Christianity Etc › Re: The Ibibio Jews Of Nigeria - By Barry Floyd 1969 by MuttleyLaff: 12:04pm On Sep 06, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff: Are the Talmud Jews of Poland too, black skinned, hmm? PrecisionFx: Jews in Poland are simple white caucasian Europeans who practice Judaism as a religion. 1/ Who really brought the Talmud? 2/ Where from, was the Talmud brought (i.e. where originated from)? 3/ What period roughly, was the Talmud brought to Israel?
You aren't telling me what I dont already know. The aim of the question was to get OP, committed to an answer. Please answer the above three easy, direct, simple, innocent, harmless and straightforward questions, since OP has shied from responding to them. Thank you in advance. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Ibibio Jews Of Nigeria - By Barry Floyd 1969 by MuttleyLaff: 12:00pm On Sep 06, 2020 |
lomprico: of course there are different varieties, that's why I said you should check on those commonly found in middle east. If am ignorant you won't be replying my posts. [img] https://dallassmithblog.files./2015/02/israeli-olives.jpg[/img] I am replying you because I suffer ignoramus posts like yours gladly and also to make you not continue to squander the opportunity to learn from the above Israel Jordan market food stall displaying the range and different shades of olive fruit colours, meaning olive fruits aren't predominantly black in colour, as you and sophirebenitez, even with her Spanish last part of the portmanteau " sophirebenitez" ID, incorrectly believe to |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Ibibio Jews Of Nigeria - By Barry Floyd 1969 by MuttleyLaff: 10:13am On Sep 06, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff: [img]https://s7/images/9b7a21528820cf37f639376d38671fb1.jpg[/img] Eating olives is part of my regular staple diet, so I am very familiar with the range or different shades of its colour.
It's the Oga patapata Baba d, me and him get word. I have told donnie, that him and I, don put two feet into same trousers leg. He jumped from Roman Catholicism into Christianity, then from that into Pentarascal and from Pentarascal, he jumped from Pentarascal's steaming frying pan into the this hot fire place he currently is
lomprico: how will I type what I typed without following what you guys were arguing about? I dint join because am just knowing about the topic for the first time. try eh, and Google 'olive fruits in the middle east' that is were isreal lies, select 'images' and see for yourself. [img] https://s5/images/sourcecfa79666e8110220.gif[/img] Continue publicly showcasing your ignorance of the range or different shades of olive fruit colours in the Middle East. OK?
I'll repeat again that, eating olives is part of my regular staple diet.
I am 10000% you dont need vision correction and so clearly can see the above range or different shades of olive fruits colour. Smh. Funny character upandan NL. KMT |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Story Of The Rich Man And Lazarus Is Not A Parable by MuttleyLaff: 10:05am On Sep 06, 2020*. Modified: 5:18pm On Sep 06, 2020 |
chiommy123: Most times I do not understand arguments about heaven and hell why don't we live right do our possible best to avoid sin at the end if there's heaven we partake of the blessings and if there's not we are still OK cos we did the right thing. I believe there's heaven and hell though "14So the trouble is not with the law, for it is spiritual and good. The trouble is with me, for I am all too human, a slave to sin. 15I don’t really understand myself, for I want to do what is right, but I don’t do it. Instead, I do what I hate. 16But if I know that what I am doing is wrong, this shows that I agree that the law is good. 17So I am not the one doing wrong; it is sin living in me that does it. 18And I know that nothing good lives in me, that is, in my sinful nature. I want to do what is right, but I can’t. 19I want to do what is good, but I don’t. I don’t want to do what is wrong, but I do it anyway. 20But if I do what I don’t want to do, I am not really the one doing wrong; it is sin living in me that does it. 21I have discovered this principle of life—that when I want to do what is right, I inevitably do what is wrong. 22I love God’s law with all my heart. 23But there is another powere within me that is at war with my mind. This power makes me a slave to the sin that is still within me. 24Oh, what a miserable person I am! Who will free me from this life that is dominated by sin and death? 25Thank God! The answer is in Jesus Christ our Lord. So you see how it is: In my mind I really want to obey God’s law, but because of my sinful nature I am a slave to sin" - Romans 7:14-25
This is what Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ, God Incarnate, came down to earth to do for us, that, so we can have the power to live right, have the power to do our possible best to avoid sin, so that at the end of it all, we partake in eternal blessings of the kingdom of Heaven and OTHERS end up in the Lake of fire, where death and hell already have appointments with too
PS: Edited upon request, with adding clarity (i.e. OTHERS) |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Ibibio Jews Of Nigeria - By Barry Floyd 1969 by MuttleyLaff: 9:42am On Sep 06, 2020 |
sophirebenitez: www.nairaland.com/attachments/12278633_screenshot20200906005326_jpega82c7e87cf3ba295f94fd9a87591c1ac
I hope this picture of olives growing in modern day Galilee cures your unbelief. I can see that its actually you, who has quite a lot to learn, so to cure your unbelief and ignorance donnie: Dont mind the criminal
MuttleyLaff: [img]https://s7/images/9b7a21528820cf37f639376d38671fb1.jpg[/img]
Eating olives is part of my regular staple diet, so I am very familiar with the range or different shades of its colour.
It's the Oga patapata Baba d, me and him get word. I have told donnie, that him and I, don put two feet into same trousers leg. He jumped from Roman Catholicism into Christianity, then from that into Pentarascal and from Pentarascal, he jumped from Pentarascal's steaming frying pan into the this hot fire place he currently is sophirebenitez, don't trust whenever donnie says to you, good evening. Make it a point of duty, to first, pull aside your window curtains, to check for yourself, if true, it really is evening, Or else, you will be complicit, an accessory, aiding and abetting in the identity thief, covetousness, avarice, telling lies et ceteta crimes he is committing
MuttleyLaff: I can see that its actually you, who has quite a lot to learn, so to cure your unbelief and ignorance
sophirebenitez, don't trust whenever donnie says to you, good evening. Make it a point of duty, to first, pull aside your window curtains, to check for yourself, if true, it really is evening, Or else, you will be complicit, an accessory, aiding and abetting in the identity thief, covetousness, avarice, telling lies et ceteta crimes he is committing lomprico: the end ! you have finished him.  [img] https://s8/images/FacePalmSmh0558d50dc2ed0cf2.gif[/img] Some posters, like this one above, find it challenging reading through a thread from beginning to end |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Story Of The Rich Man And Lazarus Is Not A Parable by MuttleyLaff: 3:54am On Sep 06, 2020 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: The Ibibio Jews Of Nigeria - By Barry Floyd 1969 by MuttleyLaff: 3:45am On Sep 06, 2020*. Modified: 4:36am On Sep 06, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff: Baba, is a heretic, scammer, fraudster, identity thief, liar, deceiver, a by all means necessary wannabe Israelite, a better late than never, JJC lately, stubborn grasshopper, that always ends up, in the belly of the bird.
Look at the way, he abandoned the earlier "Blue Letter Bible" Lexicon he posted from with all the red highlighted marked up arrows and underlines, to now settle for an incorrectly rendered "Eth Cepher" Jeremiah 31:31 version , when the same "Blue Letter Bible" Lexicon has Jeremiah 31:31 "chadash," translated as an adjective and rendered the word as new and not renewed, a verb
What a dishonest and hypocrite saw dust for brain, senile quadragenarian Baba he is 
AbdulSleeky: Another foolish Jew wanna-be post.
You are from the oldest peoples known to man, yet you want to claim to be a Jew. Is that how low your self esteem has fallen? [img] https://s8/images/tumblr_p30yvkUDAH1vjfs5ho1_500.gif[/img] |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Ibibio Jews Of Nigeria - By Barry Floyd 1969 by MuttleyLaff: 3:20am On Sep 06, 2020*. Modified: 3:39am On Sep 06, 2020 |
sophirebenitez: www.nairaland.com/attachments/12278633_screenshot20200906005326_jpega82c7e87cf3ba295f94fd9a87591c1ac
I hope this picture of olives growing in modern day Galilee cures your unbelief. I can see that its actually you, who has quite a lot to learn, so to cure your unbelief and ignorance donnie: Dont mind the criminal
MuttleyLaff: [img]https://s7/images/9b7a21528820cf37f639376d38671fb1.jpg[/img]
Eating olives is part of my regular staple diet, so I am very familiar with the range or different shades of its colour.
It's the Oga patapata Baba d, me and him get word. I have told donnie, that him and I, don put two feet into same trousers leg. He jumped from Roman Catholicism into Christianity, then from that into Pentarascal and from Pentarascal, he jumped from Pentarascal's steaming frying pan into the this hot fire place he currently is sophirebenitez, don't trust whenever donnie says to you, good evening. Make it a point of duty, to first, pull aside your window curtains, to check for yourself, if true, it really is evening, Or else, you will be complicit, an accessory, aiding and abetting in the identity thief, covetousness, avarice, telling lies et ceteta crimes he is committing |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Ibibio Jews Of Nigeria - By Barry Floyd 1969 by MuttleyLaff: 3:12am On Sep 06, 2020*. Modified: 11:10am On Sep 06, 2020 |
nsiba: Your inferiority complex is irredeemable, who are whites? You this lunatic still thinking you must attach yourself either to Arab or Jew before anything good can be said of your identity, must really be primitive fool. If you ever drag Ibibios to your madness may the God of our ancestors scatter your already miserable useless Jews seeking life.... Ekpo Unam ikot [img] https://s5/images/ezgif-2-bb81ab7ea10d.gif[/img] Ekpo unam ikot mpko indeed!
You remind me of two things. The animal madness of Nebuchadnezzar (i.e. Daniel 4:32-33) and Fela's " ... animals in human skins, animal in craze-man skin-i. Craze world. Na craze world be dat..." et cetera "Beasts of No Nation" lyrics. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Story Of The Rich Man And Lazarus Is Not A Parable by MuttleyLaff: 9:58pm On Sep 05, 2020*. Modified: 4:07am On Sep 06, 2020 |
DappaD: So when someone simply says “I accept Jesus as my personal Lord and Savior”, the person is no longer bound to go to this mythical “hellfire” of yours? 
Please can you show Biblical evidence of this Lazarus being a worshiper of God or a follower of Jesus that he merited going to heaven?  If this was a true event that happened and Lazarus truly went to heaven, then Jesus was lying that before him NOBODY ELSE had ascended up to heaven—John 3:13.
Churchgoers who have differing beliefs about this “hellfire” will often miscontrue the PARABLE OF THE RICH MAN AND LAZARUS to fit their own useless doctrines. Take a look at your concluding statements, you so so so want people to burn forever in your mythical nonsense!  Something that had never come into God's heart at anytime—Jeremiah 7:31 Oh pulease, dont think too highly of yourself. Do you really think you can burn for ever and ever, hmm? Smh.
Now why not please answer this question. In biblical times, and talking of Gehenna, well, it is a valley, a valley in Jerusalem, used as a dumping refuse site and so was used by Yahshua Ha Mashiach to depict the Lake of fire (i.e. it is a place of destruction, as in, via incineration, a place for destroying things) was the fire in Gehenna ever stopped burning or never smouldering, hmm? Has the penny now dropped? DappaD: I'll leave you with one question which should be easy to answer—using the Scriptures, that is.
Can you tell me where Adam presently is right now?
Is he in this mythical “hellfire” ? Or somewhere else? Please do answer in earnest with Scriptures, thanks. "The Spirit of the Almighty LORD is with me because the LORD has anointed me to deliver good news to humble people. He has sent me to heal those who are brokenhearted, to announce that captives will be set free and prisoners will be released." - Isaiah 61:1
"8That's why the Scriptures say: "When He went to the highest place, He took captive those who had captured us and gave gifts to people." 9Now what does it mean that He went up except that He also had gone down to the lowest parts of the earth (i.e. Hades)? 10The one who had gone down also went up above all the heavens so that he fills everything. OR 8That is why the Scriptures say, “When he ascended to the heights, He led a crowd of captives and gave gifts to His people.” 9Notice that it says “He ascended.” This clearly means that Christ also descended to our lowly world. 10And the same one who descended is the one who ascended higher than all the heavens, so that He might fill the entire universe with Himself." - Ephesians 4:8-10
"I am the Living One; I was dead, and now look, I am alive for ever and ever! And I hold the keys of death and Hades" - Revelation 1:18
Fyi, when, Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ fulfilled Isaiah 61:1 in Ephesians 4:8 by leading captivity captive, and so, Adam was set free from the confinement of Sheol/Hades/Hell to be welcomed into Paradise.
Prior to Paradise, the righteous and unrighteous were all in Sheol but separated by a chasm/gulf. Everyone are conscious, on that side of eternity, in the land of dead, but once the crossover is made, they automatically stop having contact, connection, interaction et cetera with human being/souls in the land of living side.
As you can see from, Revelation 1:18 above, Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ, has the keys of death and Hades. So Adam is just right there, where his son, Abel, is, in Paradise. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Story Of The Rich Man And Lazarus Is Not A Parable by MuttleyLaff: 9:57pm On Sep 05, 2020*. Modified: 10:21pm On Sep 05, 2020 |
Janosky:
 Please don't STOP to DECEIVE YOURSELF The Principle of Precedence is well established, we know God punished Adam, we know God punished Sodom/Gomorrah, we know God punished the rebellious sons of korah, we know God punished wickedness of Noah's day. We know God punished Ananias& Sapphira. None of them with perpetual, everlasting torture and torment. OP, I challenge you to name the person who God have kept in perpetual torture and torment since their death. Please show where OP in original post typed to the effect that God will have people kept in perpetual torture and torment since their death. If you cant then please put a lid on. Thanks  CodeTemplar: Are you implying there is no hell? Maximus69: There is HELL! It's the common GRAVE that all dead people are kept! Even Jesus went to HELL but God did not allow Him to perish there!  Sheol/Hades/Hell is for sinners. There is no way Sheol/Hades/Hell would hold or contain the God incarnate, in whom no sin is foundCodeTemplar: So why was there a distance between Lazarus and the rich man after death if was the common grave dead men go to? Maximus69: My guy use your brains for once nah! 
That's not a story but a Prophetic illustration! 
Lazarus ~ common Jews who only goes to the temple (Rich Man's gate) to take home whatever the Pharisees and Saddusees infuse in their brains, that's the food dropping from the Rich Man's table!
Rich Man ~ Pharisees, Saddusees, Scribes and other Jewish Rabbis loading the people with unbearable human traditions!
Lazarus's ulcers ~ hardship experienced by common Jews due to the heavy burdens of the man-made traditions!
Dogs licking his wounds ~ Pagan nations like Rome dominating them due to their condition!
Their death ~ When Jesus arrived to make his choice of disciples amongst the Jews!
Father Abraham's bosom Favour as Jesus chose common Jews promising them of heavenly glory in God's kingdom!
Rich Man's torment When Christians began performing signs to prove what Prophet Joel said about those that will be blessed after the coming of the Christ (Messiah) Joel 2:28 compare to Act 2:16-18
Rich Man's comments When the religious leaders were worried as Christians kept declaring the resurrection of Jesus with powerful signs, they began fighting them to stop the preaching! Act 4:18; 5:28
Father Abraham's reply God's holy spirit continue to strengthen the Christians to preach and teach in all the regions instead of giving in to the threat of their rulers!
Rich Man's brothers ~ Future Satan's agents who will also be tormented anytime the truth is preached!
Moses and the Prophets ~ The Bible Scriptures that everyone needs to carefully consider before pitching his tent for worship!
So it's not a real life event but a Parable!  [img] https://s8/images/ObamaMuttley.gif[/img] So. It doesnt mean there's no element of truth & reality in it
Why didnt Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ, say to the thief on the RHS, that today you meet me at Abraham's bosom, but instead said Paradise, huh?Janosky: Bros, use your brain..... Why would someone in hellfire (rich man) see somebody in heaven (Lazarus) ? Una Christendom no talk say heaven dey above and hellfire pit dey below?
Do you know that in Luke 16:19-31, the Greek word there is Hades?
Hades is NOT a place of torture, Bros go and learn 
Luke 16:19-31 is a parable, fulstop! Who have you read said it was a place of torture, hmm?CodeTemplar: Extreme stupidity. So a simple question about a fact that your initial submission doesn't explaini is what you are playing stupíd games for? Answer the question directly or get lost. Gbam!
MuttleyLaff: I will explain "how" and affirmative, I do 10000% believe in "Sheol" as you soon would see confirmed in my considerable long winded explanation
Hell or better put, Hades, actually is, a Greek concept, and the Jews, in reality have no concept of Hell or Hades, they have Sheol, alright, but as for the concept of Hell or Hades, this is a Greek one.
Now Blabber\mouth, it will interest you to appreciate, that, Sheol is more of a proper and real biblical Israelite concept of where the dead are ''interned'' Sheol in an oversimplified or elementary manner can be grave and/or has been referred to as grave
Grave aka tomb, crypts, ossuaries, sepulchre sites, cemetery, catacombs, mausoleum et cetera are merely places of deposit for a corpse. So Blabbermouth, Sheol is the realm of where the dead or departed souls are confined, sent down into, held et cetera.
Contrary to popular belief, souls, do not linger in the air. Souls, do not stay in limbo. Souls, do not hang about. Souls, do not make revisits et cetera
Blabber\mouth, real magic happens when you understand the "how" So this is "how" the real magic happened/happens. Over here, we accept Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior of the whole wide world, believe in Him as the Son of God, by default become automatically born-again (i.e. born from high) and because of the confession with mouth, that “Jesus is Lord,” and believing in our heart that God raised Him from the dead, we are saved by His grace, but here is the thing, until Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ in the New Testament astonishing interjection, Sheol, in general, to the Jews, without necessarily distinguishing between righteous or unrighteous souls, has been the realm of the dead or abode of the dead. Period.
We have verses in OT (e.g. Psalm 9:17 etcetera) suggesting that the wicked go to Sheol but it was, Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ in the New Testament that brought things into perspective when He shared the hyperbolic illustration of Sheol with the story of the Rich Man being elsewhere and Abraham with the Poor Man being on a different side.
Remember Blabber\mouth, just like because you're telling a joke, it doesn't necessarily mean, the joke is devoid of some element of truth and reality, so is the case with the parable of the rich man and poor man hyperbolic illustration, given by Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ
Digging in deeper into this. Sheol (i.e. the original Hebrew concept of afterlife) now, has gray lines shared with Gehenna (i.e. the refuse dump in Jerusalem hyperbolically referred to, by Jesus in Matthew 5:29 Matthew 18:9 and Mark 9:47) and Hell (i.e. a Greek mythology and Greek concept of afterlife) which arent by most, really understood.
The etymology of afterlife from a Jewish concept (i.e. Sheol, with 2 sections) has changed over time and Sheol, since, has being interchangeably replaced with Gehenna and Hell/Hades
Reiterating, Hell which has become synonymous with Hades, is neither Hebrew or Greek in origin. Sheol is, what you'll find in the original Hebrew text for any word for Hell. In other places, Hades or Hell was the Greek substitution for the part of Sheol where the Rich man is, from the Parable of the Rich Man and Lazarus
As a matter of fact, Hell, actually finds it roots in the classic Greek mythology, Hades, where Hades interestingly and actually, was the ancient Greek god of the underworld's name. This god's name (i.e. Hades) later turned to mean the place or abode of the dead, which actually is exactly what Sheol is, what is signifies or represents.
If we are to talk about Gehenna, well it is a valley, a valley in Jerusalem, used as a dumping refuse site and so was used by Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ to depict the Lake of fire (i.e. it is a place of destruction, as in, via incineration, a place for destroying things)
As I have earlier mentioned, where Gehenna was the incinerating refuse dump in Jerusalem, Hades however, historically and originally is the name of a Greek god until it got turned to meaning the place or abode of the dead. It later got interchanged with Hell, which is from a German word root.
It was bible translators who were substituting the original Hebrew word Sheol (i.e. the part where the dead of the Rich man sort are), with Greek counterparts Hades/Hell that made the legacy word(s), Hades/Hell, stick with us today
Death, is not a physical person but it will cease to exist because it will be destroyed when figuratively thrown into a physical lake of fire
Blabber\mouth, on a side note, this might interest you, do you know that in Yoruba spirituality, there is the absence of a concept of sin and that doubly interesting, in same Yoruba spirituality, there is the absence eternal damnation or any kind of judgement after the end of the world. Yoruba spirituality happens to be Hell/Hades/Lake of Fire agnostic
I hope, Blabber\mouth, you didn't find my the "how" explanation long winded, just as I did advanced warn |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Story Of The Rich Man And Lazarus Is Not A Parable by MuttleyLaff: 9:55pm On Sep 05, 2020 |
Ken4Christ: The story of the Rich man and Lazarus is not a parable. This story was narrated by our Lord Jesus as recorded in Luke 16:19-31
19 There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day: 20 And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores, 21 And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores. 22 And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried; 23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. 24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame. 25 But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented. 26 And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence. 27 Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house: 28 For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment. 29 Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them. 30 And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent. 31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead. If you examine this passage, specific characters where mentioned; Lazarus, Abraham and Moses. I believe Jesus knows the name of the rich man but deliberately didn't mention it.
In parables, specific characters are not mentioned. I challenge anyone who thinks otherwise to mention any other parable where names where mentioned.
Our Lord Jesus said this by revelation just the way he told the woman of Samaria he met in the well her past.
Even if you insist it's a parable, it doesn't change the message. It still proves that lost souls will go to hell. You don't tell parables with things that are not real. All the parables of Jesus are illustrated with realities.
Besides, there are many other Scriptures that supports the existence of a burning hell. Scriptures must not be interpreted in isolation.
Please, give your life to Jesus if you haven't done so. Hell is real. You have been warned. The torment there is unbearable. God doesn't send people to hell. Your decision does.
MuttleyLaff: We have verses in Old Testament (e.g. Psalm 9:17 et cetera) suggesting that the wicked go to Sheol but it actually was Yahushua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ, in the New Testament, who with shedding more light on the subject, brought things into their proper and clearer perspective for us, when He shared the hyperbolic illustration of Sheol, with the story of the Rich Man, being elsewhere and then Abraham, with the Poor Man, being on a different side.
Remember that, just like because you're telling a joke, it doesnt necessarily mean, the joke is devoid of some element of truth and reality in it, so is the case with the parable of the rich man and poor man, or even FOLY\KAZE's tortoise story |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Ibibio Jews Of Nigeria - By Barry Floyd 1969 by MuttleyLaff: 8:19pm On Sep 05, 2020 |
donnie: Nope they are not, they are converts who practice Judaism and who also make up the population in present-day state of Israel along with those of Germany, Turkey Russia etc. 1/ Who really brought the Talmud? 2/ Where from, was the Talmud brought? 3/ What period roughly, was the Talmud brought to Israel?
If you at all know all you're bleating about, please answer the above three easy, direct, simple, innocent, harmless and straightforward questions. Thank you in advance.donnie: Abeg commot for road, I'm not here for you. YAH's sheep will hear his voice, repent and turn from their wicked ways. https://i.pinimg.com/236x/e9/f9/dd/e9f9dd264eb560ba30a485c61ce1c603--olive-skin-hair-color-hair-color-brown.jpg https://www.quora.com/What-is-olive-skin I am 24/7/365 ever here for you and that is because you're delusional, you're mistaken, you're dishonest, you're untruthful and you're insincere. I predict that before 5 years time, you will change your tune. Please go mark my words.
PS: Looks like the bot has slammed you with a kit-kat notice |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Ibibio Jews Of Nigeria - By Barry Floyd 1969 by MuttleyLaff: 7:29pm On Sep 05, 2020 |
donnie: My friend look up the definition of swarthy and don't be silly.  Please answer the three easy, direct, simple, innocent, harmless and straightforward questions
Also let's find out how honest, sincere and truthful you are. Is olive skinned not in then list off the definition for swarthy, hmm?
I think it will be silly of you to deny or refute this, don't you?  |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Ibibio Jews Of Nigeria - By Barry Floyd 1969 by MuttleyLaff: 6:30pm On Sep 05, 2020 |
donnie: Nope they are not, they are converts who practice Judaism and who also make up the population in present-day state of Israel along with those of Germany, Turkey Russia etc. 1/ Who really brought the Talmud? 2/ Where from, was the Talmud brought? 3/ What period roughly, was the Talmud brought to Israel?donnie: One of the reasons the rebellious house of YAHUNDE/JUDAH (Negroes) dominated Spain and Portugal and infact Europe for centuries (alongside the Moors) were destroyed, enslaved and expelled (between 1400s-1500s) is because many accepted and began to practice the Babylonian Talmud. C'mon donnie, I have copies of those two books, you are busy screenshooting here. You are deliberating highlighting out of context concerning swarthy because the word is usually used to describe someone whose skin is weather beaten and darkened by the sun (e.g. Song of Solomon 1:5-6) or has an olive complexion. which conversant of the people group from the Levant region or the Mediterranean Sea region |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Ibibio Jews Of Nigeria - By Barry Floyd 1969 by MuttleyLaff: 4:13pm On Sep 05, 2020 |
donnie: The Ibibios have persistently stated that their ancestors were Jews and believe themselves to be related to the greater Jewish world. Same belief is held by certain Igbos.
The "CERTAIN IBOS" are the IBIBIO remnants of OLD IBOM (AROCHUKWU) and other areas where IBIBIOS have been assimilated by the Igbos who migrated and later took over lands originally belonging to the Ibibio.
Instances are cited of similarities between IBIBIO and HEBREW in sentence structure, idioms, proverbs, and word usage. Common social customs, such as certain forms of purification, have also been noted. Were small colonies of Jews deported from Portugal and established along this section of the Guinea coast in the sixteenth century, to be absorbed by the dominant Negro population in later years?
Well, while it's quite possible that small colonies of black European Jews deported from Spain and Portugal did settle along the coastal regions of OLD CALABAR-AKWA IBOM axis, the IBIBIOS have a longstanding oral history of migration from the northern kingdom of ancient Israel through Egypt and Sudan all the way to Cameroon and, finally, Southeastern Nigeria, settling first in the district now known as IBOM (Aro-Chukwu). Talbot estimated that the igbo-group invaded the present day Arochukwu with the help of some Ekoi to drive away the original Ibibio occupants of the area. He suggested that this war must have taken place between 1300and 1400 A.D and caused them to resettle in their present area.
But the Ibibio people had their IBIT ITAM temples as well as PYRAMIDS at NSUDI (NSUDE) near UDI (Itiat Udi) where they practiced SUN WORSHIP very similar to those of ancient Egypt and the Canaanites. This should not be surprising since the children of Israel were known not only to have learnt the customs of Egyptians having lived in and migrated to and from Egypt, they broke the commandments of the Most High in worshipping and burning incense to the sun, even while still in Jerusalem (2 Kings 23:5,11; Deuteronomy 17:3) for which reason they were driven out of their land (Deut 4:25-28).
Ezekiel 8 15“Son of man,” He said to me, “do you see this? Yet you will see even greater abominations than these.” 16 So He brought me to the inner court of the house of YAHUAH, and there at the entrance to the temple of YAHUAH, between the portico and the altar, were about twenty-five men with their backs to the temple of YAHUAH and their faces toward the east; and they were bowing to the east in worship of the sun. 17“Son of man,” He said to me, “do you see this? Is it not enough for the house of Judah to commit the abominations they are practicing here, that they must also fill the land with violence and continually provoke Me to anger? Look, they are even putting the branch to their nose! https://books.google.com/books?id=XyyxCwAAQBAJ&printsec=frontcover#v=onepage&q&f=false Are the Talmud Jews of Poland too, black skinned, hmm? |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Most Mysterious Doctrine - The Trinity of The Godhead by MuttleyLaff: 3:56pm On Sep 05, 2020 |
sonmvayina: Thst is not what i asked...how can the maker also be part of his creation..you are just beating about the bush You don't understand what you are asking.
My friend, you find it incomprehensible that the Maker can be part of His creation because you dont know/understand that Him being part of creation is part of the end justify the means (i.e. the means of being part of His creation) |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Most Mysterious Doctrine - The Trinity of The Godhead by MuttleyLaff: 3:08pm On Sep 05, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff: ... Reasoning plays a lot in fully getting to knowing God and correctly understanding everything about Him. As I've previously posted, the brain, isn't an ornament, given to just decorate the body with, but, we are blessed with this powerfully built processing functional gift for a purpose, for a reason, for such a time as this and especially for such a discussion as this.
sonmvayina: Just think about it for a moment..use your brain..it is not decoration..God created heaven and esrth..agreed..so how can he also be part of earth? Is he not supposed to be outside of it..just like steve jobs and the iphone he created.. "How horrible it will be for the one who quarrels with his Maker. (i.e. Woe to those who quarrel with their Maker ...) He is pottery among other earthenware pots. (i.e. those who are nothing but potsherds among the potsherds on the ground) Does the clay ask the one who shapes it, "What are you making?" Does your work say to you, "There are no handles"?" - Isaiah 45:9
"How foolish can you be? He is the Potter, and he is certainly greater than you, the clay! Should the created thing say of the one who made it, “He didn’t make me”? Does a jar ever say, “The potter who made me is stupid”?" - Isaiah 29:16
"But, my friend, I ask, "Who do you think you are to question God? Does the clay have the right to ask the potter why he shaped it the way he did? " - Romans 9:20
Why cant you at least be original, instead of repeating after me, the same line, I already have used before you. Cant you for the life of you, try and be a bit different and have the ability to say a different/new line or think originally, hmm?
I reiterate, Bible 101, never use the same human yardstick to compare and judge God with. Mtcheew. KMT  |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Most Mysterious Doctrine - The Trinity of The Godhead by MuttleyLaff: 2:38pm On Sep 05, 2020 |
sonmvayina: [s]How can God be the creator and still be part of creation..does not make any sense..it is just like saying steve jobs and the iphone battery and iphone charger are 1...what is the wisdom in it?[/s] Bible 101, never use the same human yardstick to compare and judge God with. Mtcheew. KMT  |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Most Mysterious Doctrine - The Trinity of The Godhead by MuttleyLaff: 2:32pm On Sep 05, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff: My dear Sir, with the utmost respect, you are just obfuscating a very simple, penny plain explanation, but its all good, its alright, as I have a few easy, direct, simple, innocent, harmless, straightforward questions to ask you
Watch this Dtruth\speaker,for the sake of this discussion, imagine you had supernatural abilities, that makes it possible for you to project yourself, outwards from your body into a different place and time. You are still the same with the projection, lets call it "son" and call you the "father".
1/ Whose bidding, respectfully, do you think "son" will be doing? 2/ Is "son" not you, the "father"? 3/ Is "son" not distinct from you, the "father"? 4/ Is "son" and you the "father" not the same person known as Dtruth\speaker? 5/ Does "son" not see you the "father" Dtruth\speaker, do good things? 6/ Does "son" not have the same power as you, the "father" Dtruth\speaker? 7/ Did "son" not come from you, the "father" Dtruth\speaker? 8/ Is "son" not equal to the "father" Dtruth\speaker, yet not clinging to that status, so to fulfil all righteousness in that way, hmm? 9/ Would "son," being you the "father" Dtruth\speaker, have the ability and power to see into humans' heart, know their thoughts, tell what they're thinking, or what they desire, just like you the "father" Dtruth\speaker have that ability to do, hmm? In other words, similar from 1 Samuel 9:19 and 1 Samuel 10:19&26. 10/ Who really, in this scenario, is the "son"?
I look forward to you addressing the questions directly and/or head-on Acehart: Cc:Dtruthspeaker
Dtruthspeaker: Humbly, I once thought projection too but the flaw of the Projection Theory is that a Projection reapeats in sync what the Projector projects.
Hence based on Projection my answers must be restricted to me, the father and projector, hence questions
1)= is My Bidding not his; 2) = I am the father and a projection is not a son but a replica as a mirror image or a shadow; 3) = in Projection, No for a projection is not a separate person as a son but a shadow or mirror reflection of the projector; 4) = No, for I am a person but my image is unreal and intangible; 5)= in Projection, No, for he does not see, for he is not a living or real thing; 6) in Projection, No, for Power can only be given to a living thing or real thing; 7) I am the one projecting so the projection comes from the projector: 8 ) in Projection, the Projector is Real but the projection is not, therefore, they are not the same neither are they equal; 9) in Projection, the Projector is the one doing the work not the projection; so no reward for the projection 10) The Projector is the only real object. Thank you for being a sport in answering all the 10 questions. You started very well, but you went on a downward trajectory from making dishonest replies from question #2 right up to question #10, considering the fact you know the projection was a "son" of you the "father" Dtruthspeaker, you dishonestly won't acknowledge the "son" projected, as being, real, living, have a body, had demonstrable power of healing, feeding, weeping, sleeping et cetera. You deceived yourself thinking you are deceiving me. You were being foolhardy, thinking you were being smartypants. You were being dumb, thinking you were being clever. SmhMuttleyLaff: "Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love Me, for I proceeded forth and came from God; nor have I come of Myself, but He sent Me." - John 8:42
In John 8:42 above, "exerchomai" is the Greek original word, translated as "proceeded forth". By definition, it means, to go or come out of, with mention of the place out of which one goes, or of the point from which one departs. So, John 8:42 above, makes no mistake, where from, Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ proceeded forth and came out from. Dtruthspeaker: Which is why I am saying that, that reasoning does not apply in the case of Our Lord. "“Come now, let us reason together,” says the LORD ..." - Isaiah 1:18a
It is not only in Isaiah 1:18a above, that God invites to reason with Him. Another case in point, of reasoning with God, is explained in Hebrews 11:19 about one of the many reasoning Abraham had with God and also had about God
Reasoning plays a lot in fully getting to knowing God and correctly understanding everything about Him. As I've previously posted, the brain, isn't an ornament, given to just decorate the body with, but, we are blessed with this powerfully built processing functional gift for a purpose, for a reason, for such a time as this and especially for such a discussion as this.Dtruthspeaker: And in fact I just saw John 17, Christ is Rendering Account, Giving Report and Making Petitions to Someone else. No projection can do that and one is thought a lunatic if a person speaks to Himself, which is not case here at all; [img] https://s8/images/FacePalmSmh.gif[/img] Smh at above avalanche of confused dot com. Your theology is suspect. Do you really expect the "Father" to render account to the "Son" ni, hmm?
In your narrow-minded, short changing, limited view of God, you say, it is a hard and impossible action for God to carry out projecting Himself out as a living, real, powerful, incarnated being of Himself.
I concur without demur that with human beings, it is an impossible thing for any to do, but I unreservedly put it to you that, with God all things are possible (i.e. Matthew 19:26)
You can take this from me, that, everything if it isn't bible based, if its not scripture, if it can't be bible fact check, I wouldn't bother share
With me you are among friends, among the brethren, you are in safe company because I am not proselytising, I am not pitching a product, I am not teaching, I am not after anyone's money. I am not compounding or adding any more evil into all you already have. I dont have any hidden agenda or ulterior motive et cetera |
Christianity Etc › Re: True Facts About Astrology by MuttleyLaff: 11:42am On Sep 05, 2020*. Modified: 6:37pm On Sep 05, 2020 |
Bodydialect57: As in Shibboleth or Sibboleth? Nah, as in one has to do with astronomy and the other with astrologyPS: Bodydialect57 CYM |
Christianity Etc › Re: True Facts About Astrology by MuttleyLaff: 9:52am On Sep 05, 2020 |
Bodydialect57: Mazzaloth Mazzaroth?? Yep. There is a difference between them. The former, is all to do with profane knowledge, trying to get an edge in a dark way et cetera while the latter, tells a story and reveals sacred knowledge et cetera |
Christianity Etc › Re: True Facts About Astrology by MuttleyLaff: 9:10am On Sep 05, 2020 |
Bodydialect57: Now when Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judea in the days of Herod the king, behold, there came wise men from the east to Jerusalem,
2 Saying, Where is he that is born King of the Jews? for we have seen his star in the east, and are come to worship him].
3 When Herod the king had heard these things, he was troubled, and all Jerusalem with him.
4 And when he had gathered all the chief priests and scribes of the people together, he demanded of them where Christ should be born.
5 And they said unto him, In Bethlehem of Judea: for thus it is written by the prophet,
6 And thou Bethlehem, in the land of Judah, art not the least among the princes of Judah: for out of thee shall come a Governor, that shall rule my people Israel.
7 Then Herod, when he had privily called the wise men, inquired of them diligently,, what time the star appeared.
8 And he sent them to Bethlehem, and said, Go and search diligently for the young child; and when ye have found him, bring me word again,, that I may come and worship him also.
9 When they had heard the king, they departed; and, lo, the star, which they saw in the east, went before them, till it came and stood over where the young child was. 10 When they saw the star, they rejoiced with exceeding great joy. Matthew 2:1-10 Matthew 2:10, is about part of the sacred signs told by the "Mazzaroth" monitored and hence seen by the wise men and not profane sign(s) told by the "Mazzaloth" |
Christianity Etc › Re: True Facts About Astrology by MuttleyLaff: 8:29am On Sep 05, 2020 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: True Facts About Astrology by MuttleyLaff: 8:25am On Sep 05, 2020 |
Astrology101: Hi Guys, I am back. I will be updating this thread with Astrology facts.
Whether you’re a firm believer in what the stars have to say about your life or you just like to have a little fun reading your weekly horoscope, there is so much more to astrology than most folks realize.
In fact, as a personal hobby of mine, I thought I had a pretty good grasp on the study of celestial bodies. But apparently I was only scratching the surface. There are plenty more fascinating aspects of astrology — especially when it comes to Mercury going into the always-dreaded retrograde phase.
Lets learn together.
You will be inspired!
Firstly, Lets drop our sun sign, rising sign and your moon sign.
I have an Aquarius Sun, Scorpio Rising and Leo Moon. What about you?! [img] https://s8/images/AstronomyAstrology.jpg[/img] "And God said, "Let there be lights in the expanse of the sky for the illumination of the day, to give light on the earth, and to rule the day and the night, and to separate between the day and the night. And let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and for years;" - Genesis 1:14
"31“Can you bind the cluster of the Pleiades,(i.e. the Seven Stars) Or loose the belt of Orion? 32Can you bring out Mazzaroth (i.e. The Constellations of the Zodiac) in its season? Or can you guide the Great Bear (i.e. Arcturus ) with its cubs?" - Job 38:31-32
"1The heavens declare the glory of God, and the sky displays what his hands have made. 2One day tells a story to the next. One night shares knowledge with the next 3without talking, without words, without their voices being heard. 4[Yet,] their sound has gone out into the entire world, their message to the ends of the earth. He has set up a tent in the heavens for the sun," Psalm 19:1-4Astrology101: There are twelve zodiac signs on the astrological wheel, but they divide further into four different groups. First, there are Water Signs which are Cancer, Scorpio, and Pisces... There are Earth Signs which are Taurus, Virgo, and Capricorn and the Air Signs are Gemini, Libra, and Aquarius. [img] https://s8/images/sky_year_zodiac.jpg[/img] Astrology101: Firstly, You Need Your Exact Time Of Birth For An Accurate Chart
You will need to check your birth records to know the precise time you entered the world. Only then will you be able to correctly pin down your various signs.
This is really important if you want to know who you really are and your purpose in this world. [img] https://s8/images/MuttleyLaffKnowYourAstro.png[/img] Astrology101: You Have Way More Than One Sign Zodiac Signs
What you probably assume is your only sign, based only on your date of birth, is actually your sun sign. But there are several others, including ones for each planet and 12 different “house cusps,” all of which you will discover once a chart has been made for you.
The three biggest ones used while interpreting how they represent your personality are the aforementioned sun sign, the rising (also know as “ascendant” and “first house cusp”) sign, and the moon sign.
For example, I thought I was just an Aquarius but it turns out that Aquarius is actually my sun sign, with another Scorpio for my rising sign, and Leo as my moon sign. I guess I know why I can be so awkward and overly friendly with that Aquarius and Scorpio Rising, I am more of an ambivert being! Those signs are two different temperament; one moment I am very social, the next moment I want my privacy badly. "He got rid of the pagan priests whom the kings of Judah had appointed to sacrifice at the illegal places of worship in the cities of Judah and all around Jerusalem. They had been sacrificing to Baal, the sun god, the moon god, the zodiac, and the entire army of heaven." - 2 Kings 23:5
Brother, I am not trying to behave like a jerk nor do I mean to piss on your parade, but here's my free of charge, piece of brotherly advice to you, you are better off steering towards astronomy and stay well clear off astrology. My two denarii |
Career › Re: Naptu2: Why Nigerians Need To Stop Attacking Firefighters by MuttleyLaff: 5:03am On Sep 05, 2020 |
PeachtreeReside: Bravo!
Interesting and very educative.
Public enlightenment is needed for ALL CITIZENS.
The ones purchasing equipments, maintaining it and the citizens that think it's best to cause harm to fire fighters forgetting that our carelessness causes fire outbreak.
I heard of some who collect the pay of the fire fighters as per they are the ones who recruited them and pay them meagre sums.
May sense and conscience return to our leaders. naptu2: Amen! Every nation gets the leaders/government it deserves.
The so called leaders, who actually are looters and rulers, didnt drop from tree tops. They come from our communities, villages, towns, cities, states, from us. So appropriately, may sense and conscience return to each one of us. Let us woke. |
Career › Re: Naptu2: Why Nigerians Need To Stop Attacking Firefighters by MuttleyLaff: 4:58am On Sep 05, 2020 |
naptu2: Yes, to combat small fires and to contain large fires before the arrival of the big fire trucks. Also to advance warn the oncoming fire trucks of potential hold ups ahead and provide alternate quicker routes or give diverting instructions on how to quickly get to affected place et cetera |
Career › Re: Naptu2: Why Nigerians Need To Stop Attacking Firefighters by MuttleyLaff: 4:55am On Sep 05, 2020 |
naptu2: I was really hopeful when the Babaginda Administration bought those BMW motorcycles. Some fire services use motorcycles to beat the traffic and attend to fires in places that are otherwise innaccessible. The motorcycles do not have to have water tanks because there are fire hydrants around. They simply connect their hoses to the hydrants.
Unfortunately I never saw those few motorcycles being used to fight fires. The motorcycles would have been used to combat small fires anyway (e.g. car fires, et cetera) and not infernos at high rises, industrial estates et cetera |
Career › Re: Naptu2: Why Nigerians Need To Stop Attacking Firefighters by MuttleyLaff: 4:47am On Sep 05, 2020 |
tiger28: As Quoted here," fire hydrants were installed during the COLONIAL era". I Strongly believe that Nigeria and Africa will be BETTER OFF if we give it back to the Colonialists. The way the Black man has treated his fella Black man and how he has avariciously Taken over his Govt treasury is pathetic! You can NEVER hear of an African resigning out of conscience or governing for one term then stepping down except Mandela. The Black is his OWN ENEMY! SLAP44: So?. Fart?  |
Career › Re: Naptu2: Why Nigerians Need To Stop Attacking Firefighters by MuttleyLaff: 4:37am On Sep 05, 2020 |
Well done Sir naptu2 Very informative, very factual and very sending a loud and clear message. Hmm I wish more can find their voice(s) in social justice, as you've very well demonstrated with this thread. Imagine, at a period of time, there were no snorkels, and yet, you have the cheek to go erect high-rise building Union Bank get sense sha. It is well |
Christianity Etc › Re: We Don't Beg Like Other Organisations, However We Need Your Money by MuttleyLaff: 6:50pm On Sep 04, 2020 |
What sorrow awaits you teachers of religious law and you Pharisees. Hypocrites! For you are like whitewashed tombs—beautiful on the outside but filled on the inside with dead people’s bones and all sorts of impurity - Matthew 23:27 |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Most Mysterious Doctrine - The Trinity of The Godhead by MuttleyLaff: 6:35pm On Sep 04, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff: My dear Sir, with the utmost respect, you are just obfuscating a very simple, penny plain explanation, but its all good, its alright, as I have a few easy, direct, simple, innocent, harmless, straightforward questions to ask you
Watch this Dtruth\speaker,for the sake of this discussion, imagine you had supernatural abilities, that makes it possible for you to project yourself, outwards from your body into a different place and time. You are still the same with the projection, lets call it "son" and call you the "father".
1/ Whose bidding, respectfully, do you think "son" will be doing? 2/ Is "son" not you, the "father"? 3/ Is "son" not distinct from you, the "father"? 4/ Is "son" and you the "father" not the same person known as Dtruth\speaker? 5/ Does "son" not see you the "father" Dtruth\speaker, do good things? 6/ Does "son" not have the same power as you, the "father" Dtruth\speaker? 7/ Did "son" not come from you, the "father" Dtruth\speaker? 8/ Is "son" not equal to the "father" Dtruth\speaker, yet not clinging to that status, so to fulfil all righteousness in that way, hmm? 9/ Would "son," being you the "father" Dtruth\speaker, have the ability and power to see into humans' heart, know their thoughts, tell what they're thinking, or what they desire, just like you the "father" Dtruth\speaker have that ability to do, hmm? In other words, similar from 1 Samuel 9:19 and 1 Samuel 10:19&26. 10/ Who really, in this scenario, is the "son"?
I look forward to you addressing the questions directly and/or head-on |