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johnw47:
mutt
he never said that, twister and know all nothing

MuttleyLaff:
johnw47, it is MuttleyLaff to you, and not mutt. Dont distort the import of the ID by altering/cutting/truncating it.

Look at whose defence you've come to talk out of both sides of the mouth. One second, it's "... Enoch's walking ... is not mine to receive" and the next second, changed tune to "I have to walk ... like Enoch ..."

It is glaring he said all that and it isn't twisting that he and you, know all nothing, smh sigh.

johnw47:
you still confused and lying mutt
he didn't say: "I have to walk ... like Enoch ..."
he said about his walk with the Lord: "Preferably like Enoch"

see how i was right when i called you: "twister and know all nothing"

MuttleyLaff:
You must be a goat, because it is goats who are stubborn and wouldnt take to being corrected that you address me as MuttleyLaff and not mutt

You this premium adult scallywag, are you deliberately trying to be obtuse ni or what?

Now mister busybody, sticking nose into what doesnt concern him, please show where scripture said/says, you and/or Dtruthspeaker, should "... walk with the Lord: "Preferably like Enoch""?

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Darnley:
Muttley and John, both of you started well on this thread as Sheep belong to Jesus but ended as one who just wear sheep clothing ...

to start with, you should know better that it is MuttleyLaff and not Muttley or whatnot.

Second, stop your feeding false information "both of you started well on this thread as Sheep belong to Jesus but ended as one who just wear sheep clothing" remark because I have reproduced up there to refrozen your memory the trajectory of johnw47's interaction on this thread with me, so to ask you, why didnt you call out johnw47, since it's him who instigated his reign of terrorising me, with name callings, even upon my over and over again, correcting him to use my proper, correct and full moniker ID et cetera.

Darnley:
... How can you prove to anyone that read through this thread that you are both Christian?

I feel no shame nor frustration in keep saying that, I cant ever, get tired of typing, that, there'd be less christians, even lesser christian pastors, if only more christians, properly and correctly read their bibles.

Darnley:
... For God sake, the topic on this thread is not for babies.

For the sake of babies, you ought to learn how to make righteous judgment, and not be calling God's name in vain, when its the aggressor johnw47 whom you rightly should have called aside and to order

Darnley:
... Reigning abusing words on one another as babies do. Please stop it, it is not godly

"¹²My brothers and sisters, can a fig tree bear olives, or a grapevine bear figs?
Neither can a salt spring produce fresh water.
¹³Who is wise and understanding among you?
Let them show it by their good life, by deeds done in the humility that comes from wisdom."
- James 3:12-13

So you think calling a poisonous fig tree, a poisonous fig tree and not palm tree is "reigning" sic abuses, abi, hmm?
johnw47 doesnt know how to have a good conversation without first maligning persons/posters. He won't kick the ball, but rather instead prefers going for kicking the foot and not the ball passed around in play. In his warped way of thinking, and by his own very admission, he is "just having a bit of fun ..." at pinching, all in the quest of having fun and drawing first blood. Goats are fond of play, so I am not anyway surprised at the clowning act the goat antics of johnw47

The life of a man is like a flower, blooming so gaily in a field, but then, along comes a goat, eats it, and the flower is gone! Smh sighing.

johnw47:
[s]pussy cat mutt
just like i said:
you sure do ramble on with your mountains of nosense
and over your imaginery goat
but you are losing sleep over it, good [/s]

So thinks the " imaginery" sic mountain billy-goat. The faun's lost in a labyrinth, and cant get itself to type MuttleyLaff, but stubbornly types mutt, that's what and how dried up silly he-goats do

johnw47:
pussy cat mutt
know all nothing

you sure do ramble on with your mountains of nonsense
you are losing sleep over your imaginary goat, funny

I know you're a goat because no matter how many times you correct a goat and/or wash a goat, it will still smell like a goat, the way just how you mountain billy goat johnw47 does

johnw47:
mutt, you deluded, thinking highly of yourself

The Lion of Judah, lives in every believer, this is something worth thinking highly of oneself for. Train with the lions, if you too want to become a lion, lmso

I cant run from who I am. When you know who you are, your confidence threatens Billy mountain goats like you, lmso.

johnw47:
about the lion, you no one, you pussy cat

Lion and pussy cat nobi mates, but hey lions don't lose sleep over opinions of mountain billy goat johnw47

johnw47:
mutt, you still confused, of course
a know all nothing

You've goat to be kidding me. Here we goat again. Put silk on a goat, it still is a goat. Once a goat always a goat. and its only a dumb goat tired of life, who tugs a lion for leg and invites it in for dinner

Dtruthspeaker:
Thank you John. It is Exactly what I said and I meant to say but because he is evil and studieth destruction, his lips (or fingers in this case) speak mischief and lyings and pervertings (Twistings).

People are already condemned for doing these things not to even add the case of homosexuality, which makes him seek to attack me at any given opportunity.

But as it is Written "doth not He that pondereth the heart consider it? and He that keepeth thy soul, doth not He know it? and shall not He render to every man according to his works?"

I know that it is The Lord that he is fighting with and not I, so I say not much on this matter and I do not really wish to make any further comments on it.

I have told Muttley severally that he has the right to excercise his discretion to refuse to accept my assertion without any consequence from me, yet like the dog, he won't let go, so I go!

johnw47:
someone recently told me not to waste time trying to expalin anything to a fool (specifically you)
he was right

What do you expect dumb and dumber to exchange and try "expalin" between themselves. You are a bigger fool than I am.

I am pleased that your goat brain has factory reset itself to default, there's hope for you that at least I dont need to "expalin" sense to you again about truncating the user ID MuttleyLaff

johnw47:
hey mutt, you r such a slow poke
walking like enoch is truthspeaker preference, he not say from
bible, of course you still won't get it, u so confused
and: know all nothing

Goat johnw47, are you this thick ni or you're are just plain stewpid hard of hearing.
Which of the two, does the Bible subscribe you walk like between Enoch and Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ?

johnw47:
you still confused and lying mutt

You must be a goat, because it is goats who are stubborn and wouldnt take to being corrected that you address me as MuttleyLaff and not mutt

johnw47:
... he didn't say: "I have to walk ... like Enoch ..."
he said about his walk with the Lord: "Preferably like Enoch"

see how i was right when i called you: "twister and know all nothing"

You this premium adult scallywag, are you deliberately trying to be obtuse ni or what?

Now mister busybody, sticking nose into what doesnt concern him, please show where scripture said/says, you and/or Dtruthspeaker, should "... walk with the Lord: "Preferably like Enoch""?

Jman06:
Let me also add to this thread that both HEAVEN and HELL are REAL.
Souls are rewarded according to their measures of good vs bad(evil).

Please explain to the best of your bible based knowledge and spirit filled understanding, what difference there is of hell and the lake of fire

Jman06:
All I tell you now is follow your conscience ALWAYS and you'll be fine with God.

Don't ask me another question because I will not reply.

What if someone follows their conscience, which happens to be bad nko?
Some even have conscience thats seared or even worse, have no conscience at all (i.e. they practically are indifferent)

Kobojunkie:
Where does this come from?

Jman06:
All I tell you now is follow your conscience ALWAYS and you'll be fine with God.

Don't ask me another question because I will not reply.

Dont stoop so low to play this " .. don't ask me another question because I will not reply" easy exit way out card

Dtruthspeaker:
As I had said earlier, the conclusion of the matter is that Enoch's Well-Doing in Walking with The Lord is not Mine to receive just as Koran

I have to Walk with The Lord Preferably like Enoch and Others who Delighted The Lord, which I very much love to do and not like Korah, who found His Displeasure, mi o fe!

MuttleyLaff:
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The usual disconnect comment(s) again being made
Show where scripture said you should walk like Enoch, lmso

johnw47:
mutt
he never said that, twister and know all nothing

johnw47, it is MuttleyLaff to you, and not mutt. Dont distort the import of the ID by altering/cutting/truncating it.

Look at whose defence you've come to talk out of both sides of the mouth. One second, it's "... Enoch's walking ... is not mine to receive" and the next second, changed tune to "I have to walk ... like Enoch ..."

It is glaring he said all that and it isn't twisting that he and you, know all nothing, smh sigh.

tobechi74:
Religion is man attempt to understand God. God is static. Whom we think God is has changed

Please give to the best of your understanding, knowledge and theology your answers to the following, easy, simple, direct, innocent, harmless, point blank and straightforward questions:
1/ In one or two sentences, make it three if you have, what is the biblical meaning of religion?
2/ Give two to three examples or demonstration of what question #1 above, asked what biblical religion is
3/ Give bible verses to that clearly and in detail, leaving no room for confusion or doubt, that supports your answers in
4/ Say ONE word, that captures the core essence of what biblical religion is about
5/ If you claim that "Religion is man attempt to understand God ..." sic, then what is the difference between religion and theology?

tobechi74:
The numerous death stories made me anxious that I stopped reading old testament and concentrated on new testament. The Gospel God was a God of Love, compassion and forgiveness.I found it impossible to reconcile the two. It is either they are two different gods or one God who repented . I prefer to go by my third explanation + MAN PERCEPTION OF GOD CHANGED OVER THE YEARS. The old testament toman perceived God the same way they perceived their elders- one to be obeyed blindly and feared. Jesus saw God as a friend to be loved and treated as equal to oneself . Jesus philosophy seemed to resonate with me.

As I studied further, I realized a variation in the teaching of Paul. Jesus seemed to break down patriarchy. Paul supported patriarchy. Jesus taught faith and works as requirement for salvation. Paul promoted only works. I am saddled with the same task of reconciling the two.

AntiChristian:
But God does not change/repent na, does He?

I the LORD do not change
- Malachi 3:6

God is not human, that he should lie, not a human being, that he should change his mind.
Numbers 23:19

"Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever".
Hebrews 13:8

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tobechi74:
Man perception of God changed over the years .

Kobojunkiee:
You skirted the question posed.

God does not Change. You posted that the Old Testament idea of God does not agree with you, so instead you chose to go with the New Testament stories of Jesus Christ, ignoring the God of the Old testament, why?

tobechi74:
A 3 year old dad thinks his dad is the wisest, strongest man in the world who can beat up everybody. As l time passes, he withnesses a tiny mosquito bite his dad to illness. He changes his theory. My dad is no longer the strongest.
Later, his dad looses money to MMM, THen he realized his dad is not as smart as he thought.

Did his dad change all this while? No, his belief about his dad changed. Religion is an / change evolution of man idea, belief about the creator(s)

tobechi74 , fyi, religion that is true, pure and one is God finds no fault in (i.e. meaning, religion that is faultless as in meaning has no flaws et cetera) is not "an/change evolution of man idea, belief about the creator(s)" sic

Dtruthspeaker:
What else is the meaning of example or recommendation if one is not encouraged to do "likewise"?

But I know you know this, you only desire to have the last word, so, enjoy.

MuttleyLaff:
....I, from a point of sense of duty, have allowed you enough of my precious, invaluable and priceless time, but right now, you have my blessing to wallow in your ignorance and enjoy taking delight in squandering your God given potentials, lmso, since engaging you is a chronomicide, on my part

The above were my passing last word blessing to you, lmso

Dtruthspeaker:
As I had said earlier, the conclusion of the matter is that Enoch's Well-Doing in Walking with The Lord is not Mine to receive just as Koran and co's rebellion, is not Mine.

I have to Walk with The Lord Preferably like Enoch and Others who Delighted The Lord, which I very much love to do and not like Korah, who found His Displeasure, mi o fe!

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The usual disconnect comment(s) again being made
Show where scripture said you should walk like Enoch, lmso

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Professional sifia pains wailer
Janosky, watch this space, circa late PM today, by the grace God, for my reply and free education, I'll give you, lmso

Acehart:
I will soon. I’m still studying and meditating. When I’m through, I’ll create a thread.

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I trust you'll do
I'll asap respond to your other post that repeatedly got you banned, lmso

Blabbermouth:
haddeylium, what's up?

haddeylium:
Evening!

Blabbermouth:
Does Jesus abide continually as a man in heaven?

haddeylium:
it depends on your definition of Man

Blabbermouth:
Do tell me your definition of man.

haddeylium:
I would prefer getting your definition instead.

Blabbermouth:
Lol. Since a particular, yet true definition of man will make you concur to the fact of Christ Jesus resurrected and abideth continually as a man, then I'm cool.

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Yanga's pull and Trouble's legs
Blabbermouth and his cheese on a mousetrap question

Acehart:
Have you read the scriptures to find out what God says?

Care to share what you've found out God says about should a believer join any protest, demonstrate or carry placards

haddeylium:
"I am Jehovah. That is my name.”
- Isaiah 42:8

"That they may know that thou alone, whose name is Jehovah, Art the Most High over all the earth.”
- Psalm 83:18

"And it hath come to pass, Every one who calleth in the name of Jehovah is delivered,
For in mount Zion and in Jerusalem there is an escape,
As Jehovah hath said, And among the remnants whom Jehovah is calling!"
- Joel 2:32

"I am Yahweh, that is My name;
I will not give My glory to another or My praise to idols"
- Isaiah 42:8

"May they know that You alone-- whose name is Yahweh-- are the Most High over all the earth”
- Psalm 83:18

"Then everyone who calls on the name of Yahweh will be saved,
for there will be an escape for those on Mount Zion and in Jerusalem,
as the LORD promised, among the survivors the LORD calls."
- Joel 2:32

"and it shall be that everyone who calls on the name of the "Lord" will be saved"
- Acts 2:21

Isaiah 42:8, Psalm 83:18 and Joel 2:32, each and all, have the word Yahweh used and not that your invented and artificial Latinized name Jehovah. As for in Acts 2:21, neither Yahweh nor the your invented and artificial Latinized name Jehovah was used, but it is the Greek word "Kurios" which when translated into English correctly means "Lord," "Master" and even "Owner"

haddeylium:
Exodus 6:3
-And I used to appear to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob as God Almighty, but with regard to my name 'Jehovah' I did not make myself known to them.
Is it the English?

These faithful patriarch knew God's personal name and they use it extensively(Gen 28:16).
'they had not had opportunity to appreciate the full meaning and implications of his personal name'
God reveals the meaning of his personal name' 'JEHOVAH' to Moses and the Israelites get to grasp and experience the meaning of his name 'I'll become what I'll become/I'll prove to be what I'll prove to be
God became a deliverer to delivered the Israelites from slavery
Afterward...

Ex3:15
-Then God said once more to Moses: “..., ‘Jehovah the God of your forefathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you.’ This is my name forever, and this is how I am to be remembered from generation to generation.

Be deceiving yourself there that "Jehovah" is God's personal name, OK?

haddeylium:
who is diswan bayii
why u dey twist God's word like this
Manoah knew God's personal name'. what He asked is the Angel's name. He refused like some others Angels so as not to received undue honour meant for God ( Jg 13:17,18)

(jg 13:6)-Then the woman went and told her husband: “A man of the true God came to me, and his appearance was like an angel of the true God, very awe-inspiring. I did not ask him where he was from, nor did he tell me his name.
(Compare with verse 9)
The two Angel God's word reveals their name are Michael and Gabriel.

"⁶So the woman went and told her husband, “A man of God came to me. His appearance was like the angel of God, exceedingly awesome. I did not ask him where he came from, and he did not tell me his name.
⁷But he said to me, ‘Behold, you will conceive and give birth to a son. Now, therefore, do not drink wine or strong drink, and do not eat anything unclean, because the boy will be a Nazirite to God from the womb until the day of his death.’ ”
⁸Then Manoah prayed to the LORD, “Please, O Lord, let the man of God You sent us come to us again to teach us how to raise the boy who is to be born.”
⁹And God listened to the voice of Manoah, and the angel of God returned to the woman as she was sitting in the field;
but her husband Manoah was not with her.
¹⁰The woman ran quickly to tell her husband,
“Behold, the man who came to me the other day has reappeared!”
¹¹So Manoah got up and followed his wife.
When he came to the man, he asked, “Are you the man who spoke to my wife?”
“I AM,” He said.
¹²Then Manoah asked, “When your words come to pass, what will be the boy’s rule of life and mission?”
¹³So the angel of the LORD answered Manoah, “Your wife is to do everything I told her.
¹⁴She must not eat anything that comes from the vine, nor drink any wine or strong drink, nor eat anything unclean.
She must do everything I have commanded her.”
¹⁵“Please stay here,” Manoah said to the angel of the LORD, “and we will prepare a young goat for you.”
¹⁶And the angel of the LORD replied, “Even if I stay, I will not eat your food.
But if you prepare a burnt offering, offer it to the LORD.” For Manoah did not know that it was the angel of the LORD.
¹⁷Then Manoah said to the angel of the LORD,
“What is your name, so that we may honor you when your word comes to pass?”
¹⁸“Why do you ask my name,” said the angel of the LORD, “since it is beyond comprehension?”
¹⁹Then Manoah took a young goat and a grain offering and offered them on a rock to the LORD.
And as Manoah and his wife looked on, the LORD did a marvelous thing.
²⁰When the flame went up from the altar to the sky, the angel of the LORD ascended in the flame.
When Manoah and his wife saw this, they fell facedown to the ground.
²¹And when the angel of the LORD did not appear again to Manoah and his wife, Manoah realized that it had been the angel of the LORD.
²²“We are going to die,” he said to his wife, “for we have seen God!”"
- Judges 13:6-22

Have a careful and proper look at the wordings in the last sentences of verses Judges 13:11 and Judges 13:22 please give your answers to following easy, simple, direct, harmless, innocent, point blank and straightforward questions
1/ For using the unmistakeable wording “I AM,” the Angel of God is whom, lmso?
2/ What explanation, did Manoah give to his wife as the reason why they are going to die?
3/ What answer did the angel of the Lord, give to Manoah, for asking Him, what His name is?
4/ Are Michael and Gabriel arch angels or the angel of the Lord?

haddeylium:
These are just many of the arrays of God's title. They're not his name
You can be referred to as Boss, husband, Doctor, father but you would sure have your unique personal name.
So is God, and his name is Jehovah

"Why do you ask my name,” said the angel of the LORD, “since it is beyond comprehension?
(i.e. No," the angel replied. "You don't need to know my name. And if you did, you couldn't understand it."”
- Judges 13:18

Are you deaf of hearing ni, hmm? I already have been telling you that no one knows God's personal name, yet here you are, axe clung over head, insisting that your invented and artificial Latinized name Jehovah is God's personal name

haddeylium:
You don't get it.
Transliteration is represented in another language letter for letter or word.
Translation is concerned with transfer of the meaning to another language doesn't necessarily have to be the same sound or spelling

I sensed you understand Yoruba
Teacher in English
Transliterate form- Tisha or relative
Translation- Oluko

Even though they sound differently, they both amount to the same meaning

God's personal name is translated as JEHOVAH, the transliterated form is Yahweh.
Different spelling and pronunciation but still the same meaning.

Jehovah is popular and widely acceptance
The important thing is Using God's name.
whatever pleases you . But to us...

Micah 4:5
- For all the peoples will walk, each in the name of its god,
But we will walk in the name of Jehovah our God forever and ever

You're just making stronger confirming my points for me and strengthening proving the case that the name Jehovah, is invented, artificial and bogus. Thank you very much, lmso

The Hebrew letters designated for God, as I've earlier intimated you about, after transliteration is the word Yhvh or YHWH. The name Jehovah is a legacy word inherited from the period of Romanization influence of which your organisation later on adopted. There is no letter J, in Hebraic alphabet, so Jehovah cannot at all, in the real sense possibly be God's name. Just because Jehovah, allegedly is popular and in widely acceptance, doesnt take away the fact and truth it is bogus, that its an invented and artificial Latinized name.

Fyi the word Yahweh, is a descriptor and is not all God's personal name. The word comes from a root word that means "to become," which is from how God told Moshe aka Moses to the tell the Israelites that "I will become what I choose to become" is who sent him to them when he asked for God's name. God sidestepped giving Moshe aka Moses any name but instead offered him the Yahweh descriptor (i.e. I AM that I AM or I AM who I AM or even I WILL BE WHAT I WILL BE or I will become what I choose to become)

donnie:
He is not a man, but he made us men in His image (to look like Him). He is the Creator, the almighty ...YAHUAH is His name.

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The flippancy.
Shm at using "he" & "almighty" for God.
Some posters, just like our donnie here, are unaware that their posts 9 times out of 10 makes no sense. Watch him do a runner, at the prospect of being asked to explain exactly how God made us men, in His image (to look like Him)

donnie:
There's a difference between invincible and invisible. Look up both words then REPENT and believe the truth.

Do you know that Moses saw his backside? (Exodus 33:22).

GeneralDae:
Thanks for the correction, but come on, like wow your God is a man? interesting.

GeneralDae, ask donnie, to say what precisely is the "backside" of God that Moses saw and explain specifically what in the "backside" of God, did Moses see?

Watch how donnie, will dodge the request, and unashamedly refuse to grant the easy, simple, direct, innocent, harmless, point-blank straightforward request, lmso

Dtruthspeaker:
See, you do not know what Truth is! Truth is not strong enough, you have disrespected and short changed it.

It is The Great Power of God.Psalm 119:1 and 142.

Blessed are the undefiled in the way, who walk in the law of the Lord.

and thy law is The Truth.

It is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one title of the Law to fail. Luke 16:17

I am Right but as it is Written "they shall not hear"

The Lord owns my heart and my everything, so no road!

You can continue in all this your shenanigans until the cows come home, your crooked sticks, still will never be straightened, no matter how much hard, you sotay, try trimming and shaving them by proof-texting with the bible, lmso.

You at least got the part right, that the Lord owns your heart and your everything, but except you and any cohort on this thread repent, your souls are destined for damnation and annihilation. Dont say youse weren't warned!

Ordinarily, I am very protective of my precious time, and prefer to prioritise what I used my precious time for, but though I knew, you're nothing other than a precious time stealer, precious time waster and precious time killer, all rolled into one, I, from a point of sense of duty, have allowed you enough of my precious, invaluable and priceless time, but right now, you have my blessing to wallow in your ignorance and enjoy taking delight in squandering your God given potentials, lmso, since engaging you is a chronomicide, on my part

Dtruthspeaker:
You know nothing about Permissible Rights. But it's fine!

Truth is strong enough to overcome all your clever by half human sophistries.

You know enough to think you’re right, but not enough to know how wrong you are on the several accounts, you've been caught slipping up, lmso

Oftentimes, it’s just good enough to plant the seed, walk away and let the germinated seed's plant and its flower grow on their own. Sooner or latter, with the right and favourable elements you'll have an epiphany apple dropped moment.

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AududuNine11:
Should a believer join any PROTEST, DEMONSTRATE, CARRY PLACARDS?

Here's my view as a believer regarding PROTEST/DEMONSTRATION - peaceful or not peaceful, SARS related or not:

All things are lawful for me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but all things edify not.
1 Corinthians 10:23 KJV

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Tochj:
Depending on what you understand by protest.
To me protest is simply to disagree
To say This is evil,it can't stand
That was what Jesus did
That was what he stand for.

AududuNine11:
I think the major problem is finding a functional definition of the word "definition". It seems the word has different meaning to many us commenting here, hence, the failure to actually get the point I'm driving at.

I have never write or implied "evil should not be spoken against of".

If many if you had really read the passage I quoted, and not just reading it like it's a chat message, there would be no need for all these rancour and clamouring.

What is your problem with should a believer decide to join any protest, demonstrate or carry placards?

You deserve whatsoever "rancour and clamouring", you get. Did you believe you'll raise your head above the parapet trivialising believers actions and decisions to join peaceful non violent protest, demonstrations or carry placards and expect not to get shot at.

If you've never written or implied that "evil should not be spoken against of", then what do think peaceful non violent protest, demonstrations or carry placards are doing? Is it being silent, folding arms, sitting on hands, not pulling fingers out to do nothing ni, erhn? ọ oj

The major problem is yourself, your problem stems from you sitting on your high horse, with an oversimplified and distorted impression of what protesting means. The Yoruba, will say, "idi pẹlẹbẹ, la nti mu, ọlẹ jẹ", loosely translated means, "food is taken to be eaten from the nearest place to us on the plate" Even Yahshua Ha Mashiach first took care of the welfare of people following Him before dealing with their soul needs and ultimately the work of having their souls saved.

You're failing to see how you are trying to demonise the actions and decisions of believers joining/participating in peaceful non violent protest of whatever form (e.g. online petitions, on the streets, social media expressed protest et cetera), demonstrations, carry placards et cetera.

Dtruthspeaker:
I will not go outside and beyond my jurisdiction. It would be ultra vires and unlawful to do so.

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Need I say more.

Just as I thought, that the brain, as far as you're concerned, is an ornament to decorate your body and head with, and so, you've come to the terms that you are blessed with this powerfully built processing functional gift, for no purpose, for no reason(s) and not for such a time(s) as this/these, but to use it, to cowardly cop out of answering easy, simple, direct, harmless, innocent, point-blank and straightforward questions with. This is the beauty of the gift of freewill, so feel free to underuse your brain, thank you very much, lmso. OK?

Dtruthspeaker:
D "innocent", indeed! I refuse to be stupid enough to let the blind, lead me.

The irony is you are as stupid as you look. By yourself are you walking into ditches without so much as being led by anyone. What a travesty of realities. Smh sigh

Dtruthspeaker:
And I stand upon the Truth of The Lord and you have still not rebutted, you are only saying that I am not correct and asking further questions as to the depths of my assertion, which I have answered, only further shows the Strength of my Assertion.

Discoveries would have been made from you answering questions put before you and advances would have been made by you answering every one of the easy, simple, direct, harmless, innocent, point-blank and straightforward questions asked and not you dodging, ducking and diving away from answering the questions. Why you feel intimidated by them easy, simple, direct, harmless, innocent, point-blank and straightforward questions is baffling.

Dtruthspeaker:
And you still could not rebut it nor go over it as The Things of The Lord "It's So High That You Can Never Get Over It, It's So Low, You Can Never Get Under It, It's So Wide You Can Never Get Around it, it's so Strong, You Can Never Get Through it!

Spare us all these tired old cliché banalities

Dtruthspeaker:
So simply saying that I am wrong is not a Rebuttal!

You are so far right up in your rear end, you need to come out it, to see the light, the light of the day

Dtruthspeaker:
what a narrow mind. A whole soul, that The Lord made to be eternal, and you think it right to reduce it to a few miserly years on earth. Ok oh, it is your right.

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This man again is at it.

"And you should not be afraid of those killing the body but not being able to kill the soul.
Indeed rather you should fear the One being able to destroy both soul and body in Gehenna."
- Matthew 10:28

Look at you make another boo-boo, claiming that the God made the soul to be eternal, smh

Dtruthspeaker:
oh from bad to worse! Ok oh!

I have answered you but you did not want it, as is your right.

Let me come down to your level. Give one or two words, for the name of this "Beyond the Territories of the earth which are in and within The Kingdom/Domain of God!" sic is called, that you believe "Enoch did not Die, He Lives!" is in. Please bring up scripture verse(s) to back up what your one word or two words answer is, with. Thank you in advance for complying, lmso

Dtruthspeaker:
And this is where you are really funny in insisting I tell you that which is not mine!

I know my bounds and I do not intend to ever break it. It is not my place.

You're boko. You're a fraud, if you aren't you would know what is/are your rights, plus whats permissible and/or within understanding of Proverbs 25:2

SegFault:
Christians commit atrocities too, I don't know why you guys can't realise that most over religious countries are naturally backward.

SegFault:
There are over 5000 religions show me what makes you think you are right.

MuttleyLaff:
I concur entirely and without demur, which is why I liked this post, lmso

The one religion, that you ought to know is right, not even think, because the qualifier is know, and not think, is the religion that is pure, that is true, one that has no flaw, and is a religion such that God accepts it, to be faultless, lmso. Go figure.

SegFault:
number one, using God is a fallacy in this argument because this is a secular argument which includes several religions and by using that statement you block other religions out, number two how do you know the one that is pure?

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SegFault:
You were the one that suggested the one and true religion and you were the one who mentioned me, I wasn't talking to you or arguing about purity of religions and by the way the definition of religion can and never will change for me, it's simply the worship and believe in a supreme being, kabisa ...

You seem to have conveniently chosen to forget that it was you who introduced religiosity into the conversation with your " ... I don't know why you guys can't realise that most over religious countries are naturally backward" comment, so if you in addition to that, further on typed that there are over 500 religions, according to your admission, then please tell me, what's wrong in me bringing to your attention, that there exists, out of all those over 500 religions, one true, pure and without fault religion, hmm?

You dont hombre, have to face talking to me before I throw in a few two cents/pences/kobos. Please dont make remind you that I am not having an argument with you, but its you arguing with yourself over points I've dropped that that's made you grouchy, getting the hump and feeling uncomfortable

Well I have seen that you have a oversimplified and distorted impression of what a pure, true and faultless religion is, lmso.

Anyway, "kabisa", is a good way to baby feet start, lmso, just be mindful that there is more to know about "kabisa" lmso.

SegFault:
... And lastly atheism is not a religion, it contains no form of conduct or ritual, it is like saying that nothingness is existence which makes absolutely no sense.

Atheism is a religion itself inasmuch as it has its fair share of fanatics and bigots, lmso. Atheism is a strange religion, in that, devils, have the right sense not to fall into that vice, for they demons, believe that there exists, God and shudder at the reality of that fact and truth, lmso.

SegFault:
number one, using God is a fallacy in this argument because this is a secular argument which includes several religions and by using that statement you block other religions out ...

"Atheism is a religion but I don't believe in it

Religion takes different shape and form, has different passions, interest, rituals etcetera.
For some, sports, like football or hockey is a religion.
For others some, fashion too is a religion

Christianity, Hinduism, Islam, Buddhism, New Age, Scientology, Paganism, TAF etcetera too are religions
however there is only one true and pure religion, that is faultless. So let's call a spade, a spade"
- by MuttleyLaff: 4:23pm On Dec 24, 2018

"Football is a religion, ice hockey is a religion, fashion for some is a religion and atheism too funnily enough too is a religion. The word religion, just like the word mouse, has over the passage of time changed from what it originally meant from what your dictionary says it is"
- by MuttleyLaff: 1:00am On Jan 01

"It is organised religion(s), like for example, Christianity, that is called the opium of the people, and not empathy and/or compassion, that is pure, true and without faults Ranchh.oddas

....Religion takes different shapes and forms, has different passions, interest, rituals etcetera, and so football is a religion, ice hockey is a religion, fashion, for some, is a religion and atheism too funnily enough, as well, is a religion but nobody, not even you Ranch.hoddas, can find a fault in empathy and/or with compassion"
- by MuttleyLaff: 12:15am On Jan 14

Truth is like the sun. You can shut it out for a time, but it ain't goin' away. I dont understand your aversion to a mention of the word God here. Fyi, I am not having an argument here, maybe its you arguing with yourself over points I've laid down on the ground, lmso, besides the OP, AududuNine11, opened this thread and raised the question in relation to and connected with religious or spiritual matters and not to be confined to secularity

Take for granted, that we all accept and agree that religion takes different shapes and forms, has different passions, interest, rituals etcetera. Case in point, Christianity, Hinduism, Islam, Buddhism, New Age, Scientology, Paganism, TAR, etcetera actually are religions. Also, for some, sports, like football or hockey is a religion. For some others, fashion is a religion. Atheism too, funnily enough, as well, as I earlier intimated, is a religion however I reiterate, there is only one true and pure religion, that is faultless, and if you know, you know. Who no know, no go know, and it is a right outright shame they dont know what it is. Smh sigh

SegFault:
... number two, how do you know the one that is pure?

Now are you admitting that you dont know how to know the one that is pure and true religion ni, hmm?

SegFault:
Christians commit atrocities too, I don't know why you guys can't realise that most over religious countries are naturally backward.

I concur entirely and without demur, which is why I liked this post, lmso

AududuNine11:
Christians are those who have genuinely repented of all their sins, washed by the Blood of the Lamb, and are committed to living to the dictates of God's Word.

Going to Church doesn't make one a Christian
Bearing a Christian name doesn't make one a Christian.
Engaging in Church activities does make one a Christian.

As you can see, we have so many acclaimed "Christians" on this thread railing insults on me these ones are nominal Christians.

Come and accept Christ genuinely and know what it really means to be a Christian, or remain adamant and recalcitrant, thereby spurning the Love that God has offered to all mankind by giving His Son to die for us all.

If you reject His love now, here on earth, be sure that in that great judgement day, what you'd see is a fiercely looking judge who will judge all men according to their works, whether good or bad, and all those who refused His love will have their part in the lake of fire which never quenches.

SegFault:
There are over 5000 religions show me what makes you think you are right.

The one religion, that you ought to know is right, not even think, because the qualifier is know, and not think, is the religion that is pure, that is true, one that has no flaw, and is a religion such that God accepts it, to be faultless, lmso. Go figure.

SegFault:
Christians commit atrocities too, I don't know why you guys can't realise that most over religious countries are naturally backward.

AududuNine11:
Christians are those who have genuinely repented of all their sins, washed by the Blood of the Lamb, and are committed to living to the dictates of God's Word.

Going to Church doesn't make one a Christian
Bearing a Christian name doesn't make one a Christian.
Engaging in Church activities does make one a Christian.

As you can see, we have so many acclaimed "Christians" on this thread railing insults on me these ones are nominal Christians.

Come and accept Christ genuinely and know what it really means to be a Christian, or remain adamant and recalcitrant, thereby spurning the Love that God has offered to all mankind by giving His Son to die for us all.

If you reject His love now, here on earth, be sure that in that great judgement day, what you'd see is a fiercely looking judge who will judge all men according to their works, whether good or bad, and all those who refused His love will have their part in the lake of fire which never quenches.

"²⁷King Agrippa, do you believe the prophets? I know that you do believe.”
²⁸Then Agrippa said to Paul, “You almost persuade me to become a Christian.”
²⁹And Paul said, “I would to God that not only you,
but also all who hear me today, might become both almost and altogether such as I am, except for these chains.”"
- Acts 26:27-29

Not once did Peter, Paul, James, John, nor any of the other disciples of Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ ever saluted, greeted, addressed themselves as or called each other Christian(s) (i.e. "Christianos'')

AududuNine11, doesnt it sound strange, to you, that none of the Apostles, ever called each other christian. Watch how Apostle Paul, as seen in Acts 26:27-28 above, had a golden opportunity and chance, in front of king Agrippa, to boldly admit that he is a kofam, bonafide and real McCoy true born Christian, but he baulked. He was unwilling to be called a Christian and right there in Acts 26:29, never allowed the Christian epithet word, roll off his tongue to confirm and describe with his mouth, who he has become.

It is was the world, who gave the early believers, the nickname, Christian. It was the people of Antioch, well known and famous for inventing nicknames who were the force behind profaning the name of Christ, which incidentally is Genesis 4:26b revisited. Constantine only came to perfect that which the people of Antioch invented and which he successfully according to his game plan, has you hooked on and hoodwinked with, lmso

I keep saying that, I cant ever get tired of typing, that, there'd be less christians, if only more christians like you, properly and 2 Timothy 2:15 styling, read their bibles.

You deserve whatsoever railing insult that comes your way, and that's because of your ITK ignorance, quasi biblical knowledge, shallow theology, conceited full of yourself and condescending remark(s)

I know the content in this post, everything I've typed in this post, just went swoosh, right over your head, as if like, its a couple of Naija Airforce MiG fighter jets flying by low and past overhead, lmso

SegFault:
Wetin concern pacifism concern protests, pacifists protest, they are simply against war.

Pacifism is opposition to war, militarism or violence.

The word pacifism was coined by the French peace campaigner Émile Arnaud (1864–1921) and adopted by other peace activists at the tenth Universal Peace Congress in Glasgow in 1901.

A related term is ahimsa (i.e. to do no harm), which is a core philosophy in Indian Religions such as Hinduism, Buddhism, and Jainism.

In modern times, interest was revived by Leo Tolstoy in his late works, particularly in The Kingdom of God Is Within You. Mahatma Gandhi (1869–1948) propounded the practice of steadfast nonviolent opposition which he called "satyagraha", instrumental in its role in the Indian Independence Movement. Its effectiveness served as inspiration to Martin Luther King Jr., James Lawson, Mary and Charles Beard, James Bevel, Thich Nhat Hanh and many others in the civil rights movement.

Pacifism covers a spectrum of views, there is anarchist or libertarian pacifism, case in point, the nonviolent protest of fictional Hegetorides of Thasos.

Dtruthspeaker:
Bros oh, you are asking the wrong person oh! I have No Power to Appoint who shall be Taken and who shall not be Taken at all, for there to be a reoccurrence.

Abeg oh, I do not Determine these things.

What is easier to do? Give your response to the asked question or to wail, bleat and give a "Bros oh, you are asking the wrong person oh! I have No Power to Appoint who shall be Taken and who shall not be Taken at all, for there to be a reoccurrence. Abeg oh, I do not Determine these things" reply. Smh sigh.

Dtruthspeaker:
[s]I do not know the Relevance of these things and frankly I do not wish to know, Yeah, I Fear False Prophets well-well, so I do not go outside my KjV Bible, for that one, I know very well and I am very satisfied with the results I have obtained from it.

Since I am very Satisfied with All I have done to verify the Truthfulness of the KjV Bible, I seek not another.

Therefore, what is in the KjV, is Good and True, and I accept it and What isn't, I am very much fine to live without it and dispense with it.[/s]

What a right load of hay stacks of codswallop. I bet you wouldnt know the relevance of those four easy, simple, direct, harmless, innocent, point-blank and straightforward questions, as you dont want your illusion to be destroyed from realising the truth, lmso. Since you still want to enjoy perpetuating the export of false information please feel free to be my guest at doing just that. I am not on this thread responding because of you but only for the sake of those you might mislead with ignorant ill-informed, undereducated Bible knowledge and bad theology

Dtruthspeaker:
Do not lose focus of the question! The question is not "how long Enoch lived on the face of the earth" But whether he died after 365 years on the face of the earth

"So all the days of Enoch were three hundred and sixty-five years.
(i.e. Altogether, Enoch lived a total of 365 years or so Enoch's life lasted 365 years)"
- Genesis 5:23

Did you skip English language and grammar lessons when in school ni. When you say "...He Lives!", this proves you lost focus, even before any form of question is asked you, because the word "lived" carries an interpretation that means the whole days someone was alive or the whole days someone lived.

There is no question, all there is there, is that Enoch, just as we all human beings do physically die, he too, died after 365 years on the face of the earth. Period. Unlike the other patriarchs who lived circa 800 to almost 1000 years, it was only Enoch whose life was cut short by dying at a young age of 365 years in comparison to others' ages in the biblical time line history

Dtruthspeaker:
You have to Ask The Owner and King of Those Territories, not I, for I do not own them, therefore I can not know their Names.

As to the Territories/Domain of God you already know that

1) "The earth is the LORD'S, and the fulness thereof; the world, and they that dwell therein." Psalm 24:1.

2) Isaiah 66:1 "Thus saith the Lord, The heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool:

Let us put Aside the identifying of the Throne and look at the footstool.

I had explained it earlier in this manner.
"The Earth is God's Foot Stool, So Imagine How BIG, The House, (That Contains) The Foot Stool Must Be to Contain it. (Praises Be To God That we All know How "big" a foot stool is in proportion to a House, that is how small it really is).

And Footstools Are Kept Inside a House, when in use.

This is Also Where You Appreciate The Gravity of "In My Father's House, There are Many Mansions". John 14:2

Could you Ponder about how large a House must be to contain Many Mansion which contains a footstool?

Here you go again waffling stuff and nonsense, pretending that you really know the subject you're talking on, but when I lean on you and breath down neck, you uncomfortably wince, make a run for it, give some lame and flimsy excuse for not answering easy, simple, harmless, innocent, point-blank and straightforward questions directly asked you

Now watch this and see how you won't disappoint me from not giving your responses to the following questions, lmso:
1/ What physically is God's form?
2/ Is God contained in form?
3/ You typed that "Enoch did not Die, He Lives!" then you follow on, added "Where?" with you answering with: "Beyond the Territories of the earth which are in and within The Kingdom/Domain of God!," so I hereby, now again, for the umpteen time re-ask you:
What is the name of this "Beyond the Territories of the earth which are in and within The Kingdom/Domain of God!" sic called that you believe "Enoch did not Die, He Lives!" is in, please bring up scripture verse(s) to back up your answer with. Thank you in advance for complying, lmso

I dont need to ponder on anything that I already know, as you can see from me asking you those first two questions above. if the throne is a section of a palace, (i.e. in heaven) and a footstool is a foot rest (i.e. on earth), imagine the extent of the palace, talkless the extent of the kingdom, but I aren't at all, interested in talking in talking about them lot, but all along have only been interested in telling me what is/are the name(s) of the place called, that according to the best of your knowledge and understanding where Enoch is, going by your submission that "Enoch did not Die, He Lives!" The place where Enoch is, should have a name, wouldnt it and you as intelligent and well-informed as you like portraying yourself to be, ought to know what the Bible specially, particularly and specifically calls this place?