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ScienceWatch:
Mmmm. I am sure you have observed the extreme similarities.
The Gay movement hate religious scripture that expose their error

ScienceWatch:
Yet they insist on their right to holy matrimony which is based on religious scripture

ScienceWatch:
Two men getting married in a church can only be dreamt up by Atheists

ScienceWatch:
Here we see atheists hate God and JESUS, while fighting for their right to insult and mock religious scriptures freely under the guise of free-thinkers, with no regard for the dignity of millions of decent people.

ScienceWatch:
ATHEISM IS SYNONYMOUS WITH THE GAY MOVEMENT !!!!

hopefulLandlord:
actually I did and everything you said is wrong so the conclusion you drew can't be correct either, let me summarise it

"Atheists only believe what they can see" No!

"Jesus never organised any religion after himself" maybe but that's not important here, what's important is that an organised religion has been built around the person of Jesus and some people are against that, we don't need to split hairs over this

organized religion
noun
1. a structured system of faith or worship, especially one followed by a large number of people, such as Christianity, Islam, or Judaism.

You mentioned islam, something I never brought up or where did you see me mention islam?!

You misconstrued my talk about "suffering" and started talking about Abednego and whatnot, wetin concern me with that one?

its funny how you've totally missed everything we've been saying and you're trying hard to drag unimportant matters into this

what? do you have any idea what newage means? Shintoism, Buddhism, Taoism, Jainism are NOT newage by any stretch of the imagination! neither do any of them claim to be gods, you're just talking ignorantly and a simple googling would've saved you all these embarrassment

Like I said, nothing in your long thesis is correct so its safe to say the conclusion is not too

ScienceWatch:
Pseudo science is the atheists bible.
GMO foods falsely punted as a boon to mankind, is extremely unhealthy.
Even animals that fed GMO wheat has died under laboratory conditions.

Atheism is synonymous with the socially destructive Gay Movement.

budaatum:
Nope, religion has not been behind ... .
You and your sneaky question, "some of" !? That doesn't have a meaning!
Still, religion has not been behind the "greatest crimes against humanity we've witnessed".

budaatum:
No religion has ever killed anyone.

budaatum:
It is humans who are behind the greatest crimes, and achievements, we've ever witnessed.

budaatum:
Some just sometimes chose god as their preferred weapon is all.

Ubenedictus:
yeah, morality gets decided by vote in conference.

Ubenedictus:
the Catholic Church will come pretty close but it won't come to this... there are doctrines

Ubenedictus:
and nobody have to power to change them

budaatum:
The human race is replete with occasions where the human conscience failed in its instinctive duty then it would seem

budaatum:
The Aztec sincerely believed it was right and proper to sacrifice thousands of humans to their gods.

budaatum:
The conscience of slave raiders do not seem to have persuaded them to abolish slavery,
and the looters of Nigeria must not have consciences, or instincts, and mist definitely not, morals!

budaatum:
Conscience actually evolved into being.
Primitive humans hardly exhibited it, and relied more on consequence than anything else.

budaatum:
The reason one ape does not steal your banana or wife is for fear of what you'd do if you caught it.
You should see how apes fornicate sneakily when chief ape isn't watching or becomes too old to do anything about it.

budaatum:
You should see how apes fornicate sneakily when chief ape isn't watching or becomes too old to do anything about it.

budaatum:
Or that voice could be saying crap, like, "get a gun, go to a high school, shoot people, they don't deserve to live".
Or, " atheist are stupid", as one persons 'still small voice' recently claimed.

Ubenedictus:
Amen

Ubenedictus:
the guys are Catholic ministers and theologians, I thought you would have guessed that.

YoungFr:
5) In Joshua (1-24) Why have the Jews go across the promised land killing everyone and everything in sight?
Isn’t that the first genocide ever recorded theoretically?

philoo:
The people they killed were the remnants of the sons of am am, the half Angel half human entities of genesis

YoungFr:
Funny you, well I'm lil bit convinced

gideon19:
So, the guy has finally been caught...thanks to you all.

asuustrike2009:
It has made many to become addict.
Many persons especially Christians would rather check the latest updates on their bet before praying to their creator.
Imagine my neighbor asking for my phone to check what is popping on bet naija. He so addicted.
Many I know are so addicted that they don't invest their proceeds wisely.
The bottom line is that it takes one's time spent in doing others to concentrate on whether you had won or lost

dizon:
I thought gambling was a sin

tosinspot:
By gambling, one is choosing not to explore the potentials that was packaged in him/her from creation. Indirectly, one is opposing God's plan. This shouldn't be heard of in churches.

asuustrike2009:
Perceived sin but there is no correct biblical backing against it.
If there is, Bible scholars can throw more light.

asuustrike2009:
I personally don't support gambling because of the way it operates

YoungFr:
I was in an argument with a friend and coworker on certain things in the Bible that no one have been able to explain,
he tried explaining but I wasn't convinced with the answers.
Here are some of the questions

YoungFr:
1) in Genesis 7:2, Noah was instructed to take seven animals each.
My question is how was he (Noah) able to take seven animals each knowing they are more than 8.7 million species of Animals

YoungFr:
And if everyone on earth but Noah’s family was killed in a great flood,
did Noah’s kids sleep with each other?
Isn’t this a sin?

YoungFr:
2)Why did Bible not talk much about the father of Abraham or how he was born

YoungFr:
(The Bible doesn't say where Abraham was born. Abraham first appears in the Bible in Genesis 11:27)

YoungFr:
secondly Bible says (Take your son, your only son, Isaac, whom you love, and go to the region of Moriah. Sacrifice him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains I will tell you about'” (Genesis 22:2).
Why didn't Bible recommended Ishmael as the son of Abraham, why only Isaac

YoungFr:
3) In Genesis 19:26 But Lot's wife looked back, and she became a pillar of salt.
Did anyone witness Lot's wife becoming a pillar of salt when she looked back at Sodom?
If yes who's the person that witnesses her becoming pillar of salt. (Note: Her husband or kids didn't look back)

YoungFr:
4) Job 1:1-22 (Job 1:20–22 God talked to Satan again. He said everything had been taken from Job. And Job was still righteous. But Satan said Job would not be righteous if he were very sick.
So God said Satan could make Job sick. But Satan could not kill him.)
Question What’s the deal with Job?

YoungFr:
Does god and Satan normally sit around talking about how to test people to see if they are loyal to god?

YoungFr:
What is with that?

YoungFr:
5) In Joshua (1-24)
Why have the Jews go across the promised land killing everyone and everything in sight?
Isn’t that the first genocide ever recorded theoretically?

YoungFr:
6) Where is the tree of life?
From reading Genesis it would be safe to assume it still exists.
Where is it?

YoungFr:
Don’t you think someone would have noticed a flaming sword out in the middle of nowhere?

YoungFr:
7) Why didn’t Jesus have any female disciples (or did he)

YoungFr:
And was Eve really to blame for everything?

YoungFr:
8.) Jeremiah 1:5
“Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you;
I appointed you a prophet to the nations.”
Question: Does it mean God knows what we will become in life and also know how we gonna die?

YoungFr:
Please all I want are answers and not insults.
I'm a Christian who's confused about some certain things in the Bible
and thinking of becoming an Atheist because of all the unanswered questions.
Thanks

budaatum:
So, morality is not a learned thing, according to you, and the verses quoted?

budaatum:
Are you saying consciousness, morality and one's success are hardwired?
Do you mean they are determined before one is actually born?

budaatum:
Do you mean by this that a bad conscience,
as in one that may not see murder as bad, can be hardwired into one before birth?

budaatum:
Or that they lost the good consciousness that was hardwired and a new but bad one replaced it?

budaatum:
What you saying muttley?
That the morals of the father and daughter described above is wired into their DNA provided they are Christians, as butter is saying?

MuttleyLaff:
The sense to know, what behaviour is right and what behaviour is wrong
Conscience, whoever you are, is hardwired in all

budaatum:
conscience
ˈkɒnʃ(ə)ns/ noun
a person's moral sense of right and wrong, viewed as acting as a guide to one's behaviour.
So, a person (who by mere virtue is subjective) has a moral sense of right and wrong that is hardwired?

nwabekeyi:
I'm really very curious to know

nwabekeyi:
if I must accept a name, I should know everything about that name. Its safer that way

nwabekeyi:
the Hebrew and Egypt version Moses means to different things, read it well, so how come Yeshua and Jesus will mean the same thing?

Two different transliteration from one source,
that doesn't make any sense, we know what yeshua means, we are still yet to find out what Jesus means

lilliesboy:
WHO and WHO has that bloody name saved apart from saving you from reasoning like an intelligent human being instead of like an animal in the jungle?

lilliesboy:
That bloody name

lilliesboy:
- jesus, is a Latin name

lilliesboy:
and that is why it is a popular household name in many Latin-American countries

lilliesboy:
But, it has "paganic" origins in Greek and Jewish myths.

Maamin:
Lol! O I see, transliteration is your major problem.

Yeshua is the English transliteration of the Hebrew text of that very name.

nwabekeyi:
yes, that's what I want to hear, so how did Jesus come to be and what does it mean?

nwabekeyi:
it does matter, because some school of thought suggests that the change in the name was intended to subtly lead us to another god from Greek origin and this claim is very substansive as the first Anglicization of "Yeshua" is of Greek origin.

What do you think about that?

vaxx:
i will appreciate further explanation here.

nwabekeyi:
so why can't you just pray in yahashua name instead of Jesus since we can now write the Messiah's name correctly in English with an accurate pronunciation?

nwabekeyi:
I really I'm not comfortable with praying to an anglicized name when the original version is available unless there's a hidden story behind the emergence of the name Jesus that has made it so difficult for Christians start praying with yahushua

nwabekeyi:
How did we arrived at the name "Jesus"?

What's the etymology of this name?

From my little research, I discovered that the name means absolutely nothing in Hebrew or any other semitic language of Isreal.

If Jesus was said to be Hebrew and the name means nothing in Hebrew even when you try to give a literal translation, so how then did the name come to be?

What language was the name Jesus coined from and what's it's literal translation in Hebrew?
I stand to be corrected, I just need to know the literal meaning of the name "Jesus"


Butterflyleo
Budaatum
Otemsapien
Johnydon22

vaxx:
muttleylaff i think ur presence is needed here

MuttleyLaff:
"Ma kọja mi Olugbala, kii nse orin ibilẹ kọ", budaatum please translate
ScienceWatch, one here to go.
Iyam here too to benefit from this gesture and be overwhelmed by the generosity ooo

ScienceWatch:
Lol. CROSS OVER ME SAVIOUR ??

ScienceWatch:
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Have you forgotten, I got your number early last year after I suggested that we get the best lawyers to lay CRIMINAL charges against the false accusations thrown at you.

I still got your number. I will send you Sms in 20 mins.

Butterflyleo:
Aptly put!

There would be no brain without a DNA coding.
Every single working part of the brain that makes it what is as the centre for thought, response, knowledge, understanding etc and the various parts it has been split into in order to achieve this purpose is all down to DELIBERATE DNA CODING in order to SPECIFICALLY ACHIEVE THIS AIM.

This was why I said to him that Without this prewiring nothing is taught or learned or understood.

No morals would exist without the very FOUNDATION known as DNA!!!!!

PERIOD!!

Atheists always tend to be close minded in view of these things.

Again I say, you put it aptly.

budaatum:
conscience
ˈkɒnʃ(ə)ns/ noun
a person's moral sense of right and wrong, viewed as acting as a guide to one's behaviour.

So, a person (who by mere virtue is subjective) has a moral sense of right and wrong that is hardwired?

budaatum:
What you saying muttley?
That the morals of the father and daughter described above is wired into their DNA provided they are Christians, as butter is saying?

Butterflyleo:
Not by someone/ something in your context and view but by someone/ something beyond your view.

Thoughts of good or evil did not just arrive. They are already prewired into our DNA. Something we did not influence.

budaatum:
That is not the perceived or generally accepted wisdom on the topic butter. It is widely understood that morals are learnt from ones society. You would also note the numerous teachers (Moses, Jesus, Muhammad, mothers, to name a few) who have come to teach morals to humans. They could hardly have been necessary if morals needed not be taught because they "are already prewired into your DNA".

Butterflyleo:
You don't get it as well.

Anything alive is traced to DNA level.
DNA responds to stimuli and everything in you exists due to your DNA coding.

Your brain functioning the way it is is due to the " wiring" of your DNA units which brought about your nerves etc in your brain.

Every action or reaction came PREWIRED.

Take it or leave it.

Without this prewiring nothing is taught or learned or understood.

I am done here.

johnydon22:
Really?
I didn't grow up in Lagos then so I'm unfamiliar with this.
I grew up in Igbo land

johnydon22:
we'd rather say
"If a mad man slaps you while naked, don't chase after him naked too or you'd be presumed mad"

I'd rather live according to that.

johnydon22:
ok

johnydon22:
I have read the link and I still maintain that Frank's comment was not enough to bring up such dark, wicked reply from Anas

johnydon22:
Understand this: I'm not interested in who threw the jive first

johnydon22:
If she had replied with an insult I won't even care, after all that's basically what this thread is about from page 0 to page 12.
I do not care.
Saying he was responsible for killing his wife is tat above normal insult, its dark and connotes a terribly bitter and dark mind to spin out such vile.
If you don't find anything wrong with her obviously insensitive reply then its good

johnydon22:
I'm done sir.

johnydon22:
You don't expect me to read every comment here, do you?

I skip through and read only ones from monikers I'm interested in.

I and Anas friend outside nairaland so imagine my disappointment seeing her in such puerile mud.

I didn't see Frank's comment but non the less saying he killed his wife is inconsiderate, insensitive and wicked.

johnydon22:
Now I have seen the comment in the link you shared, you can compare both?

All Anas did (so called retaliation) was affirm his judgement by throwing out such blatantly insensitive comment that I still maintain is wicked and dark..

budaatum:
Why should bad behaviour "not be condemned nor condoned"?
Are you blind?

budaatum:
Do you not see it?

budaatum:
Are you mentally incapable of deciding what to "condemn or condone"?

budaatum:
Or did you not learn humpty dumpty?
Disgraceful you, yes wriggler.

budaatum:
Wasn't your wriggle that I did not even qualify to be in this thread not to talk of comment because, buda does "not believe in Jesus!"

Now you wriggle with "no one is allowed to decide if bad behaviour should be "condemned or condoned".

budaatum:
Bo ya omo kekere ni iwo se ti iwo ko fi mo eyi ti o da yatosi eyi ti ko da.
Ni ta wa, 'Agba ki wa li oja ki ori omo tuntun ru iwe".
Translate please.

budaatum:
I grew up in Lagos, and never had to shout at "area boy" by the way.
Some were my mates for Christ sake, so why would we be shouting at one another?
And especially at me, buda?

budaatum:
Try respecting "area boy" for a change, muttley.
You'd be amazed what you'd reap in return.