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GodsMopol:SMH Some are so silly scared of facing the truth, they've become no better than a Pharisee and so effectively turned into a far-to-see. They resort to putting unnecessary burdens on others and if they aren't imposing tithes, they are insisting on speaking in unintelligible languages also or otherwise called speaking in tongues |
asuustrike2009:Do not cut the hair at the sides of your head or clip off the edges of your beard - Leviticus 19:27 Not for decoration indeed. I bet you keep Leviticus 19:27 too, abi? I thought my eyes were deceiving me, when I read your pretext I repeat the question, except being an Israelite, tell where God asks you or others to give Him tithes? |
asuustrike2009:Tell, except being an Israelite where God asks to give Him tithes asuustrike2009:I guess, you keep ALL His "commandments" |
GodsMopol:Really? Wouldn't the people understand if the pastor speaks in known tongues Better still, interprete or get interpretation if speaking in an unknown tongue GodsMopol:What is tongues in all those contexts? GodsMopol:Makes fishers of men become more worthwhile doesn't it? |
UmarIbnShittu:Oh yeah, please elaborate and tell more about how precisely and exactly this is done |
analice107:Well, it's no skin off my nose Besides, it was the least of my concerns and whatever floats his boat |
analice107:My sister the misconception must have rubbed off the thread's title We are now oscillating from Misconception About Tongues to Misconception of Gender |
bloodofthelamb:How many times was speaking in tongues recorded in the bible? Why did it have to happen at those particular times? What were the core objectives it was aiming to achieve? It is not OK, to miss answering all the questions Though its objectives that were asked, good attempt, tried with giving just one (i.e. salvation) |
UmarIbnShittu:If you believed that, then you've been had by your friends They've said things that are not true and caused you to believe all UmarIbnShittu:I dont like football either, at least not enough to be cheering a team. Never mind, it doesnt matter, as I was going to pull you up on the team spirit, you know the one that turns games around, ginger football players up and wins matches for the team UmarIbnShittu:You've lost me this is why you need to explain it, so we can be on the same page or same footing I want to see it, how you see it. I want to know it, how you know it UmarIbnShittu:To perform miracles? What sort of miracles? Give a list of the miracles |
UmarIbnShittu:Anytime, I can be online at the drop of a hat We dont want you being grouchy tomorrow for lack of a good night sleep, or do we now Have a good night bro |
bloodofthelamb:Good but how many times was speaking in tongues recorded in the bible Why did it have to happen at those particular times? What were the core objectives it was aiming to achieve? bloodofthelamb:I know you meant to type Stephen instead of Timothy bloodofthelamb:Dont be too hard on yourself, Jesus, Paul and others, also are known to paraphrase scripture in manner or style you've just done |
bloodofthelamb:What is the meaning of your "THE GENUINE TONGUE OF THE HOLY SPIRIT" wording? Also share how you and then how does one or how can one "PRAY IN THE SPIRIT"? |
UmarIbnShittu:Is this the joke of the day? Never mind. Are you into football, have you got a favorite team you regularly cheer or root for? UmarIbnShittu:I asked you share examples, describing what you know "speaking in tongues" to be but you responded with "... code language" and then after that, you lost me OK. Share examples, describing and explaining what "... code language" is What is this "... code language" for? |
bloodofthelamb:You want to teach big momma how to suck eggs bloodofthelamb:I couldnt contain it, my emotions got the better of me |
UmarIbnShittu:Sorry about that. OK, what do you know about "speaking in tongues"? What to your understanding and interpretation does "speaking in tongues" mean? Share examples, describing you've seen or what you know "speaking in tongues" to be |
bloodofthelamb:What is the "THE GENUINE TONGUE OF THE HOLY SPIRIT"? How do you and/or does one "PRAY IN THE SPIRIT"? |
UmarIbnShittu:Very good question but you'll first, have to say what you mean by "speaking in tongues" in no uncertain terms |
UmarIbnShittu:GodsMopol wouldn't mind me saying, go ahead |
GodsMopol:I don't think you are yet because I haven't even started GodsMopol:There isn't any thing head-scratching about the bolded brother Have a go at these, make the attempt, won't matter, even if it's feeble 1.) Tell why there was the need for the Spirit to give them utterance so they can speak in another language? 2.) Tell what the identity is of the targeted listeners? 3.) Tell how is one to pray in the spirit? Tell how does one pray in the spirit? Describe examples of praying in the spirit |
GodsMopol:I will respond to the above, in detail, later, so for now, do you really understand the below reproduced, it's slightly edited, and a bit different from my earlier remark? One can pray in tongues, IN CONJUNCTION with praying in the spirit One can also pray in tongues IN CONJUNCTION with praying OFF the spirit Do you understand, the implication of the remark; the spirit is willing but the flesh is weak |
GodsMopol:Now you're beginning to talk Though tongues has previously been somehow explained above, I will add that tongues simply is language. One can pray in the spirit and one can, also pray out of the spirit. One can pray in tongues IN CONJUNCTION with praying in the spirit One can also pray in tongues IN CONJUNCTION with praying out of the spirit One can pray in the spirit audibly or pray in the spirit inaudibly, like doing it under one's breath An example of the latter, is Hannah's, the mother of Samuel praying This is just the tip of an iceberg, there are a gamut of others we haven't brought up for example: haven't touched groans, groaning, sighing, haven't touched why were those three occurrences of speaking in tongues, haven't touched what prompted them happening, what was the objective for them happening etcetera but I think you're slowly beginning to get the drift |
GodsMopol:Scurry away, run with your tail dangling between your legs Take note and make it a good notice of James 3:1 |
GodsMopol:JW ko, JW ni. Answer this to see how ridiculous your stance is. Did Jesus, in your manner of reasoning, pray in tongues? You've just embarrassingly made a right dog's dinner of all those scriptures featured in your original and last post. It is a pitiful sight to bear and read. |
GodsMopol:Wasn't it you that opened this thread. You've lost the bottle and the will to defend your write up, you have to resort to alter ego to try bail you out GodsMopol:For if you have the ability to speak in tongues, you will be talking only to God, since people won't be able to understand you You will be speaking by the power of the Spirit, but it will all be mysterious. - 1 Corinthians 14:2 But you, beloved, building up yourselves in your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Spirit, - Jude 1:20 14For if I pray in tongues, my spirit is praying, but I don't understand what I am saying. 15Well then, what shall I do? I will pray in the spirit, and I will also pray in words I understand I will sing in the spirit, and I will also sing in words I understand. - 1 Corinthians 14:14-15 It is very unfortunate that someone like you is quoting scriptures out of context |
GodsMopol:7In wonder and amazement, they asked, “Are not all these men who are speaking Galileans? 8How is it then that each of us hears them in his own native language? 9Parthians, Medes, and Elamites; residents of Mesopotamia, Judea and Cappadocia, Pontus and Asia,a 10Phrygia and Pamphylia, Egypt and the parts of Libya near Cyrene; visitors from Rome, 11both Jews and converts to Judaism; Cretans and Arabs —we hear them declaring the mighty works of God in our own tongues! - Acts 2:8-11 If speaking in tongues is not language only, then man is not a human-being only Tongues is a synonym for languages Speaking in tongues is a phrase that has exactly the same meaning as other words like language, patios, pidgin, broken english, ibo, hausa etcetera Jews then, no matter how far flung in the world they are living, must, as a matter of duty, travel to Jerusalem, to celebrate at its temple three feasts, These three feasts namely are: Passover, Pentecost and the Feast of Tabernacles At the Pentecost feast, which is 7 weeks after the Passover feast celebration, is when and where these Jewish pilgrims, as in, Jews living outside Israel, that had far and wide journeyed down from every part of the world, heard Jews with Galilean accent, not just speaking in the Jewish pilgrims diasporas' various and own native languages but also heard these Jews with Galilean accent telling about the miracles that God has done, in their diasporas' various own languages GodsMopol:14Then Peter stood up with the Eleven, raised his voice and addressed the crowd: “Fellow Jews and all of you who live in Jerusalem, let me explain this to you; listen carefully to what I say. 15These people are not drunk, as you suppose. It’s only nine in the morning! 16No, this is what was spoken by the prophet Joel: - Acts 2:14-16 Peter rightly corrected those folks, who incidentally, were fellow Jews and all who live in Jerusalem, that what they heard was the Gospel GodsMopol:26Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered. 27And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God - Romans 8:26-27 Whatever you believe, be open to being wrong that the Bible linked tongues to prayer than preaching Dont worry about being wrong because sometimes, wrong helps us find the right Romans 8:26-27 doesnt in the slightest indicate or suggest that tongues was said to be used for praying I am sorry to say, you're wrong on this one too The prevalent status quo view on "speaking in tongues" aka speaking in languages which most are raised with and forced to believe is incorrect because of the faulty understanding it is based on |
Sarassin:Your one too many cat piss jokes pissed him off Sarassin:Melo, melo, melo lafe wi Melo, melo, melo lafe so Is it retrospectively or the almost daily recurrences Suffice to say that, one is ever humbled, always, by each Before, they used to catch one off guard, only for one, to afterwards, realise, maybe a few days or months later, the meaningful coincidence Learning to be alert and conscious, helps in being cognizant of almost each, the moment each takes place, For example, yesterday for instance, out of others that occurred, one particular, was that surreal, I couldn't explain the occurrence, nor the cause I just couldnt quite put my finger on why it happened, so like you usually do, when stumped, I queried it. I am still waiting... Sarassin:Wake-up call for you for what? Your friend's misfortune plus the apparition of him was a bit of wake-up call slash water-shed moment for you? How is it that your friend's misfortune plus his apparition served or acted as a catalyst for you? What were you and where were you, before your friend's misfortune and his appeared apparition? What did your friend's misfortune and his appeared apparition drove you to or caused you, to move to? |
anitapreeti:Yahveh God formed man from the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul (i.e. living being) - Genesis 2:7 So also it has been written: "The first man Adam became into a living soul (i.e. living being);" the last Adam became a life-giving spirit (i.e. was made a quickening spirit) - 1 Corinthians 15:45 What Happens To Our Spirit And Soul After Death? There are different genres of death but that is beyond the scope of this answer to go into Simplistically, death fundamentally is separation and there is physical death and spiritual death From the moment we are born, our death-clock or clock of life starts to count down this is mainly why, earth is more properly called "the land of the dying" After this particular and inevitable death (i.e. physical death), one becomes a dead being, as opposed, a living soul The soul, not only becomes separated from the spirit it is separated from earth (i.e. from the land of the dying) and also loses all and/or any consciousness with earth (i.e. the land of the dying) and with anything in it/anybody on it With an absence of a body, the soul, no more, has any dealings with life or anything on earth (i.e. the land of the dying) 16Besides, a wide area separates us. People couldn't cross it in either direction even if they wanted to. 30The rich man replied, "No, Father Abraham! If someone comes back to them from the dead, they will turn to God and change the way they think and act.' 31Abraham answered him, "If they won't listen to Moses' [Teachings] and the Prophets, they won't be persuaded even if someone comes back to life" Luke 16:26, 30-31 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment - Hebrews 9:27 All of us must appear in front of Christ's judgment seat. Then all people will receive what they deserve for the good or evil they have done while living in their bodies - 2 Corinthians 5:10 Now what happens to the spirit and soul after death, is that the spirit, after death, always goes back to God. The soul, however, immediately after the hand of the clock of life had stopped, and which by now, has become just like a deflated balloon that totally but gradually ran out of air is transferred to a waiting station or lounge. And be not afraid of those killing the body, and are not able to kill the soul, but fear rather Him, who is able both soul and body to destroy in gehenna - Matthew 10:28 So, there, in the waiting station or lounge, the soul waits, until the call and judgement which it is waiting for, begins. |
Sarassin:"If anyone steals $50 billion or $20 billion anywhere, America will know, they will tell you where it is; it is their money" - Former President GEJ told the world while addressing the issue of "missing" $20 billion. So maybe, America will know. Sarassin:I thought as much, it likely was down to anxiety due to grief and the shock of the loss Sarassin:So this dream of your friend wasnt a one-off? Where there subsequent encounters of him or dreaming experiences of him? What made you mention him and the dream state on this thread? Sarassin:I can relate, so count me in, as it makes at least two, who dont believe in coincidences, because synchronicity has dogged me too, the vast majority of my life from the ridiculous to the sublime Sarassin:Dont know about your dead friend capable of pulling an interstellar performance but a plausible explanation is, its the inner man, otherwise known as your spirit man, that's warning or alerting your soul, otherwise known as the carnal man, via the anxiety dream, that what was dreamt about is concerning and the cause needs getting dealt with or taken care of |
walls01:It's more effort, to keep up with the truth that Jesus is God and less effort to cover it up with misguided and misleading untruth that Jesus isnt God How can people trust the harvest, unless they see seeds of truth sown? Rocky ground, where there isn't much soil? Well, our work is not the harvest, our work is to keep planting seeds of truth Truth crushed to earth, is truth still, truth that fell beside the road, and the birds came and ate it up, is truth still and like a seed, under favourable conditions, will rise again Thank you too for your time and for opened for another topic |
Splinz:37And, behold, a woman in the city, which was a sinner, when she knew that Jesus sat at meat in the Pharisee's house, brought an alabaster box of ointment, 38And stood at his feet behind him weeping, and began to wash his feet with tears, and did wipe them with the hairs of her head, and kissed his feet, and anointed them with the ointment - Luke 7:37-38 You head, I am head, everybody is head Splinz:Heads-up. Paul in a brief and clearly expressed manner, said it all, in Colossians 3:11 and Galatians 3:28 where stated, we have put on the new self, and there is no longer male or female Chrisbeks:Jesus is my favourite best and most admirable true feminist And Adam can be the most annoying, arrogant fool and ignorant tool. Being a fool, as in the noun and in the sense of behaved unwisely by taking a wrong decision after succumbing to peer pressure Also instead to man up and own up to his mistake, tried pinning blame on another, by trying to make a scapegoat out of Eve |
Sarassin:You said two weeks later from the day you last physically met your friend, he took his own life, then shortly after "he passed", your friend came to you in dream state What came to, as your friend, in your dream state, is either: 1.) likely an appearance of a familiar spirit after your friend took his own life 2.) likely due to the escort/angel jumping the gun from not fully following the rules of probability and outcome when your friend took his own life 3.) likely imageries, about your friend who took his own life, in an innocent and incredible dream with series of strange and amazing coincidences By the way, lucid dreams lik this, do occur from taking drugs like chantix or from wearing nicotine patches 4.) you likely experienced an anxiety dream, otherwise known as, a natural dream The content of anxiety dreams usually is a direct reflection about something seen, watched, heard, listened to or experienced, like bereavement and comes about as result of a want of, a struggle for, a fear of, a hope of, a hope for, a need of something or a desire you have of something/someone |
Sarassin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ru6_MMMEc4M https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QLuFJf32Hs Familiar spirit or Down to Earth, as like in the above interesting "Down to Earth" movie remake of "Heaven Can Wait" Share your thoughts after watching them please Cracking and emotional movies Can believe just shed tears rewatching "Heaven Can Wait" after over 30 years first watching it "I am a black man, am a black man. Thank God am a black man again..." in Down to Earth was lit |
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