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aduhube:
Please help the house with the website or any link that may help.

Okay. Here is the link;



http://www./hotjobs/40194/lagos-state-civil-service-commission-job-recruitment-2014.html




If you want to teach, apply under "Education officer"

After the" www .", put "hotnigerianjobs dotcom" before you continue with the remainder of the link. Nairaland is messing up with the full link.

lovaleenny:
How do you get a teaching job....I have always wanted to be a teacher....its rewarding morally now I want to follow my dream

Lagos state government is currently recruiting for educational officers and other positions (it is a massive recruitment). Check online and apply fast because it is closing soon.

Well, I think MIT is the best university in the whole world. MIT is no match for Havard.

Kachisbarbie: I wish I had the time to take it personal...but nahhh - it's not my person. If I wanted to take it personal, I know the perfect way to reply you, that would match your choice of words. Feel free not to edit them, I found it 'disgusting' that you read a whole post of God knows how many characters/words and took out your time to pick out 1 error...'very disgusting' to put it lightly

I get your point, I am sorry dear. I was only trying to put a bit of humour to the debate. These things happen all the time to everyone and nothing can dispute the fact that you are a very sound lady. Afterall, if you check the first line of your teaching experience, you spelt it perfectly. Don't mind me.




P.S: I don't want to edit my own typos because that is what will make it "fun to read" and show that it happens to everyone. #English na awa mama tongue? #

Kachisbarbie: yeayea...all your points count Sir.
Now...clap for yourself, after that learn how to talk/type politely. Your choice of words tells a lot about your person.
-we can't all share same opinion, when someone doesn't agree with yours - please don't get worked up.

@your post
- unskilled and 'inexperienced' not 'inexperience'
-incompetent not 'imcompetent'
-over time not 'overtime'

feel free to say it's a typo

You said you were giving an example of a general subject, lets say I'm not a psychic to read your mind(or I might decide not to get your point) ...maybe you should be specific in future.

No one gets it all right...#ChewOnThat#

Hahahahaha, you are so funny dear. Honestly, you need not take these things personal, they are harmless points and thanks for the corrections. I won't edit the typos

Kachisbarbie: yeayea...all your points count Sir.
Now...clap for yourself, after that learn how to talk/type politely. Your choice of words tells a lot about your person.

I am sorry if you are vexed. The tone of your first reply was filled with insults both to the teachers and students of government schools and to think such points were gathered from a poorly done research based on a few selective samples and even maybe just one on field experience of teaching in a school we don't know the location deserves nothing but a reply in the same tone. Once again, sorry if you are vexed.

Kachisbarbie: very fat lie...I taught in a govt school as a corp member. you say they have up to 10arms? That's if the subject is general, what of electives?

Of course, everyone knows that elective subjects like further mathematics would be taken by a smaller number of students and I expected you to know I was giving an example of a general subject there.


Moreover, if electives are taken by a lower number of students, the number of students that will take such electives in government schools will definitely be far more than the number that will take such in 98% of private schools or are you trying to dispute the fact that the population of public school students is at least times 5 of the average private schools? This your point is off it. Let's see the next one.

Kachisbarbie: I thought acctng...we had 3 accounting arms for each level (ss1-3). My dear, I lost count of how many acct teachers, of which I didn't even know them till the day Ministry of Education came - I was surprised to see over 10teachers telling me and my fellow corp member that we suppose to be reporting to them. These are people we have never seen

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You mistakenly spelt "taught" as "thought". I think you should correct that first.

Kachisbarbie: They don't even set tough questions - I remember setting my exam questions and the principal asked me if I'm sure they can answer this one

If she asks that, it could mean different things. Probably she is not sure enough if you have taught well enough to give the kind of questions you have set.

Kachisbarbie: -I can remember being told to approximate 35 to 40 so the student can @least get an E

This one could happen anywhere and it is a well known fact that private schools do it more.Infact, when students repeat in the public schools, they will go and register in private schools and never repeat because it is almost unheard of. They will push them till final classes where they will be given photocopies of "orijo" to copy and blast external exams.

Kachisbarbie: -I can remember seeing so any exotic cars by 7:45 to sign attendance - by 9am...you can count the no of cars/teachers that would be remaining

The principal of such school is imcompetent and needs to be fired.

Kachisbarbie: In govt schools the student don't even come to school, they don't even like to take their test...
So where would you even see the 700 scripts to mark?
Is it the script that you can mark in 30secs? Because they wouldn't write anything sensible

You wouldn't want to start what you cannot finish. The best scholars have been known to be the product of public schools overtime. It is an insult to say they do not write anything sensible. Moreover, truancy van be played by anyone whether in a government school or private.

Kachisbarbie: In a govt school, you may just have to teach twice in a week(a particular arm/class). The students don't even challenge you, so it's easy for you to enter the class and freestyle. You can't compare it to teaching private students - that keep asking you both the one that is their business and the one that isn't

If they do not challenge you nor ask you questions, then you lack the requisite knowledge and skills to teach effectively, you failed to bring out the curiosity in them and that was why someone suggested that only qualified persons should teach and not crashers. In this case, you have no option as it was NYSC's posting so I won't blame you for being unskilled and inexperience.

Kachisbarbie: By the way private school pass private sch...my secondary sch had 12arms of each class from Jss1 - Ss3 (it was a private sch). Not all private schools are densely populated

I think this statement is bereft of logic. If your so called private secondary school had 12 arms for each of the classes from jss1- ss3, that means it is a big private school and the population of the students is on the high only for you to say again that "not all private schools are densely populated". That does not follow.

Kachisbarbie: I'm not saying all govt. schools are bad - but majority of them are lazy! They don't do anything!

Who are the "them"? This thread is referring to teachers and if it is the teachers in government schools you are referring to, this is not true. Majority of the are not lazy, at least I can speak for lagos state. Teaching is being carried out in a standardized way with the best brains available. I could take you round on an excursion in your free time. The only thing that is needed is just a better conducive working environment and a substantial salary. Again, I ask, where was your NYSC? The scenerios you pasted here are really dusgusting.

Kachisbarbie: very fat lie...I taught in a govt school as a corp member. you say they have up to 10arms? That's if the subject is general, what of electives?
I thought acctng...we had 3 accounting arms for each level (ss1-3). My dear, I lost count of how many acct teachers, of which I didn't even know them till the day Ministry of Education came - I was surprised to see over 10teachers telling me and my fellow corp member that we suppose to be reporting to them. These are people we have never seen. They don't even set tough questions - I remember setting my exam questions and the principal asked me if I'm sure they can answer this one
-I can remember being told to approximate 35 to 40 so the student can @least get an E
-I can remember seeing so any exotic cars by 7:45 to sign attendance - by 9am...you can count the no of cars/teachers that would be remaining.

In govt schools the student don't even come to school, they don't even like to take their test...
So where would you even see the 700 scripts to mark?
Is it the script that you can mark in 30secs? Because they wouldn't write anything sensible

In a govt school, you may just have to teach twice in a week(a particular arm/class). The students don't even challenge you, so it's easy for you to enter the class and freestyle. You can't compare it to teaching private students - that keep asking you both the one that is their business and the one that isn't

By the way private school pass private sch...my secondary sch had 12arms of each class from Jss1 - Ss3 (it was a private sch). Not all private schools are densely populated

I'm not saying all govt. schools are bad - but majority of them are lazy! They don't do anything!

...Well, definitely not in Lagos. Where was your NYSC? Moreover, elective subjects wouldn't be taught to all students (we all know that one) even in private schools. So, that point doesn't count.

Happy birthday dejt4U. I wish you all the best things in life. Thanks to Stennon for remembering your birthday as well. Many more fruitful years ahead in good health and wealth (Amen).* Let me go get my glass of wine *winks*

kelechiMarie: you're so right@op I really pity teachers especially those that teach in private schools[teachers in govt.schools hardly work]they're overworked and underpaid.Imagine someone teaching from 9am-4pm and earns less than twenty thousand and he still has to deal with insolent,lazy and rude students!no wonder they're usually hot-tempered

Let me correct you there, teachers in government schools do a whole lot of work. What do you mean by they hardly work? How many students are in those private schools? How many periods do the teachers have per week? In a government school, a teacher to student ratio can be 1 to 700+. The continuous assessment could be in 4 places, imagine marking 700 scripts in 4 places, that is about 2800 scripts in all. Some of the schools have classes in the range A,B,C,D,E,F,G,H,I,J . Most times, you move from class to class and if care is not taken, you will start feeling dizzy on the fourth class and your voice begins to faint. Resumption time is 7.45 am and close time s around 4pm. So, teachers in government schools do more work than you can ever imagine. Okay?

I have a first hand experience with respect to teaching and here are some of my observations about why teachers are not properly treated;


1) Some teachers suffer from inferiority complex: I believe even if you do not want to do something and you find yourself there by accident or whatsoever, the best thing to do is to take it seriously and not feel bad about what you do while envying those in other professions.




2) Most teachers do not dress well: There is a popular saying that says "the way you dress is the way you will be addressed". The society tends to look down on teachers in this regard. Some male teachers wear over-sized shirts and pants , tuck in and then put on a sandal. How can you put on a sandal on a tucked in shirt? The females do not dress too well too. You will see a bulk of the females with over-due hairstyles, rumbled on the head or just packed anyhow and all.




3)Even though most teachers are educationists, they are not sophisticated in reasoning and behaviour. They don't queue when they are supposed to and like to rush to get things. I was at an event at Alausa and you need to see the way a lot of them were rushing to pick up their meal packs after the seminar, the lines were scattered as if the food was going to finish. I felt so ashamed. Even in speaking, they do not show sophistication, vernacular is the order of the day, you can hardly hear them communicate in English( official language) during work hours except in classes .




4) As for the private schools(not all though) ,most of them are not serious. They usually engage in examination malpractice during external examinations because to them, the main aim of parents that register kids in their schools is to make O levels. They see no reason why they should pay a teacher heavily when they already have a shortcut. So, rather than pay the teacher for the knowledge being dished out, they are paying just for the position of the subject being occupied so that there will be teachers for all the subjects. WAEC and other examination bodies have failed woefully in clamping down examination malpractices as well.

If there are no examination malpractices and other shortcuts, the teachers in these schools will be well paid as the students success will be so dependent on how they teach and the efforts they put in.





5) Government Plays Politics With Education

This is the saddest of all the points, what is termed "free education" is not a good type of education. The kind of education we give our kids is highly substandard, it can best be described as "let my people go education" ,the only standard thing about it is the knowledge of the teachers, there is no how a qualitative education can be totally free considering the population but we just keep on deceiving ourselves.

It is not too bad if public school kids pay 3,000 naira per term, there is power in numbers and on the average, each government school will generate at least 10million naira per annum. With this, government can effectively fund schools and pay the teachers well but the Government dare not do this because, opposing parties will use that against it during electioneering . Government also spends hundreds of millions in registering students for WAEC. All the students took the exams in my school last time but only 5 of them registered for NECO because it was not free. A bulk of the parents are also so irresponsible, they just give birth and pour their kids on the government's neck from primary school to secondary school, even if you ask them to pay 1,000 per term(a term is 3 months), some won't still pay it. So, how will such parents respect teachers? Some do not even sew uniforms for their kids when the one they have is worn out, some do not buy sandals and so on How can they appreciate education and the teachers when it is free.


As a result of this, the students and the teachers are liabilities to the government. The school doesn't generate any fund for the government, so, how can the teachers be well renumerated? Impossible! The staffrooms are not condusive enough, no facilities/ gadgets in most, poor electricity supply and so on. Even if you do not like your job but the work environment is conducive, you will get to settle well with time.
As it stands now, until free education is cancelled, teachers will never be paid well.

Although , teaching is a noble profession, the kind of society we live in looks down on people with a trashy amount as salary. From what I have seen,most teachers save their lives out before they can achieve any meaningful thing in life and they are always paying debts they have to refund through corporatives and all. They say teachers are now using cars and all, you can hardly find a tear rubber car in any of the schools, most of the cars are rickety ones bought with a lot of savings.


Finally, with respect to finances, teaching pays on the long run if you are ready to spend the rest of your life there but as a starter, in the first ten years+, your salary will just be sufficient to eat and do some minor things with no majour savings that can take care of big emergencies. God bless teachers!

dejt4u: *Edited
Nice one onihaxy..you have done well with your highlighted points..

At first, I felt bad when I ws admitted to study education physics but along the line, the interest was just growing at the speed of light..


The grand cause of all these problems is the government atitude towards teaching profession..

Way out;
1. There should be an office of the tutor-general of the federation..and also one for each six geopolitical zones.

2. Teacher salary scale should be reviewed every 5years inorder to give room for improvement nd proper placement

3. Teachers should be more engaged in what they studied.. Imagine someone that study chemistry education now teaching physics nd chemistry in secondary schools..it shldnt be like that

4a. There shld be a professional exam apart from university/college of edu certificate.. This will just complement the degree certificates nd will also serve as teaching licence.. Remember that the mistakes of a teacher can affect many generations whereas that of doctor is jst for that patient life alone.
4b. Teachers Registration Council TRC's certificate should only be given after the professional exam as stated in 4a and not as exam-free as it's bin done. That certificate will serve as the licence to teach in formal institution(i.e schools at all levels)
4c. Every teacher no matter the level of teaching should have this certificate including the university lecturers. Individual with no TRC certificate shld nt be offered the teaching/lecturing jobs.
4d. Pre-requisite to this exam should be a degree certificate in education or a college of education certificate or a post-graduate diploma in education certificate

5. All teachers nd lecturers should possess at least a diploma training in education. Even lectures in engineering, medicine, pharmacy nd law should have at least PGDE certificate.
With this, education profession will not be for all tom, dickk nd Harry

6. Minisitries of Education and National Orientation Agency should deem proper orientation fit for the teenagers and the youths about the importance of education and advantages of being an educationist.

7. Education Research Institutes like NERDC and the rests should be properly funded

8. Adult literacy Education should be well encouraged




with the aforementioned points, If the need is properly done, then we will definitely get to where we are suppose to be in the following respec:
1. Mass failure in schools will be reduced to the minimum
2. There will be respect and security for teaching profession just exactly as we have it in other professions
3. The attitude of youths will be greatly changed for better
4. It will have great impact in the nation development as this will definitly improve the standard of education nd graduates our institutions will be producing

any counter-opinion is welcomed here

Hey bro, nice points you have up there. My own contributions coming soon. When are we having the next mathematics competition?

rezzy: okay. Thanks.

Im learning everyday

You are welcome sir.

rezzy: thank you

The correct saying is "It is better to be late than to be the late".

1) Slow and steady wins the race : I think this is wrong, it should be "slow and steady completes the race". If you are slow and steady, you will definitely complete your race someday but not necessarily win it.




2) There is a Yoruba proverb that says....Aro meta kin da obe nu which mean.....Three stones ( those ones cooking pots are usually put on) cannot pour off the stew. I think this should be " Three WELL PLACED stones cannot pour off the stew" because of the stones aren't placed well, the whole pot will pour off.

@Op, I know almost all these schools particularly those ones in Lagos. Remove Barachel model college from the list ASAP.



The best secondary school in Nigeria is LOYOLA JESUIT COLLEGE, ABUJA in all ramifications.

ggirl4real: I love dis. I wish these can really work out on all occasions. In a situation where a female student is really out to get a male teacher at all cost, she'll do all within her powers to make sure she succeeds. I pray God should help the male teachers who have made up their minds not to compromise, to realy stand tall in d face of all the advances

Yeah, you are very correct, so many nasty experiences but once your mind is off it and you just see them as your little sisters, you will be able to cope well. A funny incident even happened recently. After talking with one of the senior girls in my office( academic based discussion), I said "okay, bye bye, regards to your parents" and continued reading the newspapers. When she was leaving(I didn't pay much attentiin), she quickly gave me a peck and ran away. Can you imagine?

When you teach female students, the best thing is to avoid all forms of too much familiarity and you will be fine. There is no how you wouldn't like at least one of them too (not necessarily for dating), that's a normal thing.

Another thing I observed about female students particularly in a girls only school is always the battle of who gets the young, intelligent teacher, so, it is not uncommon to find them throwing advances at one. Some will tell you "my dad said I should collect your phone number" which is usually a big lie. The best way to tackle such is to say "give me your dad's number, I will call him". Their best bet is usually through social networks. There was a time my facebook request was almost 500. The best thing to do is never to accept the requests because even the few responsible ones I accepted (about 5 of them) will always bug you with chats and all.


If you also try solving problems for them when they are close by, they have this funny way of resting their b*obs all over you just to show you they are big girls or to make you see you haven't been looking well, so, any teaching to be done should be done on the board.

It is not uncommon also to see that female teachers so much jealous female students and that was how I knew women are generally the same thing whether girl, lady, woman, grand mum etc. They envy the attention male teachers give to the students(even if it is purely academic based).

All in all, it is a normal thing for young girls to have crush on one, nothing abnormal about it but it is one's responsibility to help them through this phase of ravaging hormones and all as they are still immature(even if they have grown so big and all) and naïve. It won't be a good thing to capitalize on that. If one wants to flirt, there are more than enough girls around aside students. So, dating a student should be a no go area no matter the attraction.



The funny thing is that once the students observe that this teacher is not the randy type despite all the advances, they tend to respect you more and they solely focus on other more important things like academics, they tend to pay more attention in your class, update their notes, do assignments promptly and all.

If you give your best to the students, they will give their best too. They cherish teachers that dedicate their time to them to help them through academics rather than the randy ones. So, I wasn't surprised when on my birthday, despite the fact that I didn't tell anyone, all the classes I went to sang "a happy birthday song" and when I got back to the office, I got like 7 big cakes from different persons and groups (imagine what it will take them to save for such) and gifts were more than 100 even some ex students came to say a happy birthday and brought gifts as well. My happiness was unquantifiable! My point is, making a positive impact is far more rewarding than falling for a mere temptation or capitalizing on individuals that do not even know what they are doing. May God help us!

Is this supposed to be a make up for the inconsequential thread of yesterday? . Anyway, this is better.

lebesgue: I have nothing intelligent to add to this discussion. I'd like to apologize for taking up this space.

Lebesgue the maths genius! How are you?

Iamzuna: Sup bro... Just wanted to ask you which you think is better... Messi's goal yesterday or Okocha's goal... No debating ooo... Just yes or no..

Sorry, I didn't see the match , I will download tye highlights in my spare time. Didn't you see Ronaldo's hat trick too?

habiolah: You two should get a room jare...
and park well. lol

Hahahaha, funny dude.

Lily4star, I am here.

safarigirl: I'm telling you now, that I've come across tall, large women who won't mind a guy like Ime Bishop...

This explains my point exactly. The statement "who won't mind" is indifference and not preference

safarigirl: I've met ladies who like short guys, to them, tall guys are 'less'

Lies would do you no good. No lady prefer a shorter guy to herself. She may not be too crazy about a very tall dude but ladies like someone a bit taller thannthem or same height don't make it sound as if the ones you met readily prefer a short guy. Some ladies are also indifferent about height and that does not necessarily imply prererence for short guys.

I think we shouldn't really blame safarigirl, she is just a little teenager and in her penultimate year or so in higher institution, so, she knows little or nothing about life but truth be told, her comprehension level is too poor, this is what you get when teenagers spend too much time on social media rather than educative stuffs.

Moreover, she is a tribal bigot, argues sentimentally, has a caustic tongue(or should I say caustic fingers or betterstill, caustic brain cos that's where the whole thinking comes from), she likes attention and the best ways to get such are by being ridiculously funny , hovering around the romance section with ftequent posts or being controversial. I guess it has been a while her name has been mentioned here hence the reason for this useless post that is fit only for the bins and into the bins it must go. Rubbish!

Lily4star: Better, oya apologise for the tears you just caused

I am sorry. *takes handkerchief from pocket, wipes her tears*

Lily4star: What do you mean by you ll try?

If you don't watch it don't buy me the chin-chin again, I don't want

I won't even attend to my busy schedules tomorrow because of the match. I will watch it. Give me a smile.

Lily4star: Muuuuuuuah thanks baby

Don't forget to watch my Darling United beat Leicester City tomao ok?

Okay, I will try to

Iamzuna: I know why... Its because you love Ronaldo and everyone i know that likes Ronaldo as well like Mourinho.... But it would be nice to have that debate... i no go talk too much but i will just be countering every point you bring up

.That does not apply to me though. I like being as objective as I can not because I love Ronaldo. I love Messi too. I love Pepe and Mou but khakhi no be leather( debate for another day).

Iamzuna: Another topic i would luv wud b Pep Guardiola vs Jose Mourinho. I knw Naturalwaves will be happy bt Pep na my man anyday anytym

Hahahaha. I wonder why we are always on opposite sides.

Iamzuna: What he meant was for the shot to hit the target even if the keeper catches it.

I have been giving you some benefits of doubt regarding being a sentimental Messi fan but you just confirmed it with this point of yours. Was the freekick he ballooned over the bar against Germany at the world cup accurate? Several times, I have watched Messi whine the ball totally off target, even in the match against Germany at first half, he blew a one on one chance when his shot went off (parallel) the keeper's left vertical pole. Let's be objective when we argue. Messi does not have a 100% shot accuracy except if your definition of 100 % is different from the normal one.