₦airaland Forum

princfred:
First, am not a lazy Nigerian youth like you and Buharis children. Then am not in misery. Then her taking me out or not is not the point. The point is that I love the way she reasons. And yes help me beg her to accept my application. And stop thinking like a fowl by talking about reaping and sowing as am very willing to start sowing into the life of the op right away if thats what it takes .Its rare to find sensible humble women these days and i appreciate one enough when i see her to apply. Abi are you jealous? If you dont know better woman me i know them by the way they reason.

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Hehehe....look at this hungry parasite throwing insults.am sure you didn't read where I said it was a joke.honestly,I actually thought you were even joking not until now,how pathetic low life can you be.
So upon the very many smart and beautiful young ladies in Nigeria,it's one faceless character that may even be older than your mama or who belong into LGBT family in America you are in love with.you are a typical example of a lazy Nigeria youth.get serious with your life.

EgunMogaji:
She's specifically talking about America.

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Which part of her post did you read??..am sure you only read the part that appealed to you.I will suggest you go read that post again.

theamerican:
For those who have never traveled before and are unsure about what life really is abroad, I may not be able to tell you a lot about other countries but I can speak for myself here and what my experience has been. See, you may not understand the little things that make life worth living until you actually live in (not just visit) a very developed country.

The deal breaker for me is the violation of rights. Some people don't even know their rights not to talk of fighting back when they've been violated. No amount of money I make can make up for that and that's the main reason living here is a win for me. I can't mistakenly hit a soldier's car and start praying for death.

You see me driving an expensive car. Without any proof, you assume the source of my wealth is fraudulent. You stop me and ask to provide my ID, I give it to you, you say "let's go to our station" for absolutely NO freaking reason? I try to call my lawyer, you seize my phone and prevent me from reaching out to people. I didn't break any law, my crime is just driving an expensive car? Lol... you're looking for trouble.

I can sue anybody's father here for any nonsense . I don't have to suffer because of anyone's incompetence, recklessness, or stupidity.

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This seems a good start but even at that, fundamental human rights as you are trying to say is subjective,remember what constitutes a human rights violations in the US may not be the same let's say in a country like Russia or Nigeria.even the UN resolutions on human rights is not binding on all countries.the reason every country operates their own laws.

princfred:
Babe, am in love with how you think. Please were dey de meet people like for real life for urgent marriage lol even if na your sister abeg. Am single and searching for someone of your mental spec. I promise to be humble, hardworking, loyal and faithful if positively considered..

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@OP......Pls come and see one of your ardent followers and admirers(another lazy Nigeria youth ..lol),(the likes that want to reap where they did not sow)).openly proposing to you o,it would be nice if you can accept on time so as to take him out of his misery...LMAO!!!....abeg na joke o.

And just to add on the "stop deceiving yourself" topic. Your "I'm [b]Nigerian first before any other nationality" idea should remain here on Nairaland or in your head. By law, you are now under oath to put America first. You must have forgotten your oath during Naturalization. You swore to put America first. They didn't put a gun to your head to swear that oath. .....

You are just quoting laws out of contexts and pure display of ignorance and blind patriotism...the same America first that prohibits you from.becoming the potus,the same laws that refer to you as naturalized citizens instead of citizens by right or the same society that calls you African American instead of american??..WAKE UP!!..and stop deceiving yourself..fyi,the oath of allegiance rule is applicable to every nation that administers it.you need to explain why we have dual nationalities,infact there are some with three passports.

@theamerican,

You are not making your own thread interesting by your unnecessary emotional sentiments and it may become inactive sooner than expected and the fact you called me out says much about the direction the thread is going,though I choose to ignore.
May I remind you again,US vs NIG is NOT the focus of this thread and there"s no need going off topic,you may decide to create another with that headline.
You see,there is no such thing as alternative facts,facts are facts and that over 40millions Americans (not including undocumented) are poor with over 4% unemployment rate in a developed country are facts US vs Nig is not debatable so also is Nig vs Somalia and there was never a time i equate Nig.with US.they all have their process of developments.No point dwelling too much on this but choosing to ignore the main reason for creating your thread for another says a lot...
Since you failed to answer those few questions I asked earlier means we have little to talk.about.

Beautyaddy:
Buhahahaha!!!!


Now why did I see this coming? Now you've resulted into stooping so low by attacking because it's obvious you couldn't accept the bitter truth in my statement.

Anyways, goodluck on your Nigeria patriotism. Nigeria needs more people like you on ground full time and not part time to save it from its already sinking self.

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Oh I thought you expected a response when you first threw the first punch.it shouldn't matter much to you.
Fyi, Nigeria is not sinking a bit,it's those who have failed to make their marks that are complaining,no Country is without some challenges.
Am sure Washington broken system or drain the swamp make meaningful meanings to you...reason they opted for Trump over others.
Am a Nigerian first before any other nationality and I won't trash the formal for the latter just because am frustrated.

iRyan:
Slums? Are you kidding me!?!!? Oh please we don't have slums here in America! A typical example of a slum is Ajegunle. If you have truly traveled the length and breadth of this country, I'm pretty sure you'd understand what I am talking about...

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Hey what do you mean by "WE"..??..
Is US definition of slums different from that of nigeria??..hell no...a slum is a slum,let Google be your guide and there are many of them here as well.have you been to some parts of flint/Detroit Michigan or some south side of San Antonio TX or some inner part of harlem or in Queens NY among many others??..yeah I travel around due to my job and have been to those places..some inner cities are worse than hell.
It's seems you have been away for so long from Nigeria to notice the rapid developments going on there including the Ajegunle you mentioned.it's expected to see some type of slums in any big commercial cities anywhere in the world..not out of place at all.

Mobilia:
Wow sir...please allow me to ask a question.
You mean you have visited the most popular or largest metropolitan cites and states in the U.S.?
Really? Hmmm...very interesting.
All[b] states matter in the U.S. though....(they all have something positive to contribute to the entire nation[/b]).

I really am wondering though....
Why have Nigerians not bought into what you just wrote?
When will Nigeria be great and how long is it really gonna take?

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There are some states that are just parasites that contribute virtually nothing except for taxes paid by citizens living in those states.3 states of California, New York and Texas contribute 45% of the entire nation GDP.and funny enough these states have very large population of immigrants whereas those claiming "son of the soil" contribute virtually nothing.
Make no mistake about it,US is highly developed and without doubt the greatest and richest nation in the world but they built it.the country didn't just fall from heaven,look at China,turning their dense population into an asset,that's the point and I hope with little commitment and change in orientation,we can do it as well.it may take time but surely we will get there.

theamerican:
"People I disagree with" is not "people who disagree with me". Again, I have enjoyed our discussions. I only know about Nigeria and the U.S. as these are the only two places I have lived, that's why I Personally focus on these two countries.

I can't speak on how a Ghanaian or Mexican would feel about going to the U.S or Canada for example. Or how a Nigerian would fare in the UK or Germany, South Africa or UAE. People in those countries have been talking about them and if you notice, I've not said anything. I simply read from them and say what I know... or think I know.

Again, I apologize if the thread topic raised your expectations on what it should contain, or what should be written. I didn't even know it would get so much attention. I'll write more in my free time.

Have a good life, too. I hope you had full coverage when your SUV was stolen. Things like that aren't pleasant. God bless you.

...It was a rental car and I careless about what happened afterwards so far I was safe.I don't live in texas.

theamerican:
I will ask more precisely. If the U.S. and Nigeria stopped dual citizenships and you had to denounce one of these two, which country would you denounce? A. Nigeria B. U.S.A

As a Nigerian American, If you got stuck in a foreign land, which govt DO YOU THINK is more likely to come to your aid (I suppose, the first you'd try to reach out to) between the U.S and Nigeria? A. Nigeria B. U.S.A C. None

See? Simple. Just answer and we're good.

Just to add, when I argue with people... I learn from them. From what you wrote, I figured in the case of going to Russia, it COULD be easier going there during this coming world-cup as a Nigerian citizen. So, don't think my disagreements are attacks, I enjoy learning from people I disagree with.

I welcome completely differing opinions. I learn everyday.

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I enjoy learning from people I disagree with........i never disagreed with you,i only said you shouldn't let Nigeria be the primary focus of your thread,that's not what we want to see.i already referred you to your thread headline.
have a good life.

theamerican:
I will ask more precisely. If the U.S. and Nigeria stopped dual citizenships and you had to denounce one of these two, which country would you denounce? A. Nigeria B. U.S.A

As a Nigerian American, If you got stuck in a foreign land, which govt DO YOU THINK is more likely to come to your aid (I suppose, the first you'd try to reach out to) between the U.S and Nigeria? A. Nigeria B. U.S.A C. None

See? Simple. Just answer and we're good.

Just to add, when I argue with people... I learn from them. From what you wrote, I figured in the case of going to Russia, it COULD be easier going there during this coming world-cup as a Nigerian citizen. So, don't think my disagreements are attacks, I enjoy learning from people I disagree with.

I welcome completely differing opinions. I learn everyday.

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If you got stuck in a foreign land......this is relative,getting stuck could mean different thing but i expect both countries or none of the countries (depending on the situation) to come forward.that's the best answer to give you since i haven't been in that situation before.

theamerican:
No sir/ma'am, Answer the simple questions. My questions were simple and straightforward. Until you answer them, I choose not to bother with this discourse anymore.

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i already answered your question(s)......if you are not satisfied,let me make it very simple.....i would gladly choose my country of birth over any other country,you know why i can be president tomorrow and besides that,nobody can take away my birthright citizenship from me but my citizenship acquired through naturalization can be a subject of revocation if serious offense is committed.that is my choice and i wont blink before making such pick.

Beautyaddy:
Huh...I wont be surprised if Nig4Greatness does not answer the question.

I notice that he went on beating around the bush responding to other statements all in an attempt not to be caught deceiving himself...lol!

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i guess this is why you are where you are,your type isn't part of my audience and i have just few words for you.no need going to church or whatever because its obvious God doesn't answer prayers from hypocrites who want God to bless them where they do not sow.

@OP,

Say you travel to Japan or Saudi Arabia and you get arrested/kidnapped or whatever. As a dual citizen, which government do you think will likely come to your rescue when contacted? Nigeria or the U.S? ...

For whatever it worth,i can not be in that position for whatever reason,because when you travel to other countries and run foul of the law,you will be arrested and prosecuted and jailed if found guilty irrespective of passport you are holding(Japan and Saudi Arabia inclusive),there are many Americans in foreign jails serving their terms and the one that readily comes to mind is that of Otto Warmbier who was jailed and later died in North Korea over trumped up charges and our almighty America couldn't do anything about it.

Finally, if the U.S. and Nigeria came up with laws that prohibited dual citizenship and you're forced to choose either to be an American, or Nigerian, which citizenship would you give up? I'm curious, I really wanna know your answer...

I doubt if that situation is foreseeable but you know what,both passports serve different purposes to me and if you must know,there are some countries i don't/cant travel to with my blue passport and vice versa like am planing to be in Russia 2018 world cup if Nigeria makes it to the second round on my Nigeria passport.
Let me conclude by asking you my simple questions as well but be sincere if you must answer though,as simple as it may get,if Nigeria and united states happen to be playing against each other in a competition,who would you support?..
secondly,where do you intend to spend your retirement?..in Nigeria or remain in the US?..
Lastly,if a war should break out now,lets say a third world war,where will you be?
i guess your answers are as good as mine.

To others,nobody demands patriotism from anybody(besides,its not even the focus of this thread),but its suppose to be part of our culture naturally,that's what an average Americans do.there are countries not as good as Nigeria yet their citizens don't talk down on their countries.in my course of travelling around,what i see are products of people committed to make their countries great at all cost. ..

P.S @op, lets focus more on the purpose for this thread so we can all make meaningful contributions.this shouldn't be about Nigeria.

finestboy1:
Exactly. We will know where your true loyalty lies

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There's no point for loyalty debate here but it pains me when Nigerians don't see or talk about anything good about their country and continue to compare a developing country to a developed country.why don't we focus on where we are and forget about where we are not.
No Country is a paradise,I live in both worlds and i have visited every states or cities that matter in the US,I bet you they still have slums and developmental challenges in some areas,a country where both the young and adult have access to firearms and your safety is not guaranteed??.don't forget Puerto Rico is part of US territories and their living conditions is worse than that of nigeria,yet they didn't all moved to US mainland.
If you have not been a subject of racial abuse or discrimations means you have not gone far.my rental Suv was snatched at gunpoint on a broad day light on the street of Houston Texas two years ago.
If we contribute as much what we contribute to our adopted countries to our homeland,Nigeria would be better off.

theamerican:
Dear @Nig4greatness

I have read all your posts and I must give it to you, you are intelligent, experienced and the maturity in your all you have written has been refreshing. Thanks for trying to make your points without insulting anyone.

The thread was created to throw the question to the public: "is migrating worth the stress?". I always talk about subjectivity, and I have never stopped talking about it. I have absolutely nothing against anyone's decision to stay in Nigeria or migrate. I simply give reasons for migrating.

Now that we've got that out of the way, this is not a "how to migrate/how to become a U.S. citizen" thread. Those who have tried to ask me that have been told to visit the threads for that and/or get more info from the right places.

The "2nd class citizen" theory is one of the things I don't agree with one bit. Your rights as an American or even a legal resident/visitor can't be compared in any way, shape or form to whatever you call rights in Nigeria. People come here, go through the very complicated steps to become citizens, and when they finally get what they want, they come back to feed others with statements like "we're suffering here", "the country is overrated", "2nd class citizen", "no place like home", etc. I call them out for what they are: UNGRATEFUL HYPOCRITES!

When immigrants want to become U.S. citizens, they swear to "...renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty, of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen." If your patriotism was that strong, or if Nigeria's all that they're trying to make it, why would anyone swear this oath? Why don't they remember the suffering in the U.S., taxes, racism, high cost of living, etc. and not swear that oath?

Again, I will state this... I am NOT against anyone's decision to live in Nigeria or go elsewhere. I was in Nigeria, I didn't like it there, guess what I did? I left. Those who are here and don't like it here and think Nigeria is better can also leave. It's a free choice.

Say you travel to Japan or Saudi Arabia and you get arrested/kidnapped or whatever. As a dual citizen, which government do you think will likely come to your rescue when contacted? Nigeria or the U.S?

Finally, if the U.S. and Nigeria came up with laws that prohibited dual citizenship and you're forced to choose either to be an American, or Nigerian, which citizenship would you give up? I'm curious, I really wanna know your answer.

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Thanks all the same for your response...There's no point insulting anyone here,it's a faceless forum and there are lots of kids here as well as those witht no real life experience..they are the bunch of people you will likely find on this type of thread.
You see your thread headline is misleading or you are unknowingly derailing your own thread because you didn't focus on the subject matter.
I wanted to see what makes your life so beautiful in America,your accomplishments,your real story,experiences and all that,or is that not what memoirs is all about ??.you ahould.focus on what works in the US because thats what people back home want to see,they already know whats not working in nigeria anyway,no need reminding them again.mere focusing more on what's not working in Nigeria is abusing the purpose of the thread.
The point I try to make all along is that US vs Nigeria is a mismatch same thing you will say about Nigeria vs Burundi or Somalia.
US is first world country while Nigeria is second world where the likes of somalia are regarded as third world.while US has a budget estimate of $4T,Nigeria has $25b and the likes of somalia has like $4b....the level of developments can't be the same ..that's the point.so the same way a typical Nigerian would prefer the US over Nigeria is same way a Somali would prefer Nigeria over somalia.
In the end,simple reasoning would prevail that,if you can't be part of the solution don't be part of the problem.

Ugosample:
I just checked the links, and it validates my point

However I guess countries like Chile and Malta have our right purchase of citizenship, or citizenship after a year

I can't remember the full details, but it's something like that

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So if they ask you to bring your money in exchange for a green card,what does that means to you ??.

Ugosample:
U.K. and U.S. DO NOT SELL NATIONALITY

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They do......argue what you know.

Ugosample:
To you, the definition of success is to have a lot of money

not bad


but not everyone thinks like that

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@Ugo,
I never said success is all about money,but money at times is a measure of success,ask dangotes of this world.meanwhile there are different level of success in life but survival (food,clothing,shelter) isn't one of them.

philip0906:
The op NEVER painted a fantasy she only stated the obvious. Here's a quote from her post;

"...Don't get me wrong, there is no perfect place on earth. I can list the issues in other countries too, the gun violence in the US, racism, high cost of living, etc. but a working system is a working system. If you get the opportunity to travel and you blend with the system and follow rules, you won't regret it unless your expectations are crazy and unrealistic..."

She also added this;

" I want to state here, life abroad is NOT for everyone. Some people will go and fail to adapt/succeed, some people enjoy how things are in Nigeria and are happy with what they're facing. I have nothing against anyone's decisions. I'm not looking down on anyone and their choices in life."


Lol...since it's no longer Green would you mind burning it or least discard it?

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Funny you,I don't hold green card...I hold blue passport.do you know some of these Americans do envy some of us with dual passports??.
It's okay my brother,the US is a beautiful place and I always encourage those around me to visit or otherwise if they have that strong conviction but not because Nigeria is bad..Nigeria can only get better,remember it's our collective responsibility to make it a better place for us and for the next generation.may God bless my motherland

philip0906:
You are desperately trying to paint Nigeria in a good light going as far as claiming "MOST OF THE THINGS YOU WROTE THERE ARE HAPPENING IN THOSE COUNTRIES YOU DREAM OF ".So the American political elite loot their treasury to the detriment if it's citizenry and the other issues I highlighted there No Country is eutopia but trying to put the United States and Nigeria on the same pedestal, is an insult on people's intelligence.

Lol...Millionaires bla bla bla. Here's what you said up there "i ask people what SUCCESS means to them,am sure it means different things depending on their situations ".
So you think it's everyone who wants to be "millionaires"? You think that is the reason why everyone is bailing out? At least, you should learn from your own words
With your green card on one hand, you are aiming for the Nigerian millionaire status on the other hand. Smart you . A lot of us also have that same plan. Let us be. What is good for you, should also be good for all. A green card and the Nigerian millionaire status

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Am sure you comprehended my comments above in a reversed mode ,I never said don't travel to anyone but I was only saying don't think of travel because of survival that the street of abroad is not painted with gold,the kind of fantasy the op was trying to pass across.in the 5level human hierarchy of needs,survival is at level one and if that's what success mean to you,well good luck on that,obviously we don't have much in common.
Someone rightly said earlier,even the physical green card as its called no longer green in colour again.lol.
Fyi, I didn't travel based on survival.am still young man and am affecting my world positvely..that's one of my purposes in life.

Sharonose:
enough guys! Travel if u want or stay back...it's a small world,75years from now we are all gone...do Wat makes you happy and mind your business...

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SIMPLE!!!....for whatever it worths,survival shouldn't be a reason.point made!!!.

Ugosample:
Nigeria no be better country

Full stop.


I get you are trying to be patriotic and all, but the truth is a truth


the op castigating the country is out of annoyance and frustration.

The level of ignorance I see in Nigeria is kind boggling

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The truth is the truth...sure but there's a saying in IT world like GIGO.....(garbage in garbage out).it's a simple natural law of success,whatever you sow you reap.
No Country can produce more than what her citizens sowed into it.when the country is bad,let's accept responsibility and work it right and stop blaming the leaders or elites who are also products of the same societies.

philip0906:
Lol...You are indeed an American. You have lost touch with happenings here. Let me brief you

1. For donkey years, the elite have run ragged the treasury. They have looted at will, are still looting and will still loot. Billions and billions of dollars unaccounted for.
2. As a result of the above, the common man doesn't trust the political elite.Will you blame them for resisting a hike in land use charge? After working his butt off, he will now be charged monies that would only be looted back and you expect him to keep paying?
3. Every economists out there knows that for Nigeria to attain these lofty heights, more investment has to be made. The problem is, while the state of Georgia judiciously uses its monies, the sh.it hole called Nigeria misuses it's "little earnings" via looting,mismanagement and gross nepotism. Little wonder, 60 years after, Nigerians are still shouting UP NEPA. The country can barely generate 6000 megawatts.
4. Many well thinking Nigerians who have decided to effect change in their own little way, are frustrated by either the political structure they have no control and power over. They are frustrated by ethnic and tribal bigots. They are frustrated by religious extremists whose allegiance is to their religion than the common good of Nigeria.
5. The reasons above are the exact reasons, why smart ones are bailing out.

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Most of the things you wrote out there are happening in those countries you dream about,so no system is perfect and no Country can provide adequate quality life for her citizens....the type you seek.there are many poor Americans too.
Make no mistake about it,the smart ones are those making things happen in Nigeria while the desperate ones bailing out as you said are those crying for survival.
Meanwhile,I spent most of my time in Nigeria as am currently doing and know everything that goes around there.
Remain there and keep complaining while the country keep making millionaires by the day.

The Senate is yet to explain to the nation why his deputy cannot represent him after all NPF is an organisation and not a one man force.

Ugosample:
Those at the power rung of the ladder in Nigeria are even third class citizens, then those who are fooling themselves saying that they are "middle class" are the second class citizens.

the "first class citizens are the business and political elite, and those close to them.




Is it not Nigeria that I grew up in again?

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If.you feel so,that's how other citizens in other countries feel.so.too.

philip0906:
Oh please! Same tale our corrupt elite hawk around. When did China' rise to industrial, economic, political dominance begin? We were faring better than them in the 70s.
When did the UAE begin building the Dubai, Abu Dhabi and other emirate cities that have become the wonder of the world architecture,infrastructure and economic wise? Nigeria was faring better than the UAE in all indexes in the 70s.


Lol...but at least you were smart to have gotten the Green card FIRST. Let those that want to go get the green card just like you did, then we'll all come back together and build Nigeria.


Na so. Second class citizen indeed. We hear that alot. Here in Nigeria, first class citizens are being owed salaries months on months, herdsmen are chasing and killing, SARS and police are shooting young boys, Men in the armed forces are shooting boys protesting in the east aside the innocent civilians already been beaten on an almost daily basis...I can go on and on

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Point of correction....I never discouraged people from leaving but the question is for what purpose??...because the country is bad??...hell no,its because we don't want to play by the rules.every country pass through a transition and I was glad you mentioned china.go and read China rise to freedom and learn more if we are never closer to what they did.
Yeah the advantage I got from.being an American is the freedom I get to travel anywhere in the world period.I run same business in nigeria and United States and I make bold to say I make more money in Nigeria than I do in the US.
Let me share this,every time I file my tax returns in nigeria,those Irs guys will ask me to manipulate the figures and tip them.so they can wipe it off for me in their system.....and many more like that....and you want the country to progress??.hear this sgain,the operating budget of Nigerian with close to 200million in population with less than 40% implementation is N8T (about $25b) which is less than that of poor state of Georgia with just 10million in population and you want rapid development??.a particular government introduced a mere land use charge and all hell broke loose and yet you want development??.this hypocrisy has to stop sooner.
My personal msg to the OP is not to castigate and run down her home country because her adopted country is doing better than the former.
The last time I check,there's are still places in the US without proper telephone and network services.

Ugosample:
When I hear stuff like second class citizen, I just laugh


Except you are among the political or business elite in Nigeria, you are a second class Nigerian citizen in Nigeria.

Cross their path, and your eye go clear.


The most important tho is to find fulfilment in Life, because one day you will die.

Nigeria is not ready for development, as much of the population still have tgeur mentality stuck in the stone age, And there is a price for development, a price must Nigerians are not willing to pay.

As for me o, th six months in Nigeria and six months outside that I have designed for myself suits me.
overtime it will be 3 months Nigeria anf 9 months outside

ultimately, when the stuff im working on is complete, i don move completely be that.


Those in Nigeriashould develop Nigeria, I'm okwith my second class status

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My brother,been a second class citizen is easy on paper but tough in practice and accepting such status now depends on your purpose in life as you rightly mentioned.
Talking about Nigeria,if you think the country is underdeveloped,please who is to blame.....the citizens or the leaders ??.

theamerican:
I can't count the number of times I have rolled my eyes, laughed, smiled and left my mouth open with surprise after reading a lot on this thread so far. It's been an eye opener.

This is why during visa interviews, they sometimes ask if the applicant has ever traveled out of the country and ask where. Blind patriotism will be out the window once a first-timer walks out of JFK airport in Newyork and sees the difference between a developed country and where they are coming from lol.

Despite being here for what seems like ages now, I still visit some parts of the country and get wowed like a first timer. Nigerians complain about paying taxes abroad, they never talk about what the tax payers' money have done to the level of development (infrastructure) or that at the start of the year, people get back some of their taxes to do whatever they want. I got $9k as my tax return in March.

When you hear "Million", you think it's a fortune lol. Well, I hope people's dreams come true and they survive wherever they choose to be. I'm glad fate smiled upon me and sent me here and made all my dreams come true. It remains the best thing to happen to me. God bless America.

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@OP, congratulations once again on your accomplishment so far but i asked few questions earlier which you ignored for whatever reason but i thought its just a normal thing for you to give a detail introduction of yourself so your audience,at least those you are trying to reach can see something to run with.i indicated my intention to comment where necessary as well.
That being said,i ask people what SUCCESS means to them,am sure it means different things depending on their situations and to an average white american,the word AMERICAN DREAM means different thing to them as it does an immigrant especially coming from Africa as I noticed the phrase has been thoroughly abused and used out of context.
to the OP, i understand how excited you are by achieving that dream of being an america citizen and you cant wait to share it to those that care to listen but hey,when you try to advise or encourage people to abandon their (God forsaken)home country and move to a foreign land without giving a clear cut pathways on how to accomplish that decision is unfair,at least the tread you created i assume is to be for that purpose.
to rest your curiosity,i am an AMERICAN by all standard and also a full bloodied Nigerian and my loyalty is to my home country and as well to my my adopted country.i own businesses in both countries so i can relate very well on any subject matters.
you see,you cant compare the US with Nigeria because they didn't start the same time,US is over 240yrs in existence whereas Nigeria is just less than 60yrs, forget the issue of corruption,there is corruption in every system but american citizens stayed and sacrificed a lot for their country,the place every one is dreaming to be now.please get to the library close to you and rent or watch these documentaries/movies may be it makes some meaning to you (1.the war that made america,2.who we are as an Americans,3.Obama america)(they are US govt properties).If we put half of efforts we put in here in our home country,Nigeria would have been a better place.
No matter what you become,you are still a second class citizen way different from what you are called in your home country.once again,lets engage on this issue and some others as this will educate and encourage your audience in their decision making.
@bolded, are you married with kids and what kind of job you do that would offer you that much in refunds?,you see these stuffs are things your audience need to know,taking them through the process and not just the result.as far as i know,government receive more in tax refund that they pay out.so don't think its just a simple Christmas largesse.

P.S i sent you a pm so as to caution(as i noticed you are still new on the forum) the kind of figures you throw around,there are american citizens on this forum,US government officials and even IRS operatives,so you know.

khiaa:
Yes, I heard of it.

.....OK good to know.will send you mail.
Have a good day.

khiaa:
Explain!!!

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Haba!!..only asked if you know the place.