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solmusdesigns:
continue asking na

Na dem, na dem, no mind am ojaare.

Smartchoiice:
No need. You've done the needful

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Grammar gestapo, na so pipul dey spell "choice" with two "i"s, erhn?
Not so smart as we think we are, with the spelling then are we?

jesusjnr:
Lol! So it's just the bolded you are concerned about?

For someone who could possibly accuse me of being same as the Homosexualist, and argued even with EnthronedbyGod and others concerning this while he was yet here?

And now it's EnthronedbyGod you're accusing to be me as well, and you seriously think I'm the one deluded?

So if you accuse the bolded with the same accusation what would be the difference?

I would leave it to the Spirit leading me to answer you for Himself for He don't need my help.

Making mistakes are a fact of life. People make mistakes and see the error of their ways. It is the response to error that counts, but your inability and refusal to repent from your errors, your evil agenda, deviousness, subterfuge etcetera, will land you a one way ticket to the lake of fire, last bus stop, hell.

Everyone knows you are a poor tormented false self-proclaimed prophet and known nuisance especially here on the Religion forum section.

Cheers01:
Thanks for this post.

"It came to me as I sat in a Texas church in September 2016, with my arms wrapped around my grandmother at her brother’s funeral. I’ve never heard an unspoken message so loudly, but there it was in my brain: “Your purpose on Earth is to spread the word of God through music.” It was so unmistakable that I looked up at the pulpit with wide eyes, convinced the pastor had spoken directly to me. I was shook, but invigorated by the imaginary prompt, a marked shift from how I felt weeks prior."
- Waking Up Bipolar host Chris Cole

I dont know how I managed to have left out the above. Kanye too, must have got an inkling that his purpose on Earth is to spread the word of God through music

Ndukings92:
Guy the way and mannerisms in which u guys dodge questions is pathetic and appalling

Nwanne calm down biko. Now who in particular are you accusing of dodging questions and what questions in particular allegedly are or were dodged?

Ndukings92:
He knew they will still eat de fruit and still warn them because its a bitter pill that had to be swallow. What type of write up is that?

It is a write up that is an aftermath and/or consequence of questions asked

Just because God knew they will still eat de fruit doesnt absolve or free Him of His moral duty/responsibility to warn them against not taking what is not theirs. Adam and Eve after all were adults, werent they, hmm?

Ndukings92:
Had it been Adam and Even did not sin won't it void another of u guys believe that "instead of his word not to come to pass, that d earth will come to stop?"

I think you might want to retry saying this because it isnt coming out right and understandable the way it should

Ndukings92:
why are u guys beating around d bush? ur book abi bible abi na his word is a double edge sword indeed, u guys don't even know d one to answer. just one commandment "don't eat d fruit" Adam could not keep, how can any of u keep una 10 commandments?

Nwanne, no guys anywhere are beating about the bush. Just one commandment was the whole idea. If you can manage to keep just that one commandment, there wouldnt be the need for 10 commandments or more.

Impatience, lack of self-control, indiscipline and unable to keep and hold it together made them eat the fruit and so the history we have

Cheers01:
Christianity is a joke.
Kanye West that has mental issues is preaching. Someone that will still make foolish statements after.
Black people should leave this religion menn

"We’ve both been diagnosed as bipolar, a mental condition characterized by manic highs and depressive lows. Depending on where you are on the spectrum, mania can either make you feel mildly irritated and erratic, or a deep, yet deceiving, purity that makes you think you’re in touch with God Himself. I fall solidly in the latter group, and my condition began with a grand epiphany that didn’t feel like a mental disability at all.

Before I flew home to Texas from NYC to be at my grandmother’s side, I was in the darkest depression I’d ever experienced, triggered by a profound disappointment that my life wasn’t panning out the way I had hoped, both professionally and personally. I was jobless and falling out of love, so I spent the majority of my time in bed, curled up in the fetal position and sobbing endlessly.

I felt myself slipping and began to pray nonstop for any kind of change, a thread to hold onto. Seriously: that’s how this all started. When I began my own informal research later, I found that others with bipolar disorder had been set off by the same thing. “What drove me into my first manic episode was me being extremely, unhealthily single-minded in pursuing the Lord more than I ever had,” one YouTube commenter wrote underneath a video titled “A Look at Bipolar Disorder from a Biblical Perspective.”

That’s how focused I was. I surrendered myself to prayer until the tears stopped and I began to experience thoughts and sensations I had never felt before. My depression dissipated, replaced by a divine sense of calm mixed with an insuppressible desire to save the world with my bare hands. As time would tell, I was going through my first bout with mania, but it felt as if my body was crackling with the electricity of a natural-born superpower (albeit one I couldn’t control).

So imagine my surprise last June, when I heard track two of Kanye’s most recent album, ye. “That's my bipolar shit, ni**a what?” he said braggadociously at the end of “Yikes.” “That's my superpower, ni**a. Ain't no disability. I'm a superhero! I'm a superhero!”"
- Waking Up Bipolar host Chris Cole

donbachi:
When the wind of God blows towards your directions,changes comes and when it finally hits you...your kneels must touch the ground...i thank GOD for kanye's life.

jesusjnr:
I am so thankful too because from what he's saying it's like this guy really means business.
I'm not surprised though because I knew he always had a heart for God through some of his earlier efforts like "Jesus walks", but he was distracted by earthly pleasures.
I pray that God gives him the grace to remain strong in Him.
God bless.

caringheart:
Fatherhood has truly changed him for the better.

jesusjnr:
You really think so? He said God made him get closer to his children and family.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYF7H_fpc-g

Lol, among other similar ones, I remember the above track "Jesus Walks" by Kanye West recorded 2000–2003 but released as music, under his "The College Dropout" album in 2004. Kanye is no stranger to gravitating towards his believers' roots, spirituality and late mum's gospel influence, nobi today yansh don tay for fowl's back ooo. Kanye West with Che Smith co-wrote "Jesus Walks"

Kanye always meant business. He's got a foot in heaven's door, while you jesusjnr, havent got a sniff of any of the twelve pearly gates of heaven

OLAADEGBU:
Latest! Benny Hinn Cries: "I Was Forced And Pressured Into This"
h t tps://youtu.be/tgxl_aTDub8
Benny Hinn seems to be interviewed by his son, Michael. He spoke extensively on the reasons he renounced the "gimmicks"

budaatum:
He was forced into doing evil by the devil? One as renowned for proclaiming the Word of God as he?
Then let him be a lesson to us that we too may think we follow Christ when the truth might be that it is the wily satan that leads us!

"I am pleased that he slowly but surely is coming out because better late than never, besides he has a lot more confessing to do ...
generationz, you my sister recently, have been watching him with the corner eye. The kind of people Benny Hinn has been associating with for some years now for money, power and recognition, but we have been on Benny Hinn's & Co case a long, long, long, lol, long time ago. I remember, a post I uploaded years ago, when we did an exposé on the cartel he is associated with, then I detailed, how Benny Hinn overnight changed for the "bad," after getting approached by two men, then started wearing white suits after the meeting with the two men, who promised him financial riches, fame and power.

This is just the tip of a big and submerged iceberg, as slowly but surely Benny Hinn has more to confess and explain a lot all more, like for example, explain what he was playing at with that "amazing anointing reeking holy ghost" white jacket in the above clips, where he was using it as a zapping rod and flinging it forcefully at innocent and gullible people or he even needs to try explain what exactly he was telling them to drink in"
- Re: Benny Hinn Repents Of The "Prosperity Gospel" - Daddy Freeze Reacts by MuttleyLaff: 10:08pm On Sep 07

"Two men?
Did he ever mention this?
I would like to see the exposé"
- Re: Benny Hinn Repents Of The "Prosperity Gospel" - Daddy Freeze Reacts by generationz(f): 5:25am On Sep 08

Oh no, my bad, it actually is four men. It's being a long, long, long, long time ago, and I meant to type four men approched him. I think the man, James Eugene Ewing, infamously known as God's ghostwriter was among one of the four men that visited him.
Yes, he mentioned it to this one time childhood friend of his, a woman, by the name Trisha O'Connor, who I'll soon be mentioning and talking more of in relation to Benny Hinn as we go below. He told Trish, that four men came into the shoe store he was then working in, anointed him and gave him the sparkling white jacket to be wearing, just like the same one, he on TV, flings at people whacking them with it, and having them fall down, like as if, they're falling bowling game set hit with a ball, and so the era of him wearing white suits began, that even Oyakhilome at one time copied Benny Hinn's style of faked/staged miracles, wearing white suit etcetera too

Now, generationz, quickly grab a cup of tea and munchies because here we go, as I lift up the lid, and reveal somethings, like other info about Benny Hinn, not easily found on surface public domain

To start with, though he claims to be Jewish, not many know that Benny Hinn, formerly known as Toufik Benedictus "Benny" Hinn, is Palestinian. His parents were born in Palestine, with Greek, Palestinian and Armenian heritage.

Benny Hinn's dad, being a Palestinian in an occupied country, decided to, after the 1967 Arab–Israeli War (i.e. ''The Six-Day War'') emigrate the family to Canada as refugees for being Palestinians. The refugeed Hinn family, then settled down in Ontario, where Benny Hinn was assigned a young girl of similar age like him, called Trisha O'Connor or Trish, to learn English from her. The young childhood Benny Hinn friend girl Trish, being a believer, of course shared Jesus with Benny during the time he was taught English in the ESL classes he took with Tisha being a volunteer teacher (i.e. ESL means "English As a Second Language" classes) It has to be mentioned that she and Benny also used to work together in an ice cream shop when young.

generationz, hin don tay wey yansh don be for fowl back ooo, lol. Do you know that this same Trish, that knew Benny from way back when he first emigrated to Canada, was aware, as early and as far back as 1976, that Benny Hinn was dancing with the devil. Trish, is on record, saying that she was present at Benny Hinn's first performance, as that is what she calls and knows it to be, a performance. She said it was an event with around 250 attending people where Benny Hinn was claiming to train pastors on how to bring and/or acquire the "Shekinah Glory " that she approached Benny Hinn on the stage before the day event started to warn him, but she only managed to say "Benny ...", after which Benny pushed her away and saying "Not now Trish. I am with the Holy Spirit" So Trish now replied back, defensively by saying "I am with the Holy Spirit too and I've got to tell you something here" but she said before she could begin to say anything further, Benny just literally and physically pushed her aside, at which she said she felt so rejected and so never got the chance to say to him that what he is doing is here is wrong. This is the same Benny Hinn, who on live TV broadcast, said, he saw a man before his eyes turn into a snake and 2000 people saw this alongside him, lol. Benny with his barefaced lies just always makes me laff. With Benny Hinn everything he says somehow leads and always will lead to a dollar note, a leopard can't/doesn't change its spots. The love of money is the root of all his evils

Benny Hinn, needs to go the whole way, dont stop at prosperity gospel but also admit the false hopes, all the fake and/or staged healing sessions he took part in"
- Re: Benny Hinn Repents Of The "Prosperity Gospel" - Daddy Freeze Reacts by MuttleyLaff: 9:06am On Sep 08

He, with his crocodile tears, was "forced and pressured into this" as in, the WoF prosperity gospel thing by those four men and the cartel who "anointed" him

Michellekabod2:
The dundi @ jesusjnr / enthronedbyGod has once accused me of being @Godwrites

CodeTemplar:
Please show me where I engaged the bolded moniker on this forum ever.

Your delusions cleary knows no bound. Later u go say na holy spirit dey lead u, whereas u dey criticize holy spirit inspired scriptures as having errors under Paul's epistles. We know what u are after o...as a house divided against itself can't stand.

A lot of Dundee United going on here with the sons of disobedience who have the foul spirit working in them on this thread

bonnylight003:
..Give you life to Christ ..Jesus is coming soon.
That's the message for you..
My first and last quote for you..I once followed you..and you followed back..I unfollowed for reasons...
I understand ... Wish you best in you endeavors ...

Well done. What fellowship has light with darkness anyway, erhn?. Light and darkness do not dwell together. Not everything that glitters is gold.

jesusjnr:
Why not we suspend whatever reason you followed and unfollowed me, and tell me which spirit is truly behind your claim that the moniker of a lady belongs to a guy?

Because whatever that spirit is, it is not of God because it is a blatant lie.

But if anything else, I'm happy at what is happening because the evil thoughts that was previously hidden in men's hearts are gradually being revealed by the Truth.

Wish you the best too.

How many wrong guys have we in the church, the body of Christ? How many wrong guys, self-proclaimed Apostles, tormented false prophets have we on this thread? How many are the sons of disobedience who has the foul spirit working in them on this thread?

Darkness does not and can not comprehend light

Mariangeles:
To say that I don't understand you is an understatement...

It's obvious I dont understand you either, so that makes two of us ...

Mariangeles:
It is too early to derail this beautiful Mr MuttleyLaff

If I hadnt known any better, I would be thinking you're trying to make me out to be a mischief maker. I am not in any business of derailing threads, I asked a sincere and honest question about what exactly is it what we need please, and your response to it was "Mr Muttley...". Now why is "Mr Muttley..." needed on such a promising, edifying, informative and so far beautiful thread like this, borrowing your "beautiful" superlative, that selfless OP, is doing just fine and great by himself, erhn?

jesusjnr:
Lol!
Jesus first miracle was to turn water into wine, so maybe they're trying hard to emulate Him by turning a female into a male.

Dry joke. What an anti joke comment to make

Anyway, everyday is for the thief, but one day, one day, just one day.... People make mistakes, people slip up. Thieves dont steal in unfamiiar places. The dossier on you is building up, your slip ups are well documented and you'll only find heaven by backing away from hell jesusjnr. Efry day, efry day, monkey go leave home, go reach market, but one day, one day, hin no go return back home, dat one, nah sure banker.

TV01:
I joined this discussion not so much due to the content, or what could be described as the "unbalanced" nature of some of it. There were many who touched on that point and I didn't need to add my voice. In fact, I would rather, and yet may, ask questions of it, rather than question it.

However, an even stronger driver for me was the question of "authenticity". Specifically, of those who claim to have been commissioned/sent by God and/or experienced a divine encounter with The Lord. Especially in light of the gospel and real practical experience.

A corollary to this is the seeming default of an almost universal acceptance. An a prior assumption, that they are indeed sent. This is often allied with a claim of "spiritual witness", which is in itself a form of defence and a foreclosure of any discussion.

In short, are there any false prophets, or false teachers, wolves in sheep clothing nko? All I hear is a consensus agreement that they are indeed sent, but may have erred along the way and, God sent them like that and they remain His servants and His to judge?

One would hope that a Christian's belief is always in God and/or The Lord Jesus Christ and His saving work. Having said that;

- You have repeatedly and strongly championed this man as someone who heard from The Lord
- Argued for some of His utterances to be esteemed as highly as canonical text
- Named him as someone called to office by God in this age
- Testified to having a witness to his mandate
- Posted excerpts form His writings (which you claim to have read extensively)

I apologise in advance if I've mis-ascribed anything to you, and kindly correct me if I am wrong in any of the above, but in light of the them, how could you not be?

TV

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How many wrong guys have we in the church, the body of Christ? How many wrong guys, self-proclaimed Apostles, tormented false prophets have we had on this thread? How many are the sons of disobedience who has the foul spirit working in them on this thread?

Efry day, efry day, monkey go leave home, go reach market, but one day, one day, hin agbada go hook barb wire sotay, hin no go fit return back home anymore, dat nah sure banker.

Mariangeles:
Mr Muttley...

Haba!!! Madam Maria.... How na? You no wan talk what exactly is it what we need please then?

butterfly777:
Good teaching. Keep it coming.

Breath of fresh air, unlike that fraudulent Apostle EnthronedbyGod MIA and poor tormented false prophet jesusjnr

Mariangeles:
Keep it coming...
This is what we need .

What exactly is it what we need please?

CaveAdullam:
Very wrong assertions, you are very wrong sir.

Very wrong about what exactly sir?

CaveAdullam:
Grab a pop corn bro, go inside your room and lock the door behind you, take a deep breath, pray a little, start from page 1 of this thread to the recent page and you will definitely see and know that enthronedbyGod and jesusjnr are two different set of human beings.

The burden of proof is on you bro, so do the work.

Good day.

Thanks.

God bless.

jesusjnr, the poor tormented false prophet, aka Apostle EnthronedbyGod MIA has pulled wool over your eyes too. I am not surprised as your fascination and obsession with marine husbands, marine wives, village people, winches, demonic blames stories are well known nwanne.

Rogersmith:
How would you guys claim EnthronedbyGod is same as jesusjnr? After trying all you could to tarnish his image. The man is no longer here. Please desist from that. Focus on the topic of discussion.

"... You can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time "
- Religion / Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by MuttleyLaff: 11:42am On Aug 26

Rogersmith will soon eat his comment disputing EnthronedbyGod is same as jesusjnr, especially when jesusjnr finally falls on his sword, like done with Apostle EnthronedbyGod MIA

jesusjnr:
You are right with the bolded, that's why the Love of money is not the root of all evil, because money had nothing to do with the original evil that brought us to this position.

Thanks for sharing.

"For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evils, which some, stretching after, have been seduced away from the faith and have pierced themselves with many sorrows"
- 1 Timothy 6:10

Apostle Paul, in 1 Timothy 6:10 above, was not talking about the original sin or evil that brought us to this position. Contextually, 1 Timothy 6:10, is saying the root of all kinds of evils, perpetrated in the church is because of the love of money, the love of getting money by whatever means possible, even if by hook or crook. The cause of those evils, Apostle Paul, is saying, developed from people coveting, people having their hearts set on getting rich by any means necessary, pastors led astray from the faith and in their greed, doing whatever is needed to get rich like burying head of pig underneath the church altar

The love of money and sexual lust, are buddies, they fight shoulder to shoulder to subjugate man

jesusjnr is saying, money had nothing to do with the original evil that brought us to this position. How about sexual lust? Had sexual lust anything to do with the original evil that brought us to this position, hmm?

jesusjnr:
Probably this confirms the thoughts of those who said sexual lusts was the most potent weapon of the devil to trap men on the other thread

"and asked, “How much will you pay me to betray Jesus to you?” And they gave him thirty pieces of silver."
- Matthew 26:15

"They have left the straight path and have lost their way; they have followed the path taken by Balaam son of Beor, who loved the money he would get for doing wrong"
- 2 Peter 2:15

"⁸Again, the devil took Him to a very high mountain and showed Him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory.
⁹“All this I will give You,” he said, “if You will fall down and worship me.”"
- Matthew 4:9

Judas betrayed Jesus because of money not sex. Balaam made his living cursing or blessing people because of money not sex. Jesus was tempted by Satan with money, riches etcetera and not sex

Every human being has a weakness, has a chink in their armor. For some people, their weak point, their area of vulnerability, is negative love of money. The other some it is illicit sex. It can also be both for these same some, as in, having both the uncontrollable love of illicit sex and negative love of money at the same time, case in point, will be the alleged Krest pastor. For another lot, it could be food, just like as was with Esau. For a different lot, it could impatience, greed and lack of self-discipline, just like as were with Adam and Eve.

Tbh, there is no such thing as "Love Of Money Or Sexual Lust? Which Is More Difficult For Humans To Overcome?" because people compromise for different reasons. People lower their standards for different kinds of inducement. What is bait for Peter, isnt necessarily good bait for Paul

jesusjnr:
Dear Lord, I know You have the solution to every problem and nothing shall be impossible for you to do. So helps address this issue of sexual lust in the church once and for all. In Jesus name. Amen!

The negative love of money rears its ugly head more than sexual lust does among the supposedly faithfuls

The church needs to put on her garments of splendor, drape herself in a robe of righteousness, for the church was given to clothe herself in fine linen, bright and clean, for the fine linen is the righteous acts of the saints. The church is unworthy because she has soiled her garment, her filthy garment, has made her become like one who is unclean.

There is little doubt about the presence righteousness of the church. The Love Of Money and/or Sexual Lust are not qualities of being morally right. Nothing makes Love Of Money and/or Sexual Lust justifiable. A good shepherd shears his sheep, he doesn't for the love of money, go as far as, flay or skin them. Some pastors dont even know to stop when they get down to the skin. Do you think some look after sheep because they love them erhn? No, they only care for the sheep because of their love of money and the sheep are their source of livelihood. They look after their flock, so they can, first, fleece them, or fück and sex them, then second, further turn them into meat commerce to satisfy their insatiable need of moolah.

As God's chosen people, holy and dearly loved, the church needs to clothe herself with compassion, kindness, humility, gentleness plus patience, and make no provision for the flesh, to gratify its desires, as was in the beginning with Adam and Eve
cc God2man2again, Nurumaxy, judedwriter, 0temSapien

jesusjnr:
I wouldn't have answered the fools in their folly, but I think that would be tantamount to permitting their foolishness to bears fruits and multiply.

The one with the moniker sherpherd00 once called the someone else who noticed me and EnthronedbyGod as the same person my alterego.

"From day one, there are lots of fools, like yours truly, keeping abreast of this thread, but fyi jesusjnr, you're one of the greatest and biggest fools, I've ever come across among us all. It was another greater and bigger fool that even liked your foul smelling nauseating post

I dont know who your wife is, who is influencing you, but do know you are of the spirit of King Ahab, a covetous increasingly evil king in Israel's history, who abused his responsibility and led God’s people right into idolatry, leading others into idolatory, as in for example, like you and Apostle EnthronedbyGod MIA breaking the first and second commandment of God, as it is only a delusional person, like yourself, Apostle EnthronedbyGod MIA and bunch of gullible others, who dont know they are delusional, to the extent of believing they have seen the face of Jesus Christ, to the extent of even, putting an image, physical feature and/or picture to Jesus' face."
- Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by MuttleyLaff: 10:17am On Sep 01

jesusjnr:
While the other CodeTemplar also accused me of being the same as the Homosexualist on this same thread.

Ignoranus jesusjnr duh, what do people call those who talk about animal rights, who talk about the thoughtless cruelty to animals, who talk about animals that surely they deserve to live their lives without suffering from predijuces, discrimination, fear of death or being killed etcetera and who fight for animal rights, hmm? Olodo rapata upon twenty.

jesusjnr:
This shows the extent to which some could take their desperation to.

The motive is for no one to agree with me otherwise they'd be seen as the same as me.

The chances are that those who fall for such blatant lies are also liars themselves.

Shame on the devil!

"Keep on being busy under satan's yoke, with images of Jesus. Alright? If anyone wants to know what Jesus looks like, all they need doing is to look at a neighbour

I have warned you before, I do recall that, I've told you to repent. You better take heed to my warning, as a legit moG, unlike the fraud and charlatan that you are. God is slow in anger, but trust me, if you headstrong keep toeing this path, the punishment and fate you rightly deserve is just round the corner doing sit-ups because of you. I know you wont repent, wont take heed of the warning because you are a bigger fool than I am"
- Religion/Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by MuttleyLaff: 9:58am On Aug 20

Yinmu @ yẹyẹ smello dey smell toerag, self-styled, self-proclaimed prophet jesusjnr.
When the devil's finally had enough or gone on tea break, I hope and pray this poor tormented false prophet jesusjnr aka Apostle EnthronedbyGod MIA, gets lucky because as he isnt relenting or changing for the good, thats the only way he can and will escape his journey enroute to the lake of fire, last bus stop, hell.

bingbagbo:
Matthew 26:63-68

62 The High Priest stood up and said to Jesus, “Have you no answer to give to this accusation against you?”

63 But Jesus kept quiet. Again the High Priest spoke to him, “In the name of the living God I now put you on oath: tell us if you are the Messiah, the Son of God.”

64Jesus answered him, “So you say. But I tell all of you: from this time on you will see the Son of Man sitting on the right of the Almighty and coming on the clouds of heaven!”


65At this the High Priest tore his clothes and said[b], “Blasphemy! We don't need any more witnesses! You have just heard his blasphemy!
[/b]

66What do you think?”
They answered, “He is guilty and must die.”


67Then they spat in his face and beat him; and those who slapped him

68said, “Prophesy for us, Messiah! Guess who hit you!”

Jesus Christ is God Almighty!!

Why did the High priest tear his shirt and Charged Jesus for blasphemy? Because Jesus told him he is God, otherwise why the charge of blasphemy?

Jesus sits at the right hand of Power and the High priest knew Jesus' Claim to be the Almighty

Halleluyah

budaatum:
The High Priests of Yahweh knew Jesus was God and killed him anyway?

I wonder why they seem to have changed their minds afterwards since they never quite accepted that he was Yahweh

"You haven't even considered this: It is better for one man to die for the people than for the whole nation to be destroyed."
- John 11:50

"It was Caiaphas who had advised the Jewish authorities that it was better that one man should die for all the people"
- John 18:14

Caiaphas' shocking statement in John 11:50 above confirmed by John 18:14, is the reason why they killed Jesus

budaatum:
Didn't Paul [url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Philippians+2%3A6-11&version=NIV]write[/url] that Jesus wasn't even so arrogant as to assume equality with God?

I am not surprised because Jesus was an unassuming guy. He was God, embodied in human flesh and walked on earth, most interesting and powerful of all, yet that decent enough not to display it all the time. He is modest, yet self assured not to, in His capacity as Jesus Christ, consider equality with God something to be used to His own advantage. Rather, He made himself nothing, by taking the very nature of a servant, and being made in human likeness, being found in appearance as a man, humbled Himself, by becoming obedient to death, even that grisly death on the cross at Calvary etcetera

budaatum:
"Internal conflict? At 7? No you can't possibly understand anything about me, despite it being written on here somewhere, which if you'd read you would not have called it an "internal conflict", since it wasn't "internal" nor a "conflict". I was born an atheist in a society devoid of God and only got to hear of gods at 7 when I moved to a society where gods were.

As for your, "deserve something better", I'm going to have to put that too down to your lack of knowledge about me since you don't exactly know where it is that my tent is pitched.

Do note that I am not "trying to have a taste of "every" religion", and I'm perfectly happy with the one I currently practise, especially since it just happens to be common amongst almost all religions worth considering. Christianity places it so high that it even claims that doing so it pleasing to God.

What please is the name for what Christianity places it so high that it even claims that doing so it pleasing to God?

kkins25:
I am kkins a demon from the 9th circle of hell. Hahahahaha..

Get out of here. Go to hell.

kkins25:
kai, some people are not humans?

So says 7victor

kkins25:
And yet muttley would say the angels live like sons of God.

"Angels, whether fallen or not, are never called sons of God
It was never intended to mean fallen angels nor confuse sons of God to be fallen angels
The term sons of God, right from the Book of Job have always been used for either two things.

Unfortunately, fallen angels aren't among the two things meant when the expression sons of God is used"
- Religion / Re: Is Woman Not From God by MuttleyLaff: 8:52am On Sep 12, 2018

"Sometimes, we give Satan and especially, like in this case, his angels, way too much credit
Imagine fallen angels having sex with human beings.
Who dash monkey angels banana?
I am sorry that is a bad pun so excuse it"
- Religion / Re: Is Woman Not From God by MuttleyLaff: 10:18am On Sep 02, 2018

"kkins25, I humbly and respectfully say this that, you must be half clever and half crazy to open and write a thread full of hogwash, no facts at all, just speculation, sexual fantasies and littered with other sex addiction mumbo jumbo you can muster up

The only real and solid fact in your write up and the only thing you got right, is saying angels are humanoid. Now if you know, accept and agree that angels are humanoid, as in, having an appearance resembling a human being without actually being one, meaning they look like human beings without actually being human beings, then what gave you the crazy, reckless and obsessive idea that angels have peniis, huh?

kkins25, you, since I ever can remember, have always been fascinated with angels and them having sex with human beings. Why?

Dont you realise kkins25, that, angels will first, have to be born, just like Jesus was, either as male or female, in order for them to have any chance to have sex with humans? That hasnt happened yet, has never happened, is yet to happen, so your bizarre, far-fetched theory gets shot down in flames. This applies to others like sọlite3 and even Ihedinọbi3, whom, I am surprised he too, bought into this angels having sex bullshit.

Sodom and Gomorrah was pencilled and earmarked for destruction even before their attempted "rape" of the angels, so the attempted rape wasnt part of the original reason why the destruction punishment was mete on them. The attempted rape, just proven how bad and inhospitable these people have become. They are not welcoming or generous to strangers who visit, instead they are cruel and wicked to them and/or visitors. "
- Re: Who Said Angels Don't Have Sexual Feelings? by MuttleyLaff: 8:39am On Feb 09, 2019

"As a Biologist I am suffered to ask certain questions, and to put the biblical account under heavy scrutiny.
DO ANGELS HAVE THE ABILITY TO TRANSFER THEIR DNA THROUGH SEXUAL INTERCOURSE??
Obviously the answer is YES. "
- Who Said Angels Don't Have Sexual Feelings? by kkins25(m): 4:30pm On Feb 08 2019

You must have mistaken MuttleyLaff for some one else that says angels live like sons of God. Tbh with you, you need to put your biologist certificate into a paper shredder and forget ever calling yourself or seeing yourself as a biologist again

kkins25:
Was jesus of a virgin b7rth yes or no?

Yes, with a capital Y, Jesus is and was.

kkins25:
I am kkins a demon from the 9th circle of hell. Hahahahaha..

Get out of here. Go to hell.

kkins25:
kai, some people are not humans?

So says 7victor

kkins25:
And yet muttley would say the angels live like sons of God.

"Angels, whether fallen or not, are never called sons of God
It was never intended to mean fallen angels nor confuse sons of God to be fallen angels
The term sons of God, right from the Book of Job have always been used for either two things.

Unfortunately, fallen angels aren't among the two things meant when the expression sons of God is used"
- Religion / Re: Is Woman Not From God by MuttleyLaff: 8:52am On Sep 12, 2018

"Sometimes, we give Satan and especially, like in this case, his angels, way too much credit
Imagine fallen angels having sex with human beings.
Who dash monkey angels banana?
I am sorry that is a bad pun so excuse it"
- Religion / Re: Is Woman Not From God by MuttleyLaff: 10:18am On Sep 02, 2018

"kkins25, I humbly and respectfully say this that, you must be half clever and half crazy to open and write a thread full of hogwash, no facts at all, just speculation, sexual fantasies and littered with other sex addiction mumbo jumbo you can muster up

The only real and solid fact in your write up and the only thing you got right, is saying angels are humanoid. Now if you know, accept and agree that angels are humanoid, as in, having an appearance resembling a human being without actually being one, meaning they look like human beings without actually being human beings, then what gave you the crazy, reckless and obsessive idea that angels have peniis, huh?

kkins25, you, since I ever can remember, have always been fascinated with angels and them having sex with human beings. Why?

Dont you realise kkins25, that, angels will first, have to be born, just like Jesus was, either as male or female, in order for them to have any chance to have sex with humans? That hasnt happened yet, has never happened, is yet to happen, so your bizarre, far-fetched theory gets shot down in flames. This applies to others like sọlite3 and even Ihedinọbi3, whom, I am surprised he too, bought into this angels having sex bullshit.

Sodom and Gomorrah was pencilled and earmarked for destruction even before their attempted "[i]rape" of the angels, so the attempted rape wasnt part of the original reason why the destruction punishment was mete on them. The attempted rape, just proven how bad and inhospitable these people have become. They are not welcoming or generous to strangers who visit, instead they are cruel and wicked to them and/or visitors. [/i]"
- Re: Who Said Angels Don't Have Sexual Feelings? by MuttleyLaff: 8:39am On Feb 09, 2019

"As a Biologist I am suffered to ask certain questions, and to put the biblical account under heavy scrutiny.
DO ANGELS HAVE THE ABILITY TO TRANSFER THEIR DNA THROUGH SEXUAL INTERCOURSE??
Obviously the answer is YES. "
- Who Said Angels Don't Have Sexual Feelings? by kkins25(m): 4:30pm On Feb 08 2019

You must have mistaken MuttleyLaff for some one else that says angels live like sons of God. Tbh with you, you need to put your biologist certificate into a paper shredder and forget ever calling yourself or seeing yourself as a biologist again

kkins25:
Was jesus of a virgin b7rth yes or no?

Yes, with a capital Y.

7victor:
Please note this:

Some people that are posting in nairaland and other forums are not human beings.

Some are demons.

So please be careful of who you are quoting and arguing with online.

Some of these demons and spirits beings like attacking the bible,

and they also like attacking and blaspheming the saviour of mankind (JESUS CHRIST).

Just like:Not every one you see in the market is a human being.

Some are demons and spirit beings.

Now this demonic entities are chatting with us online.

A word is enough for the wise.

"Ofeshe lu. Aiya kata
Ofeshe gba. Aiya kata
Ofeshe woh. Aiya kata
Ofeshe weng. Aiya kata
Many posters as you see dem
Na different disguise dem dey oh
Demon(s) in human skin
Demon(s) e put u tie oh
Demon(s) e wear agbada
Demon(s) e put u suit u
These disguising demons ee-oh, na wah for dem"
- Edited from Abami Eda's Beasts of No Nation

Nwanne you give demons too much credit than they deserve

Dantedasz:
Stop getting hot under the collar because you hate me calling you "son"

Why should I hate you for calling me son? Who is hating you? I am just telling you to go find your real son to start playing dad and fatherhood with him, not a make believe son, on a faceless and anonymous forum

Dantedasz:
If you religionists can dish it out, you should be able to take.

I give as much as I take. I confidently can hold my ground, stand, maintain it and even grab yours. I dont retreat or lose advantage in the face of opposition.

Dantedasz:
"Drag me down to places you"ll become uncomfortable in....: "
This is just so hilarious on an anonymous forum! You religionists just have an over bloated impression of yourselves and your silly religion.
You must think I believe in heaven and hell.

Yes ooo, I'll drag you, leaving you screaming and kicking silly back, wishing you're not any further dragged in. Slamming your head on concrete walls will be child's play compared to what you'll be put through

Dantedasz:
Listen closely sonny, I don't believe in anything in your fairy book. You don't scare me one bit because you cant scare me with your gods silly incinerator.

You're stiff scared wannabe father, if not you wouldnt by yourself have brought up an incinerator, something we've never brought up in our today's so far interaction

Dantedasz:
I am done talking to you!

An areligionist coward is a person who is contemptibly lacking in the courage to do something perceived as being dangerous. The coward gets scared, so quickly and early quits. Never expect a coward to stand up for his/her bad bullshits, he/she lacks the courage, so quickly thinks with his/her feet and are very good at making sharpish quick exits

Chosen1984:
We are Created like GOD.. in HIS Image.. saying GOD knew Adam and Eve will sin, does not Come into play..

We as Human beings created in GOD'S Have the Capacity and Capability to do what we want....

Adam and Eve sinned by Themselves.. GOD did not Expect them to do it.. Neither did He Program them to sin..

Nwanne, God knows the end from the beginning, biko jor. The creature and creation are not bigger or greater than God, the Creator. God knew they will sin, it is a bitter pill that had to be swallowed, if the issue of the imminent ugly rearing head of sin is to be dealt with

Dantedasz:
Look son, you don't want me to go down this route with you.

Go look for your son elsewhere and quit behaving like a wannabe father. You better not want to go down this route with me because if you did, I would drag you down places you'll becoming uncomfortable in, that you'll end up screaming for mercy and shouting blue murder

Dantedasz:
You and I know that the bible is a book of fairy tales and is a product of the imagination of primitive men. No single passage in that book is inspired by any god sitting on an imaginary golden throne in an imaginary sky cocoon called heaven. It is just imagination. That is why it is filled up with contradictions and gobbledygook like talking donkeys, talking snakes and virgin births. I repeat again none of it is true or real.

People might have called me a chicken, but one thing for sure, if I really am a chicken, I am no spring chicken. I have given you an opportunity to shine, by asking you to give me your best shot, out of all your, the seemingly inconsistencies and alleged contradictions in the Bible, if it wont be explained to you. C'mon, bring it on, why the sudden cold feet, hmm?

Dantedasz:
I am not going to waste my time arguing with you about contradictions because any time I finish talking with religionists I always feel like I was slamming my brains against a concrete wall of irrationality.

You know me Dantedasz, that I dont do arguments. Dantedasz when you lay your crooked stick(s) down before me, I dont need to argue with you, I dont need to explain how crooked your stick is. All and the only thing, I need just to do, is lay a straight stick down by the side of yours, and wallah, the work is well done, your crooked stick, error and you will stand embarrassed and ashamed.

I love it when you slam your head against concrete walls, by some divine retribution, maybe your brain will hard reset from keep on doing just that

Dantedasz:
I have told you your bible is filled with astounding rubbish. It is up to you to prove to me it isn't.

One man's rubbish is another man's treasure. The bible for one man is garbage, and its another man's unerring truth. One man's toxic waste is another man's potpourri. It not up to me to prove to you anything isnt.

kingxsamz:
So why did God still warn them against eating the fruit when he knows cleary that they'll eventually eat it?

Any responsible other person will at the very least warn against eating the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil and that is exactly what God did

kingxsamz:
And if God actually knew from the beginning that Adam and Eve's sin would bring about death and suffering into the world he created,

This wasnt classified information nau, Adam and Eve were dutifully informed about how death would come about nau

kingxsamz:
why didn't he prevent it?

The only way to prevent it, was not to eat off the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil, period. The command not to eat, is prevention enough

kingxsamz:
Wouldn't that mean that God's plan right from the beginning was to bring suffering and death to the world?

No that is not God's plan from the beginning. The plan(s) God had from the beginning, is for good and not for disaster, to give a future and a hope. Plans to bless with a future filled with hope, a future of success, not of suffering. God's plan right from the beginning was thoughts of peace, and not of evil, to give a positive expected end. To give hope in the latter end.

kingxsamz:
It's like seeing a little boy playing near a fire which you know would definitely hurt him, and then you tell the boy to stop, that he might hurt himself. But he doesn't listen, but instead of you to take him out of there or put the fire out, you let him play and get himself hurt, and on top of that that you punish him for it.

Well, Adam was a boy, neither was Eve a girl, the two were grown arse adults. Who were well equipped to understand the consequence of openly disregarding and showing contempt for the expressed word of God. Do you notice that after the rebelling against God's warning words and after refusing to obey the command not to eat off Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil that neither Adam, Eve or the serpent questioned God why He put the tree there in the first place in the garden, huh?

kingxsamz:
Think deeply about what I just said and give me a good answer.

Think deeply and thoroughly about what I typed concerning Adam and Eve not holding it against God putting the tree accessibly and easily approached, in the garden. Do you think Adam didnt know or understand the implication of eating from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil, erhn?

I can go on, but will pause until when a window of opportunity opens to take advantage off, to share more with you.

Dantedasz:
Squirm confusedly?? Son, you must mistake me for yourself or one of your fellow rabid religionists

You dont know your place sha. Who you calling son, huh? Shebi its you, you're my customer daa-daa ni. How would I mistake my good and loyal customer

Dantedasz:
If any book in the world contained the gobbledygook and inconsistencies in the Bible,would you take the contents serious? For a second just be honest with yourself for once in your life.

I have already said that the Bible is a prophetic and fulfilling book, unlike the other book of Goob, which isnt. Another thing about the Bible, is that it hasnt got any seemingly inconsistencies and alleged contradictions that arent each and all explainable and easily understood, because if you know, you know, and who no know, no go know, and be thinking there are inconsistencies and contradictions when there arent. The book of Goob, is just as its name the word goob is, it is a book full of stupidity, silliness and daftness. Nothing prophetic about it, nothing revelatory about it. It's just an outright shameless sham fantasy book full of gobbledygook.

Now give me your best shot out of all your, the seemingly inconsistencies and alleged contradictions in the Bible, if it wont be explained to you. C'mon, bring it on.

kingxsamz:
You guys always find a way to dodge a question.
Okay...
Are you admitting that God knew beforehand that Adam and Eve would sin against him and did nothing to prevent that from happening?
Give me a straight forward answer without trying to give me some fvcking sermon.

Yes, as being all knowing omniscient God, He knew

kingxsamz:
Are you admitting that God knew beforehand that Adam and Eve would sin against him and did nothing to prevent that from happening?
Answer...

Of course yes, that God knew beforehand that Adam and Eve would sin against him, but in fairness, you must admit, God did warn against it, in order to prevent it happening now.

Chosen1984:
1. NO

2.Genesis 2:16-17
16 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:
17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

kingxsamz:
So God didn't know they were going to sin against him...
Okay...now...
Doesn't that disapprove the fact that he's been regarded as omniscient?
Because if he was that would mean he was able to fortell that Adam and Eve would sin against him.

His comment didnt come out the way he meant it, so just disregard the No answer