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RayMcBlue: You couldn't be more wrong. Statistically speaking, there is more probability for short players to go down to flimsy tackles compared to taller ones.

You just validatee my point with the use of the word "flimsy" and what that means is that those you referring to dived for tackles that aren't worth falling for. Morover, my point isn't about statistics, it is about what it is not what is available. When a short player doesn't wanna go down,you can hardly make him go down.

RayMcBlue: Your argument is plausible but very biased. Ronaldo might be faster, able to jump higher and smash the ball harder - but that athletic ability doesn't make him a better footballer than Messi in terms of technical talent.

Lionel Messi's close control, his ability to dribble out of tight situations, his vision, his range of passing, his ability to leave a trail of defenders on their backsides, his finishing from inside and outside the penalty area, his composure, his ability to remain calm under pressure and much more all makes him the best player in world football - and subsequently a better technician than Ronaldo.

@ Paragraph one, if you check my previous analysis, I highlighted that point that Messi does well in confined spaces, he maneuvers better and I also clearly stated that he has more acceleration than Ronaldo while Ronaldo has more velocity.

bustyhelen: Lastly, Benson okonkwo, where ur dik which u said stood up on set? I thought u r dikless o. no bulge upon say u wear pant. mtchewwww

^^^^

So, he should feel less of a man because he is not endowed? ,something he has no control over. I have been trying to find the sense in this your post and can't find any. Keep on looking out for bulges in men's undies. So many many eediots on Nairaland nowadays.

Iamzuna: Now here is your stats... From 2009 till date for Real Madrid, Ronaldo has played 250 games and scored 255 goals..... Messi for Barcelona from 2009 till date has played 266 games and scored 276 goals.

Let's do the maths;

Ronaldo-----255/250= 1.02 goals per match
Messi--------276/266= 1.04 goals per match

Iamzuna: For total career goals, Ronaldo has played for Lisbon, United and Madrid a total of 573 games and scored 378 goals..... Messi in total for Barcelona has played 459 and scored 367 goals.....

Ronaldo-------378/573= 0.66 goals per game
Messi---------367/459= 0.80 goals per game

Iamzuna: So please tell me what stats you are as well talking about and who has a better goal per game ratio

Since there are no half goals or quatre goals. They have both scored an average of one goal per match and that makes it equal . Don't mind me, just joking. Based on the statistics you have provided, Messi has a better goal ratio than Ronaldo. Thanks! I will verify in my free time o.

Iamzuna: Lol.... You are so wrong... Need i remind you that Messi started from the youth team in Barca and graduated to first team. He also had competition from the likes of Eto, Henry, Larsson, Dinho, Guily, Gio Dos Santos (when he was still playing his best football) then and he was most of the time injured. Now if you want to know what i mean, count their goals from when Ronaldo joined Madrid and use that to compare. Ronaldo was in Man United for about 3 Years before he started scoring lots and lots of goals in a season. So if you would want to compare both players based on games then you will have to start from when Ronaldo was in Lisbon (also not forgetting that Ronaldo is older then Messi and must have started his senior career before Messi). But if you want to compare the goals based on games Ronaldo has played in Madrid, then you will have to Start counting Messi's from when Ronaldo Joined Madrid.

As far as I am concerned, Messi has graduated to the Senior Barca team as far as 2005/2006. Those names you mentioned are basically centre forwards and Messi isn't one so, I see no reason why he should be disturbed. Moreover, we can't compare their antecedents ( previous clubs etc) but comparing their stay in La Liga and no of goals scored per match, Ronaldo still has a better goal ratio than Messi.

Iamzuna: All dese analysis na jege jare. If mesef analyze both players based on potentials and ability, then Ronaldo would win by a wide margin but then your ability and potentials cannot make you a better player (ask Totti, Rooney, Cassano) but there is what we call Statistics (sic) and the Stats speaks 4 each player. Now concerning Ronaldo and Messi, if i should be biased then i would say they are equal but the truth is Messi is way ahead of Ronaldo. It was only Ronaldo's last season at United and last season that he was on equal level with injured Messi. And please any1 callin Portugal an average team knows little or notin about football.

Which statistics are you referring to? Messi has spent almost twice the time Ronaldo has spent in La Liga and Ronaldo is almost catching up. If he (Ronaldo) should spend the same time, he will take Messi's numerous goals to the bins.

brainyack: nice1. But come to think of it I don't know if It's becos I don't watch la liga o But I have never see messi head a ball.........and scoring many goals doesn't mean you are a great player. who know half of his career goals may have been from assists and pks Cos messi isn't a football labourer like bale :-D and someone was saying ronaldo is proud It's like u haven't met zlatan

Lol. Micheal Ballack is another pround guy. You can't even touch his head. D guy go para gan.

kendrick93: ronaldo hasn't been a dribbler for years since he left man u. also u are wrong,ronaldo doesn't track back. ryt nw ronaldo might be d beta playa but overall messi beats him

Okay o. What is the "overall" you referring to?

RayMcBlue: Technique

Cristiano Ronaldo:
Cristiano has magnificent tecnhique for a player over 1.85 meters. He loves flicks and tricks and can do basically anything on the book when the ball is on his fee

Messi
Messi just might be the top technician in the world...with everything except his right foot. Other than that, he can control the ball in every situation with every single part of his body.

Winner: Messi
Even with his "one-footedness," Lionel wins this battle because his technique is a little better than Cristiano's.

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How sir? How does this go to Messi? Messi prefers ro do the chip thing one on one when the keeper is out, Ronaldo prefers to round the keeper before putting the ball in the net. From the sides, Messi prefers to curl the ball, ronaldo prefers to use a rocket on the near post. Moreover, Ronaldo's methods of hitting the ball with the in-step particularly during free kicks is unrivalled and that is why some balls pass just above the keeper's head sometimes and yet unstoppable. For every technique Messi has, Ronaldo has it or a substitute. There is no technique Messi as shown that Ronaldo can't match but there are lots of techniques Ronaldo does that beats Messi talking about in-out, ou-in leg overs, passing of the ball with his back and so on.If at all, this is balanced even though Ronaldo seems better, the best you can do for Messi is to leave it balanced. He is not better than Ronaldo with respect to techniques.

RayMcBlue: Loyalty

Cristiano Ronaldo:
Ronaldo has jumped ship for better opportunities. Twice. The only person he's loyal to is named Cristiano Ronaldo.

Lionel Messi:
Messi has had only one club.

Winner: Messi
Easiest one so far.

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You know you so funny. You stylishly turned what was a plus to C.Ronaldo into a negative thing. When it comes into club football, there is nothing like loyalty and that is why contracts are usually signed with certain conditions and if the conditions are met, the player could either leave or decide to stay further if the club wants him to. Players make their decisions based on several reasons. Ronaldo's mum had always wanted him to play at Madrid even when he was a kid.Moreover, Ronaldo is an explorer, he likes challenges and has proved his worth severally at different clubs while your Messi is afraid of the unknown and just wanna stay in his comfort zone all the time. Ronaldo wins!

RayMcBlue: By tackling this topic (yet again), I expect both Messi and Ronaldo fans to disagree with me. But I will try my best to remain objective and to declare a winner for the attributes I have decided to compare them on both physical and technical attributes (shooting, acceleration, strength...) and "intangible" ones (mentality, marketability, ego...). The winner will be determined by points on each category they win:

Strength
Cristiano Ronaldo: Cristiano's 1.85 meters tall and weighs 85 Kg so you would expect him to be a bull physically. But he's not. It might be more mental than anything, but he shies away from contact and prefers to go down rather than physically outshine the opposing defenders. When he wants to though, he can be physical and hold the ball with his back towards goal. He certainly doesn't like it and prefers not to do it, though.

Lionel Messi:
Messi has very good strength for someone that barely crosses 1.70 meters as their height. The Argentinian can shield defenders off the ball and can hold it with his back
towards goal. Anyone that has seen him can also notices he can resist opponents lunges and tackles towards his legs, and he can resist the hardest slides while remaining on his feet.

Winner: Messi
When all those things are taken into account, they're more or less the same physically for their rival's defenses. Messi overperfoms for his short build, and Ronaldo underperforms for his huge one.

I disagree. If you use the principle of physics, Ronaldo falls more often because of his height and that's why sports vehicles are usually closer to the ground. Messi is closer to the ground and so can maneuver better. It is players like Peter Crouch, Nwakwo Kanu and co that will fall so easily. Messi stays more on his feet not because he decides to but his build favours that (that's what I am disagreeing with). If you play football, you will observe that short players are difficult to stop or hack down. Moreover, doesn't it sound funny to say Messi has more strength than Ronaldo? Let's say he does, how about AGRESSION and POWER? Ronaldo flies higher than Messi in these.

RayMcBlue: Sexist remark.

Don't blame me, I have ladies all around me and they don't do football. So, when I see one, I tend to admire.

Mcleo007: No. 7... Check the stats, Messi has scored more goals with his weaker foot (right) than Ronaldo (left).

Scoring goals is not the only function of a weaker foot. Sir, when it comes to the overall usage of both feet, Ronaldo outshines Messi.

Mcleo007: No. 2 is pointless. It's like comparing the fat kid with the slim one, and then go ahead to ask who has more weight. Ronaldo is taller by several inches.

Fatness does not necessarily imply weight. Away from that, it takes more than height to be good aerially. If you watch Ronaldo's nodders, you will see that he quickly rises before every one else and directs the ball while the defenders are just rising. If you check Abedi Pele's nodder against Nigeria( Senegal 92 third place match), he was shorter than all our defenders but he had a better jump power and vertical acceleration than the defenders and before they could say Jack, the ball was in the back of the net.

Mcleo007: No. 5.. You must be very biased to claim both share the spoils on that. Messi controls the better.

Are you kidding me? No bias about this one sir. They are equally good when it comes to ball control and can do do anything with the ball.Infact, when lobg balls are sent, Messi prefers to do the CHEST-LAPS-FOOT kind of control. Ronaldo could just stick out his leg and deadens the ball with just a single touch. They are equally good at this. The ball control of both players is balanced.

Lily4star: mubarakopeyemi(m): 8:35am
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Thanks sweets. I love it when women follow football.

Thanks to Debroslink I love the analysis. Its so on point. And I think I admire lily4star too coz I've known only few ladies who's interested in football and she being one.


Loooool, thanks guys. Una goodmorning and how's ya nights?

Cool bro. Yours?

Lily4star: Nice analyses, no arguments Deary.

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Thanks sweets. I love it when women follow football.

Debroslink: You failed to add the followings:

Okay sir, Let's see......

Debroslink: 9) Dribbles: Both are great dribblers, but Messi has the edge over Ronaldo on this. Messi

Well, the dribbling thing is a bit technical. Because Messi is closer to the ground, gravity works better for him and so can maneuver better in close compact dribbles while Ronaldo is better in open dribbles. Well, Messi wins in this.

Debroslink: 10) Discipline: Messi is more disciplined than Ronaldo in the area of being cautioned. Messi has NEVER received a red card.

Sir, the argument is basically about performance and not attitude but I will still look at this point.Ronaldo has got more yellow cards than Messi too and you know why? Messi hardly attempts to intercept passes or defend. Whenever the ball isn't with him, he just walks or strolls on the pitch while waiting for his team mates to get the ball and give it back to him. So, Ronaldo is better defensively but because, he isn't a professional at that, makes a lot of mistakes with his timing and there is no how you will defend without being carded.So, defensively,...... Ronaldo wins.

Debroslink: 11) Free Kicks: Both are fantastic free kick takers. However, Messi has a better conversion rate than Ronaldo.

Well, in recent times, yes! Overtime, No! I feel this is still balanced.The number of dead balls Ronaldo has converted be it penalties or freekicks is still higher than that of Messi but Messi has had a better conversion rate in recent times and that is why I am leaving this balanced.

Debroslink: Judging by these 11 evaluations, Messi is ahead of Ronaldo.

Judging by the counter points evaluation, I still give it to Ronaldo. The edge he has is a very very minute one though.

They are both excellent but Ronaldo still edges out Messi slightly.

1)Messi has a better acceleration but Ronaldo has a better velocity........Balanced

2) Aerial ability: Ronaldo beats Messi hands down in this regard......Ronaldo wins

3) Shot power: Ronaldo has a better shot power than Messi. He has been known to score several screamers from distance..........Ronaldo wins

4) Accuracy in front of goal: Messi seems to be more accurate in front of goal.........Messi wins.

5) Ball control: They are both masters of this......Balanced.

6)Team play:Messi is better than Ronaldo in this regard...........Messi wins.

7) Foot dexterity: Messi is one legged, Ronaldo can fire canons from both feet.

No of goals: Messi has a higher number of goals than Ronaldo in La Liga based on the number of games he has played but Ronaldo has a better goal ratio.If he plays same game as Messi going at this rate, he will exceed Messi's goals.




I give it to Christiano Ronaldo.

Sweetlemon: The people liking your post are so naive, I'm considering asking Seun to show me their monikers, perhaps I could be able to use their dumbness to make money!

Please who is the fool that will think that a political aspirant will just wake one one early morning and decide to step down from a lucrative post such as that of Governor without some kind of negotiation somewhere? No wonder fraudsters make so much money off Nigerians. So you honestly expect PDP to say in public that this thing is being orchestrated by some godfathers

The people who liked your post will believe anything! That's why I need their contacts. I need money oooooooo




You have said it all!

Quite intelligent! You know the funny thing about all these? Ribadu has been tricked like a phool. They said those that step down now can contest for 2015. It was also stated that the six candidates that will contest now can't contest for 2015 again; they made it look like a favour meanwhile the person that gets in will use "power of incumbency" to oust any candidate like Ribadu eyeing the office and at the end of the day, he will be stranded. I used to think that he (Ribadu) is intelligent not until recently. There has been a lot of adverts and all on Tv (an unnecessary waste of money) because the primaries have not even been conducted so, he should have no business with us (the electorates). Common sense should have told him that he was supposed to do underground work and target those that will chose the primary candidate rather than waste money.

PDP has successfully deceived him once again. Being the greatest threat to the party's candidate, they lured him into PDP only for him to be stylishly edged out.

With the outcome of events, I hereby confer on Ribadu, the title of; THE GREATEST POLITICAL FOOL OF THE YEAR.

Sincere9gerian: I hope Tinubu attack dogs read the report fully? The must important thing is that Ribadu and others were not forced to step down. There was no orders FROM ABOVE for certain candidates to step down. There was no preferred candidate by a godfather somewhere. There is no anointed candidate by a certain all powerful godfather. While joining PDP, Ribadu knew he would still have to contest with other heavyweights in a primary election. That is the BEAUTY of democracy and that was what attracted Ribadu to the PDP.

This is unlike the Aggrieved People's Congress (APC) where the godfather has already anointed a candidate to fly the party's flag

You are so funny. The Democracy you referring to has to do with the right of the people to vote for whom they want not who the party puts forward. There is no stated law that says how a candidate must emerge from political parties.

Different political parties have different ideologies and so far so good, Tinubu's method has been more effective and worthwhile than your PDP that conducts kangaroo primaries. He sits down, draws up plans and brings out credible candidates not like the Pdp that parades criminals almost all the time and play politics of the highest bidder. The emergence of the flag bearer particularly in the East has to do with the highest bidder and that is why Tinubu is far more intelligent than the whole PDP put together.

Anyone that isn't satisfied with APC's style should go and float their own political party and see how easy it is to strategise, finance , maintain a party that will be a force to reckon with.

Moreover, the late Gani Fawenmi was a lawyer, when he came out as his party's flag bearer, did he conduct primaries? Did chris Okotie conduct primaries? Did Pat Utomi ever conduct primaries? Why weren't those ones attacked? I think it is time you stopped being obsessed with the highly intellectual Tinubu and face your party's business.


Left to me, I will always chose a system whereby all candidates are critically analysed and one of the best or the best is put forward (call it anointing if you like) and presented as a flag bearer rather than a method that gives rogues to contest, bid with money and the highest bidder or the one who is closest to the powers that be emerges the flag bearer.
PDP.....conducting kangaroo primaries since 1999. Afterall, Umaru emerged through one of the kangaroo primaries so, I am not surprised.

motherlode: Thanks for your concern, i will look up to that very soon and make corrections if possible.

Okay, I will be waiting, I really want to see it too.

Poor research work and writeup. You should have attached pivtures of abula sports.

Asisat Osuola gave a very impressive performance; she was everywhere. If we had like two of her type, we would have beaten the Germans silly.

What killed our team?

1) Loss of concentration and cordination.Ayila really messed up. Even when the ball passed, she should have done anything to stop that girl before entering the box 18. I expected the coach to remove the no7 jersey girl too from first half, she was just losing the ball anyhow. Her replacement was worse, the no 12 jersey (KANU) that couldn't even hold the ball nor make a good clearance.

2)Lack of technical awareness. That player shouldn't have hit the ball on the way to the net. I was just shouting "please don't hit the ball again" till she dazed it into the net.

3) Poor set pieces : This seems to be a majour problem with almost all the Nigerian teams. We wasted all the corners in the match and all the free kicks too.

4) Lack of stamina: it was obvious our girls couldn't withstand 120 minutes of play as they were justjust waiting for the clock to wind down against their wish though.

All in all, I think the coach did a good job . It is not easy coaching girls at all as they are very emotional and lose their mind so easily. We tried, good work girls, we played the Germans. Better luck next time.

Our wall didn't even jump for the free kick , make dwm no go do rough play o.

CFCfan: ^^
There may be a role for Uchechi Sunday today. She could be an extra help in dealing with the NZ aerial power.

Hmmm. I just hope so.

I watched different analysis of the Nigerian girls on our local TVs and I must say that our opponents have been unjustly underrated. Those girls from New Zealand are so tall and strong in the air too. Moreover, their speed na die, they are damn too fast and are so good on the ballwith fast passes and good finishing. If we can take care of their speed and aerial balls, we should be okay. Our girls seem to have an eye for long range balls, they have scored at least two screamers from such range. All the best to our girls. The best team so far in this competition is the German team( my opinion); Their no 9 is hot like fire just like PO (the no 9 jersey in the last competition).

Our Navy can't fight on water, how many of thm can succesfully navigate a compass? They just sit down there with their pot bellies embezzling funds. Our Airforce na wash too. Our foot soldiers still try small. Make Nigeria no go do play play with Russia o. I don't even want to imagine what it will be like for Nigeria to face Russia. It won't take Russia up to 30 minutes to wipe the whole of Nigeria.

freecitizn: Easy man. Take a closer look and you'll see what's left of the arm of the guy in suit just behind him...

Okay bro. The man's arm is showing a bit. So, the distance was photoshoped too? If the man was cropped out, it might be due to the fact that he isn't relevant in the scheme of things with respect to the news.

udysweet: I was gonna say d same tin abt d distance too! Anyway for those who hav seen d papers that can know if Koro was photoshopped in or out and if the distance also was photoshopped in or out,lol!

I wonder o. Help me ask them if the distance was photshoped too.Smh

JustCurious: No, Not a useless propaganda.
Obanikoro has revealed the discrepancy, too on his Facebook page.

PS: That was a picture of him during one of his inspections in Apapa. So the OP is so right and not a fool. Just calm down, you.

I am not disputing the fact that Obanikoro was there.What I am saying is that, the two pictures were taken differently; 1) When Obanikoro was standing in between the soldiers and 2) when Obanikoro wasn't standing there. The idea of he(Obanikoro) being cropped out is a crap and useless propanganda, thays my point.

OP is a phool. The distance between the two adjoining soldiers is not the same in both pitures. If Obanikoro was cropped out, why is there a difference in the distance Moreover, what is the link between the story , opposition and Obanikoro? It is most likely that those pictures were taken at different times; 1)when Obanikoro was there and 2) when Obanikoro wasn't there. All these useless propnganda won't take us anywhere. Nigerians are the most gullible creatures considering the way some people rushed to make ninsense comments. Think!!!!! Nigerians think!!!!! Common sense is not truely common.SMH.

buttchick: oh. It's only mechanics that speak bad grammar. Not to brag or point fingers, I have met supposed graduates who makes serious and noticeable blunders and even has the attitude of an a$$ to go about it

We all learn everyday, so, do not take anything personal. I observed that there is a dominant error in your writeups and it was the same mistake you made when you first named the thread. It is about singular and plural nouns in relation to the kind of verbs they take. An "s" is usually added to the back of the verb for a singular noun most times while the verb for a plural noun doesn't take any additional form.



The word "graduates" is plural and it will take "make" not "makes". " .........GRADUATES who MAKE bluders". "GUYS PISS me off". "The BOY COMES here everyday" etc. Moreover, the word "has" is never used for plurals.


My point is that all these things don't really matter so so much in human relations. I think communication is the key thing.If I were speaking with Prof. Soyinka, he might end up identifying various errors from my speech, so, it is a relative thing that depends on whom one is talking to.

2sExy1: it still does not give her the right to make a mockery of anyone! No everybody are privileged to attain the level of education others had!

And if we go by the law of chemical composition, certain chemical compounds will always be yielded under normal temperature and pressure, as well as favourable environment when right proportion of chemical elements are combined.

In other words, she who is laughing at others would commit same blunders if she had been raised under same environment as her subjects. Does she even know the kind of husband she would end up with?

You dont me to tell you about ladies who rocked the world ended as pissants. I have this strong dislike for people who look down on others just because of some favoured privilege apportioned to them.

I no wan start cos, I know some ladies who deactivated their accounts because of things I said to them. she go just piss for body.

Yeah, I get you perfectly but I have learnt how to deal with ladies overtime; not too hard on them, not too soft lest they start crying.