MrPresident1: Let me provide some explanation, when Nigeria's capital was moved to Abuja from Lagos, all the Embassies that were formally in Lagos had to relocate to Abuja because Abuja had become the seat of Nigeria's sovereignty, where her president lives.
So also, if America moves her embassy to Jerusalem, it is a formal acknowledgement that Jerusalem is the capital of the Israelis. The Israelis are not the Israelites of the Bible, this is an usurpation and a coup against God, against His chosen people, and against His King, David.
Whether God will allow it, and allow this perfidious abomination to flourish is what we are all about to see.
Keep your fingers crossed and watch
Who are the Israelis then? What is the identity of these Israelis who are not the Israelites of the Bible? Who are the real Israelites of the Bible? Where are the real Israelites of the Bible to be found? Can the real Israelites of the Bible please stand up
vaxx: go thru this thread below, i pointed out a lot of evidence of biblical Jesus that has been confirm to be real not just by road side historians but from the reputable university source..( Cambridge and Emory) what is yet to be confirm is the miracle and the virgin birth ascribe to him
Please clearly express or rephrase what you mean by the above emboldened Are you waving off and dismissing the miracle virgin birth of Jesus Christ?
vaxx: it is called association marketing just like how will all use the paper dollar to define or measure our strong economy...
I'll repeat the question: What really was the rationale for having "In God We Trust" motto established in law? Why was "In God We Trust" motto established in law?
vaxx: i have ou heard of simulacra and simulation? read up. something of such happens to the notions with '' in God we trust''
Yeah I have. I do know about "simulacra and simulation", as funnily and bizarrely enough, I came across "simulacra and simulation" phrase recently when researching on how to make holograms You know, like the Coachella music festival, type ones?
It's weird you brought it up here.
vaxx: iis voice is largely ceremonial, it has no formal power for secular matter
Of course, of course. Thats nothing unexpected, yet its still is recognised as the state church though
budaatum: Someone gave me an appropriate response to this, here goes:
And I shan't bother translating.
Someone that gave the appropriate response to that, already gave a loose translation
budaatum: Besides, anas09 does not read what I write so I can use all her monickers, go to the top of the highest buildings, scream them out and add that I love her too really, and it wouldn't make an ounce of difference!
See. Nothing happened to you with the moniker written correctly and not being doctored
budaatum: Hopefully, you can try to come up with another reason for my spelling it the way I did in that post if you cared!
Being sneaky, for size?
budaatum: There you go muttley, she don't read my posts so I can say whaefa I want!
She respects those who deserve it though!
More the reason, why you shouldnt have reservations or recoil from correctly typing the moniker
frank317: nah... i wouldn't even let my wife know i mention "my wife" on a public forum... as far as i am concern, my wife is like jesus or God is this forum... i dont know jesus and no one knows my wife.
Your wife is known from the picture you've been, from the beginning painted and still is, of her
frank317: By the way, if u were my wife what would be displeased of in the post u quoted
frank317: Sadly a single above age lady is trying to tell me how i live my life with my wife. My wife is a woman like u who has found love in me. U are a single old lady who is lonly and is clutching onto mythical Jesus. My religious stand, my wife knows... she is happy with me that way... so far we are the best couple in my area. My wife is my life, my lord, hapiness and my sweetness, even ur ficticious jesus cannot come between us... u actually need a man who will love u the way i love my wife... pay her some respect, she is not ur mate(oops, not agewise).
Imagine you inviting your wife to come read the content of your post. I doubt from the picture of the wife you've painted, she'll rubber-stamp and give her blessings to your post being a good write-up
vaxx: Do you know this motto was challenged on 1st amendment on the establishment grounds by American Supreme Court? but it ruled that it doesn't have anything to do with religion, being strictly ceremonial and patriotic. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_God_we_trust#Controversy on this i based my conclusion. that the motto does not relate with Christianity
Can you be honest with me? Come on, be straight up. What really was the rationale for having "In God We Trust" motto established in law
vaxx: yes England has so much in relation with Christianity but since she practice unwritten constitution it might be difficult to deduce authoritatively on that, but i can give reasons why England is also a secular state. the only christian state i know in Europe is Denmark. the even have an office that recognize it
Does a Church of England still exist? I wonder what the state church of England is. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I rest my case
vaxx: Do you think God listen to this you prayer? in my own opinion, not really. IF i am to tell you this. you are not demonstrating the Christ like example of a good christian. i could remember when a certain moniker'' tozara'' opened his foul mouth on you, we all condemn him on that thread. Act what you preached MA .
The beginning part of what you bolded, is a hyperbole, nothing to be taken literally and you dont have an informed opinion, thats why.
We all, are work in progress. With different threshold and different levels of grace Rome wasnt built in a day
vaxx: i am of the opinion you are not pushing this notion further
Well... its obvious which God was/is in mind
vaxx: you may be ask to tell what GOD is the motto suggesting, allah, yahweh, odin or native america gods. the nature of God is highly controversial.
Dont be facetious vaxx. You and I know, what God the motto is suggesting
vaxx: most Christian schisms arose from arguments over the nature of God. it is better to called her a Secular state that intend to relieve her citizens from the ignominy of heathenism
I agreed with you that the US is a secular state, more the reason why I liked the post You seem to forget about the pilgrims and the Mayflower ship
vaxx: even ENGLAND use such a phrase ''GOD SAVE THE QUEEN''
And Zadok the priest took an horn of oil out of the tabernacle, and anointed Solomon. And they blew the trumpet; and all the people said, God save king Solomon. - 1 Kings 1:39
Inspite of the first amendment to the US Constitution (i.e. separation of church and state) the US still managed to have the "In God We Trust" motto established in law.
England, as we know it, is not a secular state. The phrase ''GOD SAVE THE QUEEN" in its anthem, has its origin modelled after 1 Kings 1:39 above
frank317: Is USA a christian state... go to church in usa u sill see only the old. They are for everything thaat christianity is against, gay marriage, violence, indescriminate fornication, abortion and drugs. How come christians are lay claim of a teritory with characteristics that are opposite what they preach... when these "Christian" behaviours are used against them, same Christians will start shouting that christianity is not a religion or that they were never real Christians
vaxx: USA is a secular state according to the constitution but have Christianity in majority
vaxx is right but from formerly being "e pluribus unum" the modern motto of the US, as established in law, has been: "In God We Trust"
budaatum: This silly gif of yours pisses me off something chronic Muttley, and I wish you would stop with it already
Deactivate your "pisses me off " unnecessary status
The "silly gif..." doesnt feature in the thousand and one sensible, worthwhile things that rightfully should piss you off like truth cover ups, injustices, social and economic marginalization, oppression, sexual orientation discrimination, exploitation, pervasive herdsmen violence etcetera
So you know, I found your comment to be in poor taste, for saying, that the Dada gif I occasionally employ is silly
The Dada gif is an expressive gif. It makes known my thought or feeling about posters mentioned with it and/or posts it references
This same Dada gif, you've whined and taken issue with, it along with other befitting ones, will continue to grace my posts, IF, WHEN and/or WHERE appropriate, as have usually been.
budaatum: However, in this case, damn spot on to cover ones face in shame as you did here for this an as 09 type comment. So thumbs up!
I love seeing people get excited but then "ki ise gbogbo nkan ti oju ri, ni ẹnu nsọ" loosely means "Its not everything or all that the eyes see, that the mouth necessarily comments on"
PS: so not to attract Anas09's observation, you turned to and adopted an "an as 09" type comment. Spacing out the characters in her moniker, to avoid her detecting being mentioned.
vaxx: rit is not ignorance dear, USA is indeed the most technological advanced nation in the world, why? Their advances in space technology played a significant role in making it possible. From the atomic bomb to landing Neil Armstrong on the Moon. Space exploration, it is even the birthplace of internet . you must have head of San Francisco bay area that is nicknamed silicon valley and likewise other developments like pharmaceuticals, defense system and telecommunications. the military innovation gave birth to GPS, which now found its way into our homes in form of cars ,phones and so many format. the same USA has also produced the world’s biggest technology companies like Google, Facebook, Apple, Intel, IBM and Microsoft. i am aware of japan progress too especially in the area of robotic technology and their effective automobile industry which can be compared to that of Germany. but in general, USA spends so much on research and development more than any country making them a top notch in the wold, well, it might not be well organized like German and japan but it indeed a technology hub. the only country near USA in spending on research and development is china which and yet she is still on the average. japan is quite impressive but not much advance than USA . it still lags behind in IT infrastructure . isreal too is not far fetched, the small nation has a lot of technological companies listed on the Nasdaq stock market more than any country in the world apart from USA and china . maybe china will take the spot soon. that is another story for another day
Before i go ahead answering you on Russia? what do you mean by saying she is backward? is that you on the DP. if so, you are really endowed. am less interested in your evangelism, so i am not commenting on that
MrPresident1: Matthew 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
This is another Bible prophecy that has been fulfilled. Immediately after the tribulation... How do we know that the tribulation has ended?
The way to know is to understand the nature of the tribulation. When God gave the law to Israel, the law made Israel to dominate all other nations on earth. God through His Word enable Israel to have complete dominion, and Israel enjoyed the best of everything as long as she obeyed the LORD. The challenge was that anytime Israel disobeyed the law, she fell into trouble with God, and as a result of this God would allow her neighbours to dominate her until she repented, then He would forgive her and she would rise again.
Judges 10:13-16 13 Yet ye have forsaken me, and served other gods: wherefore I will deliver you no more. 14 Go and cry unto the gods which ye have chosen; let them deliver you in the time of your tribulation. 15 And the children of Israel said unto the LORD, We have sinned: do thou unto us whatsoever seemeth good unto thee; deliver us only, we pray thee, this day. 16 And they put away the strange gods from among them, and served the LORD: and his soul was grieved for the misery of Israel.
Keep in mind that I am not talking about the Israelis, the Israelis are not the Israelites of the Bible, and you can never ever ever understand Bible prophecy if you continue to see the Israelis as the Israel of the Bible. It is only when you begin to see yourself as the person the Bible is talking to, as the original and true Israel, that is only when you can begin to understand. Let us go on... Everything the Negro has passed through up to this day in the hands of the white man is the tribulations.
The world is ruled by ideology, God allows a nations ideology to gain supremacy over another nation's ideology and automatically the nation with the winning ideology overpowers the one with the losing ideology. All empires rule by their ideology; this is why when a nation conquers another nation, it seeks to wipe out the history of that people so that they are better pacified and eventually assimilated. In 33AD God allowed Jesus who is the ideology of God to be killed by the Romans (there was a darkening of the sun as this happened Luke 23:45). In effect this meant that the law of God was defeated by the law of the Romans, this victory of the Romans over Israel meant that the Israelites would now be forced to conform, and in fact take part in all the abominations that the Romans dabbled in that were forbidden by the law, after all they were a conquered people, they had no choice but to obey their rulers. This was the same situation they passed through in the hands of Nebuchadnezzar when he asked the three Hebrew boys to bow to his golden image; and also when those three boys refused to eat of the kings table, apparently there were some meats in the king's delicacy that were forbidden in the Jewish dietary laws.
Rome is Edom, and Edom is red. One major aspect of the Romish tribulation of Israel and of the whole world is the notion of racial superiority and exceptionalism: ''we are bigger better, wiser smarter, more intelligent than you'', this encapsulates the Roman world view as they continuously seek to dominate and enslave the whole world. This has always been Rome's desire, to enslave the world. Now the notion of Racial superiority, which is the chief and central cornerstone of Roman world domination is called RACISM. On the 14th of August 2017, the Head of Rome (Rome did not disappear, it only morphed into another thing) denounced RACISM, and RACIAL SUPERIORITY.
CONCLUSION This declaration by President Trump was end of the tribulations h t t p s ://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67XvygmlOT4 And here is the bombshell, immediately after the declaration, one week after, on the 21st of August 2017, we had the great American Eclipse. The fall of all world empires including that of Israel was heralded by an ECLIPSE.
Further reading h t t p://www.nairaland.com/4005560/spiritual-implication-eclipse-america-great
budaatum: Below is a sample from the site! The list is detailed and I was amazed someone had actually gone to the extent as to list them. If you have specific questions about what you quoted, be obliged to ask please.
Greek mythology Aeolus, god and Ruler of the Winds Anemoi, (in Greek, Ἄνεμοι — "winds" ) were Greek wind gods. Boreas, god of the north wind and of winter. Eurus, god of the unlucky east or southeast wind.[/b]
In relation to the above reproduced remark you made about gods of Europe, and how the Europeans evolved their ideas of the gods over time etcetera the wikipedia link in your first responder DOESNT list the names of these gods of Europe and their countries
My interest solely and only is in the list the names of these gods of Europe and their countries Nothing else, less or beyond interests me
I careless about Greek mythology, please list me the names of these gods of Europe and their countries Can I be or get more specific than that?
vaxx: whatever You think of me is not my business. i am not an atheist simple.
vaxx, the only remote thought I had of you is, finding you're smart and sophisticated, you travel and you're worthy to have discussion with I am not losing any sleep over whether you are an atheist or not. Sorry. You have no idea
I wrote that I was not impressed with the wikipedia link first response not that I am not impressed with wiki
budaatum: Were you expecting me to list them offhead like I carry such information around in my head? Or you don't have data to go to wiki so I should copy and paste?
Yes, I was expecting you to please list the names of these gods of Europe and their countries
budaatum: Wiki has done an adequate job in providing the information you requested. They amazingly listed them by country with links to each in case you wanted to delve deeper. The only ones missing are African wind gods, and I don't know that there is a god of ategun or afefe in Yoruba mythology. If anyone provides one I'll personally go edit wiki myself.
In relation to the above reproduced remark you made about gods of Europe, and how the Europeans evolved their ideas of the gods over time etcetera the wikipedia link in your first responder DOESNT list the names of these gods of Europe and their countries Maybe they are written in security ink
My interest solely and only is in the list the names of these gods of Europe and their countries Nothing else, less or beyond interests me
budaatum: You should be grateful I did not ask you to go Google it yourself! That was came to mind when first I read your request, you lazy!
Dada would have laughed and throw up his hand in the air at you here I that asked, know what I am doing A firm grip on a wrist is harder to wriggle out from
Yahweh, according to Christians. Allah, according to Muslims.
I liked the second response but not impressed with the wikipedia link first response
What asked you do was to please list the names of these gods of Europe and their countries not sign posting me to a wikipedia link to ferret them out of it
SalamRushdie: As a rule I never have any financial dealing or agreement with any man that has a big tummy and it has helped me thus far in life .. that big tummy didnt get there by mistake
The bulge. That's the telltale sign I first look out for in "pastors" and it usually gives "guilty ones" away as a big tummy is likely due to lack of discipline. Makes me wonder about the spiritual state, if such have a weak state of health consciousness
budaatum: I understand, and I do it too. Isn't it amazing how animals can be so like humans. You should watch chimpanzees showing empathy and being vindictive too, its amazing.
I am glad for Sir Attenborough really. You should see the awe with which such programs I take back home are watched. I project them on the wall so them seem large too. I just wish we had such telly more often back home.
budaatum: I did wonder how what you wrote about Barbara related to what you quoted. You would have seen the reference to fish and right through from the beginning of the thread.
I am sorry. I must admit to skimming through the interactions between you and AnonyNymous and seeing fish randomly being mentioned here and there
What I wrote about Barbara in relation to what I quoted, was showing that animals, just like humans can show undying loyalty I've seen animals being vindictive too An elephant slapped a middle aged man with its trunk Apparently when the middle aged man and the elephant were both much younger, he used to make ugly faces and sticking tongue out at the elephant The elephant never forgot, and years later in a circus remembered, then karma paid a visit
diasporaman: A huge sum of money was discovered in the apartment of a Nigerian student by the Metropolitan police. According to reports the bailiff accompanied by the police stormed the apartment of the Nigerian to serve him paper only to discover a huge cache of $8.5million.
The guy who owns the apartment is from the Yoruba tribe of Nigeria. In the video he made a call to somebody where he said "mi o ti wole" which means " I'm in a mess"
"mi o ti wole" loosely means "I am not in yet"
"Unbelievable! $8.5 million not in an akant but stashed inside house cupboard or safe yet still stingy and greedy enough not to pay bills causing bailiffs to come barge in. Must have been ignoring several debt collection notice letters
AnonyNymous: Lol what about as companions, like dogs are to humans Besides, the rules they'd probably impose on us wouldn't be soooo bad
budaatum: Says who? Haven't they shown enough stupidity by seeing me as I see fish and intending to have me as dinner? Do they behave as some humans do and 'eat' their companions too?
In fact, I think you are now insulting fish! If fish had my level of intelligence, little as it may be, do you think fish would not get a gun and shoot me even if just because I am so stupid to consider it as dinner in the first place?
I rhetorically bet you they treat us like we treat chicken! And if fish or chicken could, it too would get a gun and shoot me.
[img]https://s1/images/BarBush.jpg[/img] Secret Service agents who served Barbara Bush for decades and who she treated like "family" refuse to leave her coffin The agents swapped around and took turns watching over her casket.
Animals like dogs too are known to show loyalty until the end like this and refusing to leave their owner/companion's dead body or coffin
You got jokes, kikikiki ki OK, if of course like you say "they were dying from death", what was the cause of dying from death? Why were they dying from death? Where they dying of old age, died of diseases, died from being preyed on cos being part of a food chain, died from fatal accident etcetera?
Image123: Abi which kain query be this one. It's like asking me to prove from the Bible that Adam peed. It's fallacy to assert that it didn't happen because it was not written. Animals would die because they were not made to live forever in the first instance. They were not created as eternal beings and God didn't breathe the breath of life into their nostrils like He did man.
You know, accept and agree that God in Genesis 1:29–30 decreed plants to be food and not flesh
It's equally a fallacy to assert that animals died, Now because it was not written that animals died, implies it didn't happen or hadnt yet happened
Animals wouldnt die because they freely had access to the Tree of Life
Image123: Even man was going to eventually "die" by default, except he ate the tree of life. Remember?
You are hurling presumptions Remember, man already was dead man walking upon chomping on TKGE fruit As a matter of fact, man immediately began to die from the moment of that bite on TKGE fruit as the mortality clock started to tick down from that point on
Image123: What you call strawman is actually a better answer i should have put forward from the start. The issue was whether Adam and Eve knew what death was/meant. To which i replied that they were seeing it happen to animals. Since you don't like that, then i came more simple to plants. Adam and Eve experienced the death (ceasation of life) of vegetables a couple of times. Abi the plants didn't die? Human beings dying and plant dying is death. They are both living things according to my teacher (1 Peter 1:24)
"seeing it happen to animals" was the bone of contention because the first animal they saw die, didnt happen until Genesis 3:21 or thereabouts
Image123: Don't bring blood shedding into this. i don't know what to do with fish blood and cockroach blood. So why bring blood shedding. Are you a violent person, I'm talking about food, you are talking about blood shedding.
No, just trying to make the distinction between plants and animal Again plants dont have blood it's Genesis 3:21, Leviticus 17:11 and Hebrews 9:22 that calls attention to shedding of blood for sake of forgiveness of sin and that the life of the flesh is in the blood Note nothing about the life of the plant
Image123: On Isaiah 11:6-9, you must forgive me. i don't have reference to remember it's two, lol. Brother, even if it is 7, my point is that it is future/prophetic. i believe you know me small na, i can't wave off a tittle of the Bible on a "it's just written once" base.
My point was we can't use this one, or sorry two or seven future prophecy to determine past. There's a lot of things in Kingdom prophecy that we just have to see it come to really understand and enjoy it.
Genesis 1:29–30 is instructive of what the past was
Image123: Some fulfilled prophecies teach us to tread carefully in exacting interpretation. For instance the same Isaiah in 35:9 says no Lion in the kingdom. To a typical muslin and these other lazy newbies, that's a contradiction. But to us, it's all a picture of a peaceful paradise. Bros, I'm really hoping for that fried chicken in paradise. i appreciate your comments and concerns on Genesis 1:29–30 but i remain of the OPINION that subduing and dominion covers eating of chicken and fried meat. i don't know, i may be wrong but certainly not going to hell. Glory to God. In the golden age (Christ's reign on earth), my joy must be FULL. i will eat fried meat oh.
Despite being told its manna on the menu you still intend to tantalize your seemingly hyperactive taste buds then erh? This your Numbers 11:4 strong craving for meat sha.
Image123: On mosquito bites though, I've heard of someone getting fatter from them. Funny isn't it?
Someone being pulling your leg Getting fat on mosquito bites is a myth
Image123: But on a serious note, it can be a symbiotic relationship if we deal well. If you discovered drug for malaria prevention, it will help
Exactly my point, in symbiotic relationships, neither is helped or harmed Predators and preys, initially had a symbiotic relationship, but that changed, when the predatory switch got activated
Image123: i didn't duck your questions oh. Again, i say animals were dying. They were dying from death, food chain things. It's a characteristic of living things, they die when the time comes.
A cat and a mouse died on the same day and went up to Heaven. At the top they met God, who asked them "How do you like it so far?"
The mouse replied "It's great, but can I get a pair of roller skates?" God said "Sure", and he gave him a pair of roller skates.
The next day, God saw the cat and asked him "How do you like it up here so far?" and the cat replied "Great, I didn't know you had meals on wheels up here!"
The cat didnt read the memo. There is a covenant of peace, seemingly "truce", as it were, the food chain things, had been deactivated, like it had been before the Fall
I think we realise we dont buy or share each others point of view I am not convinced by your antecedents, so I guess we just both have to agree to disagree
Image123: The only thing that could have kept Adam from dying (as we know it) was the tree of life, reason why he was driven out of Eden.
The only thing that could have kept Adam from dying (as we know it) was compliance How qas the weekend?
Two years ago, on Facebook, when queried that, isnt he an atheist, Mark Zuckerberg's response was: "No. I was raised Jewish and then I went through a period where I questioned things, but nowI believereligion is very important"