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Christianity Etc › Re: Sarassin Versus Billyonaire by MuttleyLaff: 5:59pm On Nov 05, 2017
Sarassin:
Errm...have I done something?
You can breathe again
Good you dont haul rocks, I would have said drop them
Your caramia merely posted a passing comment
Christianity Etc › Re: There Is Energy Creator Outside The Hologram - Allah And Jehovah Not Same Entity by MuttleyLaff: 9:52am On Nov 05, 2017
Billyonaire:
Then you have not been following my threads for the past many years
Those who talk too much
usually dont know nada
and those that know, dont talk too much
Who verifiably, over the past many years, following your threads, have the content of the threads helped him/her?

Billyonaire:
My quest is not about materializing Houses, Cars, Love and Wealth,
I have everything any Human on Earth should desire already
Tell it to the marines albeit you committed a major Freudian slip
Modesty at its finest? Not

Billyonaire:
There is no fear within the physical and astral realm that can penetrate my psyche
Contradicting yourself then saying "... it's getting scarier than I planned for" arent you?

Billyonaire:
My Mission is to become Master of the Physical world, transcend death and Stop my Soul from the cycle of reincarnation,
but I also have the desire study and know how to create planets and fly ET space ship,
I guess this is too much to many. I had to tell you this so you can understand that I have surmounted fear on the lower density/dimensions.

I have gone to that point I found the Cosmic Mainframe where the Aliens (Gods) host our Souls on the Cosmic Cybernetic Computer,
and when I state this, I mean that all Souls including yours is hosted and recycled on the cycle of birth and re-birth.
I am on a journey to become a Master of the Physical World and may be when that time comes I will be given a notch on the next steps to go
Don't you have a teeny-weeny twinge of conscience alleviating the suffering and smiling, forty-nine sitting, ninety-nine standing in Naija
than flying ET space ships
Common obodo Naija you haven't mastered,
but you want to roam about in search of pleasure or amusement to create planets
There’s a fine line between ... and it usually takes a prescription to fix it, you know

Billyonaire:
When I mention fear it is not the regular fear known to normal people.
I mean the fear that grips you and destabilizes you and you know there is a strong negative energy presence and I know exactly how to cleanse my environments and how to remove all the chips embedded in everyone.
Almost everyone, except few of us, know how to remove these trace metals from our food sources.
I just spent over 20 million to construct one of the finest organic water treatment plant in this country and I designed the entire system myself, and I do it for this journey.
To eradicate the trace metals from system which nutritionists think its great for health when they do not even know that it is used for tracking of the souls based on the aura.
I do not have to explain my efforts any longer because I have found a forum in the USA where great scientists who go through similar experiences gather and just reading the pages will activate the kundalini, so please I am done trying to make people understand that I do not depend on angels and spirit guides who could possibly be working for Smart Gods in some Astral locations and showing up masquerading from the Source
SMH, I am further convinced there is more than the eyes is seeing, there certainly is more to this
Think need a psych eval, but hey, none of my business

Billyonaire:
So, do not make light of my experiences, I will try as much as possible stay close to nairaland,
but at this stage, I really do not need this place anymore.
Firstly, if you can't take the heat ... Do not tickle or poke the DRAGON Sarassin
and secondly, time to go find out the reason why plastics dont stand too close to the heater

Billyonaire:
Peace to you all.
Ditto to you too
Christianity Etc › Re: There Is Energy Creator Outside The Hologram - Allah And Jehovah Not Same Entity by MuttleyLaff:
Billyonaire:
Then of what purpose is questioning when you think you know the answers.
I can assure you do not know this. You properly have some knowledge on your level of awakening. When you go through Soul Travel and hit the singularity, you will figure out that most of the truth on the lower universes are entry points into the workings of the cosmos, and none of what you hold so dear as truth will make sense to you.

The angels and spirit guides are there to guide the sheep and chelas, but when you go beyond being s Student to becoming a Master of your own fate and life and actually interact and become conduit of Extra-terrestrials, it is a different kettle of fish.

This is the level I am talking about, and not the mental plane consciousness which most of you guys constantly probe at that level. I became the Mind in order to master it and subdue.
"become conduit of Extra-terrestrials, it is a different kettle of fish" SMH, pesin no sabi jazz, hin dey call am salad vegetable
Every constructive criticism Sarassin made, that when confronted with sharp questions, you resort to obfuscation, was right on the money


Billyonaire:
Now it is getting scarier than I planned for, and I have to pause my research and get more materialism going to stabilize myself
Why should it be scary in the first instance?
Arent you, at first contact, ever soothed with words like "Dont be afraid", "Do not fear", "Fear not" or something else in the line?

Billyonaire:
By the way, I have found a forum online where people of my like-minds are gathered to share their experiences, and I will be less present here, as this place is generating so much negative vibrations that I can no longer wish to absorbed.
Using the "Get out of jail free card" to try and get out of wink wink?
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Did Methuselah Live For 969 years? by MuttleyLaff: 7:33am On Nov 05, 2017
odurombi:
Methuselah's name and longevity of life is one that many Christians have criticized.
But can his name and existence be spared a second thought?
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Why instead of baiting, wouldnt you spare the thought of sharing the info here
and then let readers decide after reading it, if to check out your blog for more interesting and other enthralling stuff you might have
Christianity Etc › Re: There Is Energy Creator Outside The Hologram - Allah And Jehovah Not Same Entity by MuttleyLaff:
Sarassin:
I very rarely ask questions to which I do not already know the answers.
When I asked you how you came to your conclusive statement that Allah was not Jehovah, there was a method to the madness
"The important thing is not to stop questioning.
Curiosity has its own reason for existing.
One cannot help but be in awe when he contemplates the mysteries of eternity, of life, of the marvelous structure of reality.
It is enough if one tries merely to comprehend a little of this mystery every day.
Never lose a holy curiosity"

- Albert Einstein

I love asking questions when I already know the answers
Nothing is better than listening to a lie when you already know the truth.

"I have not disputed your experience that Allah is not Jehovah, to me the comparison is pointless since I believe in neither one...
asked you to explain how you came to your conclusion
and you have danced around the question like a virgin contemplating se.x for the first time
" shocked shocked grin grin

"Instead you filibustered with blustery language in the hope that you would divert attention from the substance of my questions
you then embarked on a journey of exploration of your own psychosis and insecurity.
If you prefer to keep mum then please do so, no need to trumpet that fact,
I never asked you how the universe was created, and why would I?
"
- © Sarassin

Sarassin:
Truth is, I have been where you are and beyond, when I started my other thread I gave an inkling but couched it in the vaguest of terms, those who know, know. Those who do not, simply do not need to.
People should beware of plans to tell porkies
because as they say, don't lie and/or exaggerate, unless you're absolutely sure the truth will never be found out

Sarassin:
You have asked that I use my research to unveil the identities of the entities Allah and YHWH.
But the journey is yours including the agony and the ecstasy
Well said

Sarassin:
I would do you no favours if I were to interject my experience,
but I can sign-post you
Let him be the judge of whether you would do him favours or no favours
Billyonaire Even an old cow has enough sense to eat the hay and spit out the sticks

Sarassin:
I wrote on that same thread that I had on occasion obtained knowledge at the point of extremis, what I did not state was that it was the point where you suspend life and death in the twilight between daybreak and sunrise to perform the ritual of the invocation of the deity of the burning bush.
Please pray tell, what thread is this?
Politics › Re: Adedotun Tejuoso, Funmilayo Tejuoso's Son Furious At Governor Ambode by MuttleyLaff:
Konquest:
^^^^^^^
grin grin ...The boy looks like his dad, Prince Lanre Tejuoso who is a serving Senator.
His facial looks - eyes and all look like his father's.
You will soon be deported back to Somalia with this your Somali name of FarahAideed for insulting Tinubu and Sen. Tejuoso... grin
Prince Kayode Tejuosho, aka "KayTej" is his dad and not Prince Lanre Tejuoso
Prince Lanre Tejuoso is his father's elder brother
His facial looks - eyes and all look like his uncle's and not his father's
Christianity Etc › Re: There Is Energy Creator Outside The Hologram - Allah And Jehovah Not Same Entity by MuttleyLaff: 9:11pm On Nov 03, 2017
Sarassin:
Hello Hayoholla, well pseudo-science is what it is, open to vagaries. I have not asked the OP to dissect his research I merely asked him to clarify the title of his thread, his absolute statement that Allah is NOT YHWH. If I am not wrong, his statement implies that he has made an empirical study and arrived at that conclusion, he was most emphatic, OP did not say “he thinks Allah is not YHWH” or he “believes that Allah is not YHWH” he made a clear unequivocal statement. It was not beyond the realms of imagination that somebody asks him to justify his stance.

As you can see from the ensuing dissembling, rambling and prevarication he could provide no tangible response and subsequently went into melt-down. I do not think language was a problem here.

You asked me to look into a book by David Icke, regrettably I will not be taking you up on your invitation.
I was here in England in the early 90’s when David Icke made his debut on Breakfast TV in his ill-fitting shell suit claiming that the Queen of England, the Prime Minsister and the politicians were all reptilians from another planet masquerading as humans.
He was a clown then and he is still a clown now albeit one with a follower-ship,
I never took him seriously then, and I am not about to start now.
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Christianity Etc › Re: There Is Energy Creator Outside The Hologram - Allah And Jehovah Not Same Entity by MuttleyLaff: 8:54am On Oct 31, 2017
shadeyinka:
Hello Sir
I perceive that you were a student of Theology.
Your writings glaringly betrays that.
Theologians are more interested in the Academics of religion rather than "Faith" (my opinion).
Don't let anyone capture you with empty philosophies and high-sounding nonsense
that come from human thinking and from the spiritual powers of this world, rather than from Christ

- Colossians 2:8

And when the woman saw that the tree (i.e. the tree of the knowledge of good and evil) was good for food,
and that it was pleasant to the eyes,
and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat,
and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat

- Genesis 3:6

You give theologians a bad name
Theology, essentially is tracking God
Theologians, at the start, all, are in pursuit of information, the knowledge of God
The knowledge of God and wisdom (i.e. decisions making done) are known to be deliberately interfered with, when led down false trail(s) by hunt saboteur(s)

shadeyinka:
Can you open a new thread and write on this!?
Deliverance, Demons and Hypnotism

I'll like to know how theologians deal with these issues
The good, the bad and the ugly?
Sarassin's profile, his opened threads and posted comments should suffice
Christianity Etc › Re: There Is Energy Creator Outside The Hologram - Allah And Jehovah Not Same Entity by MuttleyLaff: 2:03am On Oct 31, 2017
Sarassin:
I disagree with parts of your submission.
EL actually stood as the name of the Canaanite supreme deity, he was worshipped as EL it is this precise attribute that has been borrowed and transposed to the Abrahamic faiths,
i.e the use of the term El for God.
It stood initially as a name like Yam, Mot, Anat and others and has latterly come to be a generic term for God
In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth
- Genesis 1:1

I beg to differ with all parts of your submission
God, is God, is El, before the darling Canaanite supreme deity
God, is God, is El, before the Abrahamic faiths
Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM

God, (i.e. El), in a pure manner but using a definition lacking sophistication, merely means Power or Influence.
Meanwhile if there is Good Power or bad power, Good Influence and bad influence(s)
It's not far fetched to say, El is used for the true God or false gods,

Sarassin:
Strictly speaking from an etymological point of view the prophets of YHWH ascribed a lot of the attributes of El to YHWH. I gave the examples of “Ancient of Days” which was the Canaanite description of their supreme deity El and the concept of the Divine council. The worship of the consort of YHWH persisted into the days of the second Jerusalem temple where Asherah, initially the consort of El had been transposed into the consort of YHWH and had a statue in the said temple. It is clear that early Hebrews vacillated between the worship of El and YHWH.
For instance Jacob wrestles with the angel of God, he gathers a few stones to lay his head on to sleep and in the morning he names the spot Beth-El, not Beth-Yah
Who do you think the Angel of God is?
Jacob named the spot appropriately, by calling the spot, House of God
He would have been unduly forward namimg the spot House of Yah
The patriarchs dont know God (i.e. El) well enough to be resorting to calling God (i.e. El) by His personal or first name
or be naming spots after God using God's personal or first name
Familiarity breeds contempt

Sarassin:
The tetragrammaton YHWH is exactly that, a non-descript place-holder for the personal name of the Hebrew deity that is so holy it is buried deep in Jewish esoterica.
The true name of the Hebrew deity is considered so holy as to be unutterable by the great unwashed, the other consideration of course was that if the name of their all-powerful deity got into the hands of their enemies, he could be invoked against them too!
Point being very few Christians if any know the true name of the deity they worship
So on point

There is something about wanting to know the proper name of God
Three times God was asked about his proper personal or first name, three times He was evasive
Jacob, Moses and Manoah tried
but each time and/or on all ocassions He is asked, God, doesn't and/or never divulges His proper name

shadeyinka:
I perfectly agree with you on this
I perfectly agree with him on it too

Jacob and Manoah got the "Why do you ask of my name" responses back

Moses initially got a "I AM WHO I AM" response
but then this soon got refined to "I AM (i.e. "I am" or "I will be" or "I shall be" )
when God said to Moses:
"Thus you shall say to the sons of Israel, I AM has sent me to you"

Sarassin:
Muslims say that their Allah is not YHWH,
Christians too state that YHWH is not Allah
but both claim their deity is an almighty one, both cannot be right.
Neither religious claims to an almighty God is more valid than the other even though each vehemently claims otherwise.
Shall we, just say, let sleeping dogs lie
Christianity Etc › Re: The Essential Doctrines For All Christians To Believe by MuttleyLaff: 11:11pm On Oct 30, 2017
walls01:
Galatians 1:8-9 but though we or an angel from heaven preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you let him be accursed
No man can curse what God has blessed!
And whom God has blessed, no one can curse
You can't curse what God has blessed!
The Devil can't curse what God has blessed!
You haven't the power to curse whom and what God has blessed.

Jesus is God, whether you believe it or not

I declare that Jesus was born, as God Amighty, in the flesh
but your declaration is the misguided notion that Jesus was born, as an ordinary man, promoted to a God status

walls01:
imagine you saying Jesus projected out of God to take a scroll out of his hands
walls01:
6Then I saw a Lamb, looking as if it had been slain,
standing at the center of the throne, encircled by the four living creatures and the elders.
The Lamb had seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven spirits of God sent out into all the earth.
7He went and took the scroll from the right hand of him who sat on the throne

- Revelation 5:6-7

if you read Rev 5:6-7 it shows Jesus the Lamb taking a scroll our of God hand,
clearly this is not your double God
You've carelessly forgotten that
"Jesus projected out of God to take the scroll out of His hands"
was in response to the reproduced above quote and it's bolded highlights of yours

My exact words are:
"It's just projection brother
This is a case of Jesus the Lamb, projecting out of God to take the scroll
"

And he said,
Thou canst not see my face:
for there shall no man see me, and live

- Exodus 33:20

He is the only one who cannot die. He lives in light that no one can come near.
No one has seen him, nor can they see him.
Honor and power belong to him forever! Amen

- 1 Timothy 6:16

No one has ever seen God.
But the unique One, who is himself God, is near to the Father's heart.
He has revealed God to us

- John 1:18

You flagrantly plucked up Revelation 5:6-7 with no regard for context
It's pitiful to watch how poorly you've been doing in this thread
It looks to me that when you're not dodging ducking and diving from answering questions
you change to catching at straws by dropping frivolous verses

Don't try to understand everything brother.
Sometimes everything is not meant to be understood, just accepted.
Do you know everything about your iPad? No
Do you know about all the interrelated parts of your Benz? No
You just accept the iPad for what it is and using it
You just accept the Merc for what it is and just driving it about or around

JESUS is God. Whether you understand or not, just accept
Mindful of Exodus 33:20, 1 Timothy 6:16 and John 1:18 above,
isnt it a consolation, having Jesus, the closest, anyone will ever get to see God korokoro

John, was in Revelation Chapter 4 and Chapter 5, giving a narrative of events and what he saw when he was in the spirit
It was an experience in the spirit realm and not an outright physical experience

2And at once I was in The Spirit, and behold a throne fixed in Heaven, and upon the throne sat He;
3And He who sat was as the likeness of the appearance of Jasper red quartz stone and of red and white Sardius,
and a rainbow of the clouds which encircled the throne was like the appearance of an emerald;

- Revelation 4:2-3

Notice in Revelation 4:2-3, the peculiar description of He who sat on the throne
No physical descriptions, just splendour and the glory are described

Why dont you read Revelation chapter 4 and Revelation chapter 5
The scroll? a strong angel? But no one in heaven or on earth or under the earth could open the scroll or even look inside it?
Revelation 5:1-7? What an emotional read
Christianity Etc › Re: Integrity Of The Gospels by MuttleyLaff: 10:22pm On Oct 29, 2017
Gombs:
How did i miss this thread oooo? grin grin grin
Thats what getting engaged and pulling that Onitsha Mall stunt does,
you not only miss threads like that, you also turn into MIA that you've now become grin grin grin
Christianity Etc › Re: The Middle Path by MuttleyLaff: 10:03pm On Oct 29, 2017
LoJ:
grin grin
Just a few pieces of advice. First limit your petitions to max 2 per week. It is more effective so, in my opinion.

Second, struggle to have the purest of intent in petitioning angels.
These are creatures of high vibration, and they tend to disregard anything that is base.
So dont think too much about having so much money to slay em queens, but think more in terms of personal development.

Finally, the law of polarity has it that everything has positive and negative sides.
So be careful what you wish. Good luck
Or learn your lesson the "genie" stuff hard way
Dont wish you were white and surrounded by beautiful women.
Dont be like the guy who wished for his dick to touch the ground.
Dont be like the guy whose wish to make passionate love to the genie was declined, and so then asked, "How about a little head?"
Or dont be like the guy who to "I can grant you one wish", replied, "No sh!t"
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Can Answer This Question About The Birth Of Jesus by MuttleyLaff: 7:45pm On Oct 29, 2017
adepeter2027:
Since you're not yet done, I gat nothing to tell you.

But when you're done, let me know, then we can continue
The ball is in your court
You're the DJ, put the vinyl, let the music play
Christianity Etc › Re: What If Eve Was The Only One That Ate The Forbidden Fruit? by MuttleyLaff: 7:17pm On Oct 29, 2017
Oloruntobi4382:
Yahweh has been defeated!
Because God's children are human beings
--made of flesh and blood--the Son also became flesh and blood.
For only as a human being could He die,
and only by dying could he break the power of the devil, who had the power of death.

- Hebrews 2:14
Christianity Etc › Re: What If Eve Was The Only One That Ate The Forbidden Fruit? by MuttleyLaff: 6:59pm On Oct 29, 2017
Oloruntobi4382:
Mumu Yahweh.
Life has been better, all thanks to the serpent. cool
But just as it is written,
"Things that no eye has seen, or ear heard, or mind imagined, are the things God has prepared for those who love Him."

- 1 Corinthians 2:9

"Life has been better ..." is a belief based on grandiose delusion
"....all thanks to the serpent" is mistaken trust and misplaced loyalty
Christianity Etc › Re: What If Eve Was The Only One That Ate The Forbidden Fruit? by MuttleyLaff: 6:42pm On Oct 29, 2017
Oloruntobi4382:
If i see that fruit again, i go chop am wella
Some people create their own storms, then get upset when it rains
Chop am wella nau, then come go play the victim to the circumstances you created
Christianity Etc › Re: What If Eve Was The Only One That Ate The Forbidden Fruit? by MuttleyLaff:
cutebobo:
Have you ever wonder if it was only Eve that ate the forbidden fruit,
Eating the forbidden fruit is double entendre.
One of the meanings, is straightforward obvious,
but as for the other, given the same context, requires more line of thinking, which is beyond the scope of answering thread & OP's question

cutebobo:
would God have created another female
God had gone past the stage of creating human beings the manner He created Adam and Eve
The further creating of male or female had been passed on or handed over to human beings legally resident on earth
so, No, God would not and never have created another female

cutebobo:
kill Eve,
Why would God kill an already dead human being?
Wasnt Eve, the moment she ate off the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil, living on already borrowed time?

cutebobo:
create another world of suffering for only Eve
Why cant God be given some credit?
God is not sadist to be creating other world of suffering for anyone
Each create, own's world of suffering. Each make the choice

cutebobo:
or what would have happened?
If Adam had managed to not have succumbed to pressure, nothing, except to Eve, would have happened
If he had managed to resist the temptation of taking the fruit handed to him by Eve
and followingly, not eat off the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil
then nothing else, except Eve's unavoidable, would happen

An2elect2:
Eve and Adam were one, they both make up Adam.
There was no way Adam (half of the one) wouldn't have eaten the fruit, it was just a matter of time
And God saw every thing that He had made, and, behold, it was very good.
And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

- Genesis 1:31

"... was good", as in the good adjective, wasnt used for nor used after Adam and Eve were created
this is unlike the six "... was good" that were used after each of the other creations that spanned the six days

Adam and Eve, only received some semblance or accolade of "good", courtsey of a collective acknowledgement of merit
and that Genesis 1:31's "...was very good" wasnt saying that Adam and Eve individually, were good and so created perfect
but that, the whole creation idea, as a whole, with Adam and Eve in it, was very good

So yes, potentially and with a matter of time, Adam could have, would have, might have eaten
and also Adam could have, would have, might have done the complete opposite.

Anyway the proof of the pudding was in the eating,
and now we are familiar with the outcome and in the know of what happened after eating

chemystery:
My brother, there is nothing to wonder there.
Even animals that didn't even eat the fruit are still inflicted with same curse.

So, no matter what the plot is, the theme has already been fixed by the ancient cavemen who wrote the bible with the motive of trying to explain the mysteries surrounding the world
24And God said,
“Let the earth bring forth living creatures according to their kinds
—livestock and creeping things and beasts of the earth according to their kinds.”
And it was so.
25And God made the beasts of the earth according to their kinds and the livestock according to their kinds,
and everything that creeps on the ground according to its kind.
And God saw that it was good


And unto Adam he said,
Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife,
and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying,
Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake;
in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life;

- Genesis 3:17

ROTBL, chemystery and his modest take.
Everything came out of the ground, as a matter of fact, Adam himself, too was made out from earth
Now, let's mutually agree that animals, the whole shebang, at God's command, the ground produced each or them all.
So, Adam, surely, must have done something heinous, other than just mere eating of fruit, for the ground getting cursed because of him

Bolaji21:
The salvation of mankind wouldn't have required the ultimate price.
When Adam sinned, sin entered the world.
Adam's sin brought death, so death spread to everyone, for everyone sinned.

- Romans 5:12

So you see, just as death came into the world through a man,
now the resurrection from the dead has begun through another man

- 1 Corinthians 15:21

The salvation of mankind wouldn't have being required
and paying the ultimate price would be unneccesary because Adam's genome hasnt been tainted
How human genome works is public knowledge
And scientists have since discovered, that we look more like our dads but are more related to our mums.

Off topic, genomes, includes chromosomes, the genes (i.e. the coding regions) and the non coding DNA
The body is constantly making more blood cells, so blood is a renewable genome resource.
The necessity, of the precious blood of Christ, in a sinful world, (i.e. missed the target/missed the aim world) becomes visibly apparent

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2977710/People-genetically-like-fathers-mothers-Scientists-discover-use-paternal-DNA.html

Bolaji21:
Man might have been able to atone for woman.
But since both fell and all their descendants by extension, another man was needed to restore (Jesus).
"...another man was needed to restore (Jesus)" is sound, deep and heavy
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Can Answer This Question About The Birth Of Jesus by MuttleyLaff:
adepeter2027:
Are you done?
Think about why you started this thread
Don't try to be what you're not, boring others with puerile posts

Don't start something that you can't finish
Don't start a fight if you can't quench it.

No, I am not done, if I hear music, my feet start moving
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Can Answer This Question About The Birth Of Jesus by MuttleyLaff: 1:22pm On Oct 29, 2017
adepeter2027:
You just contradicted yourself below
Here is the contradiction
You're just convoluting everything and contradicting yourself.
You're out of your depth
You need a life jacket, you're in water too deep to stand in and you cant swim

adepeter2027:
Anyways, why is it not necessary?
You really dont seem to understand, isnt it?
Your low understanding of the bible or biblical verses, seriously, is a major handicap
It makes and will make progress on this thread, with you, difficult

adepeter2027:
Shey the Bible said God same yesterday, today and forever?
Furthermore, if it wasn't necessary, why are plasters still casting demons and marine spirits cos to me, they should be unnecessary too.
I know you meant to type "pastors" instead of "plasters"
You're mixing things up
Salvation, which is God's objective, achieved through Jesus and "casting demons and marine spirits"
are separate things and they each, are as different to each other, as chalk and cheese are

adepeter2027:
You said nothing. Instead, you Just piled up biblical verses
Sorry if you're biased to the bible
and dont understand or cant comprehend biblical verses

adepeter2027:
You still haven't answered the question raised.
Why would Mary defiled normal means of pregnancy
When the Holy Spirit came on Mary, and the power of the Most High overshadowed her, she defiled normal means of pregnancy by not having her egg fertilised by a human being but fertilised by the Holy Spirit
Re-read Matthew 1:18-21, it has the gist

adepeter2027:
but never or cannot defiled normal route of delivery
If John 10:1, is not useful and informative enough for you, to know why she never, cannot and would not defile the normal route of delivery,
then I dont know what else will

adepeter2027:
Supernatural starting should follow supernatural paths.
I'm waiting pls
You're pretending that you understand thing(s) when you dont
Its obvious your strength is small, you can't carry heavy weights, so please, what's your point in waiting?
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Can Answer This Question About The Birth Of Jesus by MuttleyLaff:
adepeter2027:
Good morning to you all,
Below is a conversation between me and a Christian lady. I'm seeking sensible answer to the questions raised.

I asked someone that, on what percentage can we actually believe Mary the mother of jesus wasn't penetrated by Joseph.

Her response was "100%".

Then I asked why 100%

She said cos the Bible said so.

Then I asked again, what if the Bible is/was lying

She said the Bible can never lie.
The bible tells it as it is

adepeter2027:
Then I asked her, can you become pregnant without any man coming close to you?

She became mute. Later responded non-affirmatively
Cant explain why she was mute and got stumped

adepeter2027:
Then I asked why?

She said cos it's impossible.
I am glad she got her voice back
Exactly, it's impossible

adepeter2027:
Then I asked her, do you believe god is same yesterday, today and forever?

She said yes.

Then I asked, why don't you believe what happened to Mary can happen to you since god is unchangeable.

She became mute again
What happened to Mary can happen to her
but it will never happen because it is unneccesary, there is no need for it to happen again

adepeter2027:
Then I asked her, why was Jesus own unique and different?

She said cos Jesus was divine.

Then I asked her, if Jesus was different
and Mary could become pregnant without been penetrated,

how come did Jesus come out through the vagina and never through the ANUS or mouth?

She couldn't answer the question. Please, anybody with answer or explanation

CC lalasticlala
18This is how the birth of Jesus Christ came about:
His mother Mary was pledged in marriage to Joseph,
but before they came together, she was found to be with Child through the Holy Spirit.
19Because Joseph her husband, a righteous man,
was unwilling to disgrace her publicly, he resolved to divorce her quietly.
20But after he had pondered these things,
an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream and said,
“Joseph, son of David, do not be afraid to take Mary as your wife,
for the One conceived in her is from the Holy Spirit.
21She will give birth to a son, and you shall give Him the name Jesus,
because He will save His people from their sins.”

- Matthew 1:18-21

Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold,
but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.

- John 10:1

Protocols and all, have to be adhered to,
and so, that's why, within the legitimate and permissible, Jesus came through the vagina and never through the ANUS or mouth
John 10:1, is the other reason, why He entered by that door and did not climb in by any other way
Christianity Etc › Re: The Essential Doctrines For All Christians To Believe by MuttleyLaff: 8:02pm On Oct 28, 2017
elvisgaga:
MuttleyLaff and Analice107, plz explain 1Corinthians 15 :27-28 which reads:

1 Corinthians 15:27-28 New International Version (NIV)
27For he “has put everything under his feet.”
Now when it says that “everything” has been put under him,
it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ.
28When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all.
God has put Jesus in charge of everything
Jesus is answerable, ONLY to God, who put Him in charge
This way, God is in control, as He is kept in the loop
Christianity Etc › Re: The Essential Doctrines For All Christians To Believe by MuttleyLaff: 12:32pm On Oct 28, 2017
walls01:
my friend stop trying to shove this rubbish in my throat.
what do you mean by the truth
The truth you are hiding from

walls01:
it is clear throughout the Bible who Jesus is
but you misinterpreted, misquoted the Bible, saying God sent himself
but Jesus did not send himself
but you said God and Jesus is one being how confused you are
Who, according to walls01's understanding, is Jesus?
Please walls01, is Jesus an ordinary man
or is Jesus God personified

walls01:
my brother let us discuss a topic you understand
and not this again also stop dropping last comment words to drive home your misunderstanding. thank you
I can only discuss and tell you the truth.
I cant make you believe it brother
Christianity Etc › Re: Opele Ifa Divination History: Opele Divination In My Shrine [video][pics] by MuttleyLaff: 12:17pm On Oct 28, 2017
Ishilove:
I have a feeling Babalawos is a funky young man who wears jeans and tshirt,
drives a Mercedes Benz and is very Y2k compliant.
He is the sort of person that you will never have an inkling of his profession by merely looking at him. grin

Digital babalawo cheesy
https://i68.tinypic.com/14igydg.jpg
Christianity Etc › Re: Is The Hebrew Monotheistic Belief A Product Of Religious Syncretism? by MuttleyLaff: 6:24pm On Oct 27, 2017
Christianity Etc › Re: Invitation Card To Visit Nigeria For Divine Healing. by MuttleyLaff: 11:12pm On Oct 26, 2017
bloodofthelamb:
YOU DON'T NEED TO COME TO NIGERIA FOR YOUR DELIVERANCE...
FOR, YOU CAN AND WILL BE MADE FREE IN YOUR COUNTRY...

CHRIST JESUS IS OUR DELIVERANCE AND DELIVERER.
BELIEVE THIS AND DECLARE IT,
THEN YOU WILL BE FREE FROM EVERY DEMONIC SPIRIT
For I, Yahveh, your God will hold your right hand,
saying unto you, Fear not; I will help you


A man named Jack was walking along a steep cliff one day, when he accidentally got too close to the edge and fell.
On the way down he grabbed a branch, which temporarily stopped his fall.
He looked down and to his horror saw that the canyon fell straight down for more than a thousand feet.

He couldn't hang onto the branch forever, and there was no way for him to climb up the steep wall of the cliff.
So Jack began yelling for help, hoping that someone passing by would hear him and lower a rope or something.

HELP! HELP! Is anyone up there? "HELP!"

He yelled for a long time, but no one heard him.
He was about to give up when he heard a voice. Jack, Jack. Can you hear me?"

"Yes, yes! I can hear you. I'm down here!"

"I can see you, Jack. Are you all right?"

"Yes, but who are you, and where are you?

"I am the Lord, Jack. I'm everywhere."

"The Lord? You mean, GOD?"

"That's Me."

"God, please help me! I promise if, you'll get me down from here, I'll stop sinning.
I'll be a really good person. I'll serve You for the rest of my life."

"Easy on the promises, Jack. Let's get you off from there; then we can talk."

"Now, here's what I want you to do. Listen carefully."

"I'll do anything, God. Just tell me what to do."

"Okay. Let go of the branch."

"What?!!!"

"I said, let go of the branch. Just trust Me. Let go."

There was a long silence.

Finally Jack yelled,
"HELP! HELP! IS ANYONE ELSE UP THERE?"

The following morning a local mountain rescue team arrived only to find the man dead.
He had frozen to death, his hands on the branch, hanging just a few inches from the ground

COPIED & PASTED
Christianity Etc › Re: These Men Are Drunk With Wine- The Misconception About Tongues by MuttleyLaff: 10:21pm On Oct 26, 2017
UmarIbnShittu:
I going on hibernation till tomorrow Insha Allah
Good night then my friend
Christianity Etc › Re: These Men Are Drunk With Wine- The Misconception About Tongues by MuttleyLaff: 10:18pm On Oct 26, 2017
GodsMopol:
Its not incantation, shittu
You're right, it is not incantation
Incantation is a learner compared with that celebrated gibberish
There is nothing theopneustic about it

GodsMopol:
Okay, there are two types of churches
And I say also unto thee,
That thou art Peter, a small rock
and upon the large rock I will build my congregation (i.e. Gr. ekklesia – called out ones),
and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against her

- Matthew 16:18

There is one church. There is one ecclesia. There is one called out ones

GodsMopol:
Not all churches speaks in tongues
They must be tongue-tied or mute, if they dont
Or maybe they use sign language then (i.e. sign tongue). SMH

GodsMopol:
If a tongue speaking pastor goes to a non tongue talking church, he might not really have much freedom to speak in tongues
Why might he not really have much freedom to speak in tongues?
Is he in midst of a deaf and dumb congregation?

GodsMopol:
If a pastor comes around me, I can perceive the presence of God around them and I know who he is, if otherwise, I know also, or someone around says it, that's in a spirit filled tongue talking settings
You must have gone off of your rocker

GodsMopol:
There is one thing about the Holy Spirit, he's one, I can watch a station and I can tell if this man was anointed or not
It doesnt matter if the man was anointed or not
because you just chew the hay, and spit out the sticks, with the help of the Holy Spirit

Anointed or not, just chew the meat but spit out bones

GodsMopol:
There is more to speaking in tongues but I really wkdjyi can explain this things
Delusional thinking

GodsMopol:
The Bible said, spiritual things are foolishness to the natural man,
its like explaining geology to a dentist, he's not cut out for such, ....
Jesus answered and said unto him,
Art thou the teacher of Israel, and understandest not these things?

- John 3:10

LISTEN & SILENT are spelled with the same letters
I dont need to tell you to think about it,
so farabale and listen, as you might learn something genuine, new and more powerful

GodsMopol:
... and I have quitted the thread
If you can't stand heat, wonder why you got all, with you into the kitchen.
Yeah you better run and hide, if your strength is small, and you cant handle or lift heavy weights
Christianity Etc › Re: These Men Are Drunk With Wine- The Misconception About Tongues by MuttleyLaff: 10:09pm On Oct 26, 2017
UmarIbnShittu:
Hummmm
Glad you know your farts stinks
Christianity Etc › Re: These Men Are Drunk With Wine- The Misconception About Tongues by MuttleyLaff: 8:20pm On Oct 26, 2017
Christianity Etc › Re: These Men Are Drunk With Wine- The Misconception About Tongues by MuttleyLaff: 8:02pm On Oct 26, 2017
UmarIbnShittu:
Ur a lady right
My gender is inconsequential
Christianity Etc › Re: These Men Are Drunk With Wine- The Misconception About Tongues by MuttleyLaff:
UmarIbnShittu:
it's a military word
For all I know you might be chanting incantation
but if you say so, then I see
and might OK then, add it to my arsenal or collection of weapons

UmarIbnShittu:
It means good mood
Hmm. Interesting.
Never stop learning. You learn something new every day

UmarIbnShittu:
U. R too inquisitive
I was trained plus learned to be like that

Lesson to learn about inquisitiveness
(i.e. lesson to learn, if you don't ask questions)
He who asks a question is ignorant for a minute.
He who does not ask, remains ignorant for life.

UmarIbnShittu:
do you interrogate criminal suspect
Yes, I do interrogate criminal suspect(s) and all
Christianity Etc › Re: These Men Are Drunk With Wine- The Misconception About Tongues by MuttleyLaff: 5:43pm On Oct 26, 2017
UmarIbnShittu:
u r killing my morrah
I am not familiar with this phrase.
What is morrah?
How do you mean I am killing your morrah?

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