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bloodofthelamb:
Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, to the SAINTS which are at Ephesus, and to the faithful in Christ Jesus(Ephe 1:1.

Dear Father thank you for your "eternal truth" which is your power unto salvation.
I pray as we believe may you confirmed it in our lives. Amen!

God has made us saints through Christ.
We're the saints of God through Christ Jesus.
You don't need to be canonized by mortal men before you could be a saint.
You don't need to die before you can become a saint.

Believers in Christ Jesus are saints.
While those who have not yet believe in Him can also become saints through simple faith in Christ Jesus.
Our good works cannot make us saints, neither can our puny effort do.
Jesus is the author of our sainthood.
In Him all humanity have a chance to become saints of God.

It is foolishness to believe that the puny declaration of men can establish someone as a saint.
Say no to the doctrine of men.
Say no to the deceit and lies of the devil.

Keep believing and keep winning! Peace!

Teach brother.
I wonder, whether or not, self-professed catholics,
the likes of Ubenedictus, 9inches, Syncan, italo etcetera agree to the emboldened up there
and accept that believers dont need to be canonized or formally recognized as biblical saints

TheLoneCitizen:
Dude, what's the meaning of Saint?

As we have worn the likeness of the man who was made from the dust of the earth,
we will also wear the likeness of the man who came from heaven.
- 1 Corinthians 15:49

The biblical meaning of saints means "Set apart"
and implies, a set of people, different and/or distinct, as in, due to, having a likeness of nature with God
and so, set apart from others because of the fact of being special to God

Saints, have swapped the likeness of nature with Adam, for a likeness of nature with God
1 Corinthians 15:49 above, is a future entitlement

9inches:
So, yes!
We already have our milk bottled for hundreds of centuries; and it comes with original seal of authenticity.

MuttleyLaff:
"Dont offer bottled milk, passed on, as if yours"
was making reference to the plastering of that Catholic magazine entire article here without giving credit to author or source

Never mind, as was glad, you admitted your mistake when you acknowledged budaatum's advice when he typed:
"Next time do include links please. People get vilified on here for plagiarism."

budaatum:
Hypocrisy, by the way, is when one tells another to do what one refuses to do oneself.

Ignorance, in almost all cases, is an all way, voluntary misfortune

SMH. Believe you me, the ignorance doesn't hurt,
but singling you out, deemed worthy only enough, to share the info you've shown interest in, with
and then, having you, not live up to expectation and making groundless, caustic comments, mayne, that's what hurt.

#1/ An offer to meet your person, in camera, based on certains proviso, was never refused or accepted,
yet you have the cheek and boldness to be here now, tongue-lashing about "hypocrisy"

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#2/ "This is for anyone considering selling his soull to the devil
through meeting in Camera and signing a contract (aka NDA)" sic
- delishpot ©

delishpot certainly+effectively put the frighteners on you and others, with her above inverted commas scaremongering or scare tactic
and probably explains why you never responded, as to accepting/rejecting the manner and how I declared to share the info with you

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#3/ Waving a "hypocrisy" card and trying to malign, is a vituperative outburst coming after a faulty judgement or reasoning.
9inches "copy & paste" posted an entire article here, as in, word for word, verbatim, without giving credit to author or source.
I initially assumed, that he wrote it all up, after visiting dairy farms, and so would be able to defend it, since its his own composition or write up
only to later on, find out, its bottled milk, passed on as if it was his

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#4/ It isnt a first time, as we had in the past and several times, have extensively discussed matters and/or shared "links" in private, but it is a first time, I introduced a condition,
and condition only, as regards sharing this particular info
So where or what should I start with?
Is it the condition(s), you never bothered to ask what it is,
or your being mute on accepting or not, the offer on how I planned to share the info, books, chapters, verses and whatnot with you?

9inches:
Actually, you are not allowed to forge your own subjective interpretation of Christianity (or the bible) in the Catholic church.

I know.
Martin Luther paid the price
and it wasnt as if his interpretation of the bible was subjective, it wasnt politically motivated

9inches:
The bible is not confusing to the Church;

Doing the classic Acts 17:11 Berean
is not because the bible is confusing to the church 9inches
but is all about examining the bible daily, to see if things are really so, as led to believe.

9inches:
the Church compiled the bible

Yes, this is correct, that the catholic church compiled the bible as we know and most generally used
but if not for the likes of Martin Luther et al, the whole world wouldnt be personally reading the bible in their own tongue
and seeing the text with their own korokoro eyes

9inches:
[s]and was the ONLY body instituted by Christ through which unadulterated Christianity can be taught and learned.[/s]

Good try,
but I am not going to fall for that bait.
No way Jose

9inches:
So, yes!
We already have our milk bottled for hundreds of centuries; and it comes with original seal of authenticity.

But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, (i.e. will send as My representative)
will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have told you.
- John 14:26

Yet when the Spirit of Truth comes, he'll guide you into all truth.
He won't speak on his own accord,
but he'll speak whatever he hears and will declare to you the things that are to come
- John 16:13

"Dont offer bottled milk, passed on, as if yours"
was making reference to the plastering of that Catholic magazine entire article here without giving credit to author or source

Never mind, as was glad, you admitted your mistake when you acknowledged budaatum's advice when he typed:
"Next time do include links please. People get vilified on here for plagiarism."

9inches, you do remember Mark 8:27-30, dont you?
Well you might have "...milk bottled for hundreds of centuries; and it comes with original seal of authenticity" sic
but it doesnt stop God asking you the famous "But what about you?" question

God will say, what about you 9inches, you have/had the milk, you've got the milk,
so where is your cheese, what of the cheese, what about your cheese you've made from the milk?

9inches:
Why selfishly replicate and risk corruption?

The manner Jorge Mario Bergoglio sometimes acts and/or speaks,
can only be due to being privy to certain books kept in the Vatican vault that the average Joe Public hasnt access to
I am quite sure the alleged lost "book of the Righteous/Upright" or the "book of the Just Man" is in there
(i.e. the unknown book of Jaspher mentioned in the OT)

Why not for once, objectively say what the bible says, 9inches
as it happens, I can proffer you a list relating to the thread's subject matter
instead of selfishly reproducing corrupted words or erroneous expressions, that we know are changed from their original meaning and/or state.

beatcoins:
I thought they are lovers.
My apologies for my biased statement

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaNMOZTwyrE
He is a Nollywood movie producer by name of Joseph Jaiyeoba.
https://www.instagram.com/josephjaiyeoba/

beatcoins:
Am I the only one who can read their body language and can tell that she is in charge of the relationship and the guy seem weak?
A picture say a thousand words. Never allow a woman's hand lead you on, that's a sign of dominance.

That's its screen trademark look

martyns303:
With a dress sense and palm sandal like that, what do u expect.
Guy looks hungry

Thats how he usually looks when acting
Watch him in "Ninu Ebi" ("In The Family'') with the same look every now and then in the movie

beatcoins:
probably an opportunist.

The guy is an accomplished Nollywood actor in his own right

budaatum:
So, what's with your "conditions" then, muttley?

What took you so long?
The conditions have to DO with honour and mutual NDA

budaatum:
Are your "conditions" not a form of 'charge'?

Sorry, if you're disappointed.
Unfortunately, it is not in any form of charge.
It's far simpler than a form of charge
To start with it will be given in camera
AND the term(s) of condition(s) are harmless to you.

budaatum:
Take your own advise and give us freely, and without charge, what we've been asking for, please.
Or are you just pulling strings on a puppet?

Dont forget, I singled you out and no more, to share the information with.
Delishpot was trying to gatecrash and snuggle herself in.
Can you imagine that

delishpot:
when next I use to reply your quotes.
It simply means still no proof? Still running around and evading my own requests?
That is what it means when I reply your mention with those little faces.

budaatum:
Or, 'Laff'!

You know what to do, when you're ready
and willing to accept the terms for giving you the information.

budaatum:
So, I have to pay?

...Give these things without charging,
since you received them without paying
- Matthew 10:8b

You know bud, you really made me laugh. SMH.
I thought your first mention about pay was a freudian slip
but hey, here you're again, mentioning pay. SMHx2

budaatum:
I think I should start calling you Laff, muttley!

Call me whatever strikes your fancy
It can't be worse than delishpot's
who had resorted to calling me all sorts of ill-informed & uncouth adjectives imaginable under the sun she could think of

IamTheAnswers:
Try to grasp the concept

Are you talking to me?
Is this directed at me?
If yes, then, what is this concept, pertaining to being religious, that's to be grasped?

budaatum:
So, I have to put in some special request for information you've claimed you'd provide?

Special request ke.
I declared I have no qualms providing you ALL the information,
I actually said the ONLY I'll do it will be in camera
plus providing the info is based on and/or down to your accepting the conditions
The ball has ever been in your court mate,
hanging in the air, waiting for your response, to whack, chest down and kick, head, or throw back.

budaatum:
Next, muttley, you be asking me to pay for it too!

You've mistaken me for someone else

budaatum:
I'm afraid that until you decide to disabuse me of my ignorance, I'll just stick to my position, which, at least, we do seem to share.

My position, and where I stand has been clearly defined.
I am afraid, I can only be sorry, if you've missed it

budaatum:
[s]How silly.
Sometimes, I just wonder if people think they are talking to children or if they tell this stuff to their kids![/s]

Is it not common for people to adjust God's reasoning to suit their's?
Or is it the case that God itself adjusts its own reasoning to suit their's?

Come now, let us reason together, says the LORD:...
- Isaiah 1:18a

budaatum:
One common example I found lately is
ati owo ęni, a ti owo ęni ęlęni, Ọlọrun ma fi kankan won wa
(whether na my money, or someone else's money, God no let me lack either)

Despite Isaiah 1:18a above, for sure, God's reasoning won't align itself with "ati owo ęni, a ti owo ęni ęlęni, Ọlọrun ma fi kankan won wa"?

budaatum:
Is that not a twisted 'God given' justification to steal?

I know the suitable word for describing that badness, is, covetousness

budaatum:
I can't but wonder people's gods are puppets, or at least, often treated as one!

Its true that people , in a sense, often attribute God and gods as puppets and/or something they have wrapped around the finger

budaatum:
I still have not received verses for where Jesus met or decided not to meet with a gay person muttley.
I am beginning to wonder if you are failing to find God's reasoning that suits!

I am beginning to wonder if you really want to receive it, as if/when you're ready, you surely know where I am, what to do and how to holler at me

UserX18:
You say you don’t believe God, and you’re intermeddling with scriptures.
Yes I lack your knowledge, you work to acquire the knowledge that makes you know your God exists.
— now you want to understand God’s wisdom, with your own Wisdom, which God has told you is foolish.
Because you think you’re smart. What great folly

budaatum:
I don't believe Alice in Wonderland, or Harry Potter or Plato's writings either X18,
but that wouldn't stop me reading and learning from them.
I take it that works of writing are inspiring, including yours.
And it's not because you preach God that I include yours, but because you seem to discourse with intelligence.

I do not agree that your own wisdom is foolish.
Please look upon the writings of some on here and give yourself credit!
As to having wisdom, or being smart, you say so, not me.

Wisdom that's at variance with God's is foolish
meaning, any judgement or decision reached by reasoning, that doesnt agree with God's, lacks sound and good sense or judgement

DrGoodman:
That thing on the right side of the picture looks like skull?

¹⁶Let your faith be like a shield, and you will be able to stop all the flaming arrows of the evil one.
¹⁷Let God's saving power be like a helmet,
and for a sword, use God's message that comes from the Spirit
- Ephesians 6:16-17

But let us who live in the light, be clearheaded, protected by the armor of faith and love,
and wearing as our helmet, the confidence of our salvation
- 1 Thessalonians 5:8

That thing on the right side of the picture, that to you, looks like skull, is actually is a paraphernalia
In fact what you see in the picture is a shield, a sword and a helmet

snthesis:
firstly i'm married...
back to the topic, is having boob-job in marriage a sin.
Boob-job in this case is having having sex via the lady holding are boobs together for the penis to slide in and out, till you cum.
is this different from masturbation? since no actual penetration is involved...,
if it is a sin does that make MouthAction a sin (i.e same principle)

First and foremost boob-job means to increase the size of the breasts, change their shape, or make them more even
What you're trying to describe is called mammary sexual intercourse, and it isnt a sin
Masturbation, giving blow-job and performing cunninglus, within committed, honest, lasting lifetime relationships, too arent necessarily sins
Caveat emptor with blow-job and cunninglus though

Martinez19:
you christians sef, una no fit live life in peace.
All sexual acts between a man and a woman are okay as long as it within the confines of marriage.
That's what I know from years I spent as a christian.
Enjoy your life, there is no religious god.

snthesis:
hmmm, thats generalization

Martinez19:
No it's not. Please go and read your bible. An atheist like me knows the bible more than you, SMH.
When it comes to sexual relations, the only sins are:
1) sexual relations between a male and female outside marriage.
2) homosexuality and bestiality.

Enjoy yourself jare!

Consenting adults in a honest, loving, committed, lasting a lifetime, same gender sexual relationship isnt a sin

Accidental post discharge

Misogyny will continue to deal with men until they realize that it's something they need to do away with
Pay attention to the women in your lives...
women are such good custodians of wealth and ideas that bring wealth...
dont let your misogyny make you miss out from amazing ideas from women
- vasheti_ ©

This has NOTHING to do with misogyny.
Your dad wasnt interested in property
and lacked the fore sight and common sense to invest in real estate.
Your mental illness and misandry is again allowing you miss the point and blame this on men
- GraviManic on IG @FuxkSallieMae ©
replying to @vasheti_

delishpot:
Look at the reply that chewing gum boy gave her.
He wouldnt understand truth even if it slapped him in the face.
The typical nairaland chewing gum boy LOL (Keep scrolling and you will see their comments)
When women display common errors common with women I am sure he would not think twice before tagging women,
she obviously did not say every man on earth or in Nigeria is like her dad
but he is suffering from the same mental disorder her dad had for sure.
Too much ITK.

¹⁰Who can find a capable wife?
She is far more precious than jewels.
¹¹The heart of her husband trusts in her, and he will not lack anything good.
(i.e. her husband has full confidence in her and he will lack nothing of value)
¹²She rewards him with good, not evil, all the days of her life.
¹³She selects wool and flax and works with willing hands.
¹⁴She is like the merchant ships, bringing her food from far away
¹⁵She rises while it is still night and provides food for her household and portions for her female servants.
¹⁶She evaluates a field and buys it; she plants a vineyard with her earnings.
¹⁷She draws on her strength and reveals that her arms are strong.
¹⁸She sees that her profits are good, and her lamp never goes out at night.
¹⁹She extends her hands to the spinning staff, and her hands hold the spindle
²⁰Her hands reach out to the poor, and she extends her hands to the needy.
²¹She is not afraid for her household when it snows, for all in her household are doubly clothed.
²²She makes her own bed coverings; her clothing is fine linenam and purple
²³Her husband is known at the city gates, where he sits among the elders of the land.
²⁴She makes and sells linen garments; she delivers belts to the merchants.
²⁵Strength and honor are her clothing, and she can laugh at the time to come.
²⁶She opens her mouth with wisdom and loving instruction is on her tongue.
²⁷She watches over the activities of her household and is never idle.
²⁸Her sons rise up and call her blessed.
Her husband also praises her:
²⁹“Many women are capable...
- Proverbs 31:10-29

To start with, GraviManiac isn't a chewing gum boy
but a grown ass and matured good specimen of a man. No homo

GraviManiac, was totally right, that what transpired had absolutely NOTHING to do with misogyny
If vasheti_'s dad was a misogynist, his alleged hatred of women, wouldn't permit him to marry vasheti_'s mum or have vasheti_ herself

vasheti_'s dad's weak point, is in not acknowledging and appreciating the strength of his wife,
especially in things, like real estate speculation she is good at, that one else seems to see

vasheti_ ought to know that, love is unconditional, for men
but trust and respect aren't given unconditionally
Trust is earned, then respect, following suit, is given

Ephesians 5:33, attests of men, to unconditionally love their wives, whilst wives are to unconditionally respect their husbands
Now since vasheti_'s mum has earned the trust of vasheti_'s dad, vasheti_'s dad respect of vasheti_'s mum automatically follows

The thing and bottom line is, GraviManiac turned the table on vasheti_
and flipped the coin, showing the other side, that it's vasheti_ who needs her misandry symptoms dealth with

Big up and massive props to all the virtuous women out there making us all proud

lightblazingnow:
You are talking about the activities of this world.
That's not the good news I am talking about.
Don't forget CHRIST JESUS brought grace and truth.
To enjoy grace and truth is what I am talking about.

John 1:17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.

Religion was started by Moses,
grace and truth appeared when Christ Jesus showed up, oh you really need to catch this.
1 Corinthians 15:16 For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised:
15:17 And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins.
15:18 Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished.
15:19 If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable.

I am talking about resurrection power

Philippians
3:10 That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death; 3:11 If by any means I might attain unto the resurrection of the dead.

The big one

Philippians
3:12 Not as though I had already attained, either were already perfect:
but I follow after, if that I may apprehend that for which also I am apprehended of Christ Jesus.
3:13 Brethren, I count not myself to have apprehended:
but this one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things which are before,
3:14 I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus.
3:15 Let us therefore, as many as be perfect, be thus minded:
and if in any thing ye be otherwise minded, God shall reveal even this unto you.

Not serving tables my dear, to serve table is religion.
Just as you earlier said nothing is wrong with that, but, it offers no experience of the resurrection life.

Acts 6:2
Then the twelve called the multitude of the disciples unto them, and said, It is not reason that we should leave the word of God, and serve tables.

Then also hear what the apostles said they will give themselves to...

Acts 6:4
But we will give ourselves continually to prayer, and to the ministry of the word.

You're mistaking the "law" for "religion" brother.
Jesus came to bring an end to the law, not an end to religion

Brother, you yourself, by your own admission, said:
I tell you the truth, if your eyes are not opened, you will just be religious.
but I am emphatically telling you that compassion and/or being religious, is a sure banker into the kingdom of heaven

Do you still remember the parable of the separation of the Sheep and the Goats?
Oh you really need to re-catch up
Why not refreshen your memory of it, by going over Matthew 25:31-46 again

lightblazingnow:
What are you saying please

Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this:
to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.
- James 1:27

What God the Father considers to be pure and genuine religion is this:
to take care of orphans and widows in their suffering and to keep oneself from being corrupted by the world.
- James 1:27

The religious service which is pure and stainless in the sight of our God and Father is
to visit fatherless children and widowed women in their time of trouble, and to keep one's own self unspotted from the world
- James 1:27

What I am saying is, I tell you the truth, if your eyes are opened, you will like in James 1:27 above, just be religious.

PastorAIO:
I don't know what this has to do with the fact that you belong to a pedophilic mind controlling cult.

Wow, wonders never cease to exist
Sepe, you replied and mention this guy without getting banned?
I thought no one is going to reply or mention his moniker for fear of getting banned and their post hidden

PastorAIO:
Where did I say anything about John 1:1?
Or about trinity for that matter.

Dont mind the strawman stunt

PastorAIO:
Mantey, the greek scholar whose work JWs abused, has said that his work was abused and corrupted by JWs.
The founder of JW, Charles Taze Russell, the pedophile, perjured himself in court
by claiming that he could read greek and his translation was based on his own greek scholarship.
It turned out that he didn't even know the basic greek alphabet.
And that is the liar you want to base your hopes of salvation on. You're so pitiful.

That must have been cringing and a pathetic sight to watch

Butterflyleo:
Where is the attire he put on?
He is dressed and appears more Muslim.

He has the tell tale long beards, is dressed in a long gown like dress,
you can see his members with turbans on their heads which is a Muslim attire,
his diction is northern in sound, he pronounces Quran like a typical Muslim,
so how then is he looking more like a pastor than a Muslim?

Its you who clearly is misleading people with this thread
and you who clearly did not understand the video you even posted before you did
Show me where he called himself a pastor or an imam
or where he said he had a church background
or where he praised pastors or imams.

Where is your proof that shows he is a pastor?

At 0.05, he mentioned Christ's Grace and Mercy City Healing Church of all Nations
later on at 3:45 said he is a believer
and then ended video with an open palm saying "In Jesus Christ name"

lightblazingnow:
My eyes are opened now,
I can clearly say, I am born again
and I am going to live with my father God Almighty and my lord Christ Jesus forever,
because we're joined together forever.
I tell you the truth, if your eyes are not opened, you will just be religious.
Revelation 3:18 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire,
that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment,
that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy unclothedness do not appear;
and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.

The truth is, to be religious is welcome and expected of you

AnonyNymous:
It's even worse on Friday nights.
To all the Christians constantly asking why we like talking about their God, here's your answer.

I'm not even an atheist, just a non religious person
and might even join the nontheist Quaker Christians later because I like the way they do things.
And their focus on humanitarian works.

Religious Society of Friends

True and pure religious person is one going about humanitarian works

AnonyNymous:
But this. . .this is just annoying. You guys should do something about it before people get bold enough to seek government intervention.
At that point we don't want to hear anything about 'persecution of Christians' because you're persecuting my ears right now and it's not fair.

h t t ps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uIr4oN1yKew

Lagos State has passed a law on eradication of noise pollution across the state.

Lagos State Environmental Protection Agency (LASEPA) is tasked with enforcing environmental regulation around the state based on petitions received from the public
You can interact, inquire or report via SMS and WhatsApp platform on 08099183777.
Calls arent entertained!

Also, Nigeria Interreligious Council (NIREC) at local government levels when contacted can step in
NIREC do tell the churches or mosques concerned to pack in their noise pollution,
where churches and mosques have become a noise nuisance to residents
and neighbours have complained about it to them.

MuttleyLaff:
It is true.

Do you think, I made up that:
"Jesus was even willing to visit someone in a same sex relationship but persuaded it wasnt necessary"

The source is the bible

budaatum:
Just so it's said, your above in italics ("was willing but persuaded''), is an example of your unclearlessness.

The reason is,
"These people will look and look, but never see.
They will listen and listen, but never understand.
If they did, they would turn to God and be forgiven."
- Mark 4:12

Bud, surely, it must have occurred to you that,
maybe I don’t want to be too clear because of the likes of the Ubenedictus, 9inches, delishpot and that halitosis Glycolysis of this world

You see, nothing worth knowing and/or worth having, comes quickly or easy.
If it did, I doubt we'll ever learn something new or grow

budaatum:
You know my vested interest is that what you claim is true,
but I can't go about claiming " muttley said"!
Besides, you've never been shy about posting book, chapter and verse in the past muttley,
so do not disappoint now please.

I already mentioned that I am prepared to tell you book, chapter and verse
but it'll be in camera and under conditions

You're right, I am not known for hoarding information
and so why I dont mind giving you in camera and on my terms

budaatum:
1. Who was the person in a same sex relationship that Jesus was willing to visit?

On camera, let's just say, someone in dire need of immediate assistance for another.

budaatum:
2. Who persuaded him it wasn't necessary?

The same person in a same sex relationship did

budaatum:
3. Where in the Bible (or anywhere) did you get this from?

I've already told you, source is from the bible nau.
Since you added "anywhere"
Yeah, anywhere else from the bible, corroborates it as well,
even you too, unintentionally or without being aware, have also.

I've tried now, haven't I, considering you havent yet agreed, on my conditions yet

delishpot:
Like I said, show me the passage in the bible or forever stop mentioning me.

Have you ever thought about quoting me properly and correctly, when you ask to be shown the passage in the bible.
Maybe, just maybe, I might if you start or begin to do so.

delishpot:
Bla bla bla bla is all I read here.

It is impossible for a person to learn, what he thinks he already knows, that's why all you read is blah blah blah blah

delishpot:
You rotate like a faulty fan and then land by saying I would show you but I have to do it in camera.

Whoever is careless with the truth in small matters, cannot be trusted with important matters.
Is your moniker ID budaatum?
Yes, I mentioned I'll under conditions, in camera, show budaatum, but not you nau

delishpot:
Paul spoke about many sins the fact that he mentioned temple prostitutes at one point
or the other doesn't mean he is overlooking others.

And what exactly, is the other, Paul isnt overlooking, my dear sister?
Are you saying, it is a sin to be in a honest, loving, committed, lasting a lifetime same gender sexual relationship?

delishpot:
You like to take things too literally,
if I say stealing is bad, cheating is evil,
lying is bad, greed is an abomination and killing is evil,
would you say one of those sins was more favourable to God than the other?

My sister, I love you to death, for this postulation & question.
Let's go there, let's discuss it.

We can see you, saying in your postulation, what's bad and/or what's evil
then when you got to "greed", you changed tone
and reverted back with "killing"
There surely is a reason, why you singled out "greed", ONLY, to be something intensely disliked.

adultery in Leviticus 20:10, even though this one, according to Jesus, most commit this in the heart
incest in Leviticus 20:11-14
or bestiality in Leviticus 20:15, imagine this one, what could be more vile than this
are all sexual sins or sexual immorality
but each escape the mention, to be condemned as an abomination unto God

There is only ONE reason that, its ONLY Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13,
ALONG WITH BEING CONDEMNED AS sexual sin or sexual immorality
IT IMPORTANTLY ALONE IS AN ABOMINATION unto God
whereas other sexual sins or other sexual immoralities werent

The issue about this whole matter, isnt per se, about one sin being more favourable to God than the other,
instead, its about a statement of fact
and a strong objection to something specially done when Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13, back in the day, is being done or carried out

Fast forward, to 4000 years therabout later, the detestable custom of Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13 is still worse
so Paul, with 1 Timothy 1:10 and 1 Corinthians 6:9 writes about it along with the "malakois" and "arsenokoites"

Deuteronomy 23:17 and 1 Kings 14:24, are mirror versions of Paul's 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 and 1 Timothy 1:10

God has a reason for disagreeing with the practice associated with Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13
The reason, certainly, isnt about consenting adults in a honest, loving, committed, lasting a lifetime same gender sexual relationship
so what really, gangan, is the reason?

delishpot:
Why concern yourself so much about the language used?

Because misinterpreting,
especially the meaning of the language used plus the context of how and why the language was used,
leads people, similar to you, to make the bible incorrectly say, what it never said or intended to say

delishpot:
The bottom line is they are all sins and an abomination unto God

They, all, rightfully are sexual sins,
but only Leviticus 18:22 and/or Leviticus 20:13 sexual sin, did God class as an abomination unto Him.

The bottom line, is, you're commiting a deliberate act of deviating from the truth, hoping it will go unnoticed
and you know it.

delishpot:
Focus on the fact that it is a sin, forget about the big grammar and focus on the sin part.
That fact is what you are rejecting.

Its increasingly becoming more and more apparent, it's you, who likes to take things too literally.
It's you, who can't wrap the "big grammar" (i.e. I suppose abomination) around the head
It's you, who is focusing on an absent sin part

delishpot:
That fact is what you are rejecting.

Honest fact and truth aren't always pretty, aren't always easy to get through

Just because a pseudo fact has been widely held doesnt mean it isnt utterly absurd
In this matter, the truth is more important than your pseudo fact

delishpot:
To you sodomy is right and was never a problem to Jesus.

The great advantage about telling the truth is that someone whose learned like you never believes it.

This truly, must be confusing for you
because there you go again, confusing the word sodomy and likening it to someone who loves others of their own sex

Have you ever thought about why Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13's "not lie with a male as with a woman" doesn't in the slightest have a mention and/or reference to the story of Sodom and Gomorrah?

The truth & fact is, nowhere would it be found in the bible that the sin of people of Sodom and Gomorrah was anything related to Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13

delishpot:
Even without paul saying or not saying anything

I smile at seeing "even"

delishpot:
the bible condemned the act of homosexuality so save your upside down gospel.

SMH
Why not be specific?
Ordinarily quoting Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13 or saying "not lie with a male as with a woman" would not wash
Why not clearly define or identify, like budaatum would want, what part exactly the bible condemned in the act of homosexuality?

delishpot:
I aint buying it.

I aint selling you anything
besides, I am not responsible for convincing you

delishpot:
What is hidden so badly in the bible that you can not point it out?

I am not pointing it out for you, especially when you arent ready

delishpot:
You have pointed passages where the act was condemned
why would it take conditions to show a passage from that same bible where Jesus welcomed the lifestyle?

I never gave passages where "the act" as you put it, was condemned.
Please, enough already, ah-ha.
This is becoming too much
Nobi by force nau.

delishpot:
why would it take conditions to show a passage from that same bible where Jesus welcomed the lifestyle?

SMH.
Yes, Jesus welcomed someone living that lifestyle and was glad to help him and his partner out
You can grovel, shout till your throat goes sore or crawl over broken bottles as much as you like,
the offer to show the passage in camera but on conditions was extended to budaatum and not you
You are not proven, worthy yet, to be privy to that information or passage

delishpot:
Jesus visited many sinners that doesn't mean he encouraged their lifestyle.

I can give a list of a fair amount of sinners Jesus visited or helped where He publicly discouraged their lifestyle and meant it
one thing is certain, He never discouraged the lifestyle of consenting adults in a honest, loving, committed, lasting a lifetime same gender sexual relationship

He even praised the partner of the consenting adults in the honest, loving, committed, lasting a lifetime same gender sexual relationship

delishpot:
Stop joking with me abeg.
Post passage here.
The book, the chapter and verse let me see it.
I am not ready to meet conditions with you.
UNTIL THEN I SHALL SAY NO MORE:

You are the alawada keri keri joker here
Everyone except you knows, the offer was to budaatum and not you

delishpot:
I just decided to announce this fact again
so you don't act all super winning when next I use to reply your quotes.
It simply means still no proof?
Still running around and evading my own requests?
That is what it means when I reply your mention with those little faces.

Dont be like that.
"... there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth..." will not be your portion, my sister (Amen)

Glycolysis:
I was really shocked when I saw his write up ...& actually the way he devotes time to twist gullible minds..
Just keep it strong dear...only the weak falls for that rubbish write up of his..

Truth crushed to earth is truth still and like a seed will rise again, says Jefferson.

delishpot:
point out a bible passage where homosexuality is accepted, get behind me.
I will not engage in this topic again unless you do as I have requested then we can analyze whatever proof or fact you have presented from the bible and discuss more.

budaatum:
I'd like to see that evidence too muttley.
In all my reading about Christ, I can't recall him engaging with homosexuals.
They don't seem to have turned up in the New Testament until Paul started ranting about them.

Did you know it used to be a highly valued act in the Greek society long before the arrival of Jesus?
It was not unusual for wealthy Greeks, and Romans, to have their favorite male on the side, and for centuries after.

It was considered beneficial for the young male who acquired a teacher and benefactor (a "sugerdaddy", effectively),
and for the benefactor who acquired a soyoyo of the male form.
- budaatum ©

"No Israelite, whether man or woman, may become a temple prostitute."
- Deuteronomy 23:17

There were even male shrine prostitutes in the land;
the people engaged in all the detestable practices of the nations the LORD had driven out before the Israelites.
- 1 Kings 14:24

Committed, faithful, honest, lasting life time same sex relationships have been there from time immemorial Bud
Bud, Paul wasnt ranting about that.

What Paul was ranting about was the infidelity, promiscuity and the cult practice of having sex with patrons as a form of deity worship.
This custom was rampant and happened in the Old Testament in the lands before the Israelites arrived too.

Bud do you remember the screenshot I pasted
The one about with Leviticus', showing, what, is an abomination unto you and what, is abomination, to God
The screenshot clearly detailed what these are

We know Leviticus 20:13 is Leviticus 18:22 and vice versa
Paul actually re-echoed them with 1 Timothy 1:10 and 1 Corinthians 6:9,
because the problem which isnt about same sex relationships with fidelity
but something else entirely, reared its head with the Gentile

There is this strong common thread through Leviticus 20:13, 1 Timothy 1:10 and 1 Corinthians 6:9 and it ties them together
but it eludes the most astute

Peoples perception of the matter isnt what they think and learned it to be.
First step, will be, to review 1 Timothy 1:10 and 1 Corinthians 6:9, and look into what "malakois" and "arsenokoites" really means,
just as I earlier advised 9inches to do just that
but he opted to plastering that Catholic magazine entire article here instead.

Milk cow(s) alright but make your own cheese
Dont offer bottled milk, passed on, as if yours

The epiphany of what the "the detestable customs that were practiced"
in Leviticus 18:22, Leviticus 20:13, 1 Timothy 1:10 and 1 Corinthians 6:9 were, will occur, after the review

It is an insufferable practice
and that's why God is reprehensive about the detestable custom being practised

It's the only ONE reason that this sexual sin,
that this particular sexual immorality, is condemned as committing abomination unto God
but other sexual sins or other sexual immoralities like,
adultery in Leviticus 20:10, incest in Leviticus 20:11-14 or bestiality in Leviticus 20:15,
escape the mention to be condemned as an abomination unto God
or as one thing, God dislikes intensely

So many other places in the bible about this satanic ritual, sex orgy and detestable custom being practised
a few case in points, like Deuteronomy 23:17 and 1 Kings 14:24, are mirror versions of Paul's 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 and 1 Timothy 1:10.
God, so much, disliked intensely, the practice.
Imagine the cheek of it. Excuse the pun

I can show you THE evidence of Jesus engaging with homosexual(s),
but it will be in camera, and under conditions.
Bud, you dont know how shockingly close you were, in knowing about this, with that your above inverted commas remark up there.
You will beat yourself up Bud, for not being consciously aware of it.

cc Ubenedictus

Jochabed:
MUSA MUSY!!!

higherpower:
I don't know what Musy means but I guess it's a nice thought. So I gave u a like

Where is the "like" you gave?

2019elections:
Who has rohr's number should pls tell him to bring in iwobi.
There is no connection between the midfielders and the strikers.
No creativity. Musa isn't the solution.
He can't turn, he can't dribble.
Pls abeg, make una tell am before my ticket cut.

Aye mi temi bami.

He scored at the 49 minute.
I think your grumbling, made them score

Smartademu:
Eat your words, he just scored.

Serious skill and goal
Smartademu did you see how Musa mid-air clawed the crossed in ball down with a raised leg
and immediately afterwards blasting it into the goal

This Rohr sef, he couldnt even properly celebrate the goal

PS: Musa just scored a second one at the 75 minute

PS2: Ope ooo. over the bar penalty done by Iceland at the 82 minute

PS3: 2-0 win at final whistle

delishpot:

You're predictable.
Oya, another one

Change the record luv! The needle is stuck!

delishpot:

Ignorance on the subject of being gay humbles

I know sister, I understand the mouth shut.
I know the score, that it's better to keep sealed lips and be thought ignorant than to open them and remove all doubt.

delishpot:

Kilari, you have nothing to say about the emboldened?

Whats the matter?
Are you, again, reading too much into my words?
Or cat got your tongue?

delishpot:
Quit your evasion of truth. Show me proof or remain silent.
Go continue brainwashing your followers.
I am not a candidate for your lecture.
All you have succeeded in doing since I started chatting with you is to whine about my choice of language. If at first I said "bought" and later I interchange with the word "purchase" you start crying foul.

The least I expect from you, is if at all, you want to interchange my word, interchange and use it, in the same context I used the original word.
Is that not fair asking?
Is it too much to ask?

What you don't know is,
what exactly, was THE abomination to God, that the people inhabiting Canaan and it's surrounds were practising before the Israelites arrived

delishpot:
point out a bible passage where homosexuality is accepted

I have said it before and will repeat it here again,
your two star scriptures, that you've learned are talking of men lying down with men, like as if lying down with women,
IS NOT talking of same sex relationships that is committed, faithful, honest and long life lasting.

You will find the corroborated verse in Deuteronomy.

Those two scriptures in OT and the other two by Paul in NT, are talking of the same thing you are ill-informed about.
The two in OT and the two in NT are similar and so why they're related

delishpot:
get behind me.

Get behind you, to do what. Kikiki ki.
Not that I am predijuced, only that, it isn't natural to me.
I pass.

delishpot:
I will not engage in this topic again unless you do as I have requested then we can analyze whatever proof or fact you have presented from the bible and discuss more

Like as if I care more or less, if you engage, or not engage, again, in the thread.
You haven't the stamina to discuss.

Be careful, what you wish for sister.
You go wound ooo, as I will pound you left right and centre, top, bottom and under

You'll come out and fall apart, like a cheap suit, that has its loose thread yanked and pulled.

Accidental post discharge