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GreatResearcher:
if hell was in the picture before man's creation, and in other for d hell to be of use, god created the tree. This tree became a tool to send man to hell.

GreatResearcher:
I ask again, what was god's initial plan for man?

Was hell in the picture before man ate the tree or hell came in after eating of the tree?

GreatResearcher:
If the plan has not changed, why is man dying?

jcross19:
yes you are right until they take form of mortal man. Because we assume them to be a spirit even now spirit can mess people . bible says they were falling angels so they can do and undo.

GreatResearcher:
what was God's initial plan for man? To live forever or to die after living some years?

GreatResearcher:
what was God's initial plan for man? To live forever on earth right? If that was his plan, why then did he create a tree whereby if man eats he dies? Or was the all-knowing god not know man will eat of the tree?

I as a man cannot create a being with the purpose for that being to live forever then allowed a tree that can kill that being to be in the midst of the being since i as all-knowing knows the being will eat it.

Let's say a man has a dog, he kept the dog in a room with a poisonious meat in the room and the man's wish for the dog is to live not die. Is it not foolishness picking the dog in the room where a poisonious meat is? Especially when he knows the dog will it the meat?

If the man really loves the dog and dont want the dog to die he will either removed the meat from the room or removed the dog from the room. There must be measures to ensure that the dog doesnt eat the meat.

GreatResearcher:
I think it was. bcus I see no reason why he didnt want man to eat the tree of knowledge of good and evil

GreatResearcher:
why didnt God want man to eat that tree? So that man wont have the knowledge of good and evil?

He wanted man to be zombie in the garden?


What a gracious god!

calculator123:
agreed darkness is the absence of light and good is the absence of evil. This means evil is a substance that exists, so who then created it?
the tree isn't evil? wow, so why was it labelled the evil tree? I still wonder how that evil tree is a necessary tool? to do what kwanu?

GreatResearcher:
what was the objective of that tree?

GreatResearcher:
probably to test man.lol

GreatResearcher:
what was the objective of that tree?

calculator123:
explain the bolded in more details

calculator123:
why would a good awesome God create an evil Tree as a tool? to do what exactly?

GreatResearcher:
an all-knowing god create everything in the garden including a tree that he knows wasnt supposed to be eaten by man.

Why create the tree in the first place?

calculator123:
where I asked who created Satan and evil in the garden

GreatResearcher:
Who cursed the ground? God.
Who commited the sin? Man.
Who felt the pain? Man and innocent animals.

What a just god!

calculator123:
Agreed, can you now answer my first question

calculator123:
I think your knowledge about biology isn't top notch else you would realize these animals I mean everyone of them doesn't need man to survive but man can't survive without them.
As a king you should still be able to survive without your subjects but in this case, you know the rest

calculator123:
I seriously wonder how come you feel animals were created for man when reverse us actually the case

GreatResearcher:
Bcus I want to punish my child for his wrong doing so I hav to inflict pains on animals and eventually kill the animals that were not part of the wrong doing

Akin1212:
You should be responding to Budatuum and not me.

Budatuum said, death comes to anything that has life, disobedience or not.

Akin1212:
Your explanation is still suiting my narrative. There's no where you take it to that won't suit what my narrative is. And my narrative is that the whole story was a cooked up story that was poorly written.

If they could do something else that would lead to their death, how does this God of creation becomes perfect in the story? Beside the fact that you bringing up that they could have died by doing something else is a fallacy and straw man, what was written was that they ate from a tree and death came because they did so. Death came does not mean they died instantly, but the disobedience opened them up for death.
So what's your point again?

HappyPagan:
lmfao....

HappyPagan:
Once felt my soul leave my body and tap my ass.. it was that good...

HappyPagan:
too many crase people on this section..

Akin1212:
You already shot yourself in the foot Buda.

Surely and certainly were the words used by God, so God specifically used those English words? Even with those English words, we can still say it means only. According to the fairy, they were not told about death until when instructed not to eat from a tree planted by the protagonist. If the tree wasn't there, they were surely not going to die. Any additional explanation is your own contribution to suit the narrative, which at this point is unnecessary. They would surely die, when they become knowledgeable, but you said ignorance leads to death. That's where you shot yourself in the foot. You honestly did a cognitive dissonance. You should stick with one path, I cannot be going round circles with you. You also said death is inevitable, so it means whether you're ignorant or not you'll die.
Choose one reason why they died.

1. Because they were ignorant.
2. Because they became knowledgeable.
3. Because death was inevitable.
Assuming the story was true.

MrPolitics:
They obviously don’t have the full result. Our own Vanguard is definitely more trustworthy in that regard

MrPolitics:
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2019/02/why-inecs-yakubu-declared-buhari-winner-of-2019-presidential-election/

MrPolitics:
Sowore didn’t come third. PCP had 110k votes, ADC had 97k votes, APGA had 66k votes, ADP had 57k votes.
Sowore’s AAC had 33k votes

HappyPagan:
When I want a rapture, I just get high and have sex.

There's no dying or flying, but it does take my breath away, and sweeps her feet off the ground...

MrPolitics:
Fun facts
1. APC has more votes in the North-West than PDP did in the entire North.
2. northern voters nearly doubled southern voters

MiaB:
Its my birthday nairalanders

MiaB:
Its my birthday nairalanders

anochuko01:
and what good has the 'regular' visit done? the man has lost two elections already, scoring less than a million vote in both. if he had contested for the senate in 2015 and lost, im sure he would have been elected this time.
its obvious he lacks wisdom or he's just proud.
even banky W now has political relevance than him.
you know akin alabi of nairabet? good!
tell sowore to apply sense.

anochuko01:
thunder fire you and that sowore! man would return to US and return in 2023 to make zero impact as usual.
he's as selfish as the rest.

CollinsWeGlobe:
As the nation awaits the final announcement of the result of the election, here is a look at how the major candidates performed in the states and the FCT.

Ilekeh:
Remove the other inconsequential parties. I want to see where Buhari dearest panel beated the president of Biafra well well.
Reorganize your data visualization jor

Rossikki:
Interesting prophecy. Well, he's an elder, and there are things elders can see sitting down that the youths cannot see standing from the tallest skyscraper.