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StealthyMe:
Thanks...my bad
I thought since twas a school of Agriculture,they wouldnt offer engineering courses

IT is a school of Agriculture because it has special grants to practice agriculture to the core; enough fields,mechanical devices and the lecturers( Prof. Adebambo and co) are something else when it comes to agriculture. Infact, I didn't like taking a stroll with my friends that were studying agriculture cos they will give you a thorough analysis of any tree,leaf , soil we come across. I can beat my chest for any one that studied agric.there.

Sciences and engineering is well practiced too in a very standard way but not all engineering courses are available (no chemical engineering for example) and no medicine and clinical sciences too.

StealthyMe:
Nice point...but its still a probability

And considering the fact that FUNAAB doesnt offer Engineering courses

Funaab offers engineering courses.

Who ever hired this eediot should get him fired. How can there not be at least 5 pictures to back up this claim? This is the most fooolish thread I have read in months.

sangresan:
.....Too many theorems without names.....Hard to cram....You may even understand them(very easy) but to remember them nko....In Mathematics,Real Analysis takes the cake......It is the abstract aspect of Calculus...All the theorems and principles of Calculus are derived from Real Analysis....

Exactly!

Spongia1:
MTS 311
Groups and Rings
Toughest Course ever. Got an E and I gave testimony in churchM it was that serious

Hmmm MTS 311 (Groups and Rings). The cheapest question you can get there is what is a group or what is a ring?and that will take about 9/10 lines to define cos you will state all those 9 yeye axioms and tell them that if it obeys the above, then it is a ring. Kai! And that won't fetch you more than 1/4 mark or even 1/8 in some cases. When we did ours, a very close friend of mine dozed off when he saw the questions; I guess he didn't sleep well prior to the exam and he crash read also, too many proofs to memorise and all.He failed it and lots of people too, I have a way of scrambling for an "E" in those courses cos I will continue writing and joining the bits I know or have an idea of rather than give up and go submit. I know by the time they add 1 mark here, 1/2 mark there, 2 marks there, it will enter 40 sha.

Spongia1:
he's not on sabbatical o. Still destroying lives there

. In Agboola's tiny voice.....You are stewpid okay? You think we are in here for a party? This is Unaab there is not time for jamborees.

jidefrimi:
greatest nacossite
Greatest funaabite!!
Jst abt 2 tak maths method ii.agboola is now on sabbatical leave.

Great! I see@Agboola. Our set won the National computer programming competition for Nigerian universities. Hope you are still flying the flag?

A sadist handled our MATHEMATICAL METHODS II when I was in school. Never smiled in class, taught so passively but tests and exams were hell. We had a lot of things to read up prior to the exam and I didn't even sleep for 2 days before exams. When the question eventually came, come see question! The cheapest thing there was the Green's theorem where you will start with the proofs, the Laplace transform I was banking to have a whole question set on it failed to be so, it was just question (4d) that was set on it. I got an E in that course and about half of the students that took it failed even Engineering students. We staged a protest, saw the VC, the lecturer was called and he was told to upgrade the course with about 5 marks or so, he refused. He said the law states that a course should be upgraded if 50% + failed but just 47%failed his course and he wouldn't upgrade .




Another challenging course was REAL ANALSIS and God be with you if Dr AAA Agboola will take you that course. He is not a sadist(most people think he is though) but believes everyone should be a genius. He seems to like that aspect of maths where most lecturers dread. 90% of his published works are on Groups, rings, hormomophism theorems, real analysis and all other abstract mathematical areas. His questions are not usually easy too. We had a C,2Ds, about 34Es and the remaining ones from 70 of us scored "F". Students gave testimonies for getting an "E" in that course. No be small thing o! We were blessed in terms of lecturers ; we had 2 of the best 20 mathematicians in Africa (Oguntuanse and co).




I can never forget our computer programming courses too, those ones na die. Not until 300 level, we used to write programs on papers . From 300 level, all our programming courses were done straight on the system and right there in the examination hall, you will know if you have failed or passed cos you will run the programs and if none fails to run, na F be that.



#unaab#
#computer science#

olukenzo:
True.

Professor Julius Amioba Okojie of JAO1, JAO2 and 3 fame.

When is JAO4 coming?

Lols. We were part of the first set to launch JAO halls.

Julius Okojie was a former vice chancellor at Unaab. At Unaab, all lecturers are Phd holders, no Msc.

There is a used condom close to the glasses on the bed chamber.

meelorlah:
Integrated mathematics was so dear to me,God bless d guy that authored it.Invincible teacher by Ashade did d magic for me in JAMB's Use of English.

Exactly dear, that guy; Afolabi J.R is something else.

New school physics is sometimes ambiguous and contradictory in explanations

Essential Physics by Farinde is straight to the point and sufficient to get a student at least a B3 in physics


The best thing that has happened to physics is a text book known as " THE SCIENCE PHYSICS " by Afolabi J.R. Any regular ohysics textbook can be combined with it.



The best textbook for further mathematics is still "Further mathematics project 1,2,3". However, I will recommend this two texts again "BASIC FURTHERMATHEMATICS AND SOLVED QUESTIONS" by Afolabi J.R and " INTEGRATED MATHEMATICS" by Afolabi J.R. If you use these textbooks particularly the ones authored by Afolabi J.R and you score less than a B2 in furthermaths O level and less than a 70% in mathematics UME, you need to be flogged.



In our time, the best tutorial centre in Lagos was "Adams Tutors" Oshodi. We had otheers like Davser tutors ( Akinrinmade's lesson). Akinrinmade is arguably one of the best Biology teachers in Lagos state. He is now a VP in one of the Lagos state model schools. We had Expert tutors too and so on.

Valentinooo:
Guys look at this question from one of the aptitude tests too.

If 3x-2y=8, then 4y - 6x is
(a) -16
(b) -8
(c) 8
(d) 16
(e) cannot be determined

In the solution they got -16. I understood how they got it but do you guys think it's the right way to solve it?
If i'm to choose, i will go with (e)

Cc:
Belovedsamex
Kentnickole
eckersley
Naturalwaves
Femi4
Kylekent59
Kingkaspa
Obinoscopy
akalaka1
other mathematicians in d house

Hello bro, I am here o. This should be an easy one. Just assume the value of the equation we do not know to be a constant say "b". Try solving the equations simultaneously, the values of "x" and "Y" will cross out leaving you with only the specific value of "b" .When I solved it, I got "-16". Here is my solution;

Olutola88:
Thank you very much sir for the analysis. We need two or more UBN staff to confirm the figures

Take home after deductions used to be 159k per month. I learnt the salaries have been reviewed to 206k now (before tax), so, after all deductions, it is now 170k+

Access bank 237k per month
Shell Trainee About 667k per month.

Kylekent59:
For no 1

Margin =20%
5$=1kg
6kg= $30
Margin = (selling price - cost price)/selling price
0.2=(s.p-30)/s.p
0.2 s.p - s.p = -30
-0.8 s.p=-30
S.p=$37.5. While cost price =$30
Markup= (s.p/c.p)-1
=(37.5/30) -1
=0.25. Or 25%
Representin. FUTO maths dept 400 level

What margin are you talking about? I see you referring to the 20%. So, you mean, to get a 20% profit from a cost price of 30dolls, you are going to sell at 37.5 dollars? Your solution is wrong sir.

eckersley:
I want believe the text 'giving' is a typo and ought to be spelt as given. That is to say, he was supplied[given] the goods at that price, hence that is the COST price. The next sentence buttresses this point by saying, If he wants to make a profit of 20% NOTE: He hasn't sold the goods yet. Can someone pls explain to me the rationale behind taking the stated sum as the SELLING [and not the COST] price?
I believe if that was the SELLING PRICE, the question would have looked thus: What was mark up on the cost price, if he MADE a profit of 20%? Which is to say he has done the sales already, hence there is a SELLING PRICE. Folks do u see it any other way?

You see what I mean? The question is senseles.
Let me assume your explanation is right and let me solve it that way then;

From the assumed explanation, cost price = 30 dollars. To make a profit of 20%, he will need to sell it at (20/100*30)+ 30 = 36 dollars.
Then this 36 dolls is the selling price as well as the marked price for a 20% profit.

Difference between the MP(SP) and the CP is 36-30 = 6 dolls.

So now, what % of 30 dolls is 6 dolls?

Let the % = X
X/100 * 30 = 6
30x= 600
X=600/30 which still gives us 20%.

I can't believe that a reputable organisation like Chevron will set such a question like no 1 that is so unclear and ambiguous. Based on the question, we do not need the 5 dollars info to solve it except if I don't understand the question. This was what I got anyway;

lovaleenny:
Couldn't find any results on teaching jobs...Thanks dou

Check "hotnigerianjobsdotcom". You should see the advert for lagos state civil service job there. When you click on it, you will see "education officer" as one of the openned vacancies and follow up from there.

aduhube:
Please help the house with the website or any link that may help.

Okay. Here is the link;



http://www./hotjobs/40194/lagos-state-civil-service-commission-job-recruitment-2014.html




If you want to teach, apply under "Education officer"

After the" www .", put "hotnigerianjobs dotcom" before you continue with the remainder of the link. Nairaland is messing up with the full link.

lovaleenny:
How do you get a teaching job....I have always wanted to be a teacher....its rewarding morally now I want to follow my dream

Lagos state government is currently recruiting for educational officers and other positions (it is a massive recruitment). Check online and apply fast because it is closing soon.

Well, I think MIT is the best university in the whole world. MIT is no match for Havard.

Kachisbarbie: I wish I had the time to take it personal...but nahhh - it's not my person. If I wanted to take it personal, I know the perfect way to reply you, that would match your choice of words. Feel free not to edit them, I found it 'disgusting' that you read a whole post of God knows how many characters/words and took out your time to pick out 1 error...'very disgusting' to put it lightly

I get your point, I am sorry dear. I was only trying to put a bit of humour to the debate. These things happen all the time to everyone and nothing can dispute the fact that you are a very sound lady. Afterall, if you check the first line of your teaching experience, you spelt it perfectly. Don't mind me.




P.S: I don't want to edit my own typos because that is what will make it "fun to read" and show that it happens to everyone. #English na awa mama tongue? #

Kachisbarbie: yeayea...all your points count Sir.
Now...clap for yourself, after that learn how to talk/type politely. Your choice of words tells a lot about your person.
-we can't all share same opinion, when someone doesn't agree with yours - please don't get worked up.

@your post
- unskilled and 'inexperienced' not 'inexperience'
-incompetent not 'imcompetent'
-over time not 'overtime'

feel free to say it's a typo

You said you were giving an example of a general subject, lets say I'm not a psychic to read your mind(or I might decide not to get your point) ...maybe you should be specific in future.

No one gets it all right...#ChewOnThat#

Hahahahaha, you are so funny dear. Honestly, you need not take these things personal, they are harmless points and thanks for the corrections. I won't edit the typos

Kachisbarbie: yeayea...all your points count Sir.
Now...clap for yourself, after that learn how to talk/type politely. Your choice of words tells a lot about your person.

I am sorry if you are vexed. The tone of your first reply was filled with insults both to the teachers and students of government schools and to think such points were gathered from a poorly done research based on a few selective samples and even maybe just one on field experience of teaching in a school we don't know the location deserves nothing but a reply in the same tone. Once again, sorry if you are vexed.

Kachisbarbie: very fat lie...I taught in a govt school as a corp member. you say they have up to 10arms? That's if the subject is general, what of electives?

Of course, everyone knows that elective subjects like further mathematics would be taken by a smaller number of students and I expected you to know I was giving an example of a general subject there.


Moreover, if electives are taken by a lower number of students, the number of students that will take such electives in government schools will definitely be far more than the number that will take such in 98% of private schools or are you trying to dispute the fact that the population of public school students is at least times 5 of the average private schools? This your point is off it. Let's see the next one.

Kachisbarbie: I thought acctng...we had 3 accounting arms for each level (ss1-3). My dear, I lost count of how many acct teachers, of which I didn't even know them till the day Ministry of Education came - I was surprised to see over 10teachers telling me and my fellow corp member that we suppose to be reporting to them. These are people we have never seen

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You mistakenly spelt "taught" as "thought". I think you should correct that first.

Kachisbarbie: They don't even set tough questions - I remember setting my exam questions and the principal asked me if I'm sure they can answer this one

If she asks that, it could mean different things. Probably she is not sure enough if you have taught well enough to give the kind of questions you have set.

Kachisbarbie: -I can remember being told to approximate 35 to 40 so the student can @least get an E

This one could happen anywhere and it is a well known fact that private schools do it more.Infact, when students repeat in the public schools, they will go and register in private schools and never repeat because it is almost unheard of. They will push them till final classes where they will be given photocopies of "orijo" to copy and blast external exams.

Kachisbarbie: -I can remember seeing so any exotic cars by 7:45 to sign attendance - by 9am...you can count the no of cars/teachers that would be remaining

The principal of such school is imcompetent and needs to be fired.

Kachisbarbie: In govt schools the student don't even come to school, they don't even like to take their test...
So where would you even see the 700 scripts to mark?
Is it the script that you can mark in 30secs? Because they wouldn't write anything sensible

You wouldn't want to start what you cannot finish. The best scholars have been known to be the product of public schools overtime. It is an insult to say they do not write anything sensible. Moreover, truancy van be played by anyone whether in a government school or private.

Kachisbarbie: In a govt school, you may just have to teach twice in a week(a particular arm/class). The students don't even challenge you, so it's easy for you to enter the class and freestyle. You can't compare it to teaching private students - that keep asking you both the one that is their business and the one that isn't

If they do not challenge you nor ask you questions, then you lack the requisite knowledge and skills to teach effectively, you failed to bring out the curiosity in them and that was why someone suggested that only qualified persons should teach and not crashers. In this case, you have no option as it was NYSC's posting so I won't blame you for being unskilled and inexperience.

Kachisbarbie: By the way private school pass private sch...my secondary sch had 12arms of each class from Jss1 - Ss3 (it was a private sch). Not all private schools are densely populated

I think this statement is bereft of logic. If your so called private secondary school had 12 arms for each of the classes from jss1- ss3, that means it is a big private school and the population of the students is on the high only for you to say again that "not all private schools are densely populated". That does not follow.

Kachisbarbie: I'm not saying all govt. schools are bad - but majority of them are lazy! They don't do anything!

Who are the "them"? This thread is referring to teachers and if it is the teachers in government schools you are referring to, this is not true. Majority of the are not lazy, at least I can speak for lagos state. Teaching is being carried out in a standardized way with the best brains available. I could take you round on an excursion in your free time. The only thing that is needed is just a better conducive working environment and a substantial salary. Again, I ask, where was your NYSC? The scenerios you pasted here are really dusgusting.

Kachisbarbie: very fat lie...I taught in a govt school as a corp member. you say they have up to 10arms? That's if the subject is general, what of electives?
I thought acctng...we had 3 accounting arms for each level (ss1-3). My dear, I lost count of how many acct teachers, of which I didn't even know them till the day Ministry of Education came - I was surprised to see over 10teachers telling me and my fellow corp member that we suppose to be reporting to them. These are people we have never seen. They don't even set tough questions - I remember setting my exam questions and the principal asked me if I'm sure they can answer this one
-I can remember being told to approximate 35 to 40 so the student can @least get an E
-I can remember seeing so any exotic cars by 7:45 to sign attendance - by 9am...you can count the no of cars/teachers that would be remaining.

In govt schools the student don't even come to school, they don't even like to take their test...
So where would you even see the 700 scripts to mark?
Is it the script that you can mark in 30secs? Because they wouldn't write anything sensible

In a govt school, you may just have to teach twice in a week(a particular arm/class). The students don't even challenge you, so it's easy for you to enter the class and freestyle. You can't compare it to teaching private students - that keep asking you both the one that is their business and the one that isn't

By the way private school pass private sch...my secondary sch had 12arms of each class from Jss1 - Ss3 (it was a private sch). Not all private schools are densely populated

I'm not saying all govt. schools are bad - but majority of them are lazy! They don't do anything!

...Well, definitely not in Lagos. Where was your NYSC? Moreover, elective subjects wouldn't be taught to all students (we all know that one) even in private schools. So, that point doesn't count.

Happy birthday dejt4U. I wish you all the best things in life. Thanks to Stennon for remembering your birthday as well. Many more fruitful years ahead in good health and wealth (Amen).* Let me go get my glass of wine *winks*

kelechiMarie: you're so right@op I really pity teachers especially those that teach in private schools[teachers in govt.schools hardly work]they're overworked and underpaid.Imagine someone teaching from 9am-4pm and earns less than twenty thousand and he still has to deal with insolent,lazy and rude students!no wonder they're usually hot-tempered

Let me correct you there, teachers in government schools do a whole lot of work. What do you mean by they hardly work? How many students are in those private schools? How many periods do the teachers have per week? In a government school, a teacher to student ratio can be 1 to 700+. The continuous assessment could be in 4 places, imagine marking 700 scripts in 4 places, that is about 2800 scripts in all. Some of the schools have classes in the range A,B,C,D,E,F,G,H,I,J . Most times, you move from class to class and if care is not taken, you will start feeling dizzy on the fourth class and your voice begins to faint. Resumption time is 7.45 am and close time s around 4pm. So, teachers in government schools do more work than you can ever imagine. Okay?

I have a first hand experience with respect to teaching and here are some of my observations about why teachers are not properly treated;


1) Some teachers suffer from inferiority complex: I believe even if you do not want to do something and you find yourself there by accident or whatsoever, the best thing to do is to take it seriously and not feel bad about what you do while envying those in other professions.




2) Most teachers do not dress well: There is a popular saying that says "the way you dress is the way you will be addressed". The society tends to look down on teachers in this regard. Some male teachers wear over-sized shirts and pants , tuck in and then put on a sandal. How can you put on a sandal on a tucked in shirt? The females do not dress too well too. You will see a bulk of the females with over-due hairstyles, rumbled on the head or just packed anyhow and all.




3)Even though most teachers are educationists, they are not sophisticated in reasoning and behaviour. They don't queue when they are supposed to and like to rush to get things. I was at an event at Alausa and you need to see the way a lot of them were rushing to pick up their meal packs after the seminar, the lines were scattered as if the food was going to finish. I felt so ashamed. Even in speaking, they do not show sophistication, vernacular is the order of the day, you can hardly hear them communicate in English( official language) during work hours except in classes .




4) As for the private schools(not all though) ,most of them are not serious. They usually engage in examination malpractice during external examinations because to them, the main aim of parents that register kids in their schools is to make O levels. They see no reason why they should pay a teacher heavily when they already have a shortcut. So, rather than pay the teacher for the knowledge being dished out, they are paying just for the position of the subject being occupied so that there will be teachers for all the subjects. WAEC and other examination bodies have failed woefully in clamping down examination malpractices as well.

If there are no examination malpractices and other shortcuts, the teachers in these schools will be well paid as the students success will be so dependent on how they teach and the efforts they put in.





5) Government Plays Politics With Education

This is the saddest of all the points, what is termed "free education" is not a good type of education. The kind of education we give our kids is highly substandard, it can best be described as "let my people go education" ,the only standard thing about it is the knowledge of the teachers, there is no how a qualitative education can be totally free considering the population but we just keep on deceiving ourselves.

It is not too bad if public school kids pay 3,000 naira per term, there is power in numbers and on the average, each government school will generate at least 10million naira per annum. With this, government can effectively fund schools and pay the teachers well but the Government dare not do this because, opposing parties will use that against it during electioneering . Government also spends hundreds of millions in registering students for WAEC. All the students took the exams in my school last time but only 5 of them registered for NECO because it was not free. A bulk of the parents are also so irresponsible, they just give birth and pour their kids on the government's neck from primary school to secondary school, even if you ask them to pay 1,000 per term(a term is 3 months), some won't still pay it. So, how will such parents respect teachers? Some do not even sew uniforms for their kids when the one they have is worn out, some do not buy sandals and so on How can they appreciate education and the teachers when it is free.


As a result of this, the students and the teachers are liabilities to the government. The school doesn't generate any fund for the government, so, how can the teachers be well renumerated? Impossible! The staffrooms are not condusive enough, no facilities/ gadgets in most, poor electricity supply and so on. Even if you do not like your job but the work environment is conducive, you will get to settle well with time.
As it stands now, until free education is cancelled, teachers will never be paid well.

Although , teaching is a noble profession, the kind of society we live in looks down on people with a trashy amount as salary. From what I have seen,most teachers save their lives out before they can achieve any meaningful thing in life and they are always paying debts they have to refund through corporatives and all. They say teachers are now using cars and all, you can hardly find a tear rubber car in any of the schools, most of the cars are rickety ones bought with a lot of savings.


Finally, with respect to finances, teaching pays on the long run if you are ready to spend the rest of your life there but as a starter, in the first ten years+, your salary will just be sufficient to eat and do some minor things with no majour savings that can take care of big emergencies. God bless teachers!

dejt4u: *Edited
Nice one onihaxy..you have done well with your highlighted points..

At first, I felt bad when I ws admitted to study education physics but along the line, the interest was just growing at the speed of light..


The grand cause of all these problems is the government atitude towards teaching profession..

Way out;
1. There should be an office of the tutor-general of the federation..and also one for each six geopolitical zones.

2. Teacher salary scale should be reviewed every 5years inorder to give room for improvement nd proper placement

3. Teachers should be more engaged in what they studied.. Imagine someone that study chemistry education now teaching physics nd chemistry in secondary schools..it shldnt be like that

4a. There shld be a professional exam apart from university/college of edu certificate.. This will just complement the degree certificates nd will also serve as teaching licence.. Remember that the mistakes of a teacher can affect many generations whereas that of doctor is jst for that patient life alone.
4b. Teachers Registration Council TRC's certificate should only be given after the professional exam as stated in 4a and not as exam-free as it's bin done. That certificate will serve as the licence to teach in formal institution(i.e schools at all levels)
4c. Every teacher no matter the level of teaching should have this certificate including the university lecturers. Individual with no TRC certificate shld nt be offered the teaching/lecturing jobs.
4d. Pre-requisite to this exam should be a degree certificate in education or a college of education certificate or a post-graduate diploma in education certificate

5. All teachers nd lecturers should possess at least a diploma training in education. Even lectures in engineering, medicine, pharmacy nd law should have at least PGDE certificate.
With this, education profession will not be for all tom, dickk nd Harry

6. Minisitries of Education and National Orientation Agency should deem proper orientation fit for the teenagers and the youths about the importance of education and advantages of being an educationist.

7. Education Research Institutes like NERDC and the rests should be properly funded

8. Adult literacy Education should be well encouraged




with the aforementioned points, If the need is properly done, then we will definitely get to where we are suppose to be in the following respec:
1. Mass failure in schools will be reduced to the minimum
2. There will be respect and security for teaching profession just exactly as we have it in other professions
3. The attitude of youths will be greatly changed for better
4. It will have great impact in the nation development as this will definitly improve the standard of education nd graduates our institutions will be producing

any counter-opinion is welcomed here

Hey bro, nice points you have up there. My own contributions coming soon. When are we having the next mathematics competition?