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Christianity Etc › Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by MuttleyLaff: 12:52pm On Aug 30, 2020
DappaD:
Fabricating lies from what you said with your own mouth abi? grin

The post I cropped out from your former post is up there for anybody willing to know which of us is telling the lies grin
As if somebody will beat you if you agree you have gaps in your knowledge undecided
No wahala Mr MuttleyLaff continue grin
I am still waiting for you to reproduce, the exact word for word of where I allegedly had said: "the ‘spirit’[ruach] at Ecclesiastes 12:7 meant God's holy spirit"

You should go hide your face in a corner for being abysmally found wanting and with your pants down.

Now if you manage to calm down and return back with what is the Aramaic/Hebrew word for the breathe of God and what is the Aramaic/Hebrew word for the Holy Spirit, then you might get an epiphany
Christianity Etc › Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by MuttleyLaff: 12:42pm On Aug 30, 2020
DappaD:
Mr MuttleyLaff undecided
I am more interested in why you had to equate the breath of life in humans to God's holy spirit.
Periodt.
Of course, you would be more interested in continuing to fabricate more lies and shifting the goal post from the first lie you originally concocted

Also you cant bring yourself to answer those two easy, simple, harmless, innocent, straightforward questions because you know answering them will let your sin find you out.

It must be how you all are taught in JW. There's no explanation for the reason why and how you are this so good in being shifty and skilled in peddling lies, except that you learned from your father, the devil, who himself, is the father of lies.
Christianity Etc › Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by MuttleyLaff: 12:35pm On Aug 30, 2020
DappaD:
Abi you wan tell me say you no know Maths? grin
Go argue with the Transitivity law nah
I Don hear you grin
[img]https://s5/images/MuttleyLaffSLJackonStare.gif[/img]
"Abosi akan, omi ni ootu" loosely translated means "Water exposes a rogue crab"
People don't like the truth. The truth doesn't taste good when it's in a belly full of lies.

1/ What is the Aramaic/Hebrew word for the breathe of God?
2/ What is the Aramaic/Hebrew word for the Holy Spirit?
Christianity Etc › Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by MuttleyLaff: 12:25pm On Aug 30, 2020
DappaD:
Perhaps I made an error with the Scripture you quoted.

But you did say ‘the breath of life’/‘spirit’at Genesis 2:7 is God's holy spirit/spirit of God which is an erroneous blunder Mr MuttleyLaff.

Look at the underlined words.
And last time I checked, the ‘spirit/breath of life’ at Genesis 2:7 is exactly the same impersonal spirit/breath/lifeforce mentioned at Ecclesiastes 12:7.

From the Law of Transitivity in Mathematics: A=B, B=C, A=C; this statement holds with regards to the claim you made last year so I maintain my stand when I say you have gaps in your knowledge as to what God's holy spirit is.
[img]https://media./images/e3544b8117d3ecbb0cb8751f1ce0ff71/tenor.gif[/img]
Where is my apology?

Yahusha Ha Mashiach saves.
Only Him can save you. Smh.
I'll drum it in your blocked ears again. Context is King. Stop misinterpreting what I typed and doing so in isolation of the whole content
Christianity Etc › Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by MuttleyLaff: 12:16pm On Aug 30, 2020
DappaD:
You're misconstruing that Isaiah 9:6 scripture oo undecided
Are you saying that mortal men and the other angels in heaven haven't been called this title “Mighty God”[El Gibbor] before?
Well for your information, Moses was God[El Gibbor] when he stood before Pharaoh—Exodus 7:1
Angels in heaven are also mighty gods—Psalm 103:20 so that title isn't exclusive to one person only.
Typical prooftexting, why not read Exodus 7:1 close enough to see, how and who made Moshe aka Moses, seem like God to Pharaoh, hmm? Read closely enough to see who bestowed Moshe aka Moses, the privilege to be a divine representative of God before Pharaoh. Tsk. Smh

DappaD:
WizzyVine I won't continue with you much longer, seeing your questions are merely repetitive.
The end ni opin cinema
Christianity Etc › Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by MuttleyLaff: 12:04pm On Aug 30, 2020
WizzyVine:
Michael died for your sins? Laughable.
DappaD:
Yes Michael the archangel died to rescue me from sin and death
— Matthew 20:28, Colossians 1:13,14, 1Timothy 2:6
[img]https://s5/images/sourcecfa79666e8110220.gif[/img]
Christianity Etc › Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by MuttleyLaff: 12:02pm On Aug 30, 2020
DappaD:
OK OK
So only DappaD is “unrepentant irredeemable shameless bare faced liar” because I pointed out the blunder you made. undecided
No wahala I've heard you grin
You are a bonafide and kofam unrepentant irredeemable shameless bare faced liar because you fabricated a pack of lies.

Now when you were asked to bring evidence of me where, according to your lies, I said "the ‘spirit’[ruach] at Ecclesiastes 12:7 meant God's holy spirit" you were abysmally found wanting and with your pants down.

Is that what you're taught to learn at JW? Smh. Inventing malicious stories and misleading the readership with it, hmm?
Christianity Etc › Re: G.O.A.T. Movie: Son Of God - How The Logos Devolved For Humanity. by MuttleyLaff: 11:51am On Aug 30, 2020
Blabbermouth:
Done.

"The day" is the determining factor here. That same day, did they die physically? No! That same day, were they separated from God (spiritual death)? Yes!
There you have it.
I'll pause to give you time to go over the bible references but when I typed that I also would pleased, if you would respond to all my comments to your given 10 answers and that you provide your answers to the two above outstanding unanswered questions from the 10+2 questions, I had edited the questions to look as below. So please have another go and as usual, dont hold back and dont leave any stone unturned for these three questions. Thank you

Out of curiosity, what is your understanding of significance and take of the meaning of:
1/ "do not to eat of the TKGE because the day you do, you'll surely die"?
2/ What is the TKGE itself and all about?
3/ What in the original text does the sense of "...you'll surely die" convey or mean?

I would adress your replies to the 10 scored questions after you've finished going over the bible references.

May I warn you that before you make hasty replies to the three above questions, please bear in mind that scripture wasn't originally written in English language, English expression, English idioms and/or English parlances. Just a friendly and brotherly cautionary warning and advice, before you go slip on a banana peel, as I've noticed you done, at your first attempt before the edit
Christianity Etc › Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by MuttleyLaff: 11:20am On Aug 30, 2020
DappaD:
Okay so you're looking for who will tell you that you made an erroneous blunder shocked
Remain there na grin
You are an unrepentant irredeemable shameless bare faced liar, just like your father, the devil. You have moved from concocting false accusations to erroneous blunder now, abi?. I knew you had no proof to substantiate your falsehood with in the first place. Continue there, OK? You go soon hear.
Christianity Etc › Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by MuttleyLaff: 11:08am On Aug 30, 2020
DappaD:
You need not mind MuttleyLaff and his misapplication of Scriptures.
The same person who said the ‘spirit’[ruach] at Ecclesiastes 12:7 meant God's holy spirit grin
What do you think he cannot do again grin
MuttleyLaff:
[img]https://media./images/14cd04951335766288c672c30e186f98/tenor.gif[/img]
What the blooming heck?

Now you better reproduce here verbatim where MuttleyLaff, did misapplication of Scriptures and typed or said: "‘spirit’[ruach] at Ecclesiastes 12:7 meant God's holy spirit"

In the failure of doing that, in the absence of providing the word for word quote, be prepared to retract your slander to eat your words and offer an unreserved apology for falsely misrepresenting whatever I did type angry angry angry
DappaD:
Go ahead... Lie, let them see who you truly are
I'm not jobless else I'd have dug it out by now
MuttleyLaff:
"You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father.
He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him.
Whenever he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own nature, for he is a liar and the father of lies
"
- John 8:44

Na dem, na dem, one of the many out there, the accuser of our brethren
No surprises he isnt able to find anything to dig up, especially when it does not exist
It'll be looking for a black cat, in a dark room, when there wasn't a cat, in the first place to go look for. You'll end up sweating like as if a pig, in the futile adventure exercise
DappaD:
Among the countless blunders you made in one post, I was able to single out where you asserted that.

MuttleyLaff: 4:36am On Nov 19, 2019

Saying the breath of life is the same as God holy spirit is one of the worst Scriptural blunders you can make, EVER.
Ara adugbo, ẹjọ, ẹ surubomika, ẹ wa gba mi ooo, lọwọ awọn ase ọmọ araiye ooo.

DappaD, besides the fact that context is king, where in the whole content did you find MuttleyLaff type that "the ‘spirit’[ruach] at Ecclesiastes 12:7 meant God's holy spirit" hmm? Where instead of this appalling conjecture did MuttleyLaff type that "the ‘spirit’[ruach] at Ecclesiastes 12:7 meant God's holy spirit" hmm? Where is the verbatim. Smh. I know who your father is. KMT
Christianity Etc › Re: G.O.A.T. Movie: Son Of God - How The Logos Devolved For Humanity. by MuttleyLaff:
Blabbermouth:
I didn't say "alright" because I was wrong though. Concerning the 10 questions you asked, my answers won't be satisfactory as I believe in certain things you don't and you believe in certain things I don't.
MuttleyLaff:
Numbers 32:23b says:
"... sin against the Yahweh; be sure your sin will catch up with you"

Is it your conscience pricking you or what, hmm?


You arent being honest to yourself my dear friend beloved dear brother because whether your answers are going to be satisfactory is neither here nor there. Also what I believe in and what you believe, doesnt prevent me from throwing investigative or probing questions at you that I expect you to, if you are not hiding anything, to honestly sincerely and truthfully answer

I guess you are afraid to face the reality of the answers you'll be giving to the 10 easy, simple, direct, harmless, innocent straightforward questions, so you rather stave them off than come face to face with the questions

Smh, even the "Please be fair and stop making unrighteous judgment(s) you cant back up" above questions too, reproduced below, you couldn't bring yourself to honestly, sincerely and truthfully give answers to:

1/ Did God not warn A&E about not eating the fruit from the TKGE?
2/ Is that really not doing anything?
Blabbermouth:
Conscience?! God forbid! My view depicts God as just, Loving and Perfect. What's the conscience there?? Believing a future exist is 1,000 problem to the WHO GOD IS of God. So bro, no conscience, it's me coming to realize that humans feel safe believing some fantasy future and destiny exist.
I've planted a seed though, you and Shade will one day exclaim in your mind and say "Ohhhh, this was what that Blabber guy was all on about."

Smiless....I will answer you then.
MuttleyLaff:
[img]https://s5/images/MuttleyLaffDrinkRollEye.gif[/img]
You have planted a seed alright.
It is called a seed of deceit, a seed of corruption, an evil seed. What an evil tangled web, you've weaved yourself in, as you continue practising your self deceit(s) Every seed brings forth after its kind. No surprises, at the sort of seed you've religiously and being busy planting



Blabbermouth:
1/ Name who principally or primary are in the Godhead (i.e. Elohim) of Genesis 1:27
ANSWER #1:
I don't force interpretations, no names were mentioned.
=>(check) ✓ 0/10
You are marked down zero, for refusing to say who comprise the Godhead, called/addressed/featured in Genesis 1:27, as Elohim


Blabbermouth:
2/ At what point did God, the Spirit become God the Father, what point did the Word, (i.e. Logos) become the Son, and what point did the seven distinct expression of the God, the Spirit, become the Holy Spirit?
ANSWER #2:
Kaboom! God has never been at a point incomplete that he would start adding modifications later. The holy spirit has always been God's spirit. God the spirit never became God the father.
=>(check) ✓ 0/10
You are marked down zero, for going off tangent and for being evasive, all in the quest to prevent self-revelation & self-discovery take its course.

1/ Concerning "At what point did God, the Spirit, become God the Father? ..." what is your impression of Luke 1:35, Matthew 1:18, Matthew 4:3, John 1:34, John 1:49, John 20:31, Matthew 1:20 et cetera

2/ Concerning "...what point did the Word, (i.e. Logos) become the Son?... " what is your impression of John 1:14, John 8:42 & John 16:28 (i.e. using the Greek word "exerchomai" meaning in English to proceed forth from, project to go or come out of) Philippians 2:6, Isaiah 9:6, Isaiah 40:3 et cetera

3/ Concerning "...and what point did the seven distinct expression of the God, the Spirit, become the Holy Spirit?" what is your impression of Isaiah 11:2, Revelation 1:4, Revelation 3:1, Revelation 4:5, Revelation 5:6, John 15:26, Joel 2:28 & Acts 2:17, Acts 1:4, Luke 24:49, John 14:26 et cetera


Blabbermouth:
3/ Is God resigned and/or limited to just Three Persons?
ANSWER #3:
No. God is not limited.
=>(check) ✓ 20/10
You are marked 20 out of 10, scoring full and above the score because of your honesty and for as a matter of fact directly just answering the question. Thank you and I hope you continue in this form


Blabbermouth:
4/ What is God's name? What is the implication of this name that God didnt reveal to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob?
ANSWER #4:
"I AM THAT I AM" is the name I believe you want to hear.
=>(check) ✓ 5/10
I actually scored you zero here because answering the question has nothing to do with what you believe I want to hear or hear not, but I had a change of heart to be just and fair with you. You are the subject, not me. Its your honest, sincere and truthful answer that is of interest to me, and not whatever it is think, you believe I want to hear.

You scored half the score here because you left the other half of the question unanswered


Blabbermouth:
5/ Is the answer given in #4a above really God's personal name?
ANSWER #5:
No.
=>(check) ✓ 20/10
I totally like how YOU gave a confident and emphatic NO answer there, hence why or how you overscored.


Blabbermouth:
6/ What fundamental problems was God solving that necessitated the creation of mankind? (i.e. A&E and their progeny)
ANSWER #6:
No problem in sight.
=>(check) ✓ 0/10
Tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk. OK, I won't push you any further on this. I have all I need to know. Thank you for your honesty of not being aware of any problems like sin and the vacuum/vacancy sin caused necessitating God finding a lasting solution and replacement strategy


Blabbermouth:
7/ Did God have an objective to achieve and purpose for creating A&E?
ANSWER #7:
Many....
I. Intimacy
II. Express image of God
III. Dominion over the earth
=>(check) ✓ 5/10
You scored half the full mark because you didnt mention the fundamental aim and purpose for creating A&E backed up with scripture like particularly Genesis 1:26, talking of "Let Us make man in Our image, after Our likeness," and Genesis 1:27 that talked of "So God (i.e. Elohim/the Godhead) created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them"

Concerning Genesis 1:26, Genesis 1:27 and Genesis 5:1-2 what is your impression of Genesis 5:3?


Blabbermouth:
8/ Would you agree that "Though this be madness, yet there is method in it?"
ANSWER #8:
No madness in sight.
=>(check) ✓ 0/10

You were marked down because from the beginning there was madness in sight. The Aramaic/Hebrew used in Genesis 1:2 is "tohu" and it means and signifies chaos, madhouse, shambles, confusion et cetera.

Of course, if you are going to be honest, sincere and truthful to yourself, you will admit that the word "method" means, a particular procedure for accomplishing or approaching something, especially a systematic or established one, which exactly is what God is doing and has all along continue to be doing. It patiently following process, waited for 4000 years before fulfilling the proto evangelium promised in Genesis 3:15 to Eve


Blabbermouth:
9/ Is it hard or impossible for God to project Himself out, so to simultaneously and/or concurrently exist on earth and Heaven?
ANSWER #9:
It's not impossible. Howbeit, he didn't tell you/us that He did so.
=>(check) ✓ 5/10
Wehdone Sir but who asked you whether or not He didn't tell me/us that He did so, hmm? Just stick to parameters of the question, see how it cost you a full or even more than full score.

Concerning your impetuous and overhasty "He didn't tell you/us that He did so" addendum reply, what is your impression of Matthew 1:23, Isaiah 7:14, Isaiah 9:6 et cetera?


Blabbermouth:
10/ Give two examples of a Being that has demonstrated the ability and power to see into humans' heart, know their thoughts, tell what they're thinking, or what they desire. In other words, here is one from 1 Samuel 9:19 and 1 Samuel 10:19&26, so please give your two different examples please
ANSWER #10:
Dem boku!
1. God
2. Jesus
[s]3. Many guys with very active gifts of the spirits that i've encountered[/s]
4. Prophet (sometimes call seer)
=>(check) ✓ 8/10
You were marked two points down for not giving fact checking bible references, just as like how I did when asking the question

Your #3 & #4 were crossed out because there are beings and not Being. I didn't want to penalise you for not paying attention to how exactly the question was framed and you introducing out of scope elements

Do you see that answering the 10 easy, simple, direct, harmless, innocent straightforward questions did you no harm and weren't anything to be intimidated of, be afraid of, be hesitant/resistant to respond to, hmm?

Now you omitted answering these left over two questions though, which are:
1/ Did God not warn A&E about not eating the fruit from the TKGE?
2/ Is that really not doing anything?

I was going to turn on the heat, raise the temperature higher on you, but when going back to review a couple of your past interactions with shadeyinka, my eye caught, I think more than one time, at least 3 times apparently on one post page, you saying "I speak as a man", that was your saving grace, and how I backed down, lifted my foot off the throttle, loosened my steel clasped grip, stepped back and away and smh resignedly saying to myself "no wonder"

Now I really would like to engage you a little further on because I can see the numerous knowledge gaps in your theology. I also would please if you would respond to all my comments to your given 10 answers and that you provide your answers to the two above outstanding unanswered questions from the 10+2 questions.

Out of curiosity, what is your understanding of significance and take of the meaning of:
1/ "do not to eat of the TKGE because the day you do, you'll surely die"?
2/ What is the TKGE itself and all about?
3/ What in the original text does the sense of "...you'll surely die" convey or mean?

Please dont hold back and dont leave any stone unturned for this one. Thank you
Christianity Etc › Re: Sango Was Right Death By Fire Is Appropriate Punishment For Great Offenses by MuttleyLaff: 10:23am On Aug 30, 2020
TheBedWench:
From the Yoruba Orikis I gathered that some Yorubas were deep into human and child sacrifice at the time Sango was born. And when he became King his preferred judgement was to burn the human sacrificers alive.
Wow, this bit has really wet my appetite of interest even increasingly more.

I really would need that you reproduce here, in verbatim, this particular panegyric on Sango please, saying death by fire, is appropriate punishment for great offenses.

I actually thought you were going to say that how, where and when exactly, Sango said, death by fire, is appropriate punishment for great offenses is from "Odu Ifa" but you now saying it's from Yoruba oriki, is intriguing



TheBedWench:
This very act sent shock waves throughout the land so whenever the name of the Alaafin was mentioned people looked around to see if his calvary was coming or Ogboni was near. Although paganism goes against the one God faith it's not to say that some of them aren't moral. Morality varies among them just as it does among Hebrews and Muslims. The only difference is that the people of God have a more pure morality. Morality is connected with the belief in the One God. There are some Yorubas back then who put Olodumare the Supreme God first. I attempt not to be hyper judgmental because even Prophet Muhammad invited others to the faith.
"You must not worship the LORD your God in this way,
because they practice for their gods every abomination which the LORD hates.
They even burn their sons and daughters in the fire as sacrifices to their gods.
"
- Deuteronomy 12:31

"They have built pagan shrines to Baal in the valley of Ben-Hinnom,
and there they sacrifice their sons and daughters to Molech.
I have never commanded such a horrible deed;
it never even crossed my mind to command such a thing.
What an incredible evil, causing Judah to sin so greatly!
"
- Jeremiah 32:35

Human sacrifices, especially by offering them as burning sacrifices is a general world wide cultural malaise and we thank God, we've grown out of and past that embarassing silliness and/or foolishness.

I am sure you are familiar with Molech aka Moloch, Baal, Chemosh et cetera (i.e. Leviticus 18:21, 1 Kings 11:7, 2 Chronicles 28:3, 2 Chronicles 33:6, Jeremiah 7:31 et cetera)

IMHO, I think it's only the Yorubas back then, who seemed to a certain good degree grasp the essence of who and what God is. This they try to capture, express and articulate with the Yoruba portmanteau word Olodumare or Eledumare. This reminds me of Paul accosting the men of Athen with Acts 17:23-31
Christianity Etc › Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by MuttleyLaff: 9:55am On Aug 30, 2020
DappaD:
Go ahead... Lie, let them see who you truly are
I'm not jobless else I'd have dug it out by now
"You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father.
He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him.
Whenever he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own nature, for he is a liar and the father of lies
"
- John 8:44

Na dem, na dem, one of the many out there, the accuser of our brethren
No surprises he isnt able to find anything to dig up, especially when it does not exist
It'll be looking for a black cat, in a dark room, when there wasn't a cat, in the first place to go look for. You'll end up sweating like as if a pig, in the futile adventure exercise
Christianity Etc › Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by MuttleyLaff: 9:45am On Aug 30, 2020
DappaD:
You need not mind MuttleyLaff and his misapplication of Scriptures.
The same person who said the ‘spirit’[ruach] at Ecclesiastes 12:7 meant God's holy spirit grin
What do you think he cannot do again grin
[img]https://media./images/14cd04951335766288c672c30e186f98/tenor.gif[/img]
What the blooming heck?

Now you better reproduce here verbatim where MuttleyLaff, did misapplication of Scriptures and typed or said: "‘spirit’[ruach] at Ecclesiastes 12:7 meant God's holy spirit"

In the failure of doing that, in the absence of providing the word for word quote, be prepared to retract your slander to eat your words and offer an unreserved apology for falsely misrepresenting whatever I did type angry angry angry
Christianity Etc › Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by MuttleyLaff: 9:39am On Aug 30, 2020
Maximus69:
You guys are unbelievers but when we tell you, you'll flair up with all sorts of abusive speeches and curses!

Jesus spoke of PEACE amongst his own followers! John 14:27

So if you don't know what 1Thessalonians 5:3 is all about just ask and we'll teach you, PEACE can never be in the world under Satan's control but their will be PEACE in the midst of worshipers belonging to the PRINCE of PEACE! Isaiah 9:7 compare to 1 Corinthians 14:33 smiley
You my dear Sire, you're unbelievable. Smh

What beats a better workshop of Satan, more than JW Organisation, huh? There can never be "Salem" in the midst of twisted worshipers belonging to the PRINCE of this WORLD deserving punishment (i.e. Isaiah 48:22 and Isaiah 57:21)

Fyi instead of prooftexting with Isaiah 9:7 and 1 Corinthians 14:33, trying hard to make fetch happen, just know that, God is not, a God of sheeple and lemming(s) made up of Maximus69 and other Jehovah's Witnesses Organization members
Christianity Etc › Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by MuttleyLaff: 9:15am On Aug 30, 2020
Maximus69:
That's why TRINITY failed woefully to make sure PEACE reign in the midst of TRINITARIANS!

TRINITY often does everything alone, so you guys don't need to do anything to support it's work but singing, dancing around and waiting for TRINITY to bring about PEACE amongst you all by itself!

Don't bother Sir, i garrit! i garrit!! undecided

But Jehovah created Michael (Jesus), assigned him to join in his works and ever since then Jehovah has been giving other intelligent creatures like Maximus69 and millions of his Witnesses {Hebrew 12:1} the privilege to join him as his co-workers {1Corinthians 3:9} that's why Jehovah's Witnesses are zealously preaching and industriously teaching their neighbours in preparation for the new world, each of them is first of all humble at heart and secondly they're able to learn what righteosness truly means {Zephaniah 2:2-3} no wonder they're always noticed joyfully sharing with their neighbours what they knew {Malachi 3:16} that's why their own FAITH is working as expected {Hebrew 11:1} unlike all other religions whose FAITH is jobless and dead! James 2:18-26

Thanks Mr Emusan i'm getting the drift Sir! smiley



Maximus69:
Simple put
Jehovah's Witnesses Organization ~
Jesus is Archangel Michael in the midst of members PEACE reigns globally!

But

Trinitarians ~
Jesus is God Almighty and there is no PEACE amongst them, it's Yam pepper scatter scatter ~ isu ata yán an yàn an cheesy
MuttleyLaff:
"For when they Maximus69 Jehovah's Witnesses Organization are saying, "Peace and safety,"
then sudden destruction will come on them,
like birth pains on a pregnant woman; and they will in no way escape
"
- 1 Thessalonians 5:3

In the midst of Jehovah's Witnesses Organization globally reigns false sense of peace and security
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Christ Is Not Different From The Father!!! by MuttleyLaff: 6:31am On Aug 30, 2020
Maximus69:
Simple put
Jehovah's Witnesses Organization ~

Jesus is Archangel Michael in the midst of members PEACE reigns globally!

But

Trinitarians ~

Jesus is God Almighty and there is no PEACE amongst them, it's Yam pepper scatter scatter ~ isu ata yán an yàn an cheesy
"For when they are saying, "Peace and safety,"
then sudden destruction will come on them,
like birth pains on a pregnant woman; and they will in no way escape
"
- 1 Thessalonians 5:3

In the midst of Jehovah's Witnesses Organization globally reigns false sense of peace and security
Christianity Etc › Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by MuttleyLaff: 3:08am On Aug 30, 2020
Janosky:
The NONSENSE your spirit filled Triune deity devotees have already RUBBISHED on this forum
[img]https://s3/images/ObamaMuttley.gif[/img]

What sort of nonsense is this Janosky?
What have I to do with "spirit filled Triune deity devotees"?
When did "spirit filled Triune deity devotees" become mine, huh?

Those of us, who dance, are considered insane, by those who cannot hear the music
Christianity Etc › Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by MuttleyLaff: 2:46am On Aug 30, 2020
Janosky:
Mr Projection FRAUD, twale!
After your "spirit filled Triune deity devotee RUBBISHED your FICTITIOUS Projection claims on the other thread,,you come here dey console yourself grin

The Prince and Everlasting Father of Isaiah 9:6 have CONFESSED himself is still a son "ascending to "my Father and your Father, his God and Janosky's God. John 20:17 (not your Triune pagan IDOLS)
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Jesus is God Almighty and there is no PEACE amongst them,
it's Yam pepper scatter scatter ~ "isu ata yán an yàn an"
- © Copyright Maximus69

That shared projection epiphany (i.e. John 8:42, "exerchomai'') pepper you wella wella causing you sifia pains


"From the beginning I revealed to you what would happen.
These words came out of My mouth, and I made them known.
Suddenly, I acted, and they happened
"
- Jeremiah 16:17

"Who is this Janosky that obscures My plans with words without knowledge?
(i.e. Who is this Janosky that questions My wisdom with such ignorant words?
"Who is this Janosky who keeps darkening My counsel without knowing what he's talking about?
Why do you Janosky talk so much when you know so little?
Who is this Janosky that wrappeth up sentences in unskillful words?
Who are you Janosky to question My wisdom with your ignorant, empty words?)
"
- Job 38:2

Fyi, if you havent yet read the memo. The Godhead is triune or trinity and more. The Godhead is Infinity, Infinite. To be infinite is to be without limits or limitations and being truly infinite, means God knows no restrictions of space, ability or power and He isn't limited to three persons either. Capisce now?
Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by MuttleyLaff: 2:36am On Aug 30, 2020
"Nothing in all creation is hidden from God's sight. Everything is uncovered
and laid bare before the eyes of Him to whom we must give account
"
- Hebrews 4:13

"For the eyes of the LORD run to and fro throughout the whole earth,
to show Himself strong on behalf of those whose heart is loyal to Him.
In this you have done foolishly; therefore from now on you shall have wars.”
"
- 2 Chronicles 16:9

"He reveals the deep and hidden things;
He knows what lies in darkness, and light dwells with Him
"
- Daniel 2:22

""Can a man hide in secret places where I cannot see him?" declares the LORD.
"Do I not fill the heavens and earth?" declares the LORD
"
- Jeremiah 23:24

"You know what I am going to say even before I say it, LORD
(i.e. And thou hast foreseen all my ways: for there is no speech in my tongue.
Or, even before there is a [single] word on my tongue, you know all about it, LORD.)
"
- Psalm 139:4

"The eyes of the LORD are everywhere.
They watch evil people and good people
"
- Proverbs 15:3

"... For the LORD sees every heart and knows every plan and thought.
If you seek him, you will find him.
But if you forsake him, he will reject you forever.
"
- 1 Chronicles 28:9b

"From the beginning I revealed to you what would happen.
These words came out of my mouth, and I made them known.
Suddenly, I acted, and they happened
"
- Jeremiah 16:17

"Who is this Blabbermouth that obscures My plans with words without knowledge?
(i.e. Who is this Blabbermouth that questions My wisdom with such ignorant words?
"Who is this Blabbermouth who keeps darkening My counsel without knowing what he's talking about?
Why do you Blabbermouth talk so much when you know so little?
Who is this Blabbermouth that wrappeth up sentences in unskillful words?
Who are you Blabbermouth to question My wisdom with your ignorant, empty words?)
"
- Job 38:2
Christianity Etc › Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by MuttleyLaff: 1:26am On Aug 30, 2020
solite3:
Yes Jehovah himself is the rightful owner

Zechariah 14:16
And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.

Jehovah Himself is the Offspring,
Zechariah recorded what will take place in the future and that is, Jehovah himself will reign as king in Jerusalem.

Jesus will reign forever
Isaiah 9:7
Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.
You Sire, Mr solite3, have just brought tears of joy stream down my face with this "satori"
Christianity Etc › Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by MuttleyLaff:
Emusan:
Looking for excuses to deviate from the main point.

When foolishness won't allow you to reason,
The Word of God and The Holy Spirit who are eternally one with the Father were there.

Imagine TRINITY no get shame!

oponu
Maximus69:
OK i garrit! i garrit!!

TRINITY was talking to itself! undecided
The synergy of the Godhead

God, by default, is Mysterious. Even in Yoruba cosmology and mythology, His essence and nature is beautifully captured, the best, in being identified and called "Eledumare" or "Olodumare", of which, the portmanteau Yoruba word, when loosely translated means, the Owner or Custodian of absolute exponential energy and infinite mysteries, who has knowledge of all blessings.


Emusan:
See what brainwash has done to your life!

Still putting effort to deviate from the main point. I know your style.

In case you forget, the question still remains;

If He participated during creation, what exactly did He do? That was the question...

We have seen from the scripture.
~Yahweh created everything ALONE and by HIMSELF!
~Yahweh gave commands DIRECTLY to the things created and not to a creature.
"... the God who gives life to the dead and calls into being what does not yet exist
(i.e. who gives life to the dead and calls into existence the things that do not exist)
"
- Romans 4:17b
Christianity Etc › Re: Sango Was Right Death By Fire Is Appropriate Punishment For Great Offenses by MuttleyLaff: 12:42am On Aug 30, 2020
TheBedWench:
Book of Revelation

Revelation 20:10
"And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever."


Many men and women in the occult believe they are gods and they have a divine right to do anything to anyone to prove they are better. This type of abomination must be eradicated by fire. Fire destroys the ego and would even destroy it in the hearts of those contemplating such crimes.
I am 10000% sure about that man obviously being under some kind of demonic influence and I know the mythical Sango breathes out fire but out of interest, how, where and when exactly, did Sango say death by fire, is appropriate punishment for great offenses please?
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Christ Is Not Different From The Father!!! by MuttleyLaff: 11:58pm On Aug 29, 2020
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Christ Is Not Different From The Father!!! by MuttleyLaff:
jamesid29:
Bro, what is wrong with you undecided ?
Something must be wrong with you and not me bro-ther angry angry angry

Tell me what your birthday is, so I can give you a dictionary as a birthday gift. Look at him publicly displaying his failure to grasp the meaning of a simple harmless innocent and matter of fact word(s). Smh


jamesid29:
[s]How is this even a necessary reply in the conversation this far?

For someone who still has a lot to learn & unlearn and on a subject, you yourself haven't figured out, you still feel comfortable to speak in such a manner.... It is well with you.[/s]
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Will you, sharp sharpishly get off my mention, doing poke nosing, not minding his business, busybody NL self appointed police upandan the thread angry angry angry

You my dear friend, are not my match, not my class, not in our number, and this is saying it without being self conceited, like you are parading yourself upandan the thread, attention seeking for self person KMT

You can stuff your insincere, hollow, nonsense and ingredients "It is well with you"
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Christ Is Not Different From The Father!!! by MuttleyLaff: 7:05pm On Aug 29, 2020
Dtruthspeaker:
I do understand and appreciate the difference in view and the fact that it was given bonafide!
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Tell this to the marines, because the sailors won't believe you
Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by MuttleyLaff:
Blabbermouth:
Conscience?! God forbid! My view depicts God as just, Loving and Perfect. What's the conscience there?? Believing a future exist is 1,000 problem to the WHO GOD IS of God. So bro, no conscience, it's me coming to realize that humans feel safe believing some fantasy future and destiny exist.
I've planted a seed though, you and Shade will one day exclaim in your mind and say "Ohhhh, this was what that Blabber guy was all on about."
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You have planted a seed alright.
It is called a seed of deceit, a seed of corruption, an evil seed. What an evil tangled web, you've weaved yourself in, as you continue practising your self deceit(s) Every seed brings forth after its kind. No surprises, at the sort of seed you've religiously and being busy planting


Blabbermouth:
Smiless....I will answer you then.
Honesty is a costly gift, I dont expect it from a cheap with the truth person, like you, when you or if you do decide to give your answers to the 10+2 questions. I even expect to see you bury the answers deep down under obfuscated bales of hay, stacked in rows
Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by MuttleyLaff: 6:21pm On Aug 29, 2020
Blabbermouth:
I didn't say "alright" because I was wrong though.
Numbers 32:23b says:
"... sin against the Yahweh; be sure your sin will catch up with you"

Is it your conscience pricking you or what, hmm?


Blabbermouth:
Concerning the 10 questions you asked, my answers won't be satisfactory as I believe in certain things you don't and you believe in certain things I don't.
You arent being honest to yourself my dear friend beloved dear brother because whether your answers are going to be satisfactory is neither here nor there. Also what I believe in and what you believe, doesnt prevent me from throwing investigative or probing questions at you that I expect you to, if you are not hiding anything, to honestly sincerely and truthfully answer

I guess you are afraid to face the reality of the answers you'll be giving to the 10 easy, simple, direct, harmless, innocent straightforward questions, so you rather stave them off than come face to face with the questions

Smh, even the "Please be fair and stop making unrighteous judgment(s) you cant back up" above questions too, reproduced below, you couldn't bring yourself to honestly, sincerely and truthfully give answers to:

1/ Did God not warn A&E about not eating the fruit from the TKGE?
2/ Is that really not doing anything?
Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by MuttleyLaff: 6:01pm On Aug 29, 2020
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Christ Is Not Different From The Father!!! by MuttleyLaff:
Dtruthspeaker:
Humbly, I once thought projection too but the flaw of the Projection Theory is that a Projection reapeats in sync what the Projector projects.

Hence based on Projection my answers must be restricted to me, the father and projector, hence questions

1)= is My Bidding not his;
2) = I am the father and a projection is not a son but a replica as a mirror image or a shadow;
3) = in Projection, No for a projection is not a separate person as a son but a shadow or mirror reflection of the projector;
4) = No, for I am a person but my image is unreal and intangible;
5)= in Projection, No, for he does not see, for he is not a living or real thing;
6) in Projection, No, for Power can only be given to a living thing or real thing;
7) I am the one projecting so the projection comes from the projector:
8 ) in Projection, the Projector is Real but the projection is not, therefore, they are not the same neither are they equal;
9) in Projection, the Projector is the one doing the work not the projection; so no reward for the projection
10) The Projector is the only real object.
Thank you for being a sport in answering all the 10 questions. You started very well, but you went on a downward trajectory from making dishonest replies from question #2 right up to question #10, considering the fact you know the projection was a "son" of you the "father" Dtruthspeaker, you dishonestly won't acknowledge the "son" projected, as being, real, living, have a body, had demonstrable power of healing, feeding, weeping, sleeping et cetera. You deceived yourself thinking you are deceiving me. You were being foolhardy, thinking you were being smartypants. You were being dumb, thinking you were being clever. Smh

MuttleyLaff:
"Jesus said to them,
“If God were your Father, you would love Me, for I proceeded forth and came from God;
nor have I come of Myself, but He sent Me.
"
- John 8:42

In John 8:42 above, "exerchomai" is the Greek original word, translated as "proceeded forth". By definition, it means, to go or come out of, with mention of the place out of which one goes, or of the point from which one departs. So, John 8:42 above, makes no mistake, where from, Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ proceeded forth and came out from.
Dtruthspeaker:
Which is why I am saying that, that reasoning does not apply in the case of Our Lord.
"“Come now, let us reason together,” says the LORD ..."
- Isaiah 1:18a

It is not only in Isaiah 1:18a above, that God invites to reason with Him. Another case in point, of reasoning with God, is explained in Hebrews 11:19 about one of the many reasoning Abraham had with God and also had about God

Reasoning plays a lot in fully getting to knowing God and correctly understanding everything about Him. As I've previously posted, the brain, isn't an ornament, given to just decorate the body with, but, we are blessed with this powerfully built processing functional gift for a purpose, for a reason, for such a time as this and especially for such a discussion as this.


Dtruthspeaker:
And in fact I just saw John 17, Christ is Rendering Account, Giving Report and Making Petitions to Someone else. No projection can do that and one is thought a lunatic if a person speaks to Himself, which is not case here at all;
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Smh at above avalanche of confused dot com. Your theology is suspect. Do you really expect the "Father" to render account to the "Son" ni, hmm?

In your narrow-minded, short changing, limited view of God, you say, it is a hard and impossible action for God to carry out projecting Himself out as a living, real, powerful, incarnated being of Himself.

I concur without demur that with human beings, it is an impossible thing for any to do, but I unreservedly put it to you that, with God all things are possible (i.e. Matthew 19:26)

You can take this from me, that, everything if it isn't bible based, if its not scripture, if it can't be bible fact check, I wouldn't bother share

With me you are among friends, among the brethren, you are in safe company because I am not proselytising, I am not pitching a product, I am not teaching, I am not after anyone's money. I am not compounding or adding any more evil into all you already have. I dont have any hidden agenda or ulterior motive et cetera
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Christ Is Not Different From The Father!!! by MuttleyLaff: 5:21pm On Aug 29, 2020
Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by MuttleyLaff:
Blabbermouth:
I prefer not to hide behind "God sees in mysterious ways" and ask, seek to know, unravel mysteries than say "God saw it all ...
No one expects you to hide behind "God sees in mysterious ways"

God, by default, is Mysterious. Even in Yoruba cosmology and mythology, His essence and nature is beautifully captured, the best, in being identified and called "Eledumare" or "Olodumare", of which, the portmanteau Yoruba word, when loosely translated means, the Owner or Custodian of absolute energy and infinite mysteries, who has knowledge of all blessings, so God being Mysterious, and expecting human beings, His creation to "ask, seek to know, unravel mysteries" about Him, blessed us with the brain, which isn't an ornament to decorate the body with, but is this powerfully built processing functional gift, given for a purpose, reason and such a time as like this, other than sitting on our hands or folding the hands, resigning to "God saw it all ..."


Blabbermouth:
I don't know how we wrote our own script before our nonexistence but I know he saw it all ...
We write our own scripts by living life, with our interactions, from making choices, from taking decisions et cetera. Also, the way you play the hand you are dealt, is how you write your own script.

Of course, unlike human beings, God being Omni-Know-Everything, Omni-Know-All, being Omni-See-All, Omni-Nothing-is-Hidden-From-Him et cetera


Blabbermouth:
... and in all, He didn't do anything
Please be fair and stop making unrighteous judgment(s) YOU cant back up

1/ Did God not warn A&E about not eating the fruit from the TKGE?
2/ Is that really not doing anything?


Blabbermouth:
... he set evil in motion when he created Lucifer, because he prefer to allow a whole lot of mess to happen than hinder his creativity"....
That best sums us all up, don't you think?
No, it best sums up, what an unappreciative person with a disturbing soul you are, laying accusations on God, making negative comments about Him and doing all that, without considering the fact and truth, you don't at all, have the entire low down and precise details of the whole matter. Instead of treading carefully you are throwing caution to the wind, taking swipes indiscriminately at God. I guess you have forgotten about how Job too was mouthing off before God cut him down to size with realities

Lucifer, being a product of creativity, had a right to exist. Creativity must be allowed to express itself. Lucifer would be what Lucifer would. The only thing that was holding Lucifer back from being the Lucifer, he turned out to become, was simply because God's presence or better still, God's Hand was ON Lucifer. All along Lucifer was perfect in all his doings, but the minute God lifted OFF His Hand and turned His back, injustice, unrighteousness and wrong was found in him as he stopped to meet God's standard (i.e. he sinned)

Now, my dear confused dot com beloved brother friend, the good news, is that the sin situation problem God foreknew about and is what exactly He was set out to resolve once and fully, not to be a problem with all its baggages anymore.

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