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Sunnycliff:
Africans and Superstition

It's embarrassing to say the least.
Coronavirus has humbled all religions.
None saw it coming but they're all claiming to have the solution, yet coronavirus is still trending.

hupernikao:
You didn't get my earlier explanation.

John did knew Jesus as his cousin. Sure, they had that relationship as cousins and they both knew.

By the virtue of this, when you now read John saying, I KNEW HIM NOT, you should then know he wouldnt have been refering to their family relationship.

You must observe John's choice of words all through.

Note 1: 20 And he confessed, and denied not; but confessed, I am not the Christ. He called him Christ, that is the focus of the discussion. Christ (Messiah). He never knew him as the Messiah until baptism.

Note 2: 25 And they asked him, and said unto him, Why baptizest thou then, if thou be not that Christ, nor Elias, neither that prophet? The focus.

Note 3:. 29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.[/i]

[b]That is what he never knew before until Jesus' baptism. You dont know the Lamb of God by earthly relationship.


See his explanation below.

31 And I knew him not: but that he should be made manifest to Israel, therefore am I come baptizing with water.

32 And John bare record, saying, I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and it abode upon him.

33 And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost.

Key facts:

verse 31, the essence of John's baptism is to make him know, to make manifest to Israel the Messiah. No one who who he was aside being Jesus son of Joseph, the carpenter son.

verse 32, evidence that John's revelation of Christ is divine. Observe how he narrate it in next verse.

verse 33, Observe:

1. I knew him not
2. John baptism was for a key purpose to look out for this: whom the Spirit descend and remaining....

This is a sign that has never been seen or experienced before, that is why is a key sign for John. The Spirit never descend and remained on anyone before then. It descend and go afterwards, But for he to be the Messiah God's direction to John is that such man will receive the Spirit and will remain on him.

This is what John never knew. He would have played with Jesus growing up, eat together, but he was never knew as the Messiah until this sign is seen with Him.

Remember John's contemplation when taken by Herod:

Matt 13:2-3
2 Now when John had heard in the prison the works of Christ, he sent two of his disciples,
3 And said unto him, Art thou he that should come, or do we look for another?

Notice, he said, Are you the one to come? That is what he never knew before but revealed at his baptism, THE ONE TO COME, THE MESSIAH. that cant be known by the flesh.

Remember Peter's experience

Matt 16:13-17
13 When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am?

Peter knew Jesus, but that was not what Jesus was asking them. He was asking of his divine status. THE CHRIST, THE SON OF THE LIVING GOD.

16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

Flesh and blood cannot know him but by revelation. Hence John's baptism is very key in God' plan for revealing Christ to Israel. The Messiah.

There's no explaining it away sir.

The bible erred. Having mentioned that Mary and Elizabeth were relatives, they goofed by portraying their children as strangers, that's grown Jesus and John.

There's no form of familiarity, relationship or endearment between the two in all the passages about them.

Maximus69:
Hmmmmmmmm,

Now you've exposed yourself as a raw illiterate!

Please travel to advanced countries and visit their hospitals, then inquire of the merits and demerits of blood transfusion.

When you return don't tell us what you learn please go and school other novice like you about the menace of blood transfusion!

For your information blood transfusion is the last type of treatment a professional health workers will opt for, because the World Health Organization (W.H.O) have not approved blood transfusion as a safe means of treatment, it's just an experiment that was tested. Today there are so many alternative means of bloodless treatment.

Blood Transfusion!

Sorry try to update your info, it's outdated in most advanced countries of the world today!

So death is a better option? Mr literati, Keep killing your wives not my problem. No be she blindly go marry JW member?

Oyiboman69:
The time ashawo get good opportunity don pass.now people don too many for the market both small small girls... I strongly reject that your conclusion

But that is the fact. QED
Even most pastors are now forcing their singles to just marry one another because it is too shameful to their church and to God. Yet they no dey gree marry one another for the same church because their single guys are mostly broke because God has not yet picked up their call.

How can these unbelievers be prospering and believers are not prospering... God whyy

Janosky:
According to hupernikao's claim:
Bros Myer, Please ask hupernikao where is Jesus divinity revealed in Jesus baptism?
And where is Jesus Christ divinity in John 1:34?
He done quote John 1:34 and he is inserting his own divinity theory into it.

Lol he has spiritual eyes so only he can see it. The rest of us need eye salve.

TATIME:
Simply quote, "you don't want to here any original worship, everything must be fake so as to free your conscience from any religious principles as a freethinker (atheist)!

Do you know how much damage your org has done to some of your gullible members?
Because of your upside down interpretations of the bible, women die during child birth because their religious husbands won't accept blood transfusion.
I can't even imagine why govt still allows such husbands not to be jailed.
So thanks but you and Maximus69 can keep your religious principles to yourselves.

hupernikao:
You just said both his mother (Elizabeth) and Mary not him. Secondly, even Mary with all the clues given to her about Jesus mission couldn't comprehend it all. She has to learn over time, who and what he represent and follow with all simplicity and honesty.

Ok let's assume John never knew Jesus as the Messiah, you mean John never knew his own cousin?
Any way, no matter how much evidence is laid before your eyes, you clearly don't want to see any error in the bible.

Maximus69:
I have told you the truth, if they're not JWs don't think it's just a matter of choice.

THEY ARE NOT WORSHIPERS OF OUR OWN GOD!
THEY ARE NOT CHRISTIANS!

So if you have a problem in sorting out the original in the midst of fake and you don't appreciate assistance in doing so, that's your cup of coffee!

But you're just as fake.

hupernikao:
Like i told you, John has a trademark theology and you will see it in all its writings. For example aside Hebrews writer (once), only John repeatedly refer to Jesus as the Word. That is his Theology. Every writer has a way of presenting their theology. You must study writers to know how they write.

The reality is there are things John felt may not be necessary as details. So, cutting them out wont change anything.

Secondly, i only picked this as an example from all listed on the site because i wont be the one to be explaining those stuff to him. Ordinarily ready in context of Chapter, the book and at most the Bible, all what he called contradictions will be cleared. But what i am saying is, he should do research well before writing or misleading else he will be found either dishonest or unintelligent.

And by the way, i am not abusing the blogger, i am only describing his attitude to this discussion.


And as per this that you wrote:

I never knew him will not be referring to him earthly birth or family but referring to HE who will baptize with the holy Ghost.

John 1
33 And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost.

This is very key in identifying the Messiah. Remember the birth of Jesus as divine was never disclosed by (Mary/Joseph). So, he was known as Jesus, son of Joseph. John the baptist is who God gave the responsibility and ministry to seek and identify the Christ. The reason he came baptizing.

John 1
31 And I knew him not: but that he should be made manifest to Israel, therefore am I come baptizing with water.

So, he knew Jesus in the flesh but was referring to his divinity as His baptism revealed him as the son of God, the Christ. That is what John is referring to.

John 1
34 And I saw, and bare record that this is the Son of God.

That would seem dishonest. Since he knew his purpose in life was to prepare the way for the Messiah. And both his mother Elizabeth and Mary knew that Jesus was the Messiah.

MuttleyLaff:
You do know that it's every man for himself and nothing about what leaders said or did not say, hmm?

Last I checked, the Bible is not in a secret vault or under lock and key somewhere. Everyone who is anyone, has access to the Bible, to whittle out any charade, lol, à la berean, lol.

Kolewerk, its not going to work, lol. There wont be any excuse for allowing anyone to pull wool over your eyes, lol. Its just yourself, who's to blame for not knowing..

The miracles performed by Jesus, just as Maximus69 has advanced were for a particular purpose and peculiar set of people. Of course, miracles ever since did continue from then to date, even until tomorrow. Miracles, did not end in Old Testament, didn't end in New Testament and certainly hasnt suddenly end in our present testament.

So it's no longer what the bible teaches but how we choose to interprete it?
No wonder Christians are the most confused and gullible set of people. Any pastor/leader will just wake up and twist the bible saying God told him this and that, and suddenly you have another rhema. Lol

Like you said, everyone with his beliefs.
If it's working for you, good luck but if you're dying in silence because you know it's not working and unable to speak up because you don't want to disappoint your "papa and mama" in the lord, then you of all people are the most miserable.

hupernikao:
Like I said, sincerity is key in both trying to expose lies or defending the truth. Else we won't see how blinded we are ourselves.

If a man feels there are lies in the scriptures he should go ahead and explain line by line why he feels so, not lifting text like a clown. He should read well to be aware to justify his point from all angles. In most cases, you will find where you are wrong and that the scriptures is always true.

I hope you will read all the above though, because I am sure the writer on that site you pointed me hardly give attention to reading or studying "long" explanation. He should be ashamed of himself.

Good. By inference we know John baptised him.
But the book of John leaves out something as significant as his 40 days temptation in the wilderness?
If you notice Luke's account actually points out that Jesus and John the baptist were cousins. Yet in the book of John, he claim never to have known Jesus.

By the way, that's only 1 out of how many contradictions?

Calling the blogger names is really unnecessary, even theologians and bible scholars know there are errors in the accounts of the bible, which they attribute to different perspectives of the different writers.

There's no gain denying the obvious. The contradictions are numerous.

Maximus69:
Because Churchgoers teach themselves man-made doctrines not God's word!

Jesus and his followers performed those miracles for a purpose, and that purpose has been fulfilled.

The miracles were signs to help the Israelites know that a new covenant has been sealed that's why Jesus told a gentile woman that the miracles were primarily meant for the Israelites! Matthew 15:26

Peter reminded the Israelites when the sign came to help them realize that a new covenant has just been sealed! Act 2:14-21
Paul explained that the miraculous signs will be short-lived when Christianity (the complete pure worship has been fully established) 1Corinthians 13:8-10
Jesus said in the final days false prophets will be here performing signs but their own miracles will be purposeless! Matthew 24:11-14 compare to Revelations 16:14

So Jehovah did not live us in the dark, but if these false Christians feels what i'm saying now is not so, let them go now and heal Covid19 patients, of course they will perform tricks to entertain lovers of magic but all their miracles will be purposeless!

Don't you find it convenient that your leaders found a way of proving that the miracles that make the gospel believable, ended when it's your turn for a miracle?

It did not end in old testament, didn't end in new testament but suddenly ends in your present testament.
How do you even keep this charade on?

Okeytus:
ohamadike, honest people don't die easily,

I think you mean the good die young but wcked people don't die easily.
Technically he must be wicked.

Maximus69:
Why only Maximus69?

Well i don't do blogging things because Satan has dispatched many agents into the world, to contradict God's word.

If you don't believe (trust) God or his word, that's your own portion not mine. God has told me that many people will actually come and have access to his words due to his kindness towards all, but since Satan has his agents (working directly while some are also working indirectly) who can't grasp the sacred secrets, they will be saying twisted thing. Act 20:30
The sign God promised to give us is that his own people will understand his words and make the best use of it to benefit themselves. Isaiah 48:17-18

So what do you expect from those who don't understand God's word and are not humble enough to learn from God's servants, of course they will say it's contradicting!

It's not about the blogger but the content. There are many other sites that have reearched the bible errors but this was more detailed.

okomile:
Madness

But so many African cultures were very unintelligent and backward before civilisation.

Maximus69:
Why only Maximus69?

Well i don't do blogging things because Satan has dispatched many agents into the world, to contradict God's word.

If you don't believe (trust) God or his word, that's your own portion not mine. God has told me that many people will actually come and have access to his words due to his kindness towards all, but since Satan has his agents (working directly while some are also working indirectly) who can't grasp the sacred secrets, they will be saying twisted thing. Act 20:30
The sign God promised to give us is that his own people will understand his words and make the best use of it to benefit themselves. Isaiah 48:17-18

So what do you expect from those who don't understand God's word and are not humble enough to learn from God's servants, of course they will say it's contradicting!

I copied you because of our discussion so far borders on the Bible's self-contradictions which the blog points out. As this is also what this thread has proven.

By the way, why do JW believe the miracles in the bible but don't believe miracles are possible in our present time?

hupernikao:
I hardly bother myself with external links especially when the one pointing me to it have not given me enough explanation of facts. But I decided to view your link.

Unfortunately for the writer there, he displayed both lack of fundamental intelligence in literacy and honesty as an individual.

I have seen far more intelligent arguments in this line before but the writer there doesn't fit into the kindergarten club of such intelligence.

You see, like I told you before. When someone is lying or being dishonest in arguments just because you don't believe in another persons view will present such fellow as unintelligent. I shouldn't twist a literature just to suit my defence. Such arguments won't stand among the intellectuals.

For example: I have clarified to you when you raised same issue of seeing God or not seeing God raised also on that site, and there was no rebuttal from you.

Imagine taking text out of its context of explanation, is that not a low blow, even a primary school student know that you don't lift and read just a single line in a letter and start shouting hurray.

In summary, I couldn't find any intelligence in that site. The writer is just being childish in arguments.

I guess we can say intelligence is relative. Believers believe everyone that doesn't share their religious belief is unintelligent no matter how knowledgeable they are. Afterall the bible has conveniently selected the foolish and lowly of the world to be believers and the wise to be unbelievers. 1 Cor 1:27

I understand you completely.

hupernikao:
The seemingly contradiction in interpretation of the scriptures doesnt change the divinity of its inspiration.

Seemingly contradiction in interpretation is not peculiar to the scriptures, it is general issue in any literature read in the absence of its author.

Man always have opinions in all interpretation just like interpreting the constitution or in a law court. While some seek the real intent behind the writings some want to make gain or derail others from finding its original intent. In all, God's inspired purpose are revealed when you seek for it without selfish desires.

The difference in interpretation is human, I get that. But I wasn't referring to that alone. But that the bible itself contradicts itself. Except you claim that not all scriptures is inspired by God which would also contradict 2 Timothy 3:16 and 2 Peter 1:21

This blog does more justice than I can start to list. The blogger went the extra mile to list the contradictory verses too.
Take your time to confirm the quoted scriptures.

Cc Maximus69

https://mobile.ghanaweb.com/GhanaHomePage/NewsArchive/50-000-Errors-and-Biblical-contradictions-190303

AFRlCA:
We don't trust both the Nigeria Military and Boko Haram.

Prophet Muhammad brought terrorism to the world in the name of religion

How can a muslim president fight boko haram that is the evangelistic arm of islam?
They're simply winning more territories for allah.

TATIME:
Argue wetin again?

Abeg Mr Myer

You don win the case, God win~Korede Bello

I don't argue blindly like religiously people do. I highlight the facts like i just did.
If you like wise don't just swallow hook line and sinker what you're taught but study the bible yourself you will see the many errors.

Maximus69:
Jesus said God's word "Bible" is the TRUTH! John 17:17
Here you're saying what Jesus referred to as TRUTH is contradicting, yet you're still trying to argue that the same Jesus is God Almighty shey?
So you believe that God Almighty is deluded abi?

You don't have a problem Sir!

I'm just simply pointing to the many errors. And if you have any idea with integrity test is, you will admit to the the contradictions.

That's not even supposed to be up for argument.

Adakintroy2:
This too cannot go except by fast and prayers. We may not be able to fast for ourselves against the wrong spirit.

Greed, lust envy , pride, e.t.c.

But as we starve of material things those spirit are weaken. If you notice this period most wrong spirit in you are dieing.

They are not feeding. Feeding them means giving to there hunger. We have been to weak to resist there wants.

But thank God for this quarantine. I hardly go a day or two without sex. Even though it has a toll on my finance and proper planning.

I need to be out there to compete to be proud. I need to be out there to be near certain kind of women to be lustfull. E t.c.

This quarantine itself is a fasting. That is starving me of freedom. I had abused my freedom before God.


Thank God for this period. Many of us will come out refined and we will revalue our priorities.

Have you not been fasting and praying before why did the pandemic still come claiming the lives of believers and unbelievers alike?

All your fasting and praying, saying God told you things, yet you never knew 2020 would come with coronavirus.

Just be humble and accept that God doesn't tell you anything, you only hear yourself. Just like those who instead of toasting will be forming God told me you're my wife.

This coronavirus has humbled religion, especially Christians who always claim to hear God and have all the answers. FOH.

Maximus69:
Oh bro Tatime, why not ask about Islam and Muslims [the religion Myer said had the most accurate account "Qur'an"]?

If you've read the synopic gospels you would have seen the many errors in the bible. How they not only conflicted but contradicted each other. The genealogy of Jesus, the selection of the 12 disciples, the number of people who visited the tomb, the ressurection, the many other errors.

Acts of Apostles also gives a different account of the conversion of Paul from the way he ecplaied it in Romans to Agrippa.

While the Quran has its own errors, atleast it was more careful than the bible which os why they argue less than Christians. The bible leaves too many rooms for conflicting translations and interpretations.
Even the process of conversion is an argument.
Some claim you have to confess your sins before putting your faith in Jesus, some say you just have to believe and confess Jesus as your lord and saviors. Others say you don't have any part to play in it since you did not play any part in Adam's sin so like wise just believe in the finished work of Christ.

About eternal salvation, that's another ambiguity.
About whether Jesus is God or the Son of God we see another ambiguity just as this thread has exposed.

The difference between us is simple. You don't want to admit to the contradictions in the bible because you have been indoctrinated that your life depends on it being God's word and so it just has to be true no matter how glaringly the errors stare at you.

You're no different from a woman in an abusive relationship who will keep making up excuses for her batterer until he finally kills her.

Do you still want to argue which is more accurate?

TATIME:
At least he is able to discern that the fruit is what Paul listed in the Bible book of Galatians 5:22-23
And he is able to apply it to what he is seeing amongst Jehovah's Witnesses!
I think that's commendable!

I think you need a remedial to understand anything.
It's not about knowing and quoting the scriptures, if you don't manifest it, you have nothing. Same way it's not about pastors preaching miracles, if they can't perform it, they have nothing.

The only fruit JW members bear is their ability to drink beer to a stupor, their unforgiveness to offenses, ability to hold grudges and keep malice, laziness, gluttony, stubborness, lack of team spirit, unbending to authorities, stinginess, argumentative, insultive, the list goes on.
The only reason you go for evangelism is to fulfil righteousness not because you have any love for souls.

There's no fruit of the spirit in you. That's why it's head knowledge you have and that has puffed you up like the pharisees.

Staro:
And Buhari's stupid foolish ZOMBIES do not still realise the dangerous precedence their useless nepotistic president
is sowing for Nigeria.

Because you are president, you corner the entire National budget to your region ... what else
is the definition of Abuse of Office ? Where is federal character ?

Nigerians in Lagos and Abuja are crying of biting hunger but Zamfara State where the minister, Sadiya Farouq comes from
is the second highest beneficiary even though the state is yet to record a single confirmed case of COVID 19.

See ehn, the entire Southern Nigeria are a bunch of fools because I can't imagine the deft silence among
southern leaders
.

They sent you to achool to get educated but instead you werr busy getting high through school. Nw see your life?

The post clearly states that Katsina disbursement has been fully concluded meaning other states are still in progress.
But how do you think explain that to a Biafran with nothing but hatrrd for Hausas?

Maximus69:
Jesus is a perfect teacher even if i claim he's our leader you will start arguing, but can you just point to a portion of the Bible where the followers of Christ agree to learn anything from other groups claiming worshipers of the same God?
Yet Pharisees, Saddusees, Scribes, Priests and other Jewish religionists always go after the Christians to learn from them despite claiming they're worshipers of the same God.
Well perhaps you don't understand, we are the true Christians and based on what we know, there is no friendship between light and darkness, so there is nothing to learn from Christendom Churches!

But you can convince us by producing the fruit of God's holy spirit, if Jehovah's Witnesses observe the fine works in your midst, we will consider learning from you, apart from that we don't deal with groups of no practical benefits!

What do you know about the fruit of the spirit?
You think it's by head knowledge?

One thing i can assure you is that you like the pharisees have studied the bible, but instead of it to make you humble it made you proud, made you self-righteous. Made you full of hatred for everyone that's not a JW like you.

I can imagine how years of indoctrination has done this to you. It has truly blinded you. You're no different from an extremist muslim. I guess we should thank God JW recruited you before ISIS.

Maximus69:
There are many persons speaking in the Bible book of Revelations!
©Jehovah the Almighty God.
©Jesus the son of God.
©The angel sent to the congregations.
©The 144,000.
©The 24 elders.
©Apostle John himself.
But if the reader doesn't have God's holy spirit, he can't grasp whose voice is this or that. Daniel 12:10
The only way to identify those who understand this sacred secrets as in those who can tell you whose statement you're reading, God's word said "they will perform well in all that is expected of God's people" Daniel 12:3 compare to Matthew 5:14-16; 7:15-20

You are very evasive when you see you see a scripture that punctures your argument.
You managed to answer some question but a oided the ones that point to the fact that Jesus is God.
You are full already, you can't learn anymore.
Yet it's the poor in spirit Jesus called blessed for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

You JW always want others to learn from you but don't want to learn from others. You know how to share publications but won't collect from other denomiations. You are the modern day pharisees and saducees. You're clearly not disciples of Christ. And that's not an insult but a statement of fact.

dawnomike:
I hope oil will not become $1 dollar let barrel before this pandemic ends

And as ay today some people still believe this pandemic is fake that govt is just using Covid-19 to amass wealth. Govt is losing just as every other sector and individual is losing. Why would they fake Covid-19?

merit455:
Oworonshoki Is Currently Boiling

Please we need police attention in Oworonshoki area of Lagos

Men who claims to be one million boys are currently raiding and terrorising shop,homes.
I couldn't take pictures because my sister wouldn't allowed me move out.

Edited

Youths in Oworonshoki just chased Them Notorious One million boys gang out of Oworo

Stand by for Further Information.#Lagos #Oworo #Oworoshoki #Oworonshoki #Covid19 #Community #OworoTv pic.twitter.com/PMvyyASj2k

— Oworonshoki (@OworoTv) April 20, 2020

Can these 1 million boys let the govt know their motive. Initially some claimed it was hunger but at least with the rate at which palliatives are being shared, it's may not be hunger after all.

Are they just trying to terrorise nigerians? Even in the face of the hardship people are already goig through?

And someone expects us to plead on their behalf when jungle justice is being meted on them?

Akunwafor:
Wait first, is it oxygen masks these guys have been calling ventilators?

Doctors in the house am I missing something?

Yes na.lol
But it either generates or purifies the oxygen too.

Adakintroy2:
Christians be careful about threads such as this that pitch you against one another in knowledge.

Timothy 1-11, warns against going into endless genonologies. Things the new age teachers do that lead to more disputes. They wish to be seen as teachers.

Jesus is part of the trinity". . Jesus is not part of the trinity".. Jesus is mechizedek ..no he us not.

Greek origin of word...rhema and all other needless pursuit that do not promotes chrsit.


Christ is an humble spirit he is not particular about praise or you exaltations. He himself said not all who call me lord lord will enter my kingdom bit those who do God will. (Demonstration of love)

Knowledge puffs up but love purifies.

These are the days if his spirit. Go out and manifest it. Love and giving.

Does your bible include where Jesus Christ argued with the pharisees who questioned him?
Does it also include where Paul argued in several of his missions to preach the gospel? He even got beaten up occasionally?

But clearly you must know better than they did.
Argument is inevitable as discussion go.

ubeedominic:
Truth is You can never Hide something forever.

Abba Kyari, the late chief of staff to President Muhammadu Buhari,
was 67 years old when he died last night, PREMIUM TIMES can now
authoritatively report.
Mr Kyari was born on September 23, 1952, according to official
records obtained by PREMIUM TIMES. The records have not been
publicly disclosed until now.
Mr Kyari died on Friday night in Lagos, becoming the most senior
Nigerian government official and public figure to fall victim to
coronavirus. The presidency announced his death shortly after
midnight on Saturday.
His body was moved to Abuja on Saturday morning and subsequently
interred at the military cemetery in the Gudu neighbourhood of the
capital.
Although he had served as the chief of staff since 2015, and
was believed to be the president’s most powerful aide, little was known
about his age and date of birth.
That led many media outlets to estimate his age, putting it at between
60s and 70s, and even 80s. While PREMIUM TIMES indicated in its
first reporting of his death that Mr Kyari’s age was unknown, Reuters
said he was in his 70s.
Some local broadcast stations like the AIT said Mr Kyari was born in
1938, an estimate that echoed the Wikipedia’s entry that said he was
81.
The social media was also locked in fierce arguments about Mr Kyari’s
age.
But information obtained by PREMIUM TIMES from multiple records
showed that Mr Kyari was born on September 23, 1952, a Tuesday.

SHOCKINGLY, THIS MAN SPENT THE WHOLE OF HIS LIFE ENJOYING ANOTHER MAN'S Country, LEAVING NIGERIA'S PROBLEM BEHIND.

He had his early and secondary education in Nigeria and obtained at
least two degrees in England. First, he obtained a Bachelor’s degree at
the University of Warwick in early 1980s before proceeding to the
University of Cambridge for his Master’s degree in law. He was called
to the Nigerian bar in the mid-1980s.

Indeed, throughout his five-year streak as Mr Buhari’s chief of staff, Mr Kyari did not
receive birthday wishes that inundate administrative officials and politicians of his status.
Also, the press statements announcing his appointment in 2015 and his reappointment in
2019 did not also indicate his date of birth or age.

For some reason Buhari felt the need to address his age controversy in his condolence letter claiming he's 67 years.
Clearly when there's this much controversy about a person's age, there has been some augmenting.