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Simplyleo:
Seems these boko boys are already feeling the heat.

Pls, buratai should remain there and round of the good job. Continue shelling them bastards until they completely surrender. That is war of attrition.

No be 9ja we dey wey govt say dem do neutralize Boko Haram since Buhari first term?

At least we all saw the video of the Chadian President and his soldiers defeating BH, but Burutai own na Audio.

Only when foreign press confirms that 9ja has defeated BH before it can be believable.

hupernikao:
I guess you are now reading or seeing what you want to see. Funny enough, you all eisegesis also have verses used to defend it.

John/Jesus wasn't presented as strangers, you read than in yourself. An example of a perfect eisegesis.

Who is making up eisegesis between you and I?
I bet most Christians don't even know that John and Jesus were related.
This isn't even some thing to argue about.

Maybe you can share a verse that portrays they were related other than where Luke called Mary and Elizabeth relatives.

Hi

Lukgaf:
Praise be to Allah.

Firstly:

We have previously discussed what the Muslim should do during this time.

Secondly:

We have previously explained the types of martyrs and the definition of a martyr (see our previous posts).

Whoever dies because of the coronavirus, there is the hope that he will attain martyrdom in two ways:

-1-

If the coronavirus (Covid-19) causes damage to a person’s lungs, and that is the cause of his death, then there is the hope that he will be a martyr (shaheed), because he comes under the same heading as one who dies of tuberculosis, and in fact this is a worse disease, because tuberculosis causes small lesions or nodules (tubercles) in the lungs. The Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: “Tuberculosis is martyrdom.” Narrated by at-Tabaraani from Salmaan, and by Abu’sh-Shaykh from ‘Ubaadah; classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Jaami‘. It was also attributed to Ahmad, from the hadith of Raashid ibn Hubaysh, as noted by al-Haafiz in al-Fath.

Al-Haafiz said: There is corroborating evidence in the hadith of Raashid ibn Hubaysh, in which it mentions tuberculosis.

End quote from Fath al-Baari (6/43).

The hadith of Raashid ibn Hubaysh which was narrated by Ahmad (15998) says that the Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) came to visit ‘Ubaadah ibn as-Saamit when he was sick. The Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: “Do you know who among my ummah is a martyr (shaheed)?” The people fell silent, and ‘Ubaadah said: Sit me up. So they sat him up, then he said: O Messenger of Allah, the one who is patient and seeks reward with Allah.

The Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: “In that case, the martyrs among my ummah would be few. Rather being killed in Allah’s cause is martyrdom; dying of the plague is martyrdom; drowning is martyrdom; dying of a stomach disease [batn] is martyrdom; and if a woman dies in childbirth, her child will pull her with his umbilical cord to Paradise.” He said: And Abu’l-‘Awwaam, the custodian of Bayt al-Maqdis, added: “and being burned to death, and as-sayl [flash flood].”

Al-Minnaawi (may Allah have mercy on him) said: As-sayl [flash flood] refers to drowning in water. This is how the author defined it in his handwriting, which I have seen with my own eyes. What appears in many manuscripts, suggesting that it is as-sill (tuberculosis) is a mistake on the part of the scribes.

End quote from Fayd al-Qadeer (4/533).

The annotators of al-Musnad (25/380) said: With regard to the word as-sayl, this is how it appears in all copies, and in Ghaayat al-Maqsad, and it refers to drowning. But in al-Fath (6/43), al-Haafiz wrote it as as-sill (tuberculosis), referring to the well-known sickness. Perhaps at that time it was included with those who died of the plague. End quote.

And we have seen above the hadith which says “Tuberculosis is martyrdom.”

Al-Minnaawi said in Fayd al-Qadeer (4/145): “Tuberculosis is martyrdom” – this refers to the nodules in the lungs, accompanied by severe fever.

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If the sickness leads to damage of the liver or kidney, and the person dies as a result of that, then he is described as mabtoon (one who dies of a stomach disease). The Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: “The martyrs are five: the one who dies of the plague, the one who dies of a stomach disease, the one who drowns, the one who is crushed beneath a falling wall, and the martyr who is killed for the sake of Allah.”

An-Nawawi (may Allah have mercy on him) said in Sharh Muslim: As for the mabtoon, who is the one who dies of a stomach disease, that refers to diarrhoea. Al-Qaadi said: And it was said that it refers to the one who suffers from oedema (swelling) and whose stomach becomes swollen; or to the one who has a stomach complaint; or the one who dies of any stomach disease in general. End quote.

Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen (may Allah have mercy on him) was asked: In the hadith it says that the mabtoon (the one who dies of a stomach disease) is a martyr. What is meant by mabtoon, and does it include one who dies of cirrhosis of the liver?

He replied: The scholars said that the mabtoon is the one who dies of a stomach disease, and what appears to be the case is that it also includes the one who dies of appendicitis, because the appendix is regarded as connected to the stomach. That may also include the one who dies of cirrhosis of the liver, because the liver is also regarded as connected to the stomach. End quote.

Conclusion: For the one who dies of this virus, there is the hope that he will attain martyrdom.

We should point out that this does not come under the same heading as the plague, as has been explained previously.

We ask Allah to relieve us of this calamity and pandemic, and to grant well-being to us and to all the Muslims.

And Allah knows best.

https://islamqa.info/en/answers/334078/is-the-one-who-dies-of-the-coronavirus-covid-19-a-martyr

Are you really this daft or you're just pretending?

Even if a book tells you someone was a martyr because he died of tuberculosis are you not supposed to either correct the writer of the book or discard the book by virtue of your common sense and education?
Even if you flunked your way through school at least you should have a dictionary that tells you who a martyr is.

You don't become a martyr because you died of an incurable disease, you become a martyr by dying for your belief.
So death by Coronavirus doesn't make you a martyr. Problem solved.

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/martyr

Mightymanna:
When you try confused religions with so many contradictions like 3 in 1 one god, you will reached this conclusion. But no sane person has ever tried Islam and left, Islam is the true religion of God despite all the blackmails many people are trooping daily to accept Islam, with only one follower 1500 years back today we have 1.5 billions followers and it is just the beginning.

Then why did boko haram murder Hauwa Liman, the health aid thag was with Leah Sharibu? Why does ISIS execute and slaughter Murtads?

It's funny you're excited "many people are trooping daily to accept islam" yet Muhammed commands you to kill when the reverse is the case and your members troop to accept another religion. You call them Murtad and even call it treason so that you can feel justified to take innocent people's lives just because of their human right of choice of belief!

I didn't want to comment but it was necessary to correct your religious hypocrisy.

wahoom:
Dream is glimpse into happenings in the spiritual realm.

Dreams can come from 3 different sources;

1. Man
2.Demons
3.God.

Most times when you forget your dreams, it's a ploy from the enemies to make you ignorant of what is happening in the spiritual world.
It is the spiritual world that controls the physical, there's nothing that happens in the physical that is not concluded 8n the spiritual.

There are some people that are summoned to meetings and they go and commit havocs unconsciously and come back without even knowing they are witches, so sometimes, the devil steals our dream so we would not be privy to what is happening.

I have a friend that used to see herself swimming in a river, she thought it was normal until she eventually realised she belongs to the marine world after some years.

It's not normal to forget your dream.

Pray against dream thieves and also write your dreams anytime you wake up even at midnight.

I used to have that same issue too, so what I did was, once I wake I type the dream on my fone and save it.

Guess what Bro, I found out that nothing happens without me having an idea.
Most of my dream is like a prophecy and helps to guide me in some of the steps I take daily.

This is the same bullshit you guys keep recycling.
I'm sure you dreamt you'll be stuck home for a month now.
While you're at it can you tell us from your prophetic dreams when the lockdown will be over?

By the way, if you keep it up, you just might be the next GO of another mega church/business.

Sallasreal:
I think you to pray well about it and if you wanna sleep at night take a water in bucket and put some salt inside and use it and key see what happened then OK God will set us free from evildoers

Which book of your bible or quran recommends this?
Or you're a christian on sunday but a traditinalist when confronted with real problems?

mabeni:
Is it natural forgetting ones dream(s) before day breaks? I am in my early 30s.

I can't sleep without dreaming either good or bad but it baffles me why I can't or won't be able to remember anything from the dream when I wake up.

Don't let anyone scare you about not remembering your dreams.

It simply means the dreams were not significant.
If it's a dream about Dangote giving you money or you dream of Rihanna giving you a head till you nut I'm sure you'll remember.

Always remember most opinions here are from Nigerians. And we all know our background has bleeped up our mindset. We're hopelessly too superstitious.
Then our problem really escalated when the churches mistakingly converted native doctors into pastors. Imagine the hybrid of our warped traditional superstition combined with religion.
That's what gave birth to most of the comments here.

They claim they remember their dreams and "control the physical from the spiritual, yet see their lives

Sunnycliff:
Africans and Superstition

It's embarrassing to say the least.
Coronavirus has humbled all religions.
None saw it coming but they're all claiming to have the solution, yet coronavirus is still trending.

hupernikao:
You didn't get my earlier explanation.

John did knew Jesus as his cousin. Sure, they had that relationship as cousins and they both knew.

By the virtue of this, when you now read John saying, I KNEW HIM NOT, you should then know he wouldnt have been refering to their family relationship.

You must observe John's choice of words all through.

Note 1: 20 And he confessed, and denied not; but confessed, I am not the Christ. He called him Christ, that is the focus of the discussion. Christ (Messiah). He never knew him as the Messiah until baptism.

Note 2: 25 And they asked him, and said unto him, Why baptizest thou then, if thou be not that Christ, nor Elias, neither that prophet? The focus.

Note 3:. 29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.[/i]

[b]That is what he never knew before until Jesus' baptism. You dont know the Lamb of God by earthly relationship.


See his explanation below.

31 And I knew him not: but that he should be made manifest to Israel, therefore am I come baptizing with water.

32 And John bare record, saying, I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and it abode upon him.

33 And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost.

Key facts:

verse 31, the essence of John's baptism is to make him know, to make manifest to Israel the Messiah. No one who who he was aside being Jesus son of Joseph, the carpenter son.

verse 32, evidence that John's revelation of Christ is divine. Observe how he narrate it in next verse.

verse 33, Observe:

1. I knew him not
2. John baptism was for a key purpose to look out for this: whom the Spirit descend and remaining....

This is a sign that has never been seen or experienced before, that is why is a key sign for John. The Spirit never descend and remained on anyone before then. It descend and go afterwards, But for he to be the Messiah God's direction to John is that such man will receive the Spirit and will remain on him.

This is what John never knew. He would have played with Jesus growing up, eat together, but he was never knew as the Messiah until this sign is seen with Him.

Remember John's contemplation when taken by Herod:

Matt 13:2-3
2 Now when John had heard in the prison the works of Christ, he sent two of his disciples,
3 And said unto him, Art thou he that should come, or do we look for another?

Notice, he said, Are you the one to come? That is what he never knew before but revealed at his baptism, THE ONE TO COME, THE MESSIAH. that cant be known by the flesh.

Remember Peter's experience

Matt 16:13-17
13 When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am?

Peter knew Jesus, but that was not what Jesus was asking them. He was asking of his divine status. THE CHRIST, THE SON OF THE LIVING GOD.

16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

Flesh and blood cannot know him but by revelation. Hence John's baptism is very key in God' plan for revealing Christ to Israel. The Messiah.

There's no explaining it away sir.

The bible erred. Having mentioned that Mary and Elizabeth were relatives, they goofed by portraying their children as strangers, that's grown Jesus and John.

There's no form of familiarity, relationship or endearment between the two in all the passages about them.

Maximus69:
Hmmmmmmmm,

Now you've exposed yourself as a raw illiterate!

Please travel to advanced countries and visit their hospitals, then inquire of the merits and demerits of blood transfusion.

When you return don't tell us what you learn please go and school other novice like you about the menace of blood transfusion!

For your information blood transfusion is the last type of treatment a professional health workers will opt for, because the World Health Organization (W.H.O) have not approved blood transfusion as a safe means of treatment, it's just an experiment that was tested. Today there are so many alternative means of bloodless treatment.

Blood Transfusion!

Sorry try to update your info, it's outdated in most advanced countries of the world today!

So death is a better option? Mr literati, Keep killing your wives not my problem. No be she blindly go marry JW member?

Oyiboman69:
The time ashawo get good opportunity don pass.now people don too many for the market both small small girls... I strongly reject that your conclusion

But that is the fact. QED
Even most pastors are now forcing their singles to just marry one another because it is too shameful to their church and to God. Yet they no dey gree marry one another for the same church because their single guys are mostly broke because God has not yet picked up their call.

How can these unbelievers be prospering and believers are not prospering... God whyy

Janosky:
According to hupernikao's claim:
Bros Myer, Please ask hupernikao where is Jesus divinity revealed in Jesus baptism?
And where is Jesus Christ divinity in John 1:34?
He done quote John 1:34 and he is inserting his own divinity theory into it.

Lol he has spiritual eyes so only he can see it. The rest of us need eye salve.

TATIME:
Simply quote, "you don't want to here any original worship, everything must be fake so as to free your conscience from any religious principles as a freethinker (atheist)!

Do you know how much damage your org has done to some of your gullible members?
Because of your upside down interpretations of the bible, women die during child birth because their religious husbands won't accept blood transfusion.
I can't even imagine why govt still allows such husbands not to be jailed.
So thanks but you and Maximus69 can keep your religious principles to yourselves.

hupernikao:
You just said both his mother (Elizabeth) and Mary not him. Secondly, even Mary with all the clues given to her about Jesus mission couldn't comprehend it all. She has to learn over time, who and what he represent and follow with all simplicity and honesty.

Ok let's assume John never knew Jesus as the Messiah, you mean John never knew his own cousin?
Any way, no matter how much evidence is laid before your eyes, you clearly don't want to see any error in the bible.

Maximus69:
I have told you the truth, if they're not JWs don't think it's just a matter of choice.

THEY ARE NOT WORSHIPERS OF OUR OWN GOD!
THEY ARE NOT CHRISTIANS!

So if you have a problem in sorting out the original in the midst of fake and you don't appreciate assistance in doing so, that's your cup of coffee!

But you're just as fake.

hupernikao:
Like i told you, John has a trademark theology and you will see it in all its writings. For example aside Hebrews writer (once), only John repeatedly refer to Jesus as the Word. That is his Theology. Every writer has a way of presenting their theology. You must study writers to know how they write.

The reality is there are things John felt may not be necessary as details. So, cutting them out wont change anything.

Secondly, i only picked this as an example from all listed on the site because i wont be the one to be explaining those stuff to him. Ordinarily ready in context of Chapter, the book and at most the Bible, all what he called contradictions will be cleared. But what i am saying is, he should do research well before writing or misleading else he will be found either dishonest or unintelligent.

And by the way, i am not abusing the blogger, i am only describing his attitude to this discussion.


And as per this that you wrote:

I never knew him will not be referring to him earthly birth or family but referring to HE who will baptize with the holy Ghost.

John 1
33 And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost.

This is very key in identifying the Messiah. Remember the birth of Jesus as divine was never disclosed by (Mary/Joseph). So, he was known as Jesus, son of Joseph. John the baptist is who God gave the responsibility and ministry to seek and identify the Christ. The reason he came baptizing.

John 1
31 And I knew him not: but that he should be made manifest to Israel, therefore am I come baptizing with water.

So, he knew Jesus in the flesh but was referring to his divinity as His baptism revealed him as the son of God, the Christ. That is what John is referring to.

John 1
34 And I saw, and bare record that this is the Son of God.

That would seem dishonest. Since he knew his purpose in life was to prepare the way for the Messiah. And both his mother Elizabeth and Mary knew that Jesus was the Messiah.

MuttleyLaff:
You do know that it's every man for himself and nothing about what leaders said or did not say, hmm?

Last I checked, the Bible is not in a secret vault or under lock and key somewhere. Everyone who is anyone, has access to the Bible, to whittle out any charade, lol, à la berean, lol.

Kolewerk, its not going to work, lol. There wont be any excuse for allowing anyone to pull wool over your eyes, lol. Its just yourself, who's to blame for not knowing..

The miracles performed by Jesus, just as Maximus69 has advanced were for a particular purpose and peculiar set of people. Of course, miracles ever since did continue from then to date, even until tomorrow. Miracles, did not end in Old Testament, didn't end in New Testament and certainly hasnt suddenly end in our present testament.

So it's no longer what the bible teaches but how we choose to interprete it?
No wonder Christians are the most confused and gullible set of people. Any pastor/leader will just wake up and twist the bible saying God told him this and that, and suddenly you have another rhema. Lol

Like you said, everyone with his beliefs.
If it's working for you, good luck but if you're dying in silence because you know it's not working and unable to speak up because you don't want to disappoint your "papa and mama" in the lord, then you of all people are the most miserable.

hupernikao:
Like I said, sincerity is key in both trying to expose lies or defending the truth. Else we won't see how blinded we are ourselves.

If a man feels there are lies in the scriptures he should go ahead and explain line by line why he feels so, not lifting text like a clown. He should read well to be aware to justify his point from all angles. In most cases, you will find where you are wrong and that the scriptures is always true.

I hope you will read all the above though, because I am sure the writer on that site you pointed me hardly give attention to reading or studying "long" explanation. He should be ashamed of himself.

Good. By inference we know John baptised him.
But the book of John leaves out something as significant as his 40 days temptation in the wilderness?
If you notice Luke's account actually points out that Jesus and John the baptist were cousins. Yet in the book of John, he claim never to have known Jesus.

By the way, that's only 1 out of how many contradictions?

Calling the blogger names is really unnecessary, even theologians and bible scholars know there are errors in the accounts of the bible, which they attribute to different perspectives of the different writers.

There's no gain denying the obvious. The contradictions are numerous.

Maximus69:
Because Churchgoers teach themselves man-made doctrines not God's word!

Jesus and his followers performed those miracles for a purpose, and that purpose has been fulfilled.

The miracles were signs to help the Israelites know that a new covenant has been sealed that's why Jesus told a gentile woman that the miracles were primarily meant for the Israelites! Matthew 15:26

Peter reminded the Israelites when the sign came to help them realize that a new covenant has just been sealed! Act 2:14-21
Paul explained that the miraculous signs will be short-lived when Christianity (the complete pure worship has been fully established) 1Corinthians 13:8-10
Jesus said in the final days false prophets will be here performing signs but their own miracles will be purposeless! Matthew 24:11-14 compare to Revelations 16:14

So Jehovah did not live us in the dark, but if these false Christians feels what i'm saying now is not so, let them go now and heal Covid19 patients, of course they will perform tricks to entertain lovers of magic but all their miracles will be purposeless!

Don't you find it convenient that your leaders found a way of proving that the miracles that make the gospel believable, ended when it's your turn for a miracle?

It did not end in old testament, didn't end in new testament but suddenly ends in your present testament.
How do you even keep this charade on?

Okeytus:
ohamadike, honest people don't die easily,

I think you mean the good die young but wcked people don't die easily.
Technically he must be wicked.

Maximus69:
Why only Maximus69?

Well i don't do blogging things because Satan has dispatched many agents into the world, to contradict God's word.

If you don't believe (trust) God or his word, that's your own portion not mine. God has told me that many people will actually come and have access to his words due to his kindness towards all, but since Satan has his agents (working directly while some are also working indirectly) who can't grasp the sacred secrets, they will be saying twisted thing. Act 20:30
The sign God promised to give us is that his own people will understand his words and make the best use of it to benefit themselves. Isaiah 48:17-18

So what do you expect from those who don't understand God's word and are not humble enough to learn from God's servants, of course they will say it's contradicting!

It's not about the blogger but the content. There are many other sites that have reearched the bible errors but this was more detailed.

okomile:
Madness

But so many African cultures were very unintelligent and backward before civilisation.

Maximus69:
Why only Maximus69?

Well i don't do blogging things because Satan has dispatched many agents into the world, to contradict God's word.

If you don't believe (trust) God or his word, that's your own portion not mine. God has told me that many people will actually come and have access to his words due to his kindness towards all, but since Satan has his agents (working directly while some are also working indirectly) who can't grasp the sacred secrets, they will be saying twisted thing. Act 20:30
The sign God promised to give us is that his own people will understand his words and make the best use of it to benefit themselves. Isaiah 48:17-18

So what do you expect from those who don't understand God's word and are not humble enough to learn from God's servants, of course they will say it's contradicting!

I copied you because of our discussion so far borders on the Bible's self-contradictions which the blog points out. As this is also what this thread has proven.

By the way, why do JW believe the miracles in the bible but don't believe miracles are possible in our present time?

hupernikao:
I hardly bother myself with external links especially when the one pointing me to it have not given me enough explanation of facts. But I decided to view your link.

Unfortunately for the writer there, he displayed both lack of fundamental intelligence in literacy and honesty as an individual.

I have seen far more intelligent arguments in this line before but the writer there doesn't fit into the kindergarten club of such intelligence.

You see, like I told you before. When someone is lying or being dishonest in arguments just because you don't believe in another persons view will present such fellow as unintelligent. I shouldn't twist a literature just to suit my defence. Such arguments won't stand among the intellectuals.

For example: I have clarified to you when you raised same issue of seeing God or not seeing God raised also on that site, and there was no rebuttal from you.

Imagine taking text out of its context of explanation, is that not a low blow, even a primary school student know that you don't lift and read just a single line in a letter and start shouting hurray.

In summary, I couldn't find any intelligence in that site. The writer is just being childish in arguments.

I guess we can say intelligence is relative. Believers believe everyone that doesn't share their religious belief is unintelligent no matter how knowledgeable they are. Afterall the bible has conveniently selected the foolish and lowly of the world to be believers and the wise to be unbelievers. 1 Cor 1:27

I understand you completely.

hupernikao:
The seemingly contradiction in interpretation of the scriptures doesnt change the divinity of its inspiration.

Seemingly contradiction in interpretation is not peculiar to the scriptures, it is general issue in any literature read in the absence of its author.

Man always have opinions in all interpretation just like interpreting the constitution or in a law court. While some seek the real intent behind the writings some want to make gain or derail others from finding its original intent. In all, God's inspired purpose are revealed when you seek for it without selfish desires.

The difference in interpretation is human, I get that. But I wasn't referring to that alone. But that the bible itself contradicts itself. Except you claim that not all scriptures is inspired by God which would also contradict 2 Timothy 3:16 and 2 Peter 1:21

This blog does more justice than I can start to list. The blogger went the extra mile to list the contradictory verses too.
Take your time to confirm the quoted scriptures.

Cc Maximus69

https://mobile.ghanaweb.com/GhanaHomePage/NewsArchive/50-000-Errors-and-Biblical-contradictions-190303

AFRlCA:
We don't trust both the Nigeria Military and Boko Haram.

Prophet Muhammad brought terrorism to the world in the name of religion

How can a muslim president fight boko haram that is the evangelistic arm of islam?
They're simply winning more territories for allah.

TATIME:
Argue wetin again?

Abeg Mr Myer

You don win the case, God win~Korede Bello

I don't argue blindly like religiously people do. I highlight the facts like i just did.
If you like wise don't just swallow hook line and sinker what you're taught but study the bible yourself you will see the many errors.

Maximus69:
Jesus said God's word "Bible" is the TRUTH! John 17:17
Here you're saying what Jesus referred to as TRUTH is contradicting, yet you're still trying to argue that the same Jesus is God Almighty shey?
So you believe that God Almighty is deluded abi?

You don't have a problem Sir!

I'm just simply pointing to the many errors. And if you have any idea with integrity test is, you will admit to the the contradictions.

That's not even supposed to be up for argument.

Adakintroy2:
This too cannot go except by fast and prayers. We may not be able to fast for ourselves against the wrong spirit.

Greed, lust envy , pride, e.t.c.

But as we starve of material things those spirit are weaken. If you notice this period most wrong spirit in you are dieing.

They are not feeding. Feeding them means giving to there hunger. We have been to weak to resist there wants.

But thank God for this quarantine. I hardly go a day or two without sex. Even though it has a toll on my finance and proper planning.

I need to be out there to compete to be proud. I need to be out there to be near certain kind of women to be lustfull. E t.c.

This quarantine itself is a fasting. That is starving me of freedom. I had abused my freedom before God.


Thank God for this period. Many of us will come out refined and we will revalue our priorities.

Have you not been fasting and praying before why did the pandemic still come claiming the lives of believers and unbelievers alike?

All your fasting and praying, saying God told you things, yet you never knew 2020 would come with coronavirus.

Just be humble and accept that God doesn't tell you anything, you only hear yourself. Just like those who instead of toasting will be forming God told me you're my wife.

This coronavirus has humbled religion, especially Christians who always claim to hear God and have all the answers. FOH.

Maximus69:
Oh bro Tatime, why not ask about Islam and Muslims [the religion Myer said had the most accurate account "Qur'an"]?

If you've read the synopic gospels you would have seen the many errors in the bible. How they not only conflicted but contradicted each other. The genealogy of Jesus, the selection of the 12 disciples, the number of people who visited the tomb, the ressurection, the many other errors.

Acts of Apostles also gives a different account of the conversion of Paul from the way he ecplaied it in Romans to Agrippa.

While the Quran has its own errors, atleast it was more careful than the bible which os why they argue less than Christians. The bible leaves too many rooms for conflicting translations and interpretations.
Even the process of conversion is an argument.
Some claim you have to confess your sins before putting your faith in Jesus, some say you just have to believe and confess Jesus as your lord and saviors. Others say you don't have any part to play in it since you did not play any part in Adam's sin so like wise just believe in the finished work of Christ.

About eternal salvation, that's another ambiguity.
About whether Jesus is God or the Son of God we see another ambiguity just as this thread has exposed.

The difference between us is simple. You don't want to admit to the contradictions in the bible because you have been indoctrinated that your life depends on it being God's word and so it just has to be true no matter how glaringly the errors stare at you.

You're no different from a woman in an abusive relationship who will keep making up excuses for her batterer until he finally kills her.

Do you still want to argue which is more accurate?

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At least he is able to discern that the fruit is what Paul listed in the Bible book of Galatians 5:22-23
And he is able to apply it to what he is seeing amongst Jehovah's Witnesses!
I think that's commendable!

I think you need a remedial to understand anything.
It's not about knowing and quoting the scriptures, if you don't manifest it, you have nothing. Same way it's not about pastors preaching miracles, if they can't perform it, they have nothing.

The only fruit JW members bear is their ability to drink beer to a stupor, their unforgiveness to offenses, ability to hold grudges and keep malice, laziness, gluttony, stubborness, lack of team spirit, unbending to authorities, stinginess, argumentative, insultive, the list goes on.
The only reason you go for evangelism is to fulfil righteousness not because you have any love for souls.

There's no fruit of the spirit in you. That's why it's head knowledge you have and that has puffed you up like the pharisees.