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Christianity EtcRe: Is Jesus God? by Nezan(m): 10:25am On Oct 22, 2009
pastor seeker, you can also seek to give us a Bible study on the following claims of Christ:

His claims to pre-existence


Jesus claimed the have been pre-existent before his birth--he was around before Abraham (Jn 8.58-59)
Jesus claimed to have been pre-existent in heaven with glory before His incarnation (Jn 3.13; Jn 6.33; Jn 6.38; Jn 6.62; Jn 8.23; Jn 8.42; Jn 10.30-39; Jn 16.28; Jn 17.5)



His claims relative to worship, glorification, exaltation, object of religious faith, title of "God".


Jesus promised to come in 'the glory of the Father' (Mark 8.38)
Jesus held himself out as a legitimate object for religious faith (Mark 9.42; Jn 3.15; Jn 9.35f) even to the same extent as the Father (Jn 14.1)
He NEVER corrects those who accuse him of making himself equal to God (Mr 2.5ff; Jn 5.17ff; Jn 8.58-59; Jn 10:30-39) nor those who called him "GOD" (Jn 20.28).
He claims loyalty greater than ALL human loyalties (Mt 10.37)
Jesus claims that he should be honored co-extensively with the Father! (Jn 5.17f)
He claims the Father is seeking Jesus' glory (Jn 8.50 with 8.54b; Jn 13.31) and that the two are linked (Jn 11.4)
He uses the divine epithet "I AM" (Jn 8.58-59, 24, 28)
He accepts worship without rebuke, and even with commendation (Jn 9.35-38)



His claims to authority


Jesus claimed to be able to forgive sins (Mark 2.5ff; Lk 7.48f)
Jesus had authority over the Sabbath (Mark 2.28; Mt 12.cool
Jesus claims that the elect are his, and that the angels are his (Mr 13.26f)--either in possession or authority over
He implied that he had the ability/authority to abolish the law (Mt 5.21)
He implied by his "but I say to you, " passages a divine authority (Mt 5)
He had the authority to give authority over evil to others (Lk 10.19)
He claims to have universal authority (Jn 17.2)
He has authority to confer a kingdom--in the SAME MANNER that the Father does (Lk 22.29f)
He claims to have authority to send/give the Holy Spirit of God! (Lk 24.49; Jn 4.10 with 7.37-39; Jn 15.26; Jn 16.7)



His claims to IDENTITY/EQUALITY with the Father


Jesus claims that one's response to Jesus is equated to one's response to God (Jn 15.23).
Jesus claims that to see Him is to see the Father! (Jn 14.9)
He claims to be, and is repeatedly called, the potentially blasphemous title "Son of God" (Mr 14.62 et. al. )
He NEVER corrects those who accuse him of making himself equal to God (Mr 2.5ff; Jn 5.17ff; Jn 8.58-59; Jn 10:30-39) nor those who called him "GOD" (Jn 20.28).
He claims to be on a par with the Father and the Holy Spirit (Mt 28.19)
He claims that his coming was the same as God's coming (Lk 19.43ff)
He claims to operate co-extensively with the Spirit (Mk 21.14-15 with Mt 10 and Mr 13)
He claims to operate co-extensively with the Father (Jn 5.17ff; Jn 10.30-39; Jn 15.9)



His claims to a UNIQUE relationship to the Father


Jesus considered His Sonship-relation with the Father to be ABSOLUTELY unique (Mr 12.1-11; Jn 20.17)
He claims to be the unique Heir of God (Mr 12.1-11)
He claims to have EXCLUSIVE knowledge of the Father (Mt 11.27; Jn 7.28-29)
He claims to have been the only one to have seen the Father (Jn 6.46; Jn 8.38)
He claims to be absolutely perfect/sinless-he ALWAYS pleases the Father (Jn 8.29; Jn 8.46)



His exalted nature and powers


Jesus is often linked to the word 'Lord' (Mr 11.3; Mr 5:19-20)
Jesus claimed to be greater than King David (Mr 12.35-37), than the Temple (Mt 12.6), than the prophet Jonah (Mt 12.41), than King Solomon (Mt 12.42).
He claims that his rank in the universe is superior to the angels (Mr 13.32)
He implies that he is, or will be, omnipresent (Mt 18.20; Mt 28.19)
He claims to have access to knowledge of the future, and events occurring in heaven (Lk 22.31).
He claims to be able to give freedom (Jn 8.36)
He claims to be able to raise himself from the dead! (Jn 10.17ff)



Claims of Jesus which make NO SENSE if He were not God


Jesus claims that his words will outlast time itself! (Mr 13.31)
He claims that the eternal destiny of people depend on their response to HIM! (Mt 7.21ff; Mt 25.17ff)
He claims to have been the only one to have seen the Father (Jn 6.46; Jn 8.38 with Ex 33.20)
He claims to be absolutely perfect/sinless-he ALWAYS pleases the Father (Jn 8.29; Jn 8.46)
Jesus makes statements that are completely ludicrous, if he is not God. (Jn 14.28; Jn 15.5; Jn 17.10)
Christianity EtcRe: Is Jesus God? by Nezan(m): 10:22am On Oct 22, 2009
pastor seeker, explain this too:

John 6:46 (New International Version)
46No one has seen the Father except the one who is from God; only he has seen the Father.
Christianity EtcRe: Is Jesus God? by Nezan(m): 10:19am On Oct 22, 2009
@ the seeker; Analyse these verses too, pastor ;

Mark 14:61-62 (New International Version)
61But Jesus remained silent and gave no answer.
Again the high priest asked him, "Are you the Christ, the Son of the Blessed One?"

62"I am," said Jesus. "And you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Mighty One and coming on the clouds of heaven."


and

Luke 5:20-24 (New International Version)

20When Jesus saw their faith, he said, "Friend, your sins are forgiven."

21The Pharisees and the teachers of the law began thinking to themselves, "Who is this fellow who speaks blasphemy? Who can forgive sins but God alone?"

22Jesus knew what they were thinking and asked, "Why are you thinking these things in your hearts? 23Which is easier: to say, 'Your sins are forgiven,' or to say, 'Get up and walk'? 24But that you may know that the Son of Man has authority on earth to forgive sins, " He said to the paralyzed man, "I tell you, get up, take your mat and go home."
Christianity EtcRe: Is Jesus God? by Nezan(m): 10:13am On Oct 22, 2009
@ the seeker; You now claim to be a Pastor, analysing Biblical verses. What of these verses from Matthew? analyse them Pastor cheesy cheesy

Matthew 16:15-17 (New International Version)

15"But what about you?" he asked. "Who do you say I am?"

16Simon Peter answered, "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God."

17Jesus replied, "Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by man, but by my Father in heaven.
Jobs/VacanciesRe: New Job by Nezan(m): 9:55am On Oct 22, 2009
Congra-tulobia!
RomanceRe: Torn Between Two Men by Nezan(m): 9:49am On Oct 22, 2009
You need to decide on what you personanally want first.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: CSKA Moscow Vs Man United [0 - 1] On Wed 21st by Nezan(m): 9:38am On Oct 22, 2009
So Man. U won the game, I was too busy to watch.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: 21st Oct: Happy Birthday Mukina2!(hey, She Deserves It) by Nezan(m): 9:33am On Oct 22, 2009
Mukina, happy buffday . . . how old are you?
Christianity EtcRe: 'How T.B. Joshua Took My Wife' – Pastor Peter Kayode Tells It All by Nezan(m): 4:28pm On Oct 21, 2009
What is really happening at the synagogue . . undecided . . ?
PoliticsRe: Achebe To Nigerian Youths: Rise And Reclaim Your Country by Nezan(m): 4:06pm On Oct 21, 2009
Good talk, man.
SportsRe: Dede Ayew (Ghana's U-20 Skipper) Denies Speaking To Pastor Joshua by Nezan(m): 4:02pm On Oct 21, 2009
Hmmm . . . . *sighs*
EventsRe: Why Is The Wedding Ring Worn On The Fourth Finger? by Nezan(m): 1:48pm On Oct 21, 2009
I honestly dont know.
RomanceRe: Since I Met Her, I 've Been Having Bad Luck by Nezan(m): 1:37pm On Oct 21, 2009
Be prayerful, dude.
PoliticsRe: Do you know anything about "Greater Port Harcourt City?" by Nezan(m): 1:31pm On Oct 21, 2009
Great plans, I must say.
PoliticsRe: Why Soludo Cannot Rule Anambra State Now ! by Nezan(m): 1:22pm On Oct 21, 2009
Let the politiking begin, Anambra has always been an interesting political field.
SportsRe: U17 Scandal In The Making by Nezan(m): 1:13pm On Oct 21, 2009
I dont think we are planing to win in this competition.
PoliticsRe: Ecowas Suspends Niger Republic by Nezan(m): 1:07pm On Oct 21, 2009
I wonder what Mahmuda Tanja intends to benefit from been in power continually in the poor country of Niger.
HealthRe: NMA Faults Government On Treatment Of Gunshot Victims by Nezan(m): 1:01pm On Oct 21, 2009
^^ . . . and what are your recipes for cleaning the mess?
IslamRe: Child Bride, 12, Dies In Yemen After Struggling To Give Birth For Three Days by Nezan(m): 12:35pm On Oct 21, 2009
^^ Biblical proof?
IslamRe: Somali Rape Victim, 13, Stoned To Death by Nezan(m): 12:14pm On Oct 21, 2009
This is a sad story indeed. When will Somalia be peaceful?
BusinessRe: Soludo Fingered In Naira Notes Scandal by Nezan(m): 11:06am On Oct 21, 2009
Nigerian media . . . . .
ComputersRe: 419ers Take Over Facebook by Nezan(m): 10:56am On Oct 21, 2009
Why? why? why? This is getting to ridiculous levels.
Nairaland GeneralRe: Nairaland Versus Facebook by Nezan(m): 10:47am On Oct 21, 2009
NL and facebook to me, are two different sites. While you can share information with friends on FB, NL is purely a discussion forum.
RomanceRe: Is It Strange That I Don't Want A Church Wedding? by Nezan(m): 10:30am On Oct 21, 2009
You can decide how your wedding should be, in agreement with your would-be husband, nothing strange.
PoliticsRe: Nigerians Taking Over Africa by Nezan(m): 10:27am On Oct 21, 2009
I believe Nigeria will grow and become more prosperous than at present.
RomanceRe: Can You Marry Lady That Is Far Shorter Than You by Nezan(m): 2:22pm On Oct 20, 2009
If she is God's choice for you, why not? moreover short women are fond of increasing height nowadays by wearing high-heeled footwears.
PoliticsRe: Is Your State Governor Performing.,? by Nezan(m): 2:14pm On Oct 20, 2009
I last heard my Governor went to buy pigs with about 10billion(?) Naira that he was caught with in the USA. Yes, he is busy lining his pockets!
PoliticsRe: Updated! Skye Bank Sued For Female Prostitution ( Now In New York) by Nezan(m): 2:08pm On Oct 20, 2009
Is this not how all Bank girls are disturbing everybody in the name of marketing?
WebmastersRe: Nigeria Police Force "website" by Nezan(m): 2:01pm On Oct 20, 2009
This is 9ja police for you.
SportsRe: Yobo Sues Complete Sports Paper; Asks For N500m Damages by Nezan(m): 1:58pm On Oct 20, 2009
Let us know the real truth.
Car TalkRe: Can 200k Get Me A Car Today? by Nezan(m): 1:53pm On Oct 20, 2009
@OP; If you are not in haste to get a car, wait until you have at least 500K. A 200K car will not be that reliable.

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