit. Smh

I informed you then that angels are celestial beings, who only take on appearance of human forms when on assignment from God. Except being on official assignment, celestial beings never take on form that look or resembles human beings. I further mentioned that, it is part of the reasons, why no one has ever seen physically Satan or physically seen a demon. Maamin, should in case you've forgotten. I expressly repeat here again for your attention that, only human beings are given the mandate to procreate, and never celestial beings, also known as, angels are granted that privilege

Maamin, Maamin, Maamin, how many times did I call? Lol, nvm. Read the last sentence in your comment and please tell me if its not a reflection of you. Fyi, I am conversing with nijabazaar at the moment on this same subject matter, why not keep your eyes and ears open, as you will learn something from my interaction with him. Lol.

None of you guys have the chutzpah. Nine out of ten of y'all, can't even swallow, stomach and retain my tough and hard good bullshits, let alone stand head-to-head with me on this subject matter. See, I gave the go-ahead to shine like a star to "you-know-who", told "you-know-who" to go open a thread, send me an invite notification to come join and trash out the genuineness or not, of the Book of Enoch together, but did "you-know-who" create the thread and be willing to go toe-to-toe with me on it?. Of course not, "you-know-who" couldn't and wouldnt, because "you-know-who" developed stage fright from knowing what will come of it, it will be the death and end of the truth, diluted with lies, "you-know-who" learned and have enjoyed to believe.

Maamin, truth is more valuable if it takes you a few years to find it. Even if you know a thousand things, ask the man, somebody like me, who knows the one thing on the "sons of God" you don't know about. Never underestimate someone because you never know what true knowledge about the "Holy Grail" meaning of the "sons of God" information, they might be holding in

Now watch and learn Maamin. Take it, as an unexpected learning opportunity and thank nijabazaar later for it.
https://www.nairaland.com/5450889/why-book-enoch-removed-bible/1#82913164

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Was The Book Of Enoch Removed From The Bible? by MuttleyLaff: 8:00am On Oct 07, 2019

Enoch Chapter 1 v 9;

And behold! He comes with ten thousand of His holy ones (saints) in order to execute judgment on all, to destroy all the ungodly (wicked ones), and to convict all flesh of their works of all the works of their ungodliness which they have ungodly committed, and of all the hard things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him.

Jude 1 v 14 - 15;
14 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,
15 To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.

nijabazaar:
Hmmmmm

nijabazaar, never make the mistake of reading Bible verses in isolation. Context is King. If you dont contextually read Bible verses, then it means you're are reading biblical text out of context, and certainly will end up interpreting it under pretext. When people quote a bible text out of context, they are nine times out of ten, quoting it under pretext. As I've earlier said context is king, but if you read a text in isolation, my friend then, you're indulging in pretext and pretending yourself in getting understanding of the narrative, when you're not, like some others are doing all over this thread.

Of course, there is a similarity between 1 Enoch 1:9 and Jude 1:14-15. nijabazaar, if you're in the know, there isnt anything difficult to understand or impossible to explain about 1 Enoch 1:9.

Fyi, 1 Enoch 1:9 is a subset of 1 Enoch 1:1-9, which the author of the Book of Enoch, lifted off a part from Deuteronomy 33:2 and then embellished or dressed it up to make 1 Enoch 1:9, so the quote seen in 1 Enoch 1:9, was originally of course written by Moses, and no Enoch, not the fictitious one or real one

Now before going back to the matter of context is king and this in relation to Jude 1:14-15, fyi Jude 1:14, in the original bible text never said or used the words "prophesied of these". The correct rendering of what Jude wrote in Jude 1:14 is "prophesied to these" This is where context shows to be king. Who is Jude saying the fictitious Enoch prophesied to?. Why is Jude using the fictitious Enoch's words, like as if, he is to mocking some people, he is against with using them, hmm? Well here is where context is king comes into useful play, when you contextually read, starting from as far backwards as Jude 1:8-13, you will see who Jude was using Jude 1:14-15 to target and address. He turned the table on those false teachers and used in the same false book they believe in to damn them with readings from the book they are familiar with and believe in.

nijabazaar, I can write a book and more, further explaining the "mystery" between the similarity between 1 Enoch 1:9 and Jude 1:14-15, but I think so far will suffice, unless you reach out seeking more illumination about them, and besides, time isnt an ally or it will just be information overload, which I suspect, it already looks to be just that

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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Was The Book Of Enoch Removed From The Bible? by MuttleyLaff: 8:00am On Oct 07, 2019*

nijabazaar:
Going by ur arguments...

Let me correct you. I dont do arguments sir. I only discuss what I know to be facts, if I am discussing opinions, I beforehand do announce I am or have advanced one

nijabazaar:
If the angels were not the sons of God, who were the sons of God that came down to sleep with the earthly women then?

Now that I have corrected your wrong perspective of me and have put the record straight, it is safe to say to you that the sons of God that came down to sleep with the earthly women then, were human beings, just as same as you and I

nijabazaar:
Another branch of beings from the cosmos?

Oh, c'mon now, stop being all of a sudden, you developed a funny bone and gone comical on me. Are you the 21st century Enoch? Maybe you're getting ready in authoring a 21st Book of Enoch version, hmm?

nijabazaar:
Why they specifically called sons of God if they werent angels?

Why is this misunderstanding always happening? nijabazaar, please can you provide proof beyond reasonable doubt and supporting with chapters and verses proving where or when the Bible showed that the sons of God are angels

nijabazaar:
Can you clarify?

Yes, I can clarify, but I wouldnt be doing the heavy liftings without you too, yourself raising not so much of a little finger, meaning you have to be prepared and ready to get your hands dirty, be ready and quick to give answers to questions asked you etcetera

nijabazaar:
There is a possibility that the Book of Enoch might be the Dan Brown of the first Century....but there is no concrete proof, at least you did not present one.

nijabazaar, I am now used to guys, like you've just done with this comment, who always use and play the "there is no concrete proof, at least you did not present one" card.

I usually do not oblige, because they're trying to force a disclosure, without having proved themselves and seen to be worthy enough to have that information exchange, but I am making an exception with you nijabazaar

nijabazaar, now in order that you dont charge me of not responding to your "... but there is no concrete proof, at least you did not present one" accusation, let me show you a few proofs that the book of Enoch, is a first century bestseller fantansy/fiction pack book.

1/ "... as it is written in the book of the law of Moses," - Joshua 8:31
2/ "... behold, it is written in the book of Jasher," - 2 Samuel 1:18
3/ "... as it is written in the law of Moses" - 2 Chronicles 23:18
4/ "... as it is written in the law of the LORD." - 2 Chronicles 31:3
5/ "... as it is written in the book of Moses" - 2 Chronicles 35:12
6/ "... as it is written in the book of this covenant," - 2 Kings 23:21
7/ "... as it is written in the law of Moses the man of God..." - Ezra 3:2
8/ "... as it is written in the law" - Nehemiah 10:36

1/ ".. But He answered and said, It is written," - Matthew 4:4
2/ "... Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God." - Matthew 4:7
3/ "... Then saith Jesus unto them, All ye shall be offended because of me this night: for it is written, I will smite the shepherd, and the sheep of the flock shall be scattered abroad." - Matthew 26:31
4/ ""For," said Peter, "it is written in the Book of Psalms: "'May his place be deserted; let there be no one to dwell in it,' and, "'May another take his place of leadership." - Acts 1:20
5/ " Paul replied, “Brothers, I did not realize that he was the high priest; for it is written: ‘Do not speak evil about the ruler of your people" - Acts 23:5
6/ "Rather, as it is written: “No eye has seen, no ear has heard, no heart has imagined, what God has prepared for those who love Him.”" - 1 Corinthians 2:9
7/ "Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?" - John 10:34
8/ "As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated." - Romans 9:13
9/ "Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God." - Hebrews 10:7
10/ "Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy." - 1 Peter 1:16

The first, one to eight above, is part of the remarkable proof, that whenever you're reading about texts or books of undisputed origin and not something like the nature of the Book of Enoch, you'll find the Bible or the prophets in the Old Testament making the connection with saying like "as it is written". Fraudulent books like the book of Enoch is deprived of this.

Equally in New Testament (i.e. the other one to ten listing) with the Johannine, Pauline or Petrine letters and even Jesus Christ too, you'll find in their letters and/or when discussing texts or books of undisputed origin and not something like the nature of the Book of Enoch, again use the familiar phrase or similar "as it is written".

nijabazaar, Jude nor Peter NEVER used "as it is written" when paraphrasing the Book of Enoch because it is a popular well known best selling fantansy/fiction book that was well circulated up to and around the first century. The Bible doesn't generally quote books of questionable and/or profane sources, like the Book of Enoch is, this is why the Bible too, never has "as it is written" or "... it is written" as a form of certification and accreditation of the book anywhere in the Bible. The book was never treated as being inspired by God and why so it wasnt ever authoritatively used or referenced.

nijabazaar:
You pointed to sections in the book of Jude but then Jude could also be referring to other false fiction or creative writers other than The Book of Enoch.

The Enoch featured in the Book of Enoch, is not the same Enoch mentioned in Genesis, Luke and Hebrews. How can we know this I hear you, ask under your breath, it is because no mention of Enoch in the entirety of the "The Book of Enoch" was made about him, in reference to being a man of faith (i.e. like as done with Hebrews 11:5) nor is there any reference to his genealogy (i.e. like as done in Luke 3:37), instead the book, obviously a work of fiction, made a complete glaring birth position order mistake when compared and contrasted with the two real Enoch of the Bible birth order position in their genealogies.

nijabazaar smh, may I have your attention, please? May I have your attention, please? Will the real ~~Slim Shady~~ Enoch please stand up?
I repeat, will the real ~~Slim Shady~~ Enoch please stand up? We're gonna have a problem here. Y'all act like you never know ... Lol, smh.

nijabazaar:
I am not obstinate, just trying to get more precise logic, buttressing ur argument up there, from you.

I know you arent playing difficult and this is why I felt inclined to intimate you with the "as it is written" above persuasion and to explain that Peter and Jude, only used the book of Enoch as source material and not in any shape or form endorsed it as scripture that is God-breathed.

nijabazaar:
I like this discussion

I love healthy, matured, meaningful, informative, educative and edifying discussions too.

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Christianity Etc › Re: When I Come In My Glory, I Shall Reward Every Man According To His Works - Jesus by MuttleyLaff: 2:17am On Oct 07, 2019

budaatum:
Don't you make out I spreed everyone muttley.
You deserve it when you refuse to use your brain.

Face palm. Shm. Here we go again

Christianity Etc › Re: God Created Man To Praise Him by MuttleyLaff: 1:42am On Oct 07, 2019

johnydon22:
It is one thing to be appreciative of your parents and another for that to be the reason your parents had you.

Refer to the above.

To make things sorely to feed your own need for praise and massage such fragile narcissistic ego betrays a lot of insecurity and severe emotional problem.

You paint God as one that is infinitely petty, has a serious emotional problem, narcissistic, egomaniac and probably needs help.

Correct. I have no reason to be.

Above, you said it is obvious I'm not upset with God, here you are accusing me of God hating.

You have to make up your mind.

It is one thing to love your God and another to assert the reason why you were created is to provide emotional succor through constant praise to a seemingly emotionally fragile being.

That's super weird.

Seems you are just replying some argument in your head and not mine.

"Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power:
for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created."
- Revelation 4:11

johnydon22, I am sure you do the same and/or similar, as like God, in Revelation 4:11 above. Your living room with canvas art abstract wall hangings, your window sills decorated with different kind of ornaments and your tables covered with cherished moments picture frames? What are they all doing, whats their purpose, huh?

Christianity Etc › Re: Thus Saith The Lord by MuttleyLaff: 1:22am On Oct 07, 2019

budaatum:
Those ignorant of the power of herbs call it vegetable.

Lol, "ọmọde, oo mọ ogun, oun npe lẹfọ" You'll live long enough to come out with another proverbial like this

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