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Christianity Etc › Re: Did Jesus Tithe? by MuttleyLaff:
GodsMopol:
Nice thread, many consider a tenth burdensome

That's all

God love and He gave John 3:16

That's all, else someone become an athiest
SMH Some are so silly scared of facing the truth, they've become no better than a Pharisee and so effectively turned into a far-to-see.
They resort to putting unnecessary burdens on others
and if they aren't imposing tithes, they are insisting on speaking in unintelligible languages also or otherwise called speaking in tongues
Christianity Etc › Re: Did Jesus Tithe? by MuttleyLaff: 4:17pm On Oct 26, 2017
asuustrike2009:
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness

From Genesis to Revelation, the scriptures are meant for Christians it's not for decoration
Do not cut the hair at the sides of your head
or clip off the edges of your beard

- Leviticus 19:27

Not for decoration indeed.
I bet you keep Leviticus 19:27 too, abi?
I thought my eyes were deceiving me, when I read your pretext

I repeat the question, except being an Israelite, tell where God asks you or others to give Him tithes?
Christianity Etc › Re: Did Jesus Tithe? by MuttleyLaff: 2:43pm On Oct 26, 2017
asuustrike2009:
May God richly bless you for this
Many are against tithing because of the way many preachers misuse it but they forget they're giving to God and not man
Tell, except being an Israelite where God asks to give Him tithes

asuustrike2009:
Giving to the poor is equally good because the summary of the Bible says Love the lord your God with all your heart and soul and then love your neighbour as yourself
If you love the lord you would keep his commandments without arguing.
If you love your neighbour you would assist him in time of need if it's at your capacity to do so
I guess, you keep ALL His "commandments"
Christianity Etc › Re: These Men Are Drunk With Wine- The Misconception About Tongues by MuttleyLaff: 12:45pm On Oct 26, 2017
GodsMopol:
A pastor is not expected to speak in tongues in the church settings as a means of communication. People won't understand
Really?
Wouldn't the people understand if the pastor speaks in known tongues
Better still, interprete or get interpretation if speaking in an unknown tongue

GodsMopol:
The Bible spoke about Paul saying, its better to say 5 understandable words in understanding, so people(church) will learn than 10000 words in tongues and no one understands

1 Corinthians 14:5 I would that ye all spake with tongues, but rather that ye prophesied: for greater is he that prophesieth than he that speaketh with tongues, except he interpret, that the church may receive edifying

Paul is saying here, you can speak in tongues, but notice, he said, except he interpret. So, tongues shouldn't be spoken that much in the church, and moreover, Paul said, I speak in tongues more than ye all

1 Corinthians 14:19 Yet in the church, I had rather speak five words with my understanding, that by my voice I might teach others also, than ten thousand words in an unknown tongue
What is tongues in all those contexts?

GodsMopol:
Well, I realise you are a Muslim, so, cased closed
Makes fishers of men become more worthwhile doesn't it?
Christianity Etc › Re: These Men Are Drunk With Wine- The Misconception About Tongues by MuttleyLaff: 7:16am On Oct 26, 2017
UmarIbnShittu:
curing blind the sick etc
Oh yeah, please elaborate and tell more about how precisely and exactly this is done
Christianity Etc › Re: These Men Are Drunk With Wine- The Misconception About Tongues by MuttleyLaff: 10:48pm On Oct 25, 2017
analice107:
Hahahahahahahahahha. But you let him go on calling you Miss. lolzzzzz.
Well, it's no skin off my nose
Besides, it was the least of my concerns and whatever floats his boat
Christianity Etc › Re: These Men Are Drunk With Wine- The Misconception About Tongues by MuttleyLaff: 10:34pm On Oct 25, 2017
analice107:
I never knew you were a 'MA'.
My sister the misconception must have rubbed off the thread's title
We are now oscillating from Misconception About Tongues to Misconception of Gender
Christianity Etc › Re: These Men Are Drunk With Wine- The Misconception About Tongues by MuttleyLaff: 10:28pm On Oct 25, 2017
bloodofthelamb:
OK MISS!
How many times was speaking in tongues recorded in the bible?
Why did it have to happen at those particular times?
What were the core objectives it was aiming to achieve?

It is not OK, to miss answering all the questions
Though its objectives that were asked, good attempt, tried with giving just one (i.e. salvation)
Christianity Etc › Re: These Men Are Drunk With Wine- The Misconception About Tongues by MuttleyLaff: 10:00pm On Oct 25, 2017
UmarIbnShittu:
I'm damn serious about that
If you believed that, then you've been had by your friends
They've said things that are not true and caused you to believe all

UmarIbnShittu:
no I don't like football
I dont like football either, at least not enough to be cheering a team.
Never mind, it doesnt matter, as I was going to pull you up on the team spirit,
you know the one that turns games around, ginger football players up and wins matches for the team

UmarIbnShittu:
Hw else do you want me to explain it to you?
You've lost me
this is why you need to explain it, so we can be on the same page or same footing
I want to see it, how you see it.
I want to know it, how you know it

UmarIbnShittu:
Pastors use it mostly to perform. Miracles
To perform miracles?
What sort of miracles?
Give a list of the miracles
Christianity Etc › Re: These Men Are Drunk With Wine- The Misconception About Tongues by MuttleyLaff:
UmarIbnShittu:
Can we pls continue tomorrow I have to wake very early tomorrow
Anytime, I can be online at the drop of a hat
We dont want you being grouchy tomorrow for lack of a good night sleep, or do we now
Have a good night bro
Christianity Etc › Re: These Men Are Drunk With Wine- The Misconception About Tongues by MuttleyLaff:
bloodofthelamb:
IT IS WHEN THE HOLY SPIRIT ENABLES YOU TO SPEAK A LANGUAGE THAT IS NOT YOUR TONGUE, SO THAT YOU CAN IMPACT AND MINISTER THE ETERNAL TRUTH OF GOD TO PEOPLE OF THAT TONGUE
Good
but how many times was speaking in tongues recorded in the bible
Why did it have to happen at those particular times?
What were the core objectives it was aiming to achieve?

bloodofthelamb:
PRAYING IN THE SPIRIT IS PRAYING ACCORDING TO THE LEADING OF THE SPIRIT...
TIMOTHY SPOKED IN THE SPIRIT WHEN HE WAS BROUGHT BEFORE HIS ACCUSERS...
I know you meant to type Stephen instead of Timothy

bloodofthelamb:
CHRIST SAID YOUR FATHER WILL GIVE YOU WHAT YOU WILL SAY AT THAT HOUR...FORGIVE ME FOR NOT QUOTING SCRIPTURE..
Dont be too hard on yourself, Jesus, Paul and others, also are known to paraphrase scripture in manner or style you've just done
Christianity Etc › Re: These Men Are Drunk With Wine- The Misconception About Tongues by MuttleyLaff: 9:26pm On Oct 25, 2017
bloodofthelamb:
OK MA!...
I'M GLAD YOU ARE FULLY GROUNDED AND ROOTED IN CHRIST. PEACE!
What is the meaning of your "THE GENUINE TONGUE OF THE HOLY SPIRIT" wording?
Also share how you
and then how does one or how can one "PRAY IN THE SPIRIT"?
Christianity Etc › Re: These Men Are Drunk With Wine- The Misconception About Tongues by MuttleyLaff:
UmarIbnShittu:
According to what my friends tell it is language of the spirit realm because 80% of my friends are christians
I feel it's d language of the holy spirit
Is this the joke of the day? Never mind.
Are you into football, have you got a favorite team you regularly cheer or root for?

UmarIbnShittu:
it's a code language
I asked you share examples, describing what you know "speaking in tongues" to be
but you responded with "... code language" and then after that, you lost me

OK. Share examples, describing and explaining what "... code language" is
What is this "... code language" for?
Christianity Etc › Re: These Men Are Drunk With Wine- The Misconception About Tongues by MuttleyLaff: 8:19pm On Oct 25, 2017
bloodofthelamb:
LOVE CHRIST MORE..
You want to teach big momma how to suck eggs

bloodofthelamb:
I AM AS IRRELEVANT AS THE LETTER 'K' IN THE WORD KNIFE...
CHRIST IS MY CENTER AND MY ALL... AND, THANKS FOR THE KISS.
I couldnt contain it, my emotions got the better of me
Christianity Etc › Re: These Men Are Drunk With Wine- The Misconception About Tongues by MuttleyLaff: 8:06pm On Oct 25, 2017
UmarIbnShittu:
As in?
I didn't get the message you were trying to convey
Sorry about that.
OK, what do you know about "speaking in tongues"?
What to your understanding and interpretation does "speaking in tongues" mean?
Share examples, describing you've seen or what you know "speaking in tongues" to be
Christianity Etc › Re: These Men Are Drunk With Wine- The Misconception About Tongues by MuttleyLaff:
bloodofthelamb:
SIR, I DON'T SPEAK IN THIS TWENTY FIRST CENTURY TONGUES, AND I DON'T BELIEVE IN IT...
BUT, I BELIEVE IN THE GENUINE TONGUE OF THE HOLY SPIRIT...

"WHEN SOMEONE IS FILLED WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT,
EVERY THING THE PERSON DOES IS IN THE SPIRIT, EVEN PRAYING, TALKING AND WALKING."..

CHRIST OUR LORD NEVER PRAYED IN AN UNINTELLIGENT WORDS,
BUT THE SCRIPTURE RECORDED THAT HE PRAYED, TAUGHT AND REJOICED IN THE SPIRIT, BECAUSE HE WAS FILLED WITH THE SPIRIT...

BRO, IT IS NOT UNTIL YOU UTTER SOME NONSENSE THAT HAS NO MEANING, THAT IS WHEN YOU WILL KNOW THAT YOU ARE PRAYING IN THE SPIRIT.
What is the "THE GENUINE TONGUE OF THE HOLY SPIRIT"?
How do you and/or does one "PRAY IN THE SPIRIT"?
Christianity Etc › Re: These Men Are Drunk With Wine- The Misconception About Tongues by MuttleyLaff: 7:38pm On Oct 25, 2017
UmarIbnShittu:
K
When a pastor is in the spirit speaking in tongues does a second party (another man) understand what he is saying
or is only the pastor that understand what he speaks
Very good question
but you'll first, have to say what you mean by "speaking in tongues" in no uncertain terms
Christianity Etc › Re: These Men Are Drunk With Wine- The Misconception About Tongues by MuttleyLaff: 6:07pm On Oct 25, 2017
UmarIbnShittu:
I want to ask a qeustion
GodsMopol wouldn't mind me saying, go ahead
Christianity Etc › Re: These Men Are Drunk With Wine- The Misconception About Tongues by MuttleyLaff:
GodsMopol:
Ehmmmm am with you
I don't think you are yet because I haven't even started

GodsMopol:
But, the bolded though

Acts 2:4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.
There isn't any thing head-scratching about the bolded brother

Have a go at these, make the attempt, won't matter, even if it's feeble
1.) Tell why there was the need for the Spirit to give them utterance so they can speak in another language?
2.) Tell what the identity is of the targeted listeners?
3.) Tell how is one to pray in the spirit?
Tell how does one pray in the spirit?
Describe examples of praying in the spirit
Christianity Etc › Re: These Men Are Drunk With Wine- The Misconception About Tongues by MuttleyLaff: 3:36pm On Oct 25, 2017
GodsMopol:
You know, there is this word "mysterion", that's what you are.

I am quite impressed by this write up

Groaning, supplication, agony and many others like sighing are all demonstrations of the spirit

The Bible said, the spirit giveth to everyman as He willeth

1 Corinthians 12:11 But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will.

I believe, those guys spoke in tongues at that time, they speaking, not really having a clue what they are saying

And here are people not part of them, hearing them, the disciples were actually praying at those period, until the spirit came upon them and they were moved to speak in tongues.

Jesus spoke in tongues, so they knew this thing was not some gibberish, moreso, for them to fully understand what they are voicing, imagine a lady, probably, Afghanistan, she's seeking to know the true God btw moha and Jesus. And all of a sudden, she starts saying in the language of a friend or passer by, I am the Lord that healeth thee, walk before me, and be though blameless, and suddenly, the passerby noticed, he was healed, what will you call that. Hmmmm,

2 Corinthians 13:1 This is the third time I am coming to you. In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established.

They heard Jesus spoke in tongues, they spoke too, but they needed confirmation, so people gave them that, aside that, Peter had scriptures.

Another one, Peter doesn't need peoples report, Thomas needs it, not everynow, but, also, every then. Jesus said, blessed his He that seeth not, yet believe

But lemme ask this question, what would they have spoken, if those visitors were not in the city, well, I believe, God orchestrated it to be so. I surrender to God, grin, He always knows the way I take
I will respond to the above, in detail, later,
so for now, do you really understand the below reproduced, it's slightly edited, and a bit different from my earlier remark?

One can pray in tongues, IN CONJUNCTION with praying in the spirit
One can also pray in tongues IN CONJUNCTION with praying OFF the spirit

Do you understand, the implication of the remark; the spirit is willing but the flesh is weak
Christianity Etc › Re: These Men Are Drunk With Wine- The Misconception About Tongues by MuttleyLaff: 1:49pm On Oct 25, 2017
GodsMopol:
Okay, do me the favour of explaining the difference BTW tongues and praying in the spirit
Now you're beginning to talk

Though tongues has previously been somehow explained above, I will add that tongues simply is language.

One can pray in the spirit and one can, also pray out of the spirit.

One can pray in tongues IN CONJUNCTION with praying in the spirit
One can also pray in tongues IN CONJUNCTION with praying out of the spirit

One can pray in the spirit audibly
or pray in the spirit inaudibly, like doing it under one's breath
An example of the latter, is Hannah's, the mother of Samuel praying

This is just the tip of an iceberg,
there are a gamut of others we haven't brought up
for example: haven't touched groans, groaning, sighing,
haven't touched why were those three occurrences of speaking in tongues,
haven't touched what prompted them happening, what was the objective for them happening etcetera
but I think you're slowly beginning to get the drift
Christianity Etc › Re: These Men Are Drunk With Wine- The Misconception About Tongues by MuttleyLaff: 1:27pm On Oct 25, 2017
GodsMopol:
Ignorance is bliss they say, have a nice day bye
Scurry away, run with your tail dangling between your legs

Take note and make it a good notice of James 3:1
Christianity Etc › Re: These Men Are Drunk With Wine- The Misconception About Tongues by MuttleyLaff: 1:17pm On Oct 25, 2017
GodsMopol:
Are you JW

Which translation are you quoting?

Well, may God give you understanding

Shalom
JW ko, JW ni.
Answer this to see how ridiculous your stance is.
Did Jesus, in your manner of reasoning, pray in tongues?
You've just embarrassingly made a right dog's dinner of all those scriptures featured in your original and last post.
It is a pitiful sight to bear and read.
Christianity Etc › Re: These Men Are Drunk With Wine- The Misconception About Tongues by MuttleyLaff: 1:03pm On Oct 25, 2017
GodsMopol:
Bloodofthelamb won't agree with you on this one
Wasn't it you that opened this thread.
You've lost the bottle and the will to defend your write up, you have to resort to alter ego to try bail you out

GodsMopol:
Lemme leave you with 1 Corin 14:2, Jude1:20 and 1 Corin 14:14-15
For if you have the ability to speak in tongues, you will be talking only to God, since people won't be able to understand you You will be speaking by the power of the Spirit, but it will all be mysterious.
- 1 Corinthians 14:2

But you, beloved, building up yourselves in your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Spirit,
- Jude 1:20

14For if I pray in tongues, my spirit is praying, but I don't understand what I am saying.
15Well then, what shall I do?
I will pray in the spirit, and I will also pray in words I understand

I will sing in the spirit, and I will also sing in words I understand.

- 1 Corinthians 14:14-15

It is very unfortunate that someone like you is quoting scriptures out of context
Christianity Etc › Re: These Men Are Drunk With Wine- The Misconception About Tongues by MuttleyLaff:
GodsMopol:
Acts 2:13 Others mocking said, These men are full of new wine.

Acts 2 is popularly known by the ignorant folks to be a school where different languages are spoken and as a result.
They religiously tag speaking in tongues to a language only and nothing else
7In wonder and amazement, they asked,
“Are not all these men who are speaking Galileans?
8How is it then that each of us hears them in his own native language?
9Parthians, Medes, and Elamites; residents of Mesopotamia, Judea and Cappadocia, Pontus and Asia,a
10Phrygia and Pamphylia, Egypt and the parts of Libya near Cyrene; visitors from Rome,
11both Jews and converts to Judaism; Cretans and Arabs
—we hear them declaring the mighty works of God in our own tongues!

- Acts 2:8-11

If speaking in tongues is not language only, then man is not a human-being only
Tongues is a synonym for languages
Speaking in tongues is a phrase that has exactly the same meaning as other words like language, patios, pidgin, broken english, ibo, hausa etcetera

Jews then, no matter how far flung in the world they are living,
must, as a matter of duty, travel to Jerusalem, to celebrate at its temple three feasts,

These three feasts namely are:
Passover, Pentecost and the Feast of Tabernacles

At the Pentecost feast, which is 7 weeks after the Passover feast celebration, is when and where these Jewish pilgrims,
as in, Jews living outside Israel, that had far and wide journeyed down from every part of the world,
heard Jews with Galilean accent, not just speaking in the Jewish pilgrims diasporas' various and own native languages
but also heard these Jews with Galilean accent telling about the miracles that God has done, in their diasporas' various own languages

GodsMopol:
The verse above spoke about a sect of folks that never heard anything and their confession were different,
I don't know if they heard them praising, but they happen to have a different confession "this men are speaking gibberish"
14Then Peter stood up with the Eleven, raised his voice and addressed the crowd:
“Fellow Jews and all of you who live in Jerusalem, let me explain this to you; listen carefully to what I say.
15These people are not drunk, as you suppose. It’s only nine in the morning!
16No, this is what was spoken by the prophet Joel:

- Acts 2:14-16

Peter rightly corrected those folks, who incidentally, were fellow Jews and all who live in Jerusalem, that what they heard was the Gospel


GodsMopol:
In case you want to be enlighten about the topic called speaking in tongues,
you must see verses like Romans 8:26-27 where tongues was said to be used for praying rather than preaching.

I believe the Bible linked tongues to prayer than preaching, but our standards today is the language
26Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities:
for we know not what we should pray for as we ought:
but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit,
because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God

- Romans 8:26-27

Whatever you believe, be open to being wrong that the Bible linked tongues to prayer than preaching
Dont worry about being wrong because sometimes, wrong helps us find the right

Romans 8:26-27 doesnt in the slightest indicate or suggest that tongues was said to be used for praying
I am sorry to say, you're wrong on this one too

The prevalent status quo view on "speaking in tongues" aka speaking in languages which most are raised with and forced to believe is incorrect
because of the faulty understanding it is based on
Christianity Etc › Re: The Middle Path by MuttleyLaff:
Sarassin:
It was actually a one-off.
I mentioned the occurrence mainly because of the date
and the synchronicity of being served with the drink that I had later on during the same day I had the dream encounter.
Your one too many cat piss jokes pissed him off

Sarassin:
Touche...Pray do tell...
Melo, melo, melo lafe wi
Melo, melo, melo lafe so
Is it retrospectively or the almost daily recurrences
Suffice to say that, one is ever humbled, always, by each

Before, they used to catch one off guard,
only for one, to afterwards, realise, maybe a few days or months later, the meaningful coincidence

Learning to be alert and conscious, helps in being cognizant of almost each, the moment each takes place,
For example, yesterday for instance, out of others that occurred,
one particular, was that surreal, I couldn't explain the occurrence, nor the cause
I just couldnt quite put my finger on why it happened,
so like you usually do, when stumped, I queried it.
I am still waiting...

Sarassin:
Possible although I think the jury is still out on that one.
What I do know is that the entire event served as a bit of a wake-up call for me, a water-shed moment if you like
Wake-up call for you for what?
Your friend's misfortune plus the apparition of him was a bit of wake-up call slash water-shed moment for you?
How is it that your friend's misfortune plus his apparition served or acted as a catalyst for you?
What were you and where were you, before your friend's misfortune and his appeared apparition?
What did your friend's misfortune and his appeared apparition drove you to or caused you, to move to?
Christianity Etc › Re: What Happens To Our Spirit And Soul After Death? by MuttleyLaff: 11:58pm On Oct 22, 2017
anitapreeti:
This question was raised in my Sunday school class today as an aside (it wasn't properly discussed)
I have been pondering on it.
Please can someone who has a better understanding expound on this subject for me and anyone else who cares to know with relevant Bible passages.

Thanks!
Yahveh God formed man from the dust of the ground,
and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life;
and man became a living soul (i.e. living being)

- Genesis 2:7

So also it has been written:
"The first man Adam became into a living soul (i.e. living being);"
the last Adam became a life-giving spirit (i.e. was made a quickening spirit)

- 1 Corinthians 15:45

What Happens To Our Spirit And Soul After Death?
There are different genres of death but that is beyond the scope of this answer to go into

Simplistically, death fundamentally is separation
and there is physical death and spiritual death

From the moment we are born, our death-clock or clock of life starts to count down
this is mainly why, earth is more properly called "the land of the dying"

After this particular and inevitable death (i.e. physical death), one becomes a dead being, as opposed, a living soul
The soul, not only becomes separated from the spirit
it is separated from earth (i.e. from the land of the dying)
and also loses all and/or any consciousness with earth (i.e. the land of the dying) and with anything in it/anybody on it
With an absence of a body, the soul, no more, has any dealings with life or anything on earth (i.e. the land of the dying)

16Besides, a wide area separates us.
People couldn't cross it in either direction even if they wanted to.
30The rich man replied,
"No, Father Abraham! If someone comes back to them from the dead,
they will turn to God and change the way they think and act.'
31Abraham answered him,
"If they won't listen to Moses' [Teachings] and the Prophets,
they won't be persuaded even if someone comes back to life"

Luke 16:26, 30-31

And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment
- Hebrews 9:27

All of us must appear in front of Christ's judgment seat.
Then all people will receive what they deserve for the good or evil they have done while living in their bodies

- 2 Corinthians 5:10

Now what happens to the spirit and soul after death, is that the spirit, after death, always goes back to God.
The soul, however, immediately after the hand of the clock of life had stopped,
and which by now, has become just like a deflated balloon that totally but gradually ran out of air
is transferred to a waiting station or lounge.

And be not afraid of those killing the body, and are not able to kill the soul,
but fear rather Him, who is able both soul and body to destroy in gehenna

- Matthew 10:28

So, there, in the waiting station or lounge, the soul waits, until the call and judgement which it is waiting for, begins.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Middle Path by MuttleyLaff: 11:37pm On Oct 22, 2017
Sarassin:
Who really knows?
"If anyone steals $50 billion or $20 billion anywhere, America will know,
they will tell you where it is; it is their money
"
- Former President GEJ told the world while addressing the issue of "missing" $20 billion.

So maybe, America will know.

Sarassin:
When I had the dream, which was extraordinarily vivid I had put it down to anxiety,
I reasoned that my subconscious was assuaging the feelings of guilt that seemed to really beset me
I thought as much, it likely was down to anxiety due to grief and the shock of the loss

Sarassin:
If the matter had ended there I would not even mention the whole thing
So this dream of your friend wasnt a one-off?
Where there subsequent encounters of him or dreaming experiences of him?
What made you mention him and the dream state on this thread?

Sarassin:
On the other hand I do not believe in coincidences, synchronicity has dogged me the vast majority of my life from the ridiculous to the sublime
I can relate, so count me in, as it makes at least two,
who dont believe in coincidences, because synchronicity has dogged me too, the vast majority of my life from the ridiculous to the sublime

Sarassin:
My late friend and I had a long-standing joke, I used to refer to whiskey as ‘cat's wee',
I would never touch the stuff, he had a few choice words for me too.
It was exactly the kind of inter-stellar performance he would pull that he would have me served his favourite drink
and more to the point in his true laconic manner, ensuring that I would know that he was responsible....by having a single cube of ice put in the drink.
Dont know about your dead friend capable of pulling an interstellar performance
but a plausible explanation is, its the inner man, otherwise known as your spirit man,
that's warning or alerting your soul, otherwise known as the carnal man, via the anxiety dream,
that what was dreamt about is concerning and the cause needs getting dealt with or taken care of
Christianity Etc › Re: The Essential Doctrines For All Christians To Believe by MuttleyLaff: 8:10pm On Oct 22, 2017
walls01:
bro we have spoken enough on this topic, maybe next time we will discuss a better topic. thanks for your time
It's more effort, to keep up with the truth that Jesus is God
and less effort to cover it up with misguided and misleading untruth that Jesus isnt God

How can people trust the harvest, unless they see seeds of truth sown?
Rocky ground, where there isn't much soil?
Well, our work is not the harvest, our work is to keep planting seeds of truth

Truth crushed to earth, is truth still,
truth that fell beside the road, and the birds came and ate it up, is truth still
and like a seed, under favourable conditions, will rise again

Thank you too for your time and for opened for another topic
Christianity Etc › Re: . by MuttleyLaff:
Splinz:
What Cause?

Some men who professed to be 'Christians' appropriate to themselves the power to choose what is right and wrong for a woman. In other words, they literally sits as emperors over women. Now, no matter how foolish or irrational their choices may be, it doesn't matter. After all, they just know that it is written in the Bible, "I am the head".

Ahem! Mbok, who is the tail?

CHRIST AND HIS CHURCH

In Ephesians 5:21-32, Paul further establishes man as the head of a woman just as Christ is the head of the church. Now, the church here should also be seen as a 'woman'. In fact, God's church is pictured as a bride foretold to marry Jesus Christ at His return (Rev. 19:7-9). You see, one can't help but envy the love Christ and His woman shared in Song of Solomon 7. I tell you, Romeo & Juliet are learners.

So as a man, to understand your place as the head of a woman, you must first of all understand Christ's position as the head of His own woman, which is:

1. Christ, though being Lord (master) of all, "made Himself of no reputation" (Phil. 2:7-8 ) and became a servant/slave of all (John 13:5-15), and left for us an example to follow.

2. Whoever desires to be the first/head must become the slave of all (Mark 10:42-45). He must serve and not served.

3. Christ as a good shepherd (groom) died for His sheep (bride)-- John 10:11.

So, who is the head?

To be the head is to be a servant, I.e, though you are the head, but you don't bring this position to bear. Instead, your position is cloaked with humility to love and serve one another.
To be the head is to lower one's self to do such a stunning thing like the one Jesus did, which provoked Peter, knowing his unworthiness and who it is that wants to wash his feet, to say, "Lord, do you wash my feet!?" (John 13:6).
To be the head means there is no head, for all are servants of one another -- equal -- all are driven by the desire to serve.
To be the head means you must also listens, considers, and seeks her consent. To be the head is to be one with her, just like the head of Christ -- the Father, is one with Christ.
37And, behold, a woman in the city, which was a sinner, when she knew that Jesus sat at meat in the Pharisee's house, brought an alabaster box of ointment,
38And stood at his feet behind him weeping, and began to wash his feet with tears,
and did wipe them with the hairs of her head, and kissed his feet, and anointed them with the ointment

- Luke 7:37-38
You head, I am head, everybody is head

Splinz:
Indeed, the headship of Christ over His church and that of man over a woman is, like Paul puts it, a "profound mystery" (Ephesians 5:32).
Truly, it is a mystery to almost all who thinks it's the position of a king. And contrary to claims by some that God is a misogynist, facts reveals He seems to love women the more. But of course, He loves us all the same.

So, does anyone still want to be the head? He desires a good thing. Now is the time to take charged; now is the time to answer your true called! You must come down from your high horse; it is time to serve! And feminism? It will die a natural death when feminists no longer sees emperors but the 'heads'.
Remember, "A servant who deals wisely has the king's favour, but his wrath falls on one who acts shamefully" (Pro. 14:35).

Do you then think it's a win-win for women? No, I think it's a win-win for all. And... it's a wrap!

cc:
Seun
Lalasticlala
Mynd44
Heads-up.
Paul in a brief and clearly expressed manner, said it all, in Colossians 3:11 and Galatians 3:28
where stated, we have put on the new self, and there is no longer male or female

Chrisbeks:
I can't read this your long epistle o but I agree with you.
Modern day feminists are just a bunch of arrogant and ignorant fools
Jesus is my favourite best and most admirable true feminist
And Adam can be the most annoying, arrogant fool and ignorant tool.
Being a fool, as in the noun and in the sense of behaved unwisely by taking a wrong decision after succumbing to peer pressure
Also instead to man up and own up to his mistake, tried pinning blame on another, by trying to make a scapegoat out of Eve
Christianity Etc › Re: The Middle Path by MuttleyLaff: 6:00pm On Oct 22, 2017
Sarassin:
Will do, I seem to remember watching one of these ago.
You said two weeks later from the day you last physically met your friend, he took his own life,
then shortly after "he passed", your friend came to you in dream state

What came to, as your friend, in your dream state, is either:
1.) likely an appearance of a familiar spirit after your friend took his own life
2.) likely due to the escort/angel jumping the gun from not fully following the rules of probability and outcome when your friend took his own life
3.) likely imageries, about your friend who took his own life, in an innocent and incredible dream with series of strange and amazing coincidences
By the way, lucid dreams lik this, do occur from taking drugs like chantix or from wearing nicotine patches
4.) you likely experienced an anxiety dream, otherwise known as, a natural dream
The content of anxiety dreams usually is a direct reflection about something seen, watched, heard, listened to or experienced, like bereavement
and comes about as result of a want of, a struggle for, a fear of, a hope of, a hope for, a need of something or a desire you have of something/someone
Christianity Etc › Re: The Middle Path by MuttleyLaff:
Sarassin:
Today marks twenty years to the day that I lost a close friend. We met at Uni where he had walked into our residence hall and declared in that pugnacious manner that Nigerians have perfected, that, “hey, I own all of you here”, we became firm friends, we shared our meals, got sozzled together and chased women all over the place.

Life catches up with everyone and we went our separate ways, much later we ran into one another whilst headed in opposite directions, we parked, greeted each other excitedly, exchanged numbers and promised each other to get in touch and have a drink. We never did, as he drove off that day, a sense of foreboding came over me. I never saw him again, two weeks later from that day he took his own life.

That day I saw him he looked drawn, tired and empty, that glint of mischief in his eyes was gone, he was a troubled soul, I could not have imagined what intolerable strain he was under, I wished that I had pulled him aside that day into the nearest cafe or restaurant, bought him a coffee and dug beneath the veneer of surface greetings and empty promises, I came to feel that our seemingly chance meeting was preordained but that I had failed to act on divine providence, that guilt stuck with me for a long time.

Shortly after he passed my friend came to me in dream state, he radiated happiness, he inquired after me and we talked, he explained that he and he alone was responsible for his action. I asked if he had found happiness and the words he used were “unimaginably so”. When I woke up I imagined the dream was merely my subconscious massaging the feelings of guilt I had felt and I put the entire thing to the back of my mind.
Later that day, I was at the airport, I had to catch one of those interminably long flights, having checked in I went to one of the bars for my usual pre-flight cognac. I sat at the bar and the bartender began chatting with me, the usual…” going anywhere nice?” type of conversation, the next thing I knew he reached behind himself to the bar and grabbed a bottle of Chivas Regal whiskey poured a double measure into a glass, plopped a single ice cube into it and slid it across to me, before I could say anything he said “its on the house sir” I thanked him.

Later on sitting in the aircraft high above the clouds, I reflected on that singular episode. I never drank whiskey, Chivas Regal was my late friend’s favourite tipple, back then everywhere we went, Chivas Regal whiskey with a single cube of ice in it was his signature drink.

The thought occurred to me that my friend, in death as in life had not changed, ever the jester, he always had to have the last say

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ru6_MMMEc4M


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QLuFJf32Hs
Familiar spirit
or Down to Earth, as like in the above interesting "Down to Earth" movie remake of "Heaven Can Wait"
Share your thoughts after watching them please
Cracking and emotional movies
Can believe just shed tears rewatching "Heaven Can Wait" after over 30 years first watching it
"I am a black man, am a black man. Thank God am a black man again..." in Down to Earth was lit

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