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 Christianity Etc › Re: For Muttlerlaff And Those That Dont Believe In The Name Of Jesus by MuttleyLaff: 6:48pm On Aug 27, 2020*. Modified: 7:06pm On Aug 27, 2020 |
delkuf:"4So Joseph also went up from Nazareth in Galilee to Judea, to the city of David called Bethlehem, since he was from the house and line of David. 5He went there to register with Mary, who was pledged to him in marriage and was expecting a child. 6While they were there, the time came for her Child to be born. 7And she gave birth to her firstborn, a Son. She wrapped Him in swaddling cloths and laid Him in a manger, because there was no room for them in the inn. 8And there were shepherds residing in the fields nearby, keeping watch over their flocks by night. 9Just then an angel of the Lord stood before them, and the glory of the Lord shone around them, and they were terrified. 10But the angel said to them, “Do not be afraid! For behold, I bring you good news of great joy that will be for all the people: 11Today in the city of David a Savior has been born to you. He is Christ the Lord! 12And this will be a sign to you: You will find a baby wrapped in swaddling cloths and lying in a manger.” 13And suddenly there appeared with the angel a great multitude of the heavenly host, praising God and saying: 14“Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace to men on whom His favor rests!” 15When the angels had left them and gone into heaven, the shepherds said to one another, “Let us go to Bethlehem and see this thing that has happened, which the Lord has made known to us.” 16So they hurried off and found Mary and Joseph and the Baby, who was lying in the manger. 17After they had seen the Child, they spread the message they had received about Him. 18And all who heard it were amazed at what the shepherds said to them. 19But Mary treasured up all these things and pondered them in her heart. 20The shepherds returned, glorifying and praising God for all they had heard and seen, which was just as the angel had told them" - Luke 2:4-20 delkuf, I never used "Jesus as a aka." What I am known to use, is the other way round. How I used the expression was ... aka Jesus Christ" He was born in Bethlehem (i.e. Matthew 2:1) a Levant region, in the Mediterranean Sea part of the world, so His real and correct name wouldn't the popular, widely known and often used Anglicised Jesus Christ name The benefit of using His correct and proper name, as often and you possibly you can, is of incalculable value. "Then Jacob asked, saying, “Tell me Your name, I pray.” And He said, “Why is it that you ask about My name?” And He blessed him there" - Genesis 32:29 "17Then Manoah said to Him, “What is Your name, so that we may honor You when Your words come true? ” 18“Why do you ask My name,” the Angel of the LORD asked him, “since it is wonderful.” (i.e. if you did, you couldn't understand it)" - Judges 13:18 "13Then Moses asked God, “Suppose I go to the Israelites and say to them, ‘The God of your fathers has sent me to you,’ and they ask me, ‘What is His name?’ What should I tell them?” 14God said to Moses, “I AM WHO I AM. This is what you are to say to the Israelites: ‘I AM has sent me to you.’”…" - Exodus 3:13 Have you ever wondered why a couple of the biblical characters ever wanted to know God's name, but on each occasion their requests were rebuffed in no uncertain times, with why do you want to know, you cant understand the essence of the name, it will be incomprehensible to you et cetera. Yakub aka Jacob aka Israel, Manoah and Moshe aka Moses, all are aware of the importance of knowing what God personal name is and they tried to find out eplanning:[img]https://s4/images/orijin-bitters.jpg[/img] Word. Gbam. Somebody please pass this my guy, eplanning, this chilled bottle of orijin. Plus send him a truckload of kolanuts as well and after that, consider him sharp sharp, next governor of his state of origin. Right on point on almost all accounts. Wehdone Sir! Please drink responsibly though Brachaa:[img]https://s2/images/MuttleyDriveLaff.gif[/img] It is MuttleyLaff actually and not muttleylaff, but all the same, thank you and I rest my case, but only to complement to what was advanced up there by eplanning, that when God was to come down to earth incarnated, for what the mission He had to do and accomplish, it was pertinent that, He must for this particular purpose, come through the door. Now the thing is, it so happens, the chosen door could have been an African Yoruba door, an African Ibo door, an African Ghanaian door, an African Hausa door, an Asian door, a Chinese door, an India door, a white-skinned person's door, but He elected to come through a Semitic door, aka Jew (i.e. "In your seed all the nations of the earth shall be blessed, because you have obeyed My voice". - Genesis 22:18) If I am correct, I believed it was in seven different ways and times, after Abraham successfully demonstrated that he was prepared to give up his only begotten son Isaac, that YAH, reinforcingly kept repeating the Genesis 22:18 blessing to Abraham. This was part of the journey towards the fulfilling the protevanglium in Genesis 3:15 MuttleyLaff:Along the way Brachaa, do you know that some wonder why prayers are not expeditely answered, but we thank God, that He is a very sympathetic and understanding God, who puts up with our ignorances and all the drama that begins with a fall from grace to grass human being saddled with human frailties. 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Tower Of Babel, An Insight Into Space Exploration And Architectural Revolution by MuttleyLaff: 7:23am On Aug 27, 2020*. Modified: 10:21am On Aug 27, 2020 |
FOLYKAZE:You must be a clown or a court jester. Smh FOLYKAZE:Were you expecting to see Greek, Hausa or Ijebu ni. The Old Testament text was originally written up all in Hebrew/Aramaic words. Of course " amar" "banah" and " zamar" are of particular interest to draw attention on the real and original meanings the three native words are conveying, which are lost in translation to English words FOLYKAZE:Strong's Concordance Original word: בָּנָה Definition (full): to build Strong's Exhaustive Concordance A primitive root; to build (literally and figuratively) -- (begin to) https://biblestudycompany.com/reader/strongs/1129/hebrew amar (i.e. verb) Definition to say, speak, utter (Qal) to say, to answer, to say in one's heart, to think, to command, to promise, to intend (Niphal) to be told, to be said, to be called (Hithpael) to boast, to act proudly (Hiphil) to avow, to avouch https://www.biblestudytools.com/lexicons/hebrew/nas/amar.html/ banah (i.e. verb) Definition to build, rebuild, establish, cause to continue (Qal) to build, rebuild to build a house (ie, establish a family) (Niphal) to be built, to be rebuilt https://www.biblestudytools.com/lexicons/hebrew/nas/banah.html zamam (i.e. verb) Definition to have a thought, devise, plan, consider, purpose (Qal) to consider, fix thought upon to purpose, devise to plot (of evil intent) https://www.biblestudytools.com/lexicons/hebrew/nas/zamam.html FOLYKAZE:Is there any need for you to descend so low like this with your usual jagbajantis goading, hmm? If I should reciprocate you with a bigger measure, you won't remember this jibe before crying foul. Behave and respect yourself my dear friend, "agba ntara ni ẹ". You are a grown arse some lovely ones father too. Are you surprised that Yahweh came down, descended from his abode to earth, to see what the men have proposed to, to see how capable they were in going about building the stargate, to see how determined they were in going to make building the stargate a reality, to see how united they were in getting together to build the stargate. Seems you've conveniently forgotten throw the voice of God was walking in Eden, in cool of the day (i.e. Genesis 3:8 ) Of course, Yahweh, in a sense of anthropomorphic speak, just as He did in Eden, came down to investigate. Nothing unusual in that, even in Yoruba mythology and cosmology, the gods came down to earth FOLYKAZE:When one reads you, one is never amazed at how, you easily just revel in showcasing your colossal ineptness in public. You have no skill and aren't showing understanding of parsing Hebrew language enough to allow you, be able to distinct how "banah" its used differently in Genesis 2:22, Genesis 4:17, Genesis 8:20, from how it is used in Genesis 11:4, Genesis 11:5 & Genesis 11:8. Smh. Now here is the point, which I defo know, will swoosh go over your head, as if like an Naija Aiforce MiG fighter jet flying over. The point is that, English and Hebrew, both have tense and aspect, but unfortunately, they simply, are just coded differently. The terms of English grammar have enjoyed a long tradition as the default lens through which all other languages are analysed, and you have fallen victim of slipping on the banana peel, thinking that the usage of "banah" is 10000% the same with Genesis 2:22, Genesis 4:17, Genesis 8:20, just as it is used in Genesis 11:4, Genesis 11:5 & Genesis 11:8 This defo will swoosh go over your head, as if like an Naija Aiforce MiG fighter jet flying over, but for what its worth, just be aware that English and Hebrew have tense(s) and aspect(s), they simply, are just coded differently. Be more open to this info and better still go learn more deeper about it. Similar applies the New Testament MuttleyLaff: MuttleyLaff:[quote author=Mr\President1 post=58543149]OK Muttleylaff, I have been reading up on Aorist tenses  . So, in the context that Paul used it, there was no time or duration attached . You are right. Paul even admonished Timothy to continue the preaching when he said of himself that ''I have finished the race''  Yes, the Aorist  . The time is now, as deduced from the examination of other related Scriptures to find the timeline. The time is now.Thanks for the knowledge on Aorist tenses OK, you are not an olodo because you thought me Aorist tense , the Aorist tense also explains the nature of our God who commands things that are not as though they are.Upon authentication, when you see the things that may withhold his coming being demolished, then the point is proved that every creature under heaven has heard the gospel ; and the Aorist acquires a closure.[/quote]FOLYKAZE:"The name of Yahweh is a strong tower: the righteous run to him, and are safe." - Proverbs 18:10 It will be with evident enjoyment for me to watch the divine judgement of Babel descend down on you for choosing to remain verified uninformed, ignorant and pig-headed, as you perch on your ivory tower of unholy wisdom from the side of evil. Good luck with not talking about this again with me, like as if, Jonathan wey no get Patience, fit get Goodluck. See if I care. Mtcheew KMT. FOLYKAZE:"8Cush fathered Nimrod, who became the first fearless leader throughout the land. 9He became a fearless hunter in defiance of the LORD. That is why it is said, “Like Nimrod, a fearless hunter in defiance of the LORD.” 10His kingdom began in the region of Shinar with the cities of Babylon, Erech, Akkad, and Calneh. 11From there he went north to Assyria and built Nineveh, Rehoboth-ir, and Calah, 12along with Resen, which was located between Nineveh and the great city of Calah." - Genesis 10:8-12 As the bible messages, the tower of babel wasn't a physical structure really built. It's a metaphor, although it's a rather odd one, for a star gate and warning against hubris that leads to nemesis. You are an archetype of Nimrod and all defiance of Yahweh, as you are, do suffer the fate of Nimrod. Continue building your ego, my dear defiant fiend |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by MuttleyLaff: 7:47am On Aug 26, 2020 |
Blabbermouth:I categorically refute that "The account of Lucifer's fall existed before Lucifer's existence" claim is my view. Just the way God knew prophet Jeremiah before he was conceived from the fertilisation of his dad's and mother's, before he was formed in his mum's womb and even off course before prophet Jeremiah was born, is the same means that God foreknew Lucifer will fall. The foreknowledge He had about Lucifer's fall and not standing in the way of Lucifer's choice to misbehave, is the same foreknowledge He had of A&E's fall, and also did not stop or standing in their choices to misbehave Blabbermouth:No one has advanced the notion that Lucifer's fall did exist/happen before Lucifer Blabbermouth:"Yes, God even knows how many hairs you have on your head. Don’t be afraid. (i.e. Indeed the very hairs of your head are all numbered)" - Luke 12:7 Your warped view of God, is most certainly distorted because looking at Him through the prism of your own arrogance and ignorance. Are you saying for someone who easily knows the number of hairs on your head, it is impossicant for God to not know everything that needs to be known about Lucifer, even before Lucifer incorporeally existed, hmm? Blabbermouth:Similarly it was by Pharaoh's own actions, his own decisions, his own choices, that he lived out the story of his life Also, similarly it was by A&E's own actions, their own actions, their own decisions, their own choices, that they lived out the story of their lives Blabbermouth:Smh look at you making a dog's dinner of the Lucifer's fall from grace to grass whole thing Fyi, Lucifer, just as with Pharaoh was, was all along restrained and kept in check by God, but the moment God stepped back and hands-off, sin was found in Lucifer, who prior had been perfect in all his way of behaving Blabbermouth:You are already twisted, so need for anyone to help you twist further your well established already twisted view |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by MuttleyLaff: 7:46am On Aug 26, 2020 |
Blabbermouth:Watch this Blabbermouth, you tried severally to reach me but couldn't leave a message behind on my phone because the voice box was full, so you called my missus and left a message behind on her phone. Whilst in the driving to the mall, she played her voice box to hear messages left on it. I overheard some words being spoken because she play it with the speaker on, so I asked upon hearing your words, isn't that Blabbermouth, isn't that person speaking Blabbermouth. Note I didnt say isn't that thing speaking, rather I said isn't that person. Of course, every human is one person. The same way I used the H20 analogy earlier on, no matter whether turned into water, ice or steam, H20 still retains its elements and/or molecular composition God creates by the "Let there be ..." spoken Word and through the power of the enabling seven spirits of God, He creates, He wields, He sees, He knows, He's everywhere et cetera I am a spirit, with a soul housed in a earth mass of body. My word represents me, my name represents me. My good name and word that's as good as gold are very important to me and my family 1 Like 1 Share |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by MuttleyLaff: 7:19am On Aug 26, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff: MuttleyLaff: MuttleyLaff: MuttleyLaff: Blabbermouth:Fill your boots with OT Isaiah 9:6 and Isaiah 40:3 above. Mind you, Blabbermouth, you havent in the same numbered format and style asked, have a stab at the above 10 easy, direct, simple, innocent, harmless and straightforward questions |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Tower Of Babel, An Insight Into Space Exploration And Architectural Revolution by MuttleyLaff: 5:58am On Aug 26, 2020*. Modified: 7:04am On Aug 26, 2020 |
FOLYKAZE:Its you who needs to stay off soda, the energy makes you hyper, this is why you type out of turn. There was no need to introduce "... if you are a teacher ..." and even "... you will produce very bad students" It is when people sense they are losing grounds, that they resort to cheap tactics like that. It is because I wasn't willing to spoon feed you and so you weren't getting it your own way, that you resort to all these your snivelling whining When are you going to learn how to stick to the subject matter discussed instead of drawing in your emotions and throwing in overt shades at me. It betrays your feeling of being frustrated because of your lack of depth, from being ill-informed and biblically undereducated. Hmm? FOLYKAZE:No can do again because as for you, I rather you be less informed and less knowledgeable just the way you are, so for you to remain wallowing in your ignorance and become the more arrogant and bellicose you ever can be. If its to dig up results on " ziggurat" you know how to easily to that and ferret around for results on it, smh, but finding out the meaning of the Hebrew words, "amar" from Genesis 11:4 and "banah" from Genesis 11:4 and Genesis 11:5 yourself, has become a tall order for you. KMT. FOLYKAZE:The whole OT text is in Aramaic/Hebrew, while where used in Genesis 11:4 and Genesis 11:5, "banah" is the Aramaic/Hebrew word, that got translated, to the English word "Built" YOYO. Nope. I am not going to spoon feed give you the full Aramaic/Hebrew texts in that verse. There are more than enough lexicons and interlinears resources out there to assist with that. Please don't act lazy FOLYKAZE:Yinmu. Be scamming yourself there, thinking its me you are scamming. KMT. Its only if you have your head in the clouds, that's what and how you will make or type such a remark like this. Smh FOLYKAZE:You make me laugh. We are talking of a supposedly skyscraper, but you have the cheek, to try sliding in a needle in a haystack. Smh FOLYKAZE:Smh, are you deliberately trying to form amnesia ni, hmm? Did I not advanced to share that it was Hammurabi, Nebuchadnezzar II' father, who later returned to enlarge and strengthen the city, to make it the capital of the Babylonian Empire under Semitic rule, tsk, smh FOLYKAZE:Was it good for you? You self loved yourself over nothing because I have always maintained that nothing structural was started. Now if that is the case, where from is this your "... something structurally on ground" fixation coming from, erhn FOLYKAZE? FOLYKAZE:You are fast learning picking up. It was an undeveloped site because no tower structure yet started, not even laying the foundation FOLYKAZE:There was no structural tower, in Genesis 11:6 or any other verse you want to think off, in plain sight to see. There was nada and this is why no mention of the tower is made after Genesis 11:5. It was only a not fully developed city that was on the ground and so it got a mention, but because of no evidence of a constructing tower, it didnt merit mentioning and so it was, without a mention FOLYKAZE:"10Hearing the voices of the king and his officials, the queen entered the banquet hall. “Your majesty, live forever,” the queen said. “Don’t be frightened by your thoughts or allow your facial expression to show it. 11There’s a man in your kingdom in whom dwells the spirit of the holy gods. During your grandfather’s reign, he was found to have insight, intelligence, and wisdom, like that of the gods. Your grandfather, King Nebuchadnezzar—your kingly predecessor—appointed him to be chief administrator over the magicians, enchanters, Chaldeans, and astrologers, 12because he was found to have an extraordinary spirit, knowledge, and understanding, along with an ability to interpret dreams, explain riddles, and solve difficult problems. His name is Daniel, whom the king renamed Belteshazzar. Call for Daniel, and he will reveal the meaning of the writing 13Then Daniel was brought before the king. The king spoke up and told Daniel, “So you are Daniel, one of the Judean exiles whom my grandfather the king brought from Judah! 14I’ve heard about you, that a spirit of the gods is in you and that you have insight, discernment, and extraordinary wisdom. 15Take note that the advisorsl and enchantersm were brought before me to read the writing and explain its meaning, but they were unable to do so. 16However, I’ve heard that you can provide meaning and interpretation, and that you can solve difficult problems. If you are able to read the writing and report its meaning, you will be clothed in purple, have a gold chain placed around your neck, and you will become the third highest ruler in the kingdom.” 17At this, Daniel answered, speaking directly to the king, “Let your gifts and rewards be given to someone else. However, I’ll read the writing for the king and tell him its meaning. 18Your majesty, the Most High God gave your grandfather Nebuchadnezzar sovereignty, as well as greatness, glory, and splendor. 19And because of the greatness that he gave him, all peoples, nations, and languages revered and feared him. He executed those whom he desired to execute, he spared those whom he wished to spare, he promoted those whom he desired to promote, and he humbled those whom he wished to humble. 20But when he became arrogant and his spirit hardened, he was removed from his royal throne and his glory was taken away from him. 21He was driven away from human society and given the mind of an animal. He lived with wild donkeys, ate grass like cattle, and his body was soaked with dew from the sky until he realized that the Most High God is sovereign over human kingdoms and places over them whomever he desires. 22“But you, Belshazzar, his grandson, haven’t humbled yourself, even though you knew all of this. 23“You’ve exalted yourself against the Lord of heaven. “You’ve had the vessels from his Temple brought into your presence. “And you, your officials, and your wives and mistresses drank wine from them. “You praised gods of silver, gold, bronze, iron, wood, and stone, which can’t see, hear, or demonstrate knowledge. “But you didn’t honor God, who holds in his power your very life and all your ways. 24“Therefore, the hand that wrote this inscription was sent from His presence. \ 25This is the written inscription: MENE, MENE, TEKEL AND PARSIN" - Daniel 5:10-25 Challenge ko, Oritameta ni Now pardon my from typing forcefully and rapidly slight hasty error impetuous, the prize and danger of plunging into torrential typings. It was Hammurabi, as the sixth king of the First Babylonian dynasty who expanded the city-state of Babylon. Even after the empire he built collapsed, he was still revered as a model ruler, and many kings across the Near East claimed him as an ancestor, which is why I called him Nebuchadnezzar II's father. Take for example, on some of the bricks, while setting out to create a reconstruction of the old Babylonian royal palace, Saddam Hussein had inscribed on it, in Arabic: "Built by Saddam, son of Nebuchadrezzar, to glorify Iraq" Anyway, of I am sure, you know about the "The Code of Hammurabi" and how there are numerous similarities between it and the Law of Moses in the Torah. Now here is the thing about Hammurabi. It was him who rebuilt the Old Babylonian Empire, while its Nabopolassar, correctly Nebuchadnezzar II's father, built the Neo-Babylonian Empire, also known as the Second Babylonian Empire and historically known as the Chaldean Empire The king of the Chaldeans, Nabopolassar, was Ashur-banipal’s viceroy in Babylon. Nabopolassar rebelled against Assyria and took Babylon. While Nabopolassar conquered the cities along the Tigris-Euphrates Rivers, he sent his son Nebuchadnezzar to stop Pharaoh-Necho of Egypt at Carchemish (i.e. 2 King 24:7; 2 Chronicles 35:20; Jeremiah 46:2) and so, it is in this Neo-Babylonian Empire period, during the reigns of Nabopolassar (625–605 BCE) and his son Nebuchadnezzar II (604–562 BCE), that there was a rebirth of widespread building activities, hence, temples and ziggurats got repaired or rebuilt in almost all the old dynastic cities, and Babylon itself got enormously enlarged and surrounded by a double enceinte or lines of fortifications. If you've based your post on alleged archaeology findings, then the unchallengeable truth of bible (e.g. Daniel 5:10-25, 2 King 24:7; 2 Chronicles 35:20; Jeremiah 46:2 above) shows you the story of the lives of Belshazzar and King Nebuchadnezzar II, his grandfather. You can see the parallel with Nimrod, how the heart/mind got arrogant and the spirit hardened in pride, giving room to become defiant, conceited, overconfident and strong to act proudly FOLYKAZE:This is no excuse for you to resort to contextomy, especially when the processing power in the brain, isn't for decoration, nor is the brain made up of sawdust I'll repeat myself, my dear defiant friend, that, if you are reading the Bible in English translation(s) and in isolation of comparing with the original text, you can bet that, a good 80% of the real bible text word meanings are distorted, are mangled almost beyond recognition and even be wilful errors, for political motives, indoctrination motives, diverse theological motive, hidden agenda et cetera It's even more hilarious that you don't realise that out of these ulterior motives, hidden agenda, ignorance, lack of understanding Hebraic culture, lack of understanding Aramaic/Hebraic idioms, lack of understanding Aramaic/Hebraic way of speaking or manner of writing et cetera, a lot was added to the Bible by translators and transliterators The number one myth about Bible translation is that, it is a word-for-word translation. Words have been added to the Bible, all translated bibles to-date, either had words added or removed. This is for another post You might, as well know that, bible original text translations aren't necessarily God inspired FOLYKAZE:Facepalm. Of course "zamam" is not the only Hebrew word in Genesis 11:6 but the point was that, you wont see "amar" or "banah" in Genesis 11:6 because they are found in Genesis 11:4-5 and not in any of the above various listed English translations of Genesis 11: 6 What you'll find in Genesis 11:6 is the Aramaic/Hebrew word "zamam" and not the Aramaic/Hebrew words "amar" or "banah" I was in a generous mood earlier, when I help out with sharing what the Genesis 11:6, Aramaic/Hebrew word "zamam" in the original text means. You had the option to send me a "thank you letter", later, in the post for it. As I advanced, it conveys, a sense of, to consider/considers/consideration, intention/intended, plots/plotted, purpose/purposed, schemed and/or plan of action/planned to build the tower. Click on the three weblink below to get a proper handle grip on the meaning of the word FOLYKAZE:#1) https://biblehub.com/hebrew/2161.htm #2) https://biblehub.com/lexicon/genesis/11-6.htm #3) https://biblehub.com/interlinear/genesis/11-6.htm Let this be the last time, you'll ever attempt getting me do something for you, that you fully are over-capable to do for yourself and over-qualified to do by yourself. Mtcheew. I have better things to use my precious time on than free fall in your rabbit hole with you, so hinting you that, I am on the verge of reaching my threshold of dissociating myself from discussing the star gate metaphor with you, which you have miserably misconstrued for something else. You cant to see the city for looking at the skyscraper. You'll get the meaning of the last sentence, later on, if you hadn't immediately now. Just so you know, Nimrod is an archetype, just as Babylon, is an archetype and that wasn't an ordinary tower proposed and planned in their minds to build |
| Christianity Etc › Re: BISHOP OYEDEPO: Is CAMA Policy Antichurch? by MuttleyLaff: 3:53pm On Aug 25, 2020 |
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| Christianity Etc › Re: Bishop Oyedepo To Plant 10,000 Churches In 2020 by MuttleyLaff: 7:30am On Aug 25, 2020*. Modified: 7:58am On Aug 25, 2020 |
Openbusiness:There is a Joseph de Maistre saying that goes like this: "Every nation gets the government it deserves" meaning that a nation gets the leaders and/or government it's deserves People who reason like you, dont want to acknowledge that the evil government, is a reflection of the community, village, town, city, society, country, a reflection of YOU! GlassDoc: MuttleyLaff: MuttleyLaff: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: BISHOP OYEDEPO: Is CAMA Policy Antichurch? by MuttleyLaff: 7:27am On Aug 25, 2020 |
donnie:At the expense of separating, dehumanising other people group based on the colour of their skin, talking them done, seeing none of them under any whatsoever good light. You have a particular interest in being a bonafide and kofam racist |
| Christianity Etc › Re: BISHOP OYEDEPO: Is CAMA Policy Antichurch? by MuttleyLaff: 7:06am On Aug 25, 2020 |
donnie:"But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lustful intent has already committed adultery with her in his heart." - Matthew 5:28 You my dear sire, are an unrepentant racist. Period. Just suck it up, that in your heart, you're a racist. Notice Matthew 5:28 above |
| Christianity Etc › Re: BISHOP OYEDEPO: Is CAMA Policy Antichurch? by MuttleyLaff: 6:46am On Aug 25, 2020 |
donnie:You have, as usual resorted to scripture prooftexting again, so to justify your warped and twisted way of reasoning. Professional isn't the same as wannabe. The racist is an exception to this, you're increasingly turning into becoming a professional racist Image123: donnie:"But I say to you that everyone looking upon a woman in order to lust after her already has committed adultery with her in his heart." - Matthew 5:28 [img]https://s7/images/MuttleyLaffJagaban.jpg[/img] You havent yet been seen shooting any whites Haven't yet lynched any white, we you know off. You havent the Jagaban style yet knelt down on any Lagosian/white man's neck in public, but you sire, in your heart, defo have committed racism 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by MuttleyLaff: 5:57am On Aug 25, 2020 |
“Ha! What do You want with us, Jesus of Nazareth? Have You come to destroy us? I know who You are—the Holy One of God!” - Luke 4:34 “And they cried out, saying, “What business do we have with each other, Son of God? Have You come here to torment us before the time? They began screaming at Him, “Why are you interfering with us, Son of God? Have you come here to torture us before God’s appointed time?”” - Matthew 8:29 "Then death and Hades (i.e. Hell/Sheol/Gehenna) were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death." - Revelation 20:14 "He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. The one who is victorious will not be harmed by the second death." - Revelation 2:11 FAO Blabbermouth Mr No future, Mr No Hell |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by MuttleyLaff: 5:28am On Aug 25, 2020 |
Blabbermouth: advocatejare:"And Jesus said to him, "The foxes have holes, and the birds of the air nests; but the Son of Man has nowhere He might lay the head."" - Luke 9:58 The title the Son of Man often used by Yahusha Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ, as like seen in Luke 9:58 above, is a clever, conscious, calculating and deliberate way of Yahusha Ha Mashiach expressing Himself for the benefit of the audience and/or hearers' understanding, that He, actually is begotten of the Father (i.e. revealing the Divinity and so divine side of Himself) and born of a mother (i.e. acknowledging the humanity and so humane, human being side of Himself) Blabbermouth:"For a child is born to us, a son is given to us. The government will rest on his shoulders. And he will be called: Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace" - Isaiah 9:6 "A voice cries: “In the wilderness prepare the way of the Lord; make straight in the desert a highway for our God." - Isaiah 40:3 MuttleyLaff:Blabbermouth, why not have a stab at the above easy, direct, simple, innocent, harmless and straightforward questions, with giving questions #2, #3, #6, #7, #9 and #10 extra considerations, hmm? In fact, give all questions, deep reflections before attempting to respond to them 2 Likes |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by MuttleyLaff: 10:49pm On Aug 24, 2020*. Modified: 4:55am On Aug 25, 2020 |
Blabbermouth: MuttleyLaff: Blabbermouth:"But I tell you that men will give an account on the day of judgment for every careless word they have spoken (i.e. You can be sure that on the Judgment Day you will have to give account of every useless word you have ever spoken Or I can guarantee that on judgment day people will have to give an account of every careless word they say. I tell you that every idle word that men speak, they will give account of it in the day of judgment. But I tell you that everyone will have to give account on the day of judgment for every empty word they have spoken )" - Matthew 12:36 No matter what you will carelessly, recklessly or uselessly, in word(s), type on here, you can never deny, the fact, that creation, creature(s), the world et cetera were formed by twosome of the Word and Idea (i.e. ''God said, Let ... and it was so'') Word(s) breathes and gives life. It gives, thought and/or ideas deeper meaning We know that the overly used adage, "sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never break/hurt me" misleading and that's because actually "sticks and stones may break my bones, but words can just shred your insides apart" Verbal abuse can leave deep psychological scars/psychological trauma, fear of bullies/tyrants and permanent brain damage. YES, Blabbermouth , my word is a person because I am a person of my word Now you answer this Blabbermouth: Are you a person of your word? |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by MuttleyLaff: 10:48pm On Aug 24, 2020 |
Blabbermouth:We are not, its you who is behaving like a goat who strayed lost on to an astroturf and got confused trying to eat the artificial grass shadeyinka and I am are, using man's measurement of time and where/when applicable, also using God's measurement of time God's measurement of time, is in existence before man's measurement of time and evidence of this, is found in circa Genesis 1:5, now man's measurement of time, on the other hand started with and/or at Genesis 1:14-19 There is 11pm in man's measurement of time. God sees 11pm in man's measurement of time. Man operates in man's measurement of time that has 11pms There to God is 11pm in man's measurement of time, in the world He created for man. When God says "I am the Beginning And at the same instant, The Ending" it means, He is the reason for all you see about. He is the reason why you are doing all this mental gymnastics trying to fathom the many out there inexplicable Blabbermouth:"Yeshua said to him, “The first of all the commandments: 'Hear Israel, THE LORD JEHOVAH your God, THE LORD JEHOVAH, He is One.'" - Mark 12:29 I stand on the Word, that states: Yahweh is our Godhead; Yahweh is one (i.e. Deuteronomy 6:4 and Mark 12:29 as seen above) 1. Did God make salvation possible (i.e Did he declare salvation) or was it Just something He knew of by foreknowledge? Response: It is a combination of both 2. Is Christ a different person from the lamb of God? Response: God is "I AM that I AM" God will be whatever is necessary for Him to be MuttleyLaff: MuttleyLaff: MuttleyLaff: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Egypt Hollywood Never Shows You by MuttleyLaff: 9:34pm On Aug 24, 2020*. Modified: 10:38pm On Aug 24, 2020 |
donnie:Raises eyebrow. segyemaro: pastort1:There are many others, like above comments, from where those two above, came from, saying similar, if not the same thing. I am not going to fall out with over the accent |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Egypt Hollywood Never Shows You by MuttleyLaff: 9:15pm On Aug 24, 2020 |
donnie:Inconsistencies makes me feel somehow. You went personal on him, instead of focusing to solely address the matter at hand, you went for a below the belt punch with "bleach, fry their hair and form American accent" when its obvious who the person is, known for doing just those three. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Egypt Hollywood Never Shows You by MuttleyLaff: 8:05pm On Aug 24, 2020 |
donnie:This is someone you once looked up to, idolised and loved greatly, so why you no accord him with high respect/regard, the same way, manner, tone et cetera you did with Winners' head honcho, hmm? David still respected king Saul to death, in spite of king Saul's shortcoming(s) and attempts to kill David. He even spared king Saul, when he had the chance to easily kill him |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by MuttleyLaff: 7:53pm On Aug 24, 2020 |
Blabbermouth:"14Then God commanded, “Let lights appear in the sky to separate day from night and to show the time when days, years, and religious festivals begin; 15they will shine in the sky to give light to the earth”—and it was done. 16So God made the two larger lights, the sun to rule over the day and the moon to rule over the night; He also made the stars. 17He placed the lights in the sky to shine on the earth, 18to rule over the day and the night, and to separate light from darkness. And God was pleased with what He saw. 19Evening passed and morning came—that was the fourth day." - Genesis 1:14-19 Oinn, on the 4th day of creation, time was properly instituted and done for man's benefit and standpoint, so for man, to easily observe, aided with the creation of two great lights (i.e. Genesis 1:16) If time stops, then, it means 11pm will cease to exist, that what by 11pm that was meant to happen, will not have the chance to come about, hence nothing will happen because there's no 11pm for the event to happen on condition of it happening at/by 11pm. Future ceased, because 11pm, proxy time, was terminated. What's operating, since after the obliteration of time, is perpetuity |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Egypt Hollywood Never Shows You by MuttleyLaff: 7:23pm On Aug 24, 2020 |
donnie: donnie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bphZqgAof9Q |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by MuttleyLaff: 3:40pm On Aug 24, 2020 |
Blabbermouth:You typed the above? Is it the person known on here as Blabbermouth? Or is it a bot? My word is me. I am my word. My word commands respect. Things get done at the voice of my word If I should call you now and you hear my voice speaking, who would you say you've just heard stringing words together? 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by MuttleyLaff: 3:28pm On Aug 24, 2020 |
Blabbermouth:"The Word became a human being and, full of grace and truth, lived among us. We saw his glory, the glory which he received as the Father's only Son." (i.e. And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.) - John 1:14 Yahusha Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ is God incarnated 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by MuttleyLaff: 5:52am On Aug 24, 2020*. Modified: 6:55am On Aug 24, 2020 |
DrLiveLogic:[img]https://media./images/14cd04951335766288c672c30e186f98/tenor.gif[/img] "God is praised for being mysterious; rulers are praised for explaining mysteries (i.e. It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honor of kings is to search out a matter.)" - Proverbs 25:2 So you reckon that, because of limitations to the realm of knowledge's boundaries and premises, it is impossicant to a permissible degree, fathom out mysteries of the world beyond what more the limits reveals, huh? I've never being afraid to ask completely stupid questions and I don't in any foreseeable future, think I'll break the habit. This because the art and science of asking questions is the source of all knowledge. Some people who should be spiritually mature and ready to answer hard questions, aren't spiritually mature enough and ready to answer hard questions, but are ready to stave off who asks hard questions, forgetting that thinking begins, when you're asked really hard/difficult questions. Curiosity, after all, has its own reason for existing. The first responsibility of every believer, is to question. Question unto a void, that is, then find another question to ask, as the important thing is not to stop questioning. Don't be worried over answers. Be worried over not asking questions, important questions, that is. Just find the courage to ask question(s), you're worried or afraid to hear the answer(s). Why? Well it's simply because its the only way you'll know which direction your truth lays to Some many mysteries about pose difficult questions, but denying them, not acknowledging them or even not enquiring about them, maybe out of fear or misplaced piety, is really, not an honest option. All the great theologians honestly and prayerfully wrestled with intellectual difficulties before coming to a new synthesis of certain ideas. DrLiveLogic:The most "I don't understand how your question relates" questions usually have simple answers. All I simply asked, was what's the raison d'être for man's existence, no need to get the hump over mentioning that you brushed off the question. Sorry I asked you DrLiveLogic:Angels as sons of God has never been my position DrLiveLogic:What do you think I am trying to pull off, with James 1:17 "Father of lights" inconjunction with circa Job 38:7's creation narrative, hmm? Should I be quaking in my boots dreading your coming back to it, hmm? DrLiveLogic:There is no darkness, because darkness actually is absence of light. God is the Father of all lights. He births light(s). He projects light(s). Light(s) from within Him come forth. God radiates light. God call out light (i.e. light called da, to make the first day in Genesis 1:3), then fast forward to when He said let there be natural light-giving bodies, namely the sun and moon, the two great lights and also lesser lights, the star (i.e. Genesis 1:14-19) The absence of Light, renders Lucifer, without light and/or no light, automatically and unceremoniously dark. Its just as simple as that DrLiveLogic:"Then the LORD God said, “Behold, the man has become like one of Us, to know good and evil. And now, lest he put out his hand and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live forever" Genesis 3:22 What God, in Genesis 3:22, meant with saying "to know good and evil" is being concerned with what actually is the present case, which is man is set to begin having first hand experiences of several parts of all that's "Beautiful" and all that's "Adversity" (i.e. good and evil) They have become gods, on the basis of to begin judging between beautiful and adversity. Good times & bad times, what's pretty & what's ugly, what's bitter & what's sweet, what's pain & what's pleasure, what's orgasmic & what's not enjoyable, what's sexually arousing & what makes frigid, scream & silence, laughing & crying, smiling & frowning, commotion & tranquility, mourning & partying et cetera. Essentially after eating the fruit of TKGE, the whole shebang spectrum of the tree, will unleash into their world. Now you don't want them, in this state, to eat of the fruit of the Tree of Life, lest they live forever in that fallen state DrLiveLogic:God is Omni know everything. Omni see everything. Omni at everywhere. When you are taking a dump, He is there. When you are stark naked, having a bath, He is there. Whatever you're doing, in the bedroom and under the duvet sheets, He is there. Nothing gets past God God knows every move, right from the cradle to the grave, you make, so affirmative, yes, God already is in the know of your end, even before you made your choice(s) Eve, was determined to eat the fruit of the TKGE, that is determinism. God foreknowing that, at the last hour A&E, exercising freewill, will throw caution to the wind and eat the fruit off the TKGE, is predeterminism. All, God, need doing, is just to wait for A&E to get to that point in the passage of time, for the event to happen. The outcome of all events have negative or positive effects, that either builds you up or breaks you down, but in the midst of the madness of it all, there's a method (i.e. Genesis 1:26-27, there's) We are not a prisoner of the "end", but we are freeborn, right on to the "end", exercising our fundamental creativity rights while journeying to the "end" of where the Owner of breath, asks of the breath back DrLiveLogic:Nope nothing like that at all, because as shadeyinka and I, over and over again harp on, dont impose human beings' standard(s), convention(s), understanding(s) yardstick(s), paradigm(s) et cetera on God because He is beyond their limitations DrLiveLogic:What knowledge is in God's terms, is God being aware of everything to the extent of having an edge over everyone else, hence the "I" in "know I edge" conveying a distinctive sense of, "know with an edge", that gives one, an advantage that makes one stronger and/or more successful than another person or thing without the edge DrLiveLogic: "Indeed, God is great—beyond our knowledge; the number of His years is unsearchable." - Job 36:26 "But there is a God in heaven, who reveals mysteries," - Daniel 2:28a "Oh, how great are God’s riches and wisdom and knowledge! How impossible it is for us to understand his decisions and his ways!" - Romans 11:33 How exactly God knows things, is a mystery. It is difficult to understand and/or impossible to explain and this is partly because God, in fact, is Mysterious. Here is the thing. This specific God's essence and enigmatic nature is beautifully captured, the best, in Yoruba cosmology and mythology, in where He is identified as and called "Eledumare" or "Olodumare", The portmanteau Yoruba word(s), when loosely translated means, the Owner or Custodian of absolute energy and infinite mysteries, who has knowledge of all blessings DrLiveLogic:All thats suffice for you to know about God's original state of existence, is that He is self-existent. He is the Prime mover, initial source of motive power behind every original plan, idea, creation or even situation DrLiveLogic:You're yet to do a thread on any subject discussing the stage for the origin of good and evil because you misunderstand that evil is the absence of good, same way that darkness is the absence of light. Also from not appreciating that, the TKGE, is a figure of speech, with a deeper meaning, giving a wider and encompassing effect, just as "welcome ladies and gentlemen" is a figure of speech, said to comprehensively include the catchment, without being specific of the variables DrLiveLogic:Facepalm and smh. Reiterating, God is "I AM, that I AM," that is meaning, God will be and become whatever is necessary for Him, His purpose(s), His objective(s), His aims, His plan(s) et cetera to be The thing about Triune God, is that God is trinity and more, because God is unknown number of persons. God, in fact, is infinity. He is an Infinite God biblical truth and biblical fact, that God is not a "not-known-number" of person. God, as a matter of fact then, is, x-person and so God, in effect is, ∞-persons, as in, meaning, God is infinite or infinity. God is a Incorporeal. He is a Spirit, without any bound, without limit, without a beginning, without an end. God oxymoronically has no beginning and no end. He is the beginning/first and the end/last. God is someone bigger and larger than any specified number, even three, trinity, triune or trio persons . This means, dont put God in a box. It explains why God in His infinite wisdom didnt allow the word trinity to be printed out black and white kokoro in the Bible Smh DrLiveLogic:How God predicts the future is classified information, however suffice to say God is more than capable unlike us puny mortal human beings, to the future, the end, the destination of the good and evil, like Jacob and Esau et cetera before they in real time made their choices, that prompted their names be put or not be put in the book of life before the foundation of the world DrLiveLogic:"Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created" - Revelation 4:11 God created these people because creativity/creation, nothing what, has a right to exist and expression. So what is creativity and how is it expressed. Creating is expressing one's thought, feeling, abstract idea, concept, sense, inspiration et cetera and doing so, in forms, such as writing, painting, sculpturing, music, work of art, dance, invention et cetera God respects His creation/creatures, respects the creativity and creative space of His creation/creature. Whatever creativity is, it is in part, a solution to a problem. Case in point, Pharaoh, a bag egg creativity, was in part, a solution to, how to keep a family of thereabouts 12 people under cover and protection of a super power to grow into a nation, that will take possession of an already inhabited land as their possession and inheritance Creativity requires experience and experience comes from life and your life is, you, equipped with experience and freewill, to express yourself. I'll re-emphasise that, God, is the Owner or Custodian of absolute energy and infinite mysteries, who has knowledge of all blessings, and if God can walk on water, so thereby defy the law of gravity. I see no difference of God, being the Owner or Custodian of absolute energy, in defying the law of energy conservation, for whatever reason. God is a Spirit. He sees in the spirit realm, the reality that hasn't physically exist or manifest. This is not anything hard or impossible for Him to do. For man it is, but for God it isnt Time and not to cause this to become information overload, necessitated that knowledge gaps be left unfilled, some i's not dotted and t's not crossed 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: BISHOP OYEDEPO: Is CAMA Policy Antichurch? by MuttleyLaff: 3:02am On Aug 24, 2020 |
orunto27:There's no smoke without fire. Something does smells, and the smell sure isn't nice donnie: orunto27: donnie: paxonel: MuttleyLaff: 19 Likes 2 Shares |
| Christianity Etc › Re: BISHOP OYEDEPO: Is CAMA Policy Antichurch? by MuttleyLaff: 2:53am On Aug 24, 2020 |
donnie: helinues:Gbam! Law of God and law of man CodeTemplar: donnie: CodeTemplar:The role of an uninvited third party - the government, is having a duty, to act in the best interests of the environment and society as a whole, it governs, so to protect the governed from being victims, who are financially taken advantage off et cetera donnie: paxonel: donnie:"You must make the tabernacle and design all its furnishings according to the pattern I show you." - Exodus 25:9 "See to it that you make everything according to the pattern shown you on the mountain" - Exodus 25:40 "The place where they serve is a copy and shadow of what is in heaven. This is why Moses was warned when he was about to build the tabernacle: “See to it that you make everything according to the pattern shown you on the mountain.”" - Hebrews 8:5 The pattern is and should be according to what is shown by Yah aka God 10 Likes 4 Shares |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by MuttleyLaff: 3:49pm On Aug 23, 2020 |
Blabbermouth:Please tell, was Lucifer coerced by God to misbehave, hmm? Was Lucifer forced or threatened to usurp God, hmm? Blabbermouth:Even in the garden, no one questioned God, why in the first place did He, without their permissions, create them. Not Adam, not Eve and not the serpent either. A&E didnt question God over why the TKGE was placed within their reach, so what foxtrot uniform charlie kilo are you talking about here Blabbermouth:God didnt say He made Lucifer perfect nah, abeggy. You were "perfect in your ways" is quite different from "made perfect," nah. If Satan was made perfect, Satan wouldn't have fallen from grace to grass off his pedestal Though I am not made perfect, I try to be perfect in my ways, as much as I have the grace and will power too Blabbermouth:Can Lucifer saved himself from the lake of fire. Can Lucifer save death from being thrown into the Lake of Fire with him?. Can Lucifer stop and/or end death, hmm? You are ascribing undue and unmerited credit to Lucifer Blabbermouth:Smh. You are so far up yourself, that you are becoming increasingly less interesting, less making sense and more boring |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by MuttleyLaff: 2:00pm On Aug 23, 2020*. Modified: 2:40pm On Aug 23, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff: DrLiveLogic: Blabbermouth:I have various times tried to extract these "Why" and/or "What" info from others, but to no avail. The last poster I asked similar questions, threw them most back in my face, claiming, dont understand, not understood et cetera |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by MuttleyLaff: 1:42pm On Aug 23, 2020 |
Blabbermouth:I cant wait for you to introduce Satan into all this. I'll be waiting round the corner for you when you do |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by MuttleyLaff: 1:40pm On Aug 23, 2020 |
Blabbermouth:1/ Explain, in detail, leaving no room, for confusion, guessing or doubt how God hardened Pharaoh's heart 2/ Explain, in detail, leaving no room, for confusion, guessing or doubt how Pharaoh will not let go. 3/ What Pharaoh forced by God to do anything against the gift of freewill he was given by God? 4/ Did God give Pharaoh any opportunity to make right choice or not? 5/ If your answer to #4 above if Yes, then how many opportunities/times was Pharaoh given to do the right thing, at the right time and remain on God right side, hmm?? |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by MuttleyLaff: 1:34pm On Aug 23, 2020*. Modified: 1:50pm On Aug 23, 2020 |
Blabbermouth:"And all the people who belong to this world worshiped the beast. They are the ones whose names were not written in the Book of Life that belongs to the Lamb who was slaughtered before the world was made." - Revelation 13:8 "The beast that you saw—it was, and now is no more, but is about to come up out of the Abyss and go to its destruction. And those who dwell on the earth whose names were not written in the Book of Life from the foundation of the world will marvel when they see the beast that was, and is not, and yet will be." - Revelation 17:8 Please do a exegete and hermeneutic on the two above Revelation 13:8 and Revelation 17:8 verses |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by MuttleyLaff: 1:19pm On Aug 23, 2020 |
Blabbermouth:Faceplam and profusely smh. Blabbermouth did God know before hand that Pharaoh will or will not make choice(s) not to let the Israelites free to go worship Him, hmm? |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Tower Of Babel, An Insight Into Space Exploration And Architectural Revolution by MuttleyLaff: 12:19pm On Aug 23, 2020*. Modified: 2:33pm On Aug 23, 2020 |
FOLYKAZE:Smh, you dont miss a trick do you, hmm? So the next card you want to play is now "Really if you are a teacher, you will produce very bad students" abi? Erhn? Smh, why don't you show proof anywhere or anytime on NL of me calling arrogating "teacher" status on myself, or better still show me where I've ever typed that I am teaching, hmm? You are just unbelievably a funnier character than I ever know you are. You are making a scene now, but wont remember that you first started when I reciprocate you with kind, or even stronger. Please learn to stick to the subject matter discussed instead of drawing in your emotions and throwing in overt shades at me. It betrays your feeling of being frustrated because of your lack of depth, from being ill-informed and biblically undereducated FOLYKAZE:See if I care. I think I've previously called you a precious time stealer, precious time killer and a precious time waster anyway. You'll be good riddance to bad rubbish for doing not "waste my time on you again on this thread." It will be my prayers answered, if you slither away to go wallow in ignorance Now slowly read my lips. No, can do. If you are capable of trawling the internet for info on the daydreamed Tower of Babel, it is a piece of cake for you to equally be capable of finding out how the two "amar" and "banah" Aramaic/Hebrew words used in Genesis 11:4 and Genesis 11:5 are defined, and see the idea or meaning of what the words conveyed FOLYKAZE:The word used in the original text is "banah" which is an Aramaic/Hebrew word, that lost its meaning when being translated to English word "Built" FOLYKAZE:FOLYKAZE, now, no prizes, for saying the obvious and/or stating the reason why the tower was not mentioned in Genesis 11:8-9 FOLYKAZE:This more the reason why I was PMSL at your huge leap of conflating the Babylonian king Nebuchadnezzar II built "the Hanging Gardens" with a daydreamed Tower of Babel fanciful mental image that never got built. I even earlier asked you that do you know that there are no biblical mentioning and no archaeological findings of both Nebuchadnezzar II built "the Hanging Gardens" and this supposedly built Tower of Babel stele. Do you remember me asking, hmm? The rule of consistency in writing was not followed on to Genesis 11:8-9 and that is why earlier associated element like the tower was not mentioned in Genesis 11:8-9, for the sole reason that it never in the first place got started. The only thing structurally on ground, that got started was building the city, and so it only got a mention. The building ceased, it was stopped, it was neglected, it was left alone, they quit et cetera "The king spake, and said, Is not this great Babylon, that I have built for the house of the kingdom by the might of my power, and for the honour of my majesty? (i.e. And the king answered, and said: Is not this the great Babylon, which I have built to be the seat of the kingdom, by the strength of my power, and in the glory of my excellence?)" - Daniel 4:30 "As he looked out across the city, he said, ‘Look at this great city of Babylon! (i.e. no mention of tower) By my own mighty power, I have built this beautiful city as my royal residence to display my majestic splendor" - Daniel 4:30 It might interest you to know, it was Hammurabi, Nebuchadnezzar II' father, who later returned to enlarge and strengthen the city, to make it the capital of the Babylonian Empire under Semitic rule. Now when his son, Nebuchadnezzar II, was boasting, as you can see in Daniel 4:30 above, there still is no mention of a tower. You would have thought that something significant, audacious, bold, impressive in appearance, an eye-catching, spectacular, and imposing structure tower would merit a bonafide mention somewhere again in the Bible, but alas, no it doesnt, not even especially, when a window of opportunity, like in Daniel 4:30 presented itself, for Nebuchadnezzar II to show off the tower, but it didnt happen, solely because no tower worth mentioning ever was built FOLYKAZE:No I am not. It is you doing contextomy, trying to distort the original word's intended meaning FOLYKAZE:Of course you wont see "amar" or "banah" because they are found in Genesis 11:4-5 and not in the above various listed English translations of Genesis 11: 6 What you'll find in Genesis 11:6 is the Aramaic/Hebrew word "zamam" I am in a generous mood at the moment, so I will help out with sharing what the above Genesis 11:6, Aramaic/Hebrew word "zamam" in the original text means. You can send me a thank you letter, later, in the post for it. Anyway, it conveys, a sense of, to consider/considers/consideration, intention/intended, plots/plotted, purpose/purposed, schemed and/or plan of action/planned to build the tower. FOLYKAZE:Listen buddy, if I have to, I'll iron it out with courtesy, if you deservedly merit and/or earn it and not before. Who sef, do you think you are, making demands upandan the thread, hmm?  The text doesnt have "The son of men had built the city and tower ... ," in it, this is you embellishing the text FOLYKAZE: 9. Summing Up and Conclusions "This study is initially about a collector who has been indifferent to provenance when acquiring through dealers. Based on the evidence as it now stands, he also seems to have one way or another been involved with networks of smugglers and looters in Pakistan and Afghanistan, and with dealers who provided objects from Iraq, Palestine, Egypt and beyond, and that authorities in these countries have claimed are illicitly sourced. A number of objects have since been shown to be fakes. In all probability, his purchases have supported criminal networks, engendered the destruction of sites, contexts, and objects, the splitting of manuscripts and dispersal of material. To deflect critical questions, gain public acceptance and access public resources, Schøyen created the fiction of a rescue operation. When challenged, he mostly remained silent or engaged third parties (Braarvig, Rugaas, lawyers and other supporters) who helped “spin” his collection. The next facet of this narrative is the researchers who have been actively involved with authenticating, studying, and publishing material, and enabled Schøyen’s dissemination of his hoaxes and fundamentally Orientalist narrative in defense of his acquisition. Beyond the effect of whitewashing Schøyen and his collection, the academic involvement, of individual scholars as well as public institutions, have probably secured and increased the monetary value of his collection." Exerpt from: Exploring the "Cozy Cabal of Academics, Dealers and Collectors" through the Schøyen Collection https://www.researchgate.net/publication/339151985_Exploring_the_Cozy_Cabal_of_Academics_Dealers_and_Collectors_through_the_Schoyen_Collection#read The problem is yours actually, if you aren't aware that the Norwegian antiquities collector Martin Schøyen acquisition(s) is necessarily, NOT, regarded as reliable. There are others, aside the above link debunking his collections FOLYKAZE:Saying OK, is not good enough, instead, deal with it |
Didn't you hear God claim he made him perfect. Is God's definition of perfection now a time frame something?
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