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Lagos is one of the major beneficiaries of oil blood money.abuja is no2.3 is kaduna.4-otta and some places in ogun state.it annoys every niger-deltan when people from lagos,kaduna and abuja try to downgrade our homeland.tell me why the largest seaport shouldnt have been built in bayelsa?why do people here have to pay N75 for fuel?Port-Harcourt is a large piece of slum.warri nko?is there any meaningful federal gov. target in enugu,aba or onitsha?i dont support violence but injustice breeds inward grievances and eventual hatred and disgust.

Who is this that made this statement?  Who is the person that spoke like this. . . eh?  Becareful my friend.   No spit this kind nonsense again o.  You want hear my tongue this afternoon.

Your access into Lagos is in exchange for Oil from South.  Thats your visa. Let us know when you finish blowing all the oil depot for Lagos finish.  Your visa is about to expire.


No mind me o. . . that na my mischief side  

Let it doom us so that we can go back to re-draw how we can co-exist as a nation.

re-draw?  co-exist?  There will be no nation!  

No, not at all. . . no, there can never be a legitimate global alternative to justify the inequities.

never register any email or username with your true identity and always use dynamic ip. If you are on lan, dump your ip periodically and register/acquire a new one. also. . . very important never share on web what you desire to keep private.

The aim is to bring oil production down to 0 bpd

I hope not.  The global economy right now does not leave much room for safeties. . .any total crippling will doom us. . . everybody, Hausa or not.

Freezy, I feel you!

Presido,

How dare you take the word of BBC and Yahoo against a eye witness report on the ground?  You want make I send MEND to ya backyard, ehn?

BIG BIG BIG LIE @ THIS REPORT.

I REPEAT ITS A BIG LIE.I STAY CLOSE TO THAT ISLAND(ATLAS COVE) N THERE HAS BEEN NO EXPLOSION WATSOEVER.SO WHOEVER POSTED THIS REPORT SHOULD PROVIDE PROOF AND LINKS.

Could the hit have happened elsewhere and Atlas Cove was used in the reporting to minimize embarassment?  People like you can see AC and therefore disprove MEND's claim.  Is this Govt using propaganda to discredit MEND?

Cripple Shell, Mobil, Chevron, Agip(if they can get near). . . No wahala. Blow up Mosimi? A vandal's move and it seems MEND is loosing focus.

I share your concern but. . . Not, if the blown asset belongs to any of the mentioned companies.  I can only imagine that this is an extension of their reach but the targeted assets are still the same, those belonging to the oil companies.  But we dont have the full facts yet to say one way or the other.

you know maybe thats a wrong move bringing him into something like this. It only makes matter worse, Im sorry.

An oil depot was hit.  An oil depot. . .   an oil depot was hit!  Who are these people looking for sings of the carnage within city vicinity.  A gaddem oil depot in Lagos was hit by MEND.  

MEND tactical deploy = swamp, riverine, mangrove

Lagos State terrain = swamp, riverine, mangrove

Put two and two together that means its likely a depot located in a riverine, swamp or off shore in the Atlantic.  It does not have to be in Lagos city or its metro.  

Where is Becomerich to assist with satellite maps for God's sake?

Yep, true talk Beaf!

That brings this discussion around. . .MEND has taken exactly that step to be the voice and shield of defense for the rights of its indigenes.  I support them wholeheartedly.  They are fighting a justified grievance, so far that their goal and target does not shift.  

If they keep doing what they do eventually they will overcome the government stall.

How will anybody who is not Yoruba or the aboriginal people in Lagos seize and own Lagos

If you know where to look and have the right strategy. . .it can be done. In its history Lagos has been seized multiple times and its leadership converted over. Each time, the invasion hit the same weakness.

Epiphany,

The exploitation and theft of Southern oil is criminal.  CNN has covered it, BBC has covered it. . . yet US government and Europeans have done nothing to bring about reform, although they keep hollering about human rights abuse in the Niger Delta.  It's all talk but no concrete action.  Instead they back the oil companies rights to operate commercially and protect against threats.  So then let us ask, where's Nigerian government's interest.

If we are going to talk about where the oil money has gone and how it is distributed then we need statistical and economic reports as well as budgetary records.  These are professional fields and the people who for many years generated these reports are not the Hausas. . . it was the Southerners.  The Northerner may be a ruling elite but the Southerner is equally a technocrat elite.  To say that for all of these years the Southerner has not evolved ways in which to outsmart the Northerner in a field where the Southerner holds the comparative advantage is beyond belief.  

If I were at all involved in the mediation of this problem I would encourage both sides to first of all form regional think tanks led by professionals and academics.  I will keep politicians out of the mediation meetings and only meet with the egg heads.  The politicians channell their voice and opinion through the think tanks.

Let this not be the straw that breaks the camel's back

No it will not.  They are not going to attack and stay in the vicinity.  They will hit and return home or stage a remote station nearby.  A remote base far away from home increases risk.  So their damages cannot be sustained to an extent where it will result in an open warfare.  

An open warfare will result say if they start to target and kill civilians.  Their mission is to disable oil supply.  But given some of the responses here it appears that some individuals have tribal agendas and would love it if MEND would target and kill people, thus solidifying their own entry into the confrontation and a lifelong desire to seize and own Lagos.  A dissilusioned desire.  

katakata don burst. . . . I just siddon look, waiting for Yar'Adulls response. . . . the topics he submitted to the SNC for discussion included nothing on federalism and regional autonomy. . . . coconut head, na stone dem dey use break am.

The North is still practicing a doctrine of rulership perfected by Ahmadu Bello.  Ahmadu Bello used advisors broadly and cared less if they were educated or not.  

Conversely in the South, your degree is your voice, scr_w the wisdom.  Many local Chiefs in the South had lamented for years on the erosion of regional power and autonomy and they were ignored.  

The North is not going to champion it.  The Hausas are not happy to have Fulanis rule over them but there is a delicate balance in the language and the religion that serve their political needs.  The Gwaris and the Kwais and other sub-ethnic groups in the North are not happy with the cultural domination by Hausas but are more than happy to aquiesce and compromise with them under the umbrella of the Islamic Arewa.  In these structures are opportunities to exploit vulnerable and weak seams of togetherness.

political, social, economic, and infrastructural development in Africa.

Given the history of pre and post independence Africa and the struggles that our people face daily on that continent, I believe we need to create a new way of measuring development. Let us step away from the traditional way of equating mega structures and neon lights and skyscrapers as evidence of social progress. Consideration must be given to the way in which the capabilities of the ordinary citizen is enabled and that empowerment in turn is used judiciously for a better society in terms of productive output and efficiency.

Turning this post around. . . let us ask in which country in Africa are the citizens most enabled and empowered to feel a sense of ownership and investment in their own country?

I know you did not include Tanzania. . .but those people are proud of their country and they do not have much but they live like they own everything.  A true model for Africa.

Did this really happen

You mean the attack on the oil depot in Lagos? Probably so, who knows?

No knowledgeable person thinks that Mend is a terrorist group. It is clear that their interests go beyond petty terrorizing and is an actual struggle to achieve a very simple objective.

True. . . unfortunately when these oil companies talk, Leaders around the world listen, knowledgable or not. . . and their talk is not of truth but of evil propaganda.

Personally, I have always thought so. For example if you invent something in Nigeria, what happens? Anyone with that experience would know we lack structures and instituitions, where is our patent office and what do they do?

I agree with you that our system stinks.  We have changed leaders many times. . . we have changed policies many times, including style of governing. . . but we have never reformed the strutural pillars of our parastatals.  The civil service and public administration framework we are using now is the heritage of the British colonial system.  That system was designed to sustain a master-servant relationship between the ruling class and the populace.  The display of an unusual ability amongst the natives was not expected.  

What about when Nigeria had the Structural Adjustment Programme (SAP) under IBB? It was also clear at that time that we had no structures talkless of adjusting them.

That was the follow up to IMF loan.  The loan requirements were precise. SAP impacted many social programms and amongst them were the need to reduce funding for educational programms and learning as well as reduction in health care funding.  You have to wonder what right thinking leader allows foreigners to dictate the wellbeing and educational needs of his people in exchange for a loan?  I wrote somewhere else. . probably in culture where I credited the Buhari/Idiagbon regime for their attempt and genuine effort to do a wholesale reformation of the government. They had the choice to take IMF they turned it down.  Look. . . that turn of event is a chapter on its own.  Lets leave it alone.

Mike,

Good talk!  It amazes me how the mention of any small scale chaos anywhere in the country is automatically translated into a Biafran aggression.  I have said it many times. . .Biafra is realizable for those that want it, and in fact it is the right thing for the Igbos to do. . to get their own sovereingty, but not in defiance of wisdom and definitely not by war or violence.

A conglomeration of oil companies have communicated to the outside world that MEND is a terrorist group. . . these are powerful corporations that fund covert operations against governments adversarial to their exploration interests.  Politically, that is not a good label on MEND.  It is a false and cruel categorization but that's how they operate.  Now, some inept Igbos in here are hoping that MEND's actions in Lagos and elsewhere will succeed and lay the ground for MASSOB to pounce.  Well, how do you think the globally powerful and influence wielding oil companies will label MASSOB?  Once MASSOB is viewed as a terrorist group, then you loose political support globally.

Think before you act and look before you jump!

If the retaliatory attacks are once again aimed at igbos it might lead to  repeat of history. Remember japanese pearl harbour attack.

. . . and you are comfortable with a repeat?

There will be counter-retaliation. If this will force the govt to the negotiating table; its long overdue. There is no contract between state and citizen in Nigeria. It might well be a piece of land the people inhabit. There needs to be a contract - that is the basis of the instituitions Obama has been talking about.

It's a backward way to negotiate interests.  Before Obama, has any one else talked about it?  . . . and if we never listened and acted on that drumbeat before, how do you expect that Obama's trumpet will make a difference in the outcomes?

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. . .at least they've struck one of the enemy targets.remaining otta,abuja,kaduna and kano

You have listed zones which by tradition are retaliatory to external attacks. How do you envision this will play out?

Perhaps then it is a good thing that my percieved desires have never and will never influence the outcome of events much larger than you or I.

To the extent that we uphold hope and goodwill in the affairs of human society, then we are capable of influencing outcomes, good or bad. The choice is individual.

I did not make wrong assumptions of your comment. . .I stated the obvious. You found it hard to conceal your desire for a destructive end.

Plat, are they on tour. . .where can I get ticket?