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777isaac:
Thank you for this scriptural proof. Jesus rose with physical body, the same way we shall all rise from death. 1 Corinthians 15:20-55. However this physical body is a glorified one, better than what was dead. Just like a seed planted brings forth a more better and beautiful harvest.

Dont worry about it brother because as it happens, a candle loses nothing by lighting up another candle, lmso.

"No eye has seen, no ear has heard, and no mind has imagined what God has prepared for those who love him.” (i.e. 1 Corinthians 2:9, piggybacking on Isaiah 64:4) "If God will create new heavens and a new earth. That the former things will not be remembered, nor will they come to mind" (i.e. Isaiah 65:17) then is it hard for God to re-create glorified bodies ni, just like Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ has, which was lost in the garden of Eden after the fall from grace to grass?

Janosky:
1 Corinthians 15:44,45,50 no spirit has flesh in heaven.
Receive Sense

"⁶So when the apostles came together, they asked Him, "Lord, is this the time when you're going to restore the kingdom to Israel?"
⁷Jesus told them, "You don't need to know about times or periods that the Father has determined by His own authority.
⁸But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit comes to you. Then you will be My witnesses to testify about Me in Jerusalem, throughout Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth."
⁹After He had said this, He was taken to heaven. A cloud hid Him so that they could no longer see Him.
¹⁰They were staring into the sky as He departed. Suddenly, two men in white clothes stood near them.
¹¹They asked, "Why are you men from Galilee standing here looking at the sky?
Jesus, who was taken from you to heaven, will come back in the same way that you saw Him go to heaven."
- Acts 1:6-11

haddeylium:
Hmmmn..
Who are the Jesus peers nah?
if it's not the angels, Blabbermouth will tell us who they are

Blabbermouth thats still enjoying his forced sabbatical.

PS: Oh, looks like he actually has finished serving his ban, lmso.

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psychalade:
We've been "diceptively" sold the narration that Egypt is an "evil enclave" and we should rather go to mecca and Jerusalem!
But the whites continues excavation works on Egyptian soil, of archaeologycal evidence of blacks creative wonders, predating "Adam & Eve creation story"

"²⁰Our forefathers worshiped in this mountain, and you say that in Jerusalem is the place where it is necessary to worship."
²¹Yeshua said to her, "Woman, believe me that the hour is coming in which neither in this mountain nor in Jerusalem will you worship The Father.
²²You are worshiping what you do not know. We know what we are worshiping, for The Life is of the Jews.
²³But the hour is coming and now is, when the true worshippers will worship The Father in The Spirit and in The Truth, for The Father also is seeking such worshippers as these.
²⁴For The Spirit is God, and it is fitting that those who worship him worship in The Spirit and in The Truth."
²⁵The woman said to him, "I know that The Messiah is coming, and when he comes, he will teach us all things."
²⁶Yeshua said to her, "I AM THE LIVING GOD *, I who am speaking with you.""
- John 4:20-26

God is not interested in Egypt, Mecca or Jerusalem. The stage we are now is that of God will meet with you at where you are. Location doesnt matter anymore. Where have you being all this while with COVID-19? Havent you learnt the many lessons of COVID-19 ni? Do you know that, but a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and in truth, for the Father is seeking such as these to worship Him.

Let the dead continue be busy excavating amongst the dead

1StopRudeness:
See, that’s why I said I couldn’t go into deep conversations with u. 1) you are just throwing insult to make point...lol..

Do you see why I'll anytime go deep with you, hmm? You throw subtle shades, while I reciprocate with unconcealed penetrative backhand volley counter assaults, that you cry baby styling take as insults, lmso.

1StopRudeness:
it doesn’t make ur point sink well, it just shows u have nothing much to say...

You better believe that I have more than I show, speak less than I know and you'll have nothing at all, talkless say much to say, if I should lean and unleash on you, lmso

1StopRudeness:
2) like most gay people,

Here we go again, I guess, as for you, bad habit(s) is/are hard suddenly get rid off, even after you've duly being corrected, lmso

1StopRudeness:
u ignore fundamental facts, facts from nature, and from well astablished biomedical & social research..why?. in order to suit ur gay lifestyle...it’s not just u, it’s the modus operandi of the LGBT community...
it’s desperation for validity.

Let me allow you entertain me using props from your bag of ignorance. So you are saying that SSA is not engrained, is not established, is not found in nature, plants and animals, abi? You are saying the natural and unnatural havent any sense of usefulness, value and purpose, in them, abi, lmso?

1StopRudeness:
That’s the same thing you do with religious scripture...like I said go and try it with the Muslims/Quran

Whats my business with prophet Muhammad pbuh, the Quran or muslims? My jurisdiction, my purview, my station, my home is the Bible

1StopRudeness:
U people even go as far as staging fake crimes against urself to establish nonexistent hatred... u call us homophobes....becos we have a different view..

Staging fakeries of any sort, is not peculiar to any set or sort of people, the fakery crime permeates from the bullpiss, sorry I meant pulpit, to

1StopRudeness:
How about this for free education:

Gay, bisexual, and other men who reported male-to-male sexual contacta are the population most affected by HIV in the United States. In 2018, gay and bisexual menb made up 69% of the 37,968 new HIV diagnosesc in the United States (US) and dependent areas.d Approximately 492,000 sexually active gay and bisexual men are at high risk for HIV; however, we have more tools to prevent HIV than ever before....by the way, the source is the United States center for disease control. h ttps://www.cdc.gov/hiv/group/msm/index.html

Here another for a well verified source: h ttps://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/09/070913132930.htm
they even said the research was based on the same number of partners....from both gay and heterosexuals.. yet you guys cliched the gold medal for higest HIV...

Incase u need another :

h ttps://www.verywellhealth.com/why-do-gay-men-have-an-increased-risk-of-hiv-3132782

Brother, would you ever attempt to teach grandma how to suck eggs. Do you think you're conversing with baby Kingsway here, hmm? If you aren't an indomie/millennial generation (i.e. Generation Y) or Generation Z generation then you wouldnt understand what the phrase baby Kingsway means, lmso

Anyway cutting to the chase, if you had done the proper due diligence of reading completely all the sites you posted, you would have noticed, that their content reinforced my point that infidelity, promiscuity and drug addiction, predominantly are the root cause of HIV/AIDS. Gays' risk is high because a large percentage of their potential partners are infected with the virus, on top on not using protective sex. Do you think gays, can easily contract STDs (i.e. sexually transmitted diseases) like syphilis, gonorrhea and chlamydia that greatly increase the chance of getting or transmitting HIV, if there are faithful and monogamous to each other, lmso, hmm?

Do you know who Magic Johnson is. He isn't gay. It was promiscuity, that karma-snitched on him

donnie:
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This is Nsibidi, a writing script of the Ejagham people of Nigeria/ Cameroon boarder. It was shared with the Ibibios/ Efiks who also shared with the Igbos. There are ancient monoliths, and artifacts missionaries found in this region which carry these Nsibidi symbols. Colonialists were shocked to find these people with such ancient writing script which is said by many to be older than Egyptian hieroglyphics. These people or their ancestors were obviously part of an ancient and advanced civilization. Only black buffoons will argue otherwise or insist that Europeans came to meet a totally uncivilized people.

See him summoning his gang of miserable Pharisees and Sadducees.

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Baba is having a brown pant moment at the mention of OkCornel and nsiba, lmso

It is only a "Far-to-see" and "Sad-to-see" bastard using a left hand to point to the family house, that unjustly and unrighteously call his fellow black skinned African brothers black buffoons and slander them that they argue or insist that Europeans came to meet a totally uncivilized people.

I really dont want to go the tribal route with Baba, but it must be stated that the Europeans met in the west, a civilised "ọmọ Oduduwa", the Europeans met on the ground, Ọrunmila, who happens to be one of my favourite fathers of philosophers and who is believed to have existed a long earlier than Socrates. They met a people group proud of themselves, full of culture and tradition, people whose men dressed in "buba ati sokoto" (i.e. vest top and trousers) with flowing "agbada" (i.e. overflowing outer garment) and "abeti-aja fila" (i.e. dog ears styled hat) and women dress up in "iro ati buba" (i.e. traditional wrapper skirt and blouse top) with coral beads, jewels, gems, rings et cetera.

They met people doing commerce, people trading with cowrie shells as currency, we already had our numbering system. They met us with sixteen major books in the Odu Ifa, these literary corpus, when combined, adds to a total of 256 references to all situations, circumstances, actions and consequences in life based on the uncountable ese (i.e. "poetic tutorials" relative to the 256 Odu coding. I can go on about this rich culture and heritage.

They met people with advanced sculpture technology et cetera. Met people with sense of self governing through institutions like Obas, Baales, Bashorun et cetera in place. Of course we were civilised, but we had some barbarity, heathen practices et cetera that we cant say we were/are proud of. This is fact and the truth.

letu:
[s]Enough of your dubious defamatory behavior/speech towards people of African Continent if you insist on differentiating then stop using such racist term called sub Saharan because the sub means substandard, non Real and non human like Wilde Animals

You should make use of a more logical/rational term which is South Of Saharan, to the question you asked that has to do with achievement's of African of South Of Saharan well that's why you should stop your ridiculous dubious defamatory behavior/speech because it's well know fact that ancient Africans South Of Saharan where developing and Advancing independent without any European influence but that will change when the European conquered South Of Saharan and establishe their colonial empires.

The Europeans used every Power that they have to destroy such Independence by replacing it with their own innovation and developments inwhich starting from that moment eg (Colonial Era) every thing that has to do with advancement in the South Of Saharan most be of White/European/ Foreign origin and it has been like that up to this present day.

1) MEDICINE : Here ancient African Doctors South Of Saharan where independently well established inwhich the went by different names and they have their respective medical specialization eg Doctors for eyes sickness, Doctors for Bone issue, Doctors for skin sickness or issue, Doctors for ear issue, Doctors for teeth problem etc, they all did there medical work independently without any European influence.

2) NUMBERS : When it comes to numbers ancient Africans of South Of Saharan where not left out, in terms of Calculation, Subtraction, Addition, multiplication and geometric maths with it's different forms also binary codes.

3) ART'S : Here ancient Africans of South Of Saharan where very very skilled in this art inwhich they produced various good work of art which where of a good quality.
Also including geometric Art's/maths which includes calculation of length, size, weight, binary codes which is very common with Afa/Ifa system Of Africans South Saharan which they use in their artistic system/rituals, they also understand the mathematical aspect of space and time.

4) ASTROLOGY : Astrology has always been popular with Africans South Of Saharan, inwhich there where many natives that were expert's in this line of work know as Astrology including various independent mystic knowledge and understanding of the constellation, the atmosphere while some mixed their knowledge with other knowledge which gives them the understanding of their environment and able to develop their own Concepts of communal relationship.[/s]

OkCornel, nsiba, look at what the cat dragged in, lmso

Fyi, letu, Sub-Saharan Africa is, geographically and ethnoculturally, the area of the continent of Africa that lies south of the Sahara and acccording to the United Nations, it consists of all African countries and territories that are fully or partially south of the Sahara. Capisce now?

1StopRudeness:
What I hate most is for an dialogue to become a contest....

What I dont like, is when someone doesnt want to admit, accept, recognise and acknowledge they are out of their depth, as you defo are, lmso. Look at you taking pride in being biblically undereducated and on top having delight in your ignorance. Smh.

1StopRudeness:
U are already sounding like someone is fighting with you..so I’m going to ignore a bunch of ur text and the repititions..

If you've gotten to thinking that I sound like someone is fighting with me, then you surely are more confused that a fart let loose on the production floor of a fan making large scale factory

1StopRudeness:
u keep yelling that you ain’t gay..u don’t have to deny... there’s nothing wrong with being gay man....I told u that earlier....
twisting religious scriptures to fit ur gay lifestyle is what is wrong....... I would have love to go into a comprehensive dialogue with you... but the moment you said I’m not making sense .....I realized it a gonna be broken arrow right from the start..it won’t make any sense conversing with someone that won’t understand ....

Maybe if you quit mining straw man, stop personalising and ascribing what I am not on me, I wouldnt have to keep reminding you, I surrender only to the influence of vj power, lmso, not and never d!ck, lmso. I prefer the honeypot and not lollystick(s), if you naimean, lmso

Listen, 1StopRudeness, if you already know that there's nothing wrong, that there's no evil, there's nothing sinful in two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses, enjoying a meaningful life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other in a beautiful lasting life-long, loyal and most importantly, monogamous, same-sex relationship, free of hate, free of lust, free of envy, free of promiscuity et cetera and that has no detriment, injury, damage, harm to each other, no betrayal of each other, or no cheating on each other, and not causing hurt to each other, another person, an animal, object and/or even neighbour, then why demonising and tainting the love they have for each other, huh?

1StopRudeness:
So here’s the little i think will make sense to you.. cos I seem to care a lot about the sex part of ur gay thing......U are here claiming gay men don’t ram d!ck in each others’ aass.. that they just masturbatee..this is funny... I give u pass mark for desperately trying to lie for the whole gay community... that’s thoughtful and kind of you.

I doubt you really are this thick or slow on the uptake, but that its just you being dishonest, shady, insincere and calculatively deliberately misrepresenting what I wrote, when I typed that "Do you at all, know that lot of the sex that gay people have is mutual masturbation, and nothing to do with "ramming their pen!s in a nother man’s asss" sic, using your manner of speaking, lmso, hmm?"

1StopRudeness:
Oga.. speak for urself.. u don’t know what goes on behind people’s closed doors.... if all U do is lie beside ur man and drag each others’ d!ck... CongratuIations....don’t claim that’s what all gay folks do...Masturbation indeed... I guess that’s why the LGBT community is filled with HIV/AIDS

If I say you're an ignoranus, you'll try to deflect it and hold your nose tightly in disgust, as if like you've just got a whiff of a gust of wind coming from Satan's anus, lmso but look at you again, just now flagrantly displaying your ignorance about how and what you know of HIV/AIDS.

Fyi, young buck, infidelity, promiscuity and drug addiction, predominantly are the root cause of HIV/AIDS. Take that as getting a free education, lmso. I can share with you, at your request, the paper on this, lmso (i.e. declassified papers, I mean there)

letu:
Are you sure she's from Nigeria/Africa and also blacks are not the only citizens of present day African Continent, @Donnie just try and over look the fact that he keeps saying Baba this, Baba that, because she may not be what his claiming to be, another thing is the username Muttleylaf, there is no indication that shows if he or she which is the person behind the username Muttleylaf is Male or Female eg the picture below.

Just Fraud a Personality of Modern Day Rome/Babylon.

donnie:
Dazzit.

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Just when you thought it couldn't get confused dot com worse and dumber, lmso. Scam artists calling themselves Israelites, are now accusing others of identity theft and fraud personality.

mariahAngel:
Enough with your incessant mentions!

You know what to do if you dont want to be mentioned

mariahAngel:
I'm not cut out for such nonsense!

Live and let live then. What specifically and exactly is nonsense sef in two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses, enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other in a beautiful lasting life-long, loyal and most importantly, monogamous, same-sex relationship, free of hate, free of lust, free of envy, free of promiscuity et cetera and that has no detriment, injury, damage, harm to each other, no betrayal of each other, or no cheating on each other, and not causing hurt to each other, another person, an animal, object and/or even neighbour, please?

1StopRudeness:
Dialoging with people like u is hard....

Dialoguing with someone as clueless as you is lovely jubbly easy, home run, soft work for me.

1StopRudeness:
... do u understand context at all..?? How can u pick a phrase from a whole text to respond and ignore the entire context... I mean who does that...??

Your whole text was for me piecing together disjointed fragments of worthless information, I made the best out of a very bad situation. Only an able capable and equipped person can do that, not someone ill-equipped, shallow and sparse in depth, like you.

1StopRudeness:
I talked about twisting religious scripture to suit gay narrative..All u had to say about that was that u are not gay... so for u mind u have responded...??

Please entertain me more. Have you got me enjoying an amorous SSA relationship or moment. Have I confided in you that I have same sex attraction feeling, huh? If your answer is no to both those two questions, then why are you slandering me by calling me gay. Why being personal, centring on me instead of the matter itself tabled, huh? I suppose it is easier to personally attack me, to smear me than to face the fact and truth of the matter, isn't it, lmso

Being a sexual minority activist, is miles apart from being gay, my brother friend, lmso

1StopRudeness:
I talked about Muslims that are gay and they don’t go around twisting Quran just becos they want to have sex with same gender...u came and said gay sex isn’t about ramming d!cks into asss..do u know how to converse at all??

You introduced "I've seen Muslims that’s feel like ramming their pen!s in a nother man’s asss ..." though an irrelevance and unrelated, I still out of courtsey replied you back that, so you actually believe that, all same sex attraction relationships involves "ramming their pen!s in a nother man’s asss" sic, hmm, lmso.

Why aren't you able to confirm or refute you actually believe all same sex attraction relationships involves "ramming their pen!s in a nother man’s asss" sic, hmm, lmso?

Do you at all, know that lot of the sex that gay people have is mutual masturbation, and nothing to do with "ramming their pen!s in a nother man’s asss" sic, using your manner of speaking, lmso, hmm?

1StopRudeness:
I finally concluded the issue with all of this is no big deal...then u said opinions can change with truth...what is truth exactly..u gay/gay apologist deliberately ignore fundamental facts and bring up false narrative in the name of truth so as to tag other people who don’t share your views ignorant and homophobic.

I dare you to please table your pseudo fundamental facts. Bring them on, so we both together do a one-to-one contextual thorough and clinical appraisal of these so-called invented fundamental facts, lmso.

1StopRudeness:
u pack ur sexual act under the umbrella love... and claim conservative and religious people don’t want and respect your love..it’s repulsive...

What is particularly is evil in two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses, enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other in a beautiful lasting life-long, loyal and most importantly, monogamous, same-sex relationship, free of hate, free of lust, free of envy, free of promiscuity et cetera and that has no detriment, injury, damage, harm to each other, no betrayal of each other, or no cheating on each other, and not causing hurt to each other, another person, an animal, object and/or even neighbour, please?

1StopRudeness:
whether it’s Hetero love or homo love...no one is criticizing u for loving your follow human ... my best friend is a man, and i love him scatter.... expressing my love for him by wanting to fvck him is a completely different thing...but u gay apologist always try to blur the line...Just like you blue the line the btw:

We are all homo. Homo sapiens, that is, lmso. Smh...

Stop mistaking agape, philia and eros for each other. Why would you ever entertain a thought to want to fvck your best friend man? Havent you your own partner? Are you not faithful, loyal and satisfied enough fvcking only your partner ni, to think that expressing my love for your male friend equates to wanting to fvck him?.

When, where, how have I blurred any line(s)? Bring it on, bring out your proof nah, when, where, how have I blurred any line(s), lmso.

1StopRudeness:
sex and gender
nature’s construct and social construct
Basic human biology and human decision
Animal social behavior and Human behavior...

You make no sense, lmso

1StopRudeness:
Me gay/gay apologist... you can have ur opinion but don’t you ever call me ignorant becos I have a different view from yours over a topic...

You are called ignorant, not because of your entitlement to having an opinion(s), but you are unreservedly and unapologetically called ignorant because you are glaringly ignorant of the biblical truth and natural fact(s) lmso

jmoore:
Jesus Christ did not come through a homosexual couple.
Mary and Joseph, not Mary and Eve.

Whether Yahshua Ha Mashiach, aka Jesu Christ come through a homosexual couple or not, whether Mary and Joseph, not Mary and Eve or even whether Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve, you still are at a lost of telling what particularly is evil in a monogamous faithful homosexual couple relationship

jmoore:
In defending homosexuality, you would end up 'shooting' yourself several times.

How possible will lending my voice to the voiceles end up me according to you 'shooting' myself several times.

jmoore:
You don't even need to be a couple to adopt a baby. Some single folks adopted children.

When you say some homosexual couples have children, you made it sound like they impregnated each other.

If you don't remember that it was you who introduced, asking me to check if I am a product of a homosexual affair, then you must be suffering from amnesia

Stop displaying your habitual ignorance again, if you didnt ask that question, would I have replied with a homosexual couples do have children. I never made any comment that sounded as if homosexual couples impregnated each other.

jmoore:
Homosexuality is insanity because it is insanity.

Did you have to repeat "insanity" twice in your "Homosexuality is insanity because it is insanity" contrived momment ni, lmso? Once is enough. You and your game of unnecessary playing the duplication and confused dot com cards sha, lmso, smh

jmoore:
Show me one individual that came into this word through HOMOSEXUAL REPRODUCTION

You have a disorder called homophobia. It is sometimes curable, but only if you want to cured, now, if I should show you an individual that came into this word through HOMOSEXUAL REPRODUCTION, would this cure you, lmso

jmoore:
Obviously homosexuality has beclouded your reasoning.

Sperm + Sperm = No baby

Eggs + Eggs = No baby

You just proved that homosexuality is insanity.

Who believes a man can impregnate his fellow man?

Will you stop unduly parading your ignorance embarrassingly like this in public?

You want to go in the deep end with abi? You want to go head to head with yeah, lmso? I have just told you that I know many SSA couples who have children, lmso. Now tell, who made you believe that a man can impregnate his fellow man, duh?

OK, can you explain straight sperms gone in, and gay babies coming out? Was sperm involved in the immaculate conception of Yahshua Ha Mashiach, aka Jesu Christ, hmm?

What is more important between impregnation or declaration and expression of love, hmm?

I am still waiting for you to articulate with verifiable proof, what particularly in homosexuality is not only evil, but specifically is insanity, smh sigh.

jmoore:
If you are not a Christian, no debate is needed here.

Dont play the Christian card here with me
What is easier to do, bury your head in the sand with arse showing as if like a bewildered ostrich or have a formal, matured minds, healthy discourse, hmm?

jmoore:
Homosexuality is not only evil, it is insanity.

I accept that to your understanding homosexuality is not only evil, it is insanity, but why is it difficult for you to articulate with verifiable proof, what particularly in homosexuality is not only evil, but is insanity, hmm?

jmoore:
Before you start your lengthy reply, check if you are a product of a homosexual affair.

Though this is an invalid request, coming from any argument that's based on erroneous biblical information and unsound bible based reasoning, I will oblige you. If you must know, personally I am not a product of a homosexual affair, but I know many SSA couples who have children, lmso

jmoore:
If you are not, then you would see you are defending rubbish.

You still are at a lost of saying what exactly in a SSA relationship is rubbish, lmso. You dont know what to say, specifically, is rubbish in a monogamous for life as in until death do part, SSA relationship is.

jmoore:
Christianity doesn't play the CONSENT card.

I careless about Christianity, I stand on and by the undiluted, unadulterated, not mistranslated, undoctored, unaltered, free of distorted insertion(s) far from the original word/text/narrative word of God and/or the Bible

jmoore:
Homosexuality is death.

Homosexuality per se is not death

jmoore:
If a woman has sex with a dog, it would be OK according to your logic.

So according to your perverted, evil and twisted mind, a dog knows it gives consent for a woman to have sex with it. So you dont come across as being sexist, tell nah, how about men having sex with cows, goats, lambs, donkeys et cetera, do these animals in your corrupt reasoning too give consent to men having sex with them, hmm?

jmoore:
Homosexuality is evil!!!

Please free to state clearly and in detail, leaving no room for confusion or doubt, what exactly is evil in two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses, enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other in a beautiful lasting life-long, loyal and most importantly, monogamous, same-sex relationship, free of hate, free of lust, free of envy, free of promiscuity et cetera and that has no detriment, injury, damage, harm to each other, no betrayal of each other, or no cheating on each other, and not causing hurt to each other, another person, an animal, object and/or even neighbour, lmso, hmm?

1StopRudeness:
First.., who told u it’s allowed to write just one English sentense this long .?

Yes, it’s allowed to write just one English sentence this long because extraordinary lies gives way for extraordinary English sentence this long, and yeah, so, I am thankful to God that I have the grace to write one English sentence that long. I never water content down, just because someone hasn’t the capacity to read or can’t handle long and explicit content at 110% proof

1StopRudeness:
Second...there’s nothing wrong with whateva you chose to do with ur life.....it’s ur life......make ur decision and live with it....

Exactamundo!

1StopRudeness:
Third...weda an act is right or wrong has nothing to do with peoples opinion and preference...a lot of people don’t like anti-natural things...it’s prefernce, it’s not hatred... and it’s their opinion..u gay people should understand that....
Atheist don’t like any religion and faith systems, it’s their opinion...and I respect them for it...

Is an animal activist, an animal?. Smh. You just have no idea. Sigh.

1StopRudeness:
However, What’s wrong is twisting faith based scripture to suit ur personal narrative..... u can live ur life outside the principle of biblical doctrines....just as being gay has become an identity to some ...: religion is an identity to some people too ..twisting it is not only insulting its also repulsive.....

What really is repulsive, is the ignorance(s) you've been busy wantonly displaying on this thread and with this post as well. What is really repulsive is you using the bible to justify your discrimination, homophobia and intolerance.

If you don’t like SSA people and how they loyally love themselves, then blame the non SSA people, because they are the ones who keep having SSA babies, they are the ones, who keep having gays/homosexuals, lmso

1StopRudeness:
can u people do so with islam’s doctrine and not get beheaded.??...I've seen Muslims that’s feel like ramming their pen!s in a nother man’s asss... they left the religion so they can express their sexuality... they ddnt go about twisting the Quran just becos they want to have sex...

So you actually believe all same sex attraction relationships involves "ramming their pen!s in a nother man’s asss" sic, hmm, lmso?

1StopRudeness:
Guy!!!!! It’s just sex.... I don’t know why u gay people like to cry over it when people have their opinion....

You really think its just sex abi, lmso? People are free to and can have their opinions, but realise that opinions change in face of truth and facts, lmso. Do you know the difference between fidelity and infidelity, lmso, hmm?

mariahAngel:
Get away from me with your devilish doctrine!

Here, you are mistaken, from not knowing that the fear of the unknown and the other is the root of almost all hate. It is born of ignorance and fed by those who wouldnt replace fear of the unknown with curiosity, lmso

mariahAngel:
... I am not interested in having that conversation with you.

Trolls and biblically undereducated, would not be interested in having that conversation with me, lmso.

Fyi, none of us has the right to ignore context or to wrest scripture out of context, so just to make the Bible say something it doesn't say nor mean in context, but if letting the devil use your mind as a garbage dump, is what you prefer, so be it.

mariahAngel:
So, what they said about you then was the truth!

"No one who gossips can be trusted with a secret, but you can put confidence in someone who is trustworthy."
- Proverbs 11:13

"A gossip betrays a confidence; so avoid anyone who talks too much"
- Psalms 20:19

"Keep your tongue from evil, and your lips from speaking lies (i.e. about/of others)"
- Psalms 34:13

Rumors travel faster than the speed of light, lmso. You have been listening to the devils's radio and watching the devil's channel child, lmso.

Rumors are carried by haters, spread by fools and accepted by idiotas. mariahAngel, if gossip were food, I suppose you should overweight by now. It is a shame that people like you are so quick to believe the bad, untrue, incorrect comments made about someone else. Dont you know that gossip is a dangerous tool? Why are you using gossip as a bonding tool, hmm? Dont you know that gossip hurts the body of Christ, erhn? Dont you know that gossips divides, it slanders, it produces strife, it separates brethren/sisters, and above all, dont you know that it is sin to gossip, lmso.

mariahAngel, please never again indulge in gossip, because gossip is normally based on lies and about someone wanting to feel better about themselves, by hurting someone else and destroying the other person's good character, lmso. Life is too short, so learn to cut out negativity and/or negative energy, lmso.

mariahAngel:
... No wonder you couldn't answer directly when I asked you...you kept on going in circles

Say to my face and in public, what allegedly I couldn't answer directly when you asked me ...and I kept on going in circles about, lmso.

I am sure you havent considered the Proverbs 11:13 truth that you're gossiper and so, a person not to be trusted with the truth, lmso

Kobojunkie:
I don't know the heart of the @OP but I do know that every word that Jesus Christ said ought to carry equal weight in our hearts. "Go Home and Sin No More" carries the same weight as "I have come to save and not to condemn". Halving the truth diminishes it's quality as truth, do you not know?

Trying to make one seem more important than the other is what the Satan actually tried to do to Jesus Christ in the wilderness, and honestly, that is what Satan does a lot. Satan approached Jesus Christ with half-truths, but Jesus, being the Truth of God, countered Him with the full Truth of God. And I believe Jesus Christ did mention this somewhere in the Gospels when He spoke of How Satan was more focused on things that did not matter.

That is why it is important to consider the Truth of God in the context that it was given, always. For when we intentionally quote half of what was said without including the rest of it, we play the same game that Satan tried to play on Jesus Christ in the wilderness.

My view of the OP is that the converation is between a curious son and a Dad who uses avoidance to steer his son away from that which he, the dad, percieves as evil.

Where there Homosexuals when Jesus Christ was on earth? Absolutely! Did Jesus target them, to warn them against sinning? Likely not. Why? Because if you read closely, the gospels, you will see that Jesus focused mainly on teaching His disciples on the commandments that entailed the Covenant that He represented and nothing more. He did not spend time dwelling on issues outside of what He came for. As His Followers, we ought also to follow His example, dwelling only on that which He, our one and ONLY teacher, taught us to dwell on, and nothing more.

Jesus Christ condemned false teachers/prophets/priests/ all those who pretended to come in the name of the Lord, and barely said anything about actual sinners. Go figure!

Important to consider the Truth of God in the context that it was given, always, is not something ingrained anywhere in the psyche (i.e. human soul, mind and spirit) of homophobic bigots, lmso.

jmoore:
And you are not aware that homosexuality movement has crawled into the church?

I am not bothered about atheists who support homosexuality.

The op and folks like him are like the Pharisees that Jesus condemned. Go figure!!

And you are not aware that promiscuity movement has crawled into the church?

The OP and folks like him, whatever that means, aren't at all like the Pharisees that Jesus condemned, but you my dear sire jmoore and others of like mind, that toe your line, are the modern day equivalent of the Pharisees, that Yashua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ was ever at loggerheads with

Now brethren Kobojunkie and jmoore, I dare youse to respond to this question, lmso. Since Kobojunkie typed that he/she doesnt know the heart of the @OP, then I wouldnt mind tobechi74 too have a go at the below asked question, lmso. In fact, special invite is extended to ggirl4real, mariahAngel and 1StopRudeness to come answer the question as well, lmso

What exactly is the evil and/or what particularly is sinful, in two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses, enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other in a beautiful lasting life-long, loyal and most importantly, monogamous, same-sex relationship, free of hate, free of lust, free of envy, free of promiscuity et cetera and that has no detriment, injury, damage, harm to each other, no betrayal of each other, or no cheating on each other, and not causing hurt to each other, another person, an animal, object and/or even neighbour, lmso, hmm?

tobechi74:
Front page

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Smh, this bit of for the fame of "Front page" blarney, betrayed your real reason for creating and/or opening the thread.

Anyway, all I've read are comments from naive, homophobic, ignorant and biblical undereducated interlocutors, like ggirl4real, jmoore, mariahAngel and 1StopRudeness, who dont know what homosexuality or same sex attraction, that's of or between two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses, enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other in a beautiful lasting life-long, loyal and most importantly, monogamous, same-sex relationship, free of hate, free of lust, free of envy, free of promiscuity et cetera and that has no detriment, injury, damage, harm to each other, no betrayal of each other, or no cheating on each other, and not causing hurt to each other, another person, an animal, object and/or even neighbour, is about, lmso

lonikit:
I think alter call has no relationship with salvation. salvation is something that happens in the heart and raising of hands and moving out to the alter during a crusade has nothing to do with it. in fact, it discourages some people because they are used to alter call and yet, no evidence of salvation in their lives. I also think there is no injunction to that in the bible so, why indoctrinating it.

"³⁰Then he brought them out and asked, “Sirs, what must I do to be saved?”
³¹They replied, “Believe in the Lord Jesus and you will be saved, you and your household."
- Acts 13:31-32

"If you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord,"
and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved."
- Romans 10:9

"Therefore everyone who confesses Me before men, I will also confess him before My Father in heaven."
- Matthew 10:32

"I tell you, everyone who confesses Me before men, the Son of Man will also confess him before the angels of God."
- Luke 12:8

The altars called forward, is for them, one of the beginning of making disciples of all nation steps. A small step for man, a big step for mankind

Kobojunkie:
The very term 'altar' ought to be questioned here. Whose altar? Definitely, Jesus Christ never called anyone to set up, let alone step before any altars for His sake, so how could some sort of call to an arbitrary 'altar' have anything to do with Jesus Christ in anyway?

"Do you not know that you yourselves are God’s temple, and that God’s Spirit dwells in you?"
- 1 Corinthians 3:16

"Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit in you, whom you have from God?
And you are not your own"
- 1 Corinthians 6:19

The very person stepping forward is the temple of God, with an altar within his/her body, lmso. There is nothing wrong in doing an altar call forward midwife style delivery assistance deliverance from the old and past into the new now and future

HedwigesMaduro:
Maybe I used the word "outwit" in a wrong context. What I actually meant was that He wanted to show Satan that He (God) would, and will always win ...

Tbh with you, it really was a matter of God showing satan up, for what and who Satan really is. It's just a shame, that Satan has no shame because he sure looked stupid upon inflicting his worst on Job, Job was still unflinching "No retreat. No surrender" determination throughout the whole tasking Satan from every possible angle relentless onslaught ordeal.

I mean why at God's glowing remark about Job, couldn't Satan just be happy for Job and his lot, but instead was mad keen and eager to inflict serious physical grievous bodily harm, damage and ruin to Job, his family and everything thing in sight that Job owns, if not for taking the life of Job off the cards, that would have served to be Satan's first pot-shot. I mean what manner of despicable and nauseating being does something like that, if not killjoy Satan, smh

HedwigesMaduro:
... But thanks for the correction. Shalom.

Dont worry about that brother because as it happens, a candle loses nothing by lighting up another candle, lmso.

CodeTemplar:
The point is why did God permit it against Job.

There is a western part of the country colloquial, that says:
"Ti ogun, ẹni, ba, daniloju, a maa, jẹnlẹngẹ, fi gba ori" which when loosely translated, means:
"When you have confidence in your juju charm, you can knack or smack it on your head, safely and gently without worrying about having any problem"

God had so much pride and faith in Job, he was proud to show off Job to Satan, asking whether or not, Satan, from gallivanting upandan the earth, had at all did notice Job, His servant ...

Apparently, Satan had made previous unsuccessful attempts to get at Job, when he inadvertently confessed about the impregnable hedge that God had protectively placed round about Job.

HedwigesMaduro:
To prove a point to the devil that He would and will always outwit him?

"⁶One day when the sons of God came to stand in front of the LORD, Satan the Accuser came along with them.
⁷The LORD asked Satan, "Where have you come from?" Satan answered the LORD, "From wandering all over the earth."
⁸The LORD asked Satan, "Have you thought about my servant Job? No one in the world is like him! He is a man of integrity: He is decent, he fears God, and he stays away from evil."
⁹Satan answered the LORD, "Haven't you given Job a reason to fear God?
¹⁰Haven't you put a protective fence around him, his home, and everything he has? You have blessed everything he does. His cattle have spread out over the land.
¹¹But now stretch out your hand, and strike everything he has. I bet he'll curse you to your face."
¹²The LORD told Satan, "Everything he has is in your power, but you must not lay a hand on him!" Then Satan left the LORD's presence."
- Job 1:6-12

God doesnt outwit, that's something within the purview of Satan Outwitting, is one of Satan's modus operandi, not and never God's.

The point why God permitted the dare challenge to happen to Job, is to let Satan know that he is a loser, any place, any day and forever all the time, besides God has so much trust and confidence in Job, and Job justified God's complete faith in him with flying colours.

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"Then Sarah said,
“God has made me laugh,
and everyone who hears of this will laugh with me.”"
- Genesis 21:6

A day without laffing, is a day wasted. Always laugh, while you can, it is cheap medicine

Dtruthspeaker:
Okay, I do respect your opinion even though you are wrong here but it is ok to disagree sometimes.

For I think you missed the weight where our Lord clearly says "My words are spirit and Life (Life, which we are pursuing). By the direct literal interpretation, one must come to the conclusion that Christ is saying that Life is Found in His Words.

Which Words? Answer = All that He Taught!

His resurrection was just to Show Us How Great He is (among all the other Greatness He had Shown Us already eg Devils took permission from Him, fed a stadium of people etc) and that death, is His servant, like us, therefore, we should have no fear of it.

For death, listens to Him and does His bidding as Proven by Lazarus, the young lad and Darius' Daughter, then Finally, Himself! Wow what a Great Performance He Put up for us to see and know that He is the Lord indeed!

With that Performance, He dealt a great crushing of all that we fear whether diseases or devils or hunger etc.

As Christ would say an evil tree must bear evil fruit, a good tree, good fruit, Nothing must bear nothing (Nothing can come out from nothing as we say) and Something must bring up something conversely.

So also death (Adam/Eve) must give birth to death (us) and Life (Christ) must give birth to Life (us when we eat His Flesh and drink His Blood, Which is His words (Teachings).

"Verily, verily, If a man keep my sayings, he shall never see death" John 8:51

Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication.

With all due respect, Dtruthspeaker, please be succinct, crisp and straight to the point next time you make posts like this because without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness as everything must be purified with blood, meaning that, Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ, purposefully came to die.

I tell you the solemn truth, unless a kernel of wheat falls into the ground and dies, it remains by itself alone. But if it dies, it produces much grain. The Son of God, became a man, to from resurrection, enable men/women to become sons/daughters of God.

Raising Lazarus of Bethany from the dead, was a test run public display to show that Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ can bring back to life a dead person, even four days after entombment.

Dtruthspeaker, Lazarus was dead four days, while Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ' was three days, here's to picking your brain:

1/ What do you think would have happened to the corpses after 3-5 days? What do you expect to be happening to the dead bodies, after death, circa 3-5 days?
2/ Why didnt/doesn't your answer in #1 above have the same effect on both their cadavers, I am particularly in), lmso.terested in your answer in regards to Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ?. You may support your answer with credible biblical account(s) or verse(s) lmso

Acehart:
You may be having a brain tumor. Go and have an MRI scan as soon as possible.

It is an early sign of HBP due to high blood sugar and round the corner, insulin resistance, type 2 diabetes, cardiovascular disease, stroke and dementia in chronic cases, when it worsens.

OlawaleBammie, thank God, by design the human body is made to self heal itself. You can reverse and/or keep this in check by sudden radical turn around healthy dietary lifestyle.

If you have data to watch video content, then, I have sent you an email request, so to send you a link of a video I watched earlier while researching some other unrelated matter.

If you prefer something other than video, then try to read "The Maker's Diet - The 40-day health experience that will change your life forever" by Jordan S Rubin.

If you cant get your hands on the above book, which I personally have a hardcopy of, then opt for "The Maker's Diet Revolution: The 10 DAY Diet" by Jordan Rubin. It is equally as good as the former other 40-Day book. I can send you a soft copy link of this book, if you want me to.

I can see from your comments, you rebuking stroke, well I hope wisdom (i.e. positive, correct and good decision(s)) will make you take this seriously so that all these warning signs wouldn't get to the the point of stroke et cetera.
cc: LordReed

Oopsy daisy. Sorry about the above Acehart and here I was looking forward to reading your response or reaction to a post I have prepped up here, soon to upload

Blabbermouth, did you on page 13, immediately just above my other response to you, have your post hidden on account you mentioning/quoting me and even got a banned for it too. Sorry about that. Its a shame we cant see what you posted. What point were you trying to get across.

Anyway, my comment just below your hidden post is a series of replies to you playing being a stranger to the Godhead and other issue in your post that I addressed, lmso

Testing, if this post will get hidden or not

PS: Ken4Christ, calm down, you are mistaking, what the biblical correct meaning of "torment" is.

Also if you understand what Gehenna is, and how it is used by Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ, then you'll have a good understanding of what "everlasting" means with respect to describing the fire in the Lake of Fire, lmso. Do you at all know, how the soul of the man, in the rich man and Lazarus parable told by Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ, was tormented?

Ken4Christ:
The soul goes to hell. The story of the rich man and Lazarus settles it. Even Jonah went to hell. Our Lord Jesus went to hell on account of us because he was made sin for us on the cross.

There is more to what you learned, know and understanding hell to be brother. Read on to get a proper handle on this please, lmso

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MuttleyLaff:
Hell or better put, Hades, actually is, a Greek concept, and the Jews, in reality have no concept of Hell or Hades, they have Sheol, alright, but as for the concept of Hell or Hades, this is a Greek one.

Now Ken4Christ, it will interest you to appreciate, that, Sheol is more of a proper and real biblical Israelite concept of where the dead are ''interned'' Sheol in an oversimplified or elementary manner can be grave and/or has been referred to as grave

Grave aka tomb, crypts, ossuaries, sepulchre sites, cemetery, catacombs, mausoleum et cetera are merely places of deposit for a corpse. So Blabbermouth, Sheol is the realm of where the dead or departed souls are confined, sent down into, held et cetera.

Contrary to popular belief, souls, do not linger in the air. Souls, do not stay in limbo. Souls, do not hang about. Souls, do not make revisits et cetera

Ken4Christ, real magic happens when you understand the "how" So this is "how" the real magic happened/happens. Over here, we accept Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior of the whole wide world, believe in Him as the Son of God, by default become automatically born-again (i.e. born from high) and because of the confession with mouth, that “Jesus is Lord,” and believing in our heart that God raised Him from the dead, we are saved by His grace, but here is the thing, until Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ in the New Testament astonishing interjection, Sheol, in general, to the Jews, without necessarily distinguishing between righteous or unrighteous souls, has been the realm of the dead or abode of the dead. Period.

We have verses in OT (e.g. Psalm 9:17 etcetera) suggesting that the wicked go to Sheol but it was, Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ in the New Testament that brought things into perspective when He shared the hyperbolic illustration of Sheol with the story of the Rich Man being elsewhere and Abraham with the Poor Man being on a different side.

Remember Ken4Christ, just like because if you're telling a joke, it doesn't necessarily mean, the joke is devoid of some element of truth and reality, so is the case with the parable of the rich man and poor man hyperbolic illustration, given by Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ

Digging in deeper into this. Sheol (i.e. the original Hebrew concept of afterlife) now, has gray lines shared with Gehenna (i.e. the refuse dump in Jerusalem hyperbolically referred to, by Jesus in Matthew 5:29 Matthew 18:9 and Mark 9:47) and Hell (i.e. a Greek mythology and Greek concept of afterlife) which arent by most, really understood.

The etymology of afterlife from a Jewish concept (i.e. Sheol, with 2 sections) has changed over time and Sheol, since, has being interchangeably replaced with Gehenna and Hell/Hades

Reiterating, Hell which has become synonymous with Hades, is neither Hebrew or Greek in origin. Sheol is, what you'll find in the original Hebrew text for any word for Hell. In other places, Hades or Hell was the Greek substitution for the part of Sheol where the Rich man is, from the Parable of the Rich Man and lazarus

As a matter of fact, Hell, actually finds it roots in the classic Greek mythology, Hades, where Hades interestingly and actually, was the ancient Greek god of the underworld's name. This god's name (i.e. Hades) later turned to mean the place or abode of the dead, which actually is exactly what Sheol is, what is signifies or represents.

If we are to talk about Gehenna, well it is a valley, a valley in Jerusalem, used as a dumping refuse site and so was used by Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ to depict the Lake of fire (i.e. it is a place of destruction, as in, via incineration, a place for destroying things)

As I have earlier mentioned, where Gehenna was the incinerating refuse dump in Jerusalem, Hades however, historically and originally is the name of a Greek god until it got turned to meaning the place or abode of the dead. It later got interchanged with Hell, which is from a German word root.

It was bible translators who were substituting the original Hebrew word Sheol (i.e. the part where the dead of the Rich man sort are), with Greek counterparts Hades/Hell that made the legacy word(s), Hades/Hell, stick with us today

Death, is not a physical person but it will cease to exist because it will be destroyed when figuratively thrown into a physical lake of fire

Ken4Christ, on a side note, this might interest you, do you know that in Yoruba spirituality, there is the absence of a concept of sin and that doubly interesting, in same Yoruba spirituality, there is the absence eternal damnation or any kind of judgement after the end of the world. Yoruba spirituality happens to be Hell/Hades/Lake of Fire agnostic

I hope, Ken4Christ, you didn't find my the "how" explanation long winded, just as I did advanced warn

There are three classes of posters on this thread and generally on the Religion forum, those who see, those who see when they are shown and those who do not see, just like the immediate two above me

Ken4Christ:
You don't even know what your organization teach about the second coming of Jesus. They don't believe Jesus is coming back. In fact, they teach he came back since 1914.

AkinwaleJJ:
Jesus actually visited the spiritual Temple that year to cleanse it, just as he did in the first century. But his second coming will be to judge the world!

Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ, actually in the 33¹/₂ years of Him being on earth, came so that your human body, that currently is an earth suit, when you snuff it, the spirit within that human body, will return back to its Owner but your soul, that is has ben consecrated by the shedding of the precious blood of Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ, to become a temple of God, for where the Godhead dwells, will go to rest and to a waiting place, pending the day of judgment when your soul will come forward to give account for every careless word spoken you uttered. You'll have to explain the reason(s) for your every word, thought and deed. For, I am sure, you get the point, that, the spirit breathed into man goes back to God after death, the body disintegrates, decomposes, breaks up, goes back to being dust, and that, the soul however goes a place, to await judgement at the appointed time. On that day, during that time, by your words, you will be acquitted, and by your words, you will be condemned, lmso. May God have mercy on hardened souls, lmso. These simples, harsh realities of life, should be enough for the wise to take note of, lmso.