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orisa37:
Adam would still have remained a Man and Son of God.

budaatum:
Be short and to the point like you've worked to be here when you disagree with me please.

budaatum:
Haba! And you were doing ever so well up to there!
Why is there a book of works if works do not count?

budaatum:
From my own reading of Rev20, they will first check your name is in the Book of Works and if found there, check that it is also in the Book of Life, and "Anyone whose name was not found written in the book of life was thrown into the lake of fire".

Image123:
Wanting to die is different from killing yourself sir.

Image123:
An embarrassing situation, a bad result can make anyone "feel like dying".

Image123:
Not all those people will be foolish enough to end it cheaply.

budaatum:
[s]I somehow doubt Shepherd would stoop so low to play your enemies enemy is your friend with you but one can be surprised.[/s]
Go on. I dare you! blah blah blah muttley.

Image123:
Thinking suicide is a temptation. Falling for it is a low which is the usual escape route for atheist. Paul did not think suicide, he thought heaven. Muttley. Suicide and heaven are two lines that will not meet.
BTW, the atheist position is worse than temporary madness. It is 247 folly, little wonder they easily commit suicide.

Image123:
No true Christian will commit suicide. That someone is named Michael or goes to church doesn't make him a Christian. There are many atheist bearing Chukwu and Oluwa whatever. We have many real atheists full of depression and committing suicide almost as a pastime.

Edybleketara:
Denying your fellow Christians just to prove a stupid point. Really pathetic.

mabea:
Not defending the uncouth fellow though but you are too judgmental

lightblazingnow:
Common guys win this trip

EMILO2STAY:
you still get mouth. I gave you scriptures proving the sons of God to be angels. Were is your own proof that those sons of God mentioned in genesis and job were not angels but mortal men? Were is your proof?!!!!??. I have given you proof beyond reasonable doubt. the ball is in your court, it is time for you to play. But instead you keep ranting carlessly. Again I said were is your proof. Bring it on am waiting.

paxonel:
I'm not making excuse, I'm only saying what would possibly happened in that kinda condition which most people will not be able to avoid.

paxonel:
very true!
he wasn't deceived, yet he was not thinking straight because of Eve.
At the end, he was blaming God for giving him Eve rather than taking responsibility of his mistake.
He could not possibly stand a chance.
that is the point.
very true

paxonel:
the bible recorded that the moment Adam saw Eve, he declared this is the flesh of my flesh and bone of my bone.

paxonel:
Obviously, he loved what he saw and they fell in love.
Have you ever fall in love before?
It will make you not to think straight, infact, you will be dedicated to impress the girl and possibly do anything for her.

paxonel:
So if Eve asked him to taste a fruit that opened her eyes and not killed her as God told them, what do you expect Adam to do at that point when he was grossly in love?

paxonel:
He will never think straight

jesusjnr:
Everything would have yet been perfect.

MuttleyLaff:
"The LORD said,
"I did not send these prophets, but even so they jesusjnr went.
I did not give them any self-proclaimed prophet message,
but still they jesusjnr spoke in my name."
- Jeremiah 23:21

[img]https://s0/images/MuttleyLaffsipsTea.gif[/img]
The sipping tea moment look,
when you want to say:
"Lukeastew, wasnt I warning you"

MuttleyLaff:
You have no iota Spirit of God in you jesusjnr, dont deceive yourself. You've proven, time after time, that you have a dustbin in your chest and not a heart for the Spirit of God to dwell in.

You've just had one demon killed in you jesusjnr, and you have to worry about the plenty other demons more still frolicking inside you.

As I on previous occasions have said, when the devil, hopefully by some stroke of fate, has finally had enough of you or when the devil's gone on tea break, I hope and pray you this poor tormented false prophet jesusjnr aka Apostle EnthronedbyGod MIA, gets a break and get lucky because the only way you can and will escape the journey enroute to the lake of fire, last bus stop, hell, is only, if you continue to repent, continue to recant, as in, say you no longer hold contrary opinion(s) or belief(s), especially one known to be heretical, like this Koran one and/or continue to change for the good and better.

Imagine that all that would have been needed for the jesusjnr forces of evil to have succeeded, is for enough sensible people to have remained silent and turn off the heat on him

jesusjnr:
Thanks bro.

They're the least of my worries to be honest with you, for many of them are on their way to hell, yet they're worried about someone who has the Spirit of God upon him.

Thanks for the suggestion, I didn't even think of that although I had either cancelled, modified the content.

God bless.

lightblazingnow:
Noted and notes are being taken.. haven't gotten the original answer. It's a sponsorship. You never know what might just come your way

paxonel:
Actually, there was no way Adam could have rejected Eve as they were already one in the mind.

MuttleyLaff:
"And so I tell you, every kind of sin and slander can be forgiven,
but blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven."
- Matthew 12:31

"²⁸jesusjnr I tell you the truth , all sin and blasphemy can be forgiven,
²⁹but anyone who blasphemes the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven.
This is a sin with eternal consequences."
- Mark 3:28

jesusjnr did you hear gobuchinny hmm? jesusjnr, you have slandered, you on record, have made false spoken statements to damage the reputation of Apostle Paul. jesusjnr, you have offended the Holy Spirit. jesusjnr, you have have rubbished the work of the Holy Spirit. jesusjnr you have blasphemed against the Holy Spirit and have recently being read, speaking sacrilegiously about God.

There is light at the end of your tunnel, but what kind of light is this light jesusjnr?
Is it a light from a TGV, as in, a high-speed fast moving train or is it, a light beacon, a ray of hope for you?

jesusjnr:
Do you offend and work Iniquity?

CodeTemplar:
Iniquity includes the perversion of God's word also. Any man who says some part of the Holy Spirit inspired scriptures are erroneous is a worker of iniquity. Great iniquity.

lightblazingnow:
The best answers wins a scholarship to study the course of your choice.
This thread is being monitored.

Blakjewelry:
simple. women eyes for open while men for still dey näked.

Shepherd00:
Mr bros, the tree of knowledge of good and evil symbolizes the belief that Intelligence, knowledge and Wisdom comes from ourselves. When Man begins to see himself as the originator of his Wisdom and knowledge, he won't have any need to depend on God. He becomes God.

That's what satan meant when he told them, "Your eyes shall be opened and you shall be like God".

Meaning, you shall no longer need God for you wld become God looking inward instead of outward.
Depending on the wisdom claiming it's yours. Telling yourself that all you achieved is by your power. Taking the glory for yourself. Praising yourself for all you do. Probably even telling yourself that you gave yourself life and health.

Be Careful of any philosophy which tells you to look inward. believe in yourself. Believe in your abilities. That's is the devil telling you exactly what he told Eve.

nijabazaar:
I ve got my hands on the Complete Books. Thanks to the linls yall sent.
I am currently hook on the topic of the Nephilim. I am trying to understand this.

nijabazaar:
Perphaps, @Riyadgoddess, @ỌKCornel, you can help shed light on this. If the Watchers, those that came down to sleep with earthly women and those that taught the early earth inhabitants things like iron forging and stuff, were banished from heaven by God....my question is....where they cast into Lucifer's domain or somewhere else?

Secondly, Is there a possiblity of such rebellion in heaven again, how many must have occurred prior or after that of the Watchers? I thought that after the rebeliion by Lucifer (that is if it is the first), their punishment would have taught the heavenly beings a lesson of sorts.

Is God so democratic, that he allows these angels to rebel at their whim deems fit?

What made Enoch so special that God revealed stuff to him?

MuttleyLaff:
[img]https://s3/images/EnochMuttleyLaff.jpg[/img]

budäatum, a mere read of the above and especially taking notice of the red underlines should enlighten you, perhaps

budäatum, please when discussing the genuineness of the Book of Enoch, please learn to quote from the Bible and reference the scripture directly, as opposed to quickly finding and taking solace in this accursed Book of Enoch

Also please stop this prooftexting bad habit you've taken a shine to and employed to use on this thread

¹And then Michael, Uriel, Raphael, and Gabriel looked down from heaven and saw much blood being shed upon the earth, and all lawlessness being wrought upon the earth.
². And they said one to another: 'The earth made without inhabitant cries the voice of their crying up to the gates of heaven.
³ And now to you, the holy ones of heaven, the souls of men make their suit, saying, "Bring our cause before the Most High.
⁴. And they said to the Lord of the ages: 'Lord of lords, God of gods, King of kings,〈and God of the ages〉, the throne of Thy glory (standeth) unto all the generations of the ages, and Thy name holy and glorious and blessed unto all the ages!
⁵. Thou hast made all things, and power over all things hast Thou: and all things are naked and open in Thy sight, and Thou seest all things, and nothing can hide itself from Thee.
⁶. Thou seest what Azazel hath done, who hath taught all unrighteousness on earth and revealed the eternal secrets which were (preserved) in heaven, which men were striving to learn:
⁷. And Semjaza, to whom Thou hast given authority to bear rule over his associates.
⁸. And they have gone to the daughters of men upon the earth, and have slept with the women, and have defiled themselves, and revealed to them all kinds of sins.
⁹. And the women have borne giants, and the whole earth has thereby been filled with blood and unrighteousness.
¹⁰. And now, behold, the souls of those who have died are crying and making their suit to the gates of heaven, and their lamentations have ascended: and cannot cease because of the lawless deeds which are wrought on the earth.
¹¹. And Thou knowest all things before they come to pass, and Thou seest these things and Thou dost suffer them, and Thou dost not say to us what we are to do to them in regard to these
- Book of Enoch 9:1-11

². And behold, the names of those Angels: – The first of them is Semjaza, and the second Artaqifa, and the third Armen, and the fourth Kokabiel, and the fifth Turiel, and the sixth Ramiel, and the seventh Daniel, and the eighth Nuqael, and the ninth Baraqiel, and the tenth Azazel, and the eleventh Armaros, the twelfth Batriel, the thirteenth Basasael, the fourteenth Ananel, the fifteenth Turiel, the sixteenth Samsiel, the seventeenth Yetarel, the eighteenth Tumiel, the nineteenth Turiel, the twentieth Rumiel, the twenty-first Azazel.
³. And these are the chiefs of their Angels, and the names of the leaders of hundreds, and their leaders of fifties, and their leaders of tens.
⁴. The name of the first is Yequn; this is the one who led astray all the children of the Holy Angels, and he brought them down onto the dry ground, and led them astray through the daughters of men.
⁵. And the name of the second is Asbeel; this one suggested an evil plan to the children of the Holy Angels, and led them astray, so that they corrupted their bodies with the daughters of men.
⁶. And the name of the third is Gadreel; this is the one that showed all the deadly blows to the sons of men. And he led astray Eve. And he showed the weapons of death to the children of men, the shield and the breastplate, and the sword for slaughter, and all the weapons of death to the sons of men.
⁷. And from his hand they have gone out against those who dwell the dry ground from that time and forever and ever.
⁸. And the name of the fourth is Penemue; this one showed the sons of men the bitter and the sweet and showed them all the secrets of their wisdom.
⁹. He taught men the art of writing with ink and paper, and through this many have gone astray, from eternity to eternity, and to this day.
¹⁰. For men were not created for this, that they should confirm their faith like this, with pen and ink.
- Book of Enoch 69:2-10

kkins25:
Who can challenge the metatron of God himself?

kkins25:
Surely you hold all understanding hidden to us "common sons of God".

kkins25:
Do burden me with how the miracle of Jesus Christ came about.

kkins25:
What makes jesus "gene" different?

kkins25:
Does thou proclaim that jesus genetic material would differ scientifically from those of common man?

kkins25:
If I carried out a PCR analysis on Jesus Christ and compare his dna with dat of his mother using BLAST- I would find considerable, mind boggling Dna?

kkins25:
And how then did this 'foreign' Dna get attached to Jesus?

kkins25:
Considering your comments on affairs between angels and humanity, and miracle are simply a novel idea...

kkins25:
... can humanity now carry out this miracle with respect to you definition of miracle?

budaatum:
muttley,

When you do bother to answer it, hola buda

budaatum:
Sorry muttley, but there's no way I'm digging through that for the answer to the simple question I asked.

When you do bother to answer it, hola buda.

budaatum:
This thread shows how some will insist that their own belief is the only correct opinion out of all the opinions that may possibly exist on a subject.

For those who may learn, as opposed to those who's desire is to believe, wiki has compiled various opinions on Nephilim for your consideration.

budaatum:
I think you just talk for the fun of talking and think everyone has the time to waste on your yadayada!

budaatum:
So, you accept that Jude was refering to something in a book we generally call the Book of Enoch, of which a current best as is book I posted here and in which is written "The words of the blessing of Enoch, wherewith he blessed the elect ⌈⌈and⌉⌉ righteous, who will be living in the day of tribulation, when all the wicked ⌈⌈and godless⌉⌉ are to be removed", of which you can read up on its history here.

budaatum:
One simple question for you muttley. Just so we know you are using your brain today and are capable of intelligent discourse

budaatum:
What was Jude saying, and is it what I said below or not?

MuttleyLaff:
The others, the Book of Enoch braggers shy away, only you, show you've got balls, to head on come, and want to discuss the genuineness or not, of the Book of Enoch. Well done.

[s]I take back all the past day or two spat I've had with you. Forgive me, if you've felt offended.[/s]

¹And then Michael, Uriel, Raphael, and Gabriel looked down from heaven and saw much blood being shed upon the earth, and all lawlessness being wrought upon the earth.
². And they said one to another: 'The earth made without inhabitant cries the voice of their crying up to the gates of heaven.
³ And now to you, the holy ones of heaven, the souls of men make their suit, saying, "Bring our cause before the Most High.
⁴. And they said to the Lord of the ages: 'Lord of lords, God of gods, King of kings,〈and God of the ages〉, the throne of Thy glory (standeth) unto all the generations of the ages, and Thy name holy and glorious and blessed unto all the ages!
⁵. Thou hast made all things, and power over all things hast Thou: and all things are naked and open in Thy sight, and Thou seest all things, and nothing can hide itself from Thee.
⁶. Thou seest what Azazel hath done, who hath taught all unrighteousness on earth and revealed the eternal secrets which were (preserved) in heaven, which men were striving to learn:
⁷. And Semjaza, to whom Thou hast given authority to bear rule over his associates.
⁸. And they have gone to the daughters of men upon the earth, and have slept with the women, and have defiled themselves, and revealed to them all kinds of sins.
⁹. And the women have borne giants, and the whole earth has thereby been filled with blood and unrighteousness.
¹⁰. And now, behold, the souls of those who have died are crying and making their suit to the gates of heaven, and their lamentations have ascended: and cannot cease because of the lawless deeds which are wrought on the earth.
¹¹. And Thou knowest all things before they come to pass, and Thou seest these things and Thou dost suffer them, and Thou dost not say to us what we are to do to them in regard to these
- Book of Enoch 9:1-11

². And behold, the names of those Angels: – The first of them is Semjaza, and the second Artaqifa, and the third Armen, and the fourth Kokabiel, and the fifth Turiel, and the sixth Ramiel, and the seventh Daniel, and the eighth Nuqael, and the ninth Baraqiel, and the tenth Azazel, and the eleventh Armaros, the twelfth Batriel, the thirteenth Basasael, the fourteenth Ananel, the fifteenth Turiel, the sixteenth Samsiel, the seventeenth Yetarel, the eighteenth Tumiel, the nineteenth Turiel, the twentieth Rumiel, the twenty-first Azazel.
³. And these are the chiefs of their Angels, and the names of the leaders of hundreds, and their leaders of fifties, and their leaders of tens.
⁴. The name of the first is Yequn; this is the one who led astray all the children of the Holy Angels, and he brought them down onto the dry ground, and led them astray through the daughters of men.
⁵. And the name of the second is Asbeel; this one suggested an evil plan to the children of the Holy Angels, and led them astray, so that they corrupted their bodies with the daughters of men.
⁶. And the name of the third is Gadreel; this is the one that showed all the deadly blows to the sons of men. And he led astray Eve. And he showed the weapons of death to the children of men, the shield and the breastplate, and the sword for slaughter, and all the weapons of death to the sons of men.
⁷. And from his hand they have gone out against those who dwell the dry ground from that time and forever and ever.
⁸. And the name of the fourth is Penemue; this one showed the sons of men the bitter and the sweet and showed them all the secrets of their wisdom.
⁹. He taught men the art of writing with ink and paper, and through this many have gone astray, from eternity to eternity, and to this day.
¹⁰. For men were not created for this, that they should confirm their faith like this, with pen and ink.
- Book of Enoch 69:2-10