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Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 6:06am On Jul 13, 2021
Beframia:
I remember there was a lengthy discussion on these sometimes this year:

https://guardian.ng/property/builders-contractors-jostle-for-ready-mix-concrete-as-cement-price-rises/
It’s not a cheaper alternative. Though faster.

Except you’re buying from reputable coys, I’ll still place caveat on this for now.
Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 10:41pm On Jul 12, 2021
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Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 12:46pm On Jul 12, 2021
folmus:
Sincerely, not the one you know with brother and sister.

This is strictly 2 bedroom only.
Ok. Same approach work.


It is universally accepted construction standard for kobocitizen self builders and those who want to do cool stuffs without blowing budget. grin grin
Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 12:11pm On Jul 12, 2021
folmus:
2 bedroom nko? Asking for a friend nio? wink wink cheesy
2 bedroom that has brother and sister, right? grin grin

Same approach works.

Get few planks and tell the carpenter to do the job in phases. (eg. external beams and window lintels first; columns and balcony beams second; internal beams and doors last).

Why? You may want to ask.

The external walls/beams will use the most number of planks. You'd hardly require more than 5 - 7 planks to prepare your 9in lintel soffits. More of the planks will be used for the sides which can be removed 24 hours after casting to do other parts of the building.

Your columns and balcony/terrace beams should be done after you've completed all the external beams and window lintels because your internal beams and door lintels will require a lot of wood cutting which might render your wood useless when you want to do your frontyard/porch columns and arcs if there's any.

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As for iron rods, pls kindly tell your friend to try and get the best bargain as prices of iron rods aren't smiling now.

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Give out the concrete and the carpentry work as a contract (one-off payment). Don't try daily pay thing, you'd end up paying more than necessary and the job might extend more than you planned.



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Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 11:04am On Jul 12, 2021
130m depth huh

32m cement grouting

Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 10:51am On Jul 12, 2021
Dijita:
Please guys kindly help me examine this quotation for the painting of my bungalow:
the painting is for:
---outside the house
---2 living rooms. the quote for one of the living room is different as we are using stucco effect painting
---4 bedrooms
---Dining room
---the hallway
---verandah
Just get an option quote from another painter. @gbadexy can do this.

The figure is just doing me one kind and I’m like “Did I spend this much to paint even a 5 bed duplex including fence?”
Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 10:05am On Jul 12, 2021
somehow:
Let me say this, they take a long time before the allocate
Also takes time with series of rules before you are allowed to build.
They also try to frustrate you building independently.


Let me stop there. The reputation on paper is kind of different from when you become committed financially.
Is it up to one year?

I worked on a project in 2014. A plot of land was sold N45m inside the estate. Getting planning permission took almost 2 years but it is one of the most secured estate in Lagos today with zero report of structural failure or security breach.

To give you an hint sir, the project was designed by one of the best contemporary architects in Africa (in the class of David Adjaye) but since it did not meet the estate standards, we just had to comply or take the project to another estate where anything is allowed.

At a point my client almost gave up on the build but we pressed on until every requirements are completely satisfied and we got the approval to move to site.

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That an estate allocate instantly and do client's bidding every time they complain doesn't make them reputable. Even to put tenants in your own house that you use your own money to build in this estate is harder than taking up a job in most companies in Lagos. The tenants must submit their CVs and you as the landlord can't take a dime until the estate has interviewed and cleared the potential tenant.

That's standard!
Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 8:45am On Jul 12, 2021
Nosa111:
Good morning everyone


Will 500k be enough to set a lintel for a 3bedroom flat and 2room self contain apartment? Both the cost of rod and wood inclusive. huh
It should be enough.

Just tell the engineer/carpenter to buy 30 planks and transfer after use to other areas to be covered. The job should be completed within a week.
Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 8:35am On Jul 12, 2021
Folorunsho15:
You guys share kobo and naira on the group? cool
grin grin

We share more than naira and kobo on the platform. Kobocitizens no dey get wahala because we simplify complexities and deliver possibilities. grin

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Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 7:10am On Jul 12, 2021
Folorunsho15:
Thanks my Oga, this man gave me the confidence and the tools to negotiate with and the price range that's reasonable for both parties, I presented it and the guy didn't haggle much and we agreed. Respect sir cheesy cheesy
Glad to be of help cool

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At kobocity, we help you understand how to negotiate and set a realistic budget before you start your project to avoid costs from spiralling.

Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 6:02am On Jul 12, 2021
diordaves:
What if at the end of the day you are not happy with the cost structure of the approved contractor, what next? You forfeit the land? Do you have a choice or a voice in this matter?
They have a listening ear na.

While we were here speculating and presuming, negotiations was been carried out and my Oga don get over 12.5% off in a WIN/win deal.

Both the client/contractor are happy.
Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 5:55am On Jul 12, 2021
somehow:
Why are your lands expensive with so many hidden charges apart from the dev, and survey fees?
Better soup, na money kill am.

Trust me sir.

Adron’s reputation precedes them. I’ve been in this game for a while and I can tell you Adron is kinda different from the rest of the pack.

As a matter of fact, Adron is one the best in the affordable housing market. I’m not talking about those estates with big billboards and nothing (I really mean nothing) to show for it!

Infrastructure development is what makes estates thick and they’re doing great in that area. So I don’t see any basis to compare Apple with agbalumo grin
Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 5:08am On Jul 12, 2021
InvertedHammer:
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Why not do a market survey and source for the materials yourself. Then renegotiate his cost of supervision? You don't have to buy all the materials at once.

You may be advised to get a QS, a civil Engineer or one professional or the other and at the end of the day, you will spend a lot of money on professional fees without even a peg on the ground.

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When I saw the bill prepared by the company QS, I couldn’t fault it for the size build even as a builder. The rates, the quantities and the supervision fee is just too reasonable for the size of the build. No ambiguity.

The only area I had issue was with the qty of BRC estimated but on a second look I used almost 1/3 of the quantity in a 115sqm build.

I am very confident he’s getting a good bargain on the project and quality is 100% guaranteed.

I’m not Adron rep neither do I deal with estate coys but I can tell you I really love Adron’s construction model and standards when it comes to construction in Nigeria.
Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 5:19pm On Jul 11, 2021
Jasobry:
13500
Issokay!
Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 4:39pm On Jul 11, 2021
RavagedHeart:
Please, gentlemen in the house. I want to set up a small twin building. I made the design myself.
Now I want some breakdown on how much it would cost to finish this building.
I'd appreciate the quote to be in stages. (like: foundation, decking, block work, etc.)
...and again if there's any fault in my design (as I'm not an architect grin)

First image is the ground floor and the second is the first floor.

@n3xt
@uncleteeh, see the bolded.

Nice try @ravagedheart

I love clients who do what you’re doing. They make the job easier.

Now, let’s make it easier for everyone else. Come up with a brief of what you’re looking for so that the pros in the house can help you out.

I agree you’re not an architect. You’re a bad architect grin grin

Uncleteeh can help you with a very good and detailed drawing.
Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 4:25pm On Jul 11, 2021
Jasobry:
Pic 1 is 5k
Good.
Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 2:06pm On Jul 11, 2021
Jasobry:
ABS is 5k here
How much marine board over there?


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Pic 1 - 7,500
Pic 2 - 5,000
Pic 3 - 4,000

Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 1:54pm On Jul 11, 2021
Folorunsho15:
Thanks a lot my brother, appreciate all the help bro
Glad I could be of help. Don’t sleep on it.

Fire on sir grin

There’s no time to look time.

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Tell your man to get his iron rods as quick as possible. Every other thing won’t be an issue for you in IB.
Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 1:18pm On Jul 11, 2021
Muyi002:
Ilorin.

Please how true, someone wants to brig abs from the east at a price of 4700
From East to West is now cheaper than West to West.

#InsideLife
Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 10:53am On Jul 11, 2021
Folorunsho15:
The latter is not true sir grin grin
Make friend with him. Wishing you goodluck on your project.
Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 10:51am On Jul 11, 2021
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Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 10:31am On Jul 11, 2021
bolu1986:
Thanks my oga pricing start from 5k per sqm but it’s also depend on volume and designs
Thanks. Be like I wan play small.
Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m):
Folorunsho15:
Thank you my man, I'm getting the much needed help on this forum and I appreciate and yes he's a contractor for a big estate coy. I'm getting all the necessary tools though to try and beat down the price to a reasonable level
As in big contractor working for a big man inside a big estate... grin

Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 7:21am On Jul 11, 2021
bolu1986:
Happy sunday we are still here for your pop wall screeding and tv wall designs


https://www.nairaland.com/6564561/pop-design-tv-wall-installation/11#103583760
Your work is neat. Well done!

Always endeavour to put your rate per/sqm. You never can tell who might be interested.
Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 5:07am On Jul 11, 2021
Dijita:
Hello my good people.
I have seen some imported/ready made furniture showroom on nairaland but I am currently unable to locate any of the links.
Anyone with those link can reply with the link thanks
Considering your project location, Ikota Shopping Complex might be your best place to shop for options if you’re looking for what you see is that you get.

Get someone to visit the complex and show you what they have. There are over hundred of shops selling great furnitures there.
Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 4:19am On Jul 11, 2021
sonnie10:
How many columns do you think a modest 4 bedroom duplex foundation would have? For those won’t you need the 16mm rod? I would assume it would have up to 20 - 25 columns.
Modest 4 Bedroom Duplex would do fine with 24 columns.

With 24 columns, you’d only require 16 lengths of 16mm iron rod to produce a 2m length starter column required in foundation.

It could be more depending on the height of your foundation.

With 30 columns, you’d require 20 lengths of 16mm iron rod to produce a 2m length starter column.

Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m):
Folorunsho15:
Guys egbami o. My contractor just gave me a bill of 4.8m for the foundation stage of a 4 bedroom duplex here in Ibadan. Just foundation stage alone. Does this make sense guys? Is this how expensive things have really become ni? Omo I shock no be small
N4.8m is too much for the foundation of a 4 bedroom duplex but it depends on your foundation design though. I just got out of the foundation of 5 units of 5 bedroom duplex (on 3 levels) with less than 15m for all the foundations using TMT iron rods all through.

Economies of scale and construction efficiency at play here though.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLBgEAA6LYw

https://www.nairaland.com/6576114/construction-journal-nonuplets-nexthome

Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 3:10am On Jul 11, 2021
sonnie10:
Depending on the soil type but a a dry stable land let just throw some figure around till German floor

2500 of 9” blocks at 230 = 575000 (Too much)
160 bag of cement at 3400 =544000
80 pieces of 16mm at 7200 =576000 (For what exactly on a dry and stable land. He does not need up to 30 lengths for foundation work).
100 piece of 12mm at 4400 = 440000 (Fair enough, maybe for DPC but I'd do hardcore and BRC instead)
50 pieces of 8mm at 2200 = 110000 (Again, this is too much. Budget half for the 7 x 7 rings)
60 tons of stone clippings 260k x 2 = 520k
Sharp sand 200k (Too much)
Filling sand 200k
Planks and other wood 200k (For what exactly? 100k will do here.
Binding wire 50k (Now this is too ridiculous! Budget 10k max.)
Bag of nails 30k (Too much! Budget half bag of 3 inches nail and maybe few measures of 4 inches)
Water 30k
Dig foundations 100k
Mason to Set 2400 block = 120000
Iron bender 50k
Carpenter 30k
Other labours 50k
Supervision 300k
Transportation of materials 50k
Total 4,175,000
I recently did N6m+ for foundation of a 5 bedroom (on 3 levels) to First Floor slab in Ibadan. N3.5m should do a foundation in Ibadan without compromises.
Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 9:01pm On Jul 10, 2021
kopell:
Nah so ooo, it’s may take even more then 2 decades. Lekki epe is a good example. But don’t let us lose hope, do you see what is happening in shagamu interchange recently. That country is unpredictable
I strategically pitch my tent here cos I already foresee all these happenings.

More investors are already on that axis.
Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 7:30pm On Jul 10, 2021
kopell:
Hooo the one am referring to is costal Road abi? Where that road will links to then, if at all is still in Lagos state master plan. Any new info in that regard.
Even though I’m working on that axis right now, I’m really not following the coastal road project any longer... but all I can say is the project is in the preliminaries. They’re still dealing with encroachment and realignment.

I hope this get completed in the next 2 decade. The Lekki/Epe expansion that got started almost 2 decades ago is still not completed
Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 5:52pm On Jul 10, 2021
Larwin:
Most people would ve completed building, neglecting the bearing capacity of the soil before carrying out geo-technics. They do this for cover ups, maybe for approval purposes or its on demand.

Some engineers don't even open up fully to the geologist/ geotechnical engineers on the scope of the building, a bid to reduce cost for the investigation and this will definitely reduce the scope of work to be carried out.

These are major issues in Lagos which every builders need to look into in other to reduce settlement or collapse.

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