₦airaland Forum

@ Davidylan

this is irrelevant drivel that does nothing to address the REAL ISSUES which i find islamic goons like you always like to skirt around.
There is no beating about the bush that Nigeria was a FAR BETTER nation under colonial rule than now. There is no beating about the bush that Eastern region was the fastest growing economy in the world and Nigeria was ranked higher than all the Asian giants under colonial rule.

Since Nigeria came under this heinous northern hegemony, we have clearly become a banana nation . . . ordinary Ghana should be a wake up call but clearly not to hypocrites like you who cry "hell no" to the suggestion that the US colonises Nigeria but PREFER TO RESIDE PERMANENTLY IN THAT SAME USA ANYWAY!

If you love Nigeria so much why dont you leave the USA and go back? What are you doing here?

I hope you're joking.

In the event that you aren't, please supplement your assertions with statistical proof of this so called development (education, infrastructure, life expectancy, etc) pre 1960.

Choco5:
This fool is not even in Nigeria!

I wonder oooooo.

How are we not sure that this is going to be a reason why Nigeria, like Iraq and Afghanistan, will have to just make do with America's invasion? You know, to show Nigeria how democracy runs and restore a sense of security for all peace-minded people of the world?

Ho, ho ho, Merry Christmas y'all.

gshyne:
@ DAOweb
i wasnt comparing if u look properly u ll see i was replyin to cvibe's comment. I'm no  authority on the IBRUs or the source of their wealth but i grew up knowing the IBRU family to be wealthy and influential. If the IBRUs own Oceanic Bank and the Bank invests in properties anywhere in the world are these properties not indirectly owned by the IBRUs? hence all i'm sayin is acquiring the properties by the IBRUs is possible. make sense?

I agree

BTW, Donald Trump has just about the same net worth as Richard Branson, and we know how trump goes with respect to real estate - they are his business, I admit, but for perspective's sake


Anyway, does not detract from madam ibru's shortcomings.

Isn't she a billionaire though? Not playing the devil's advocate, but 28 houses in dubai (no one said anything about size or worth of those houses - for all we know they could be in the "ghetto" areas  ) isn't far fatched considering her before before wealth. Hollywood stars with less money are known for such excesses too.

Better half a loaf of bread than none.

I applaud their efforts, no matter how trivial and stupid Nairaland geniuses label them.

honeric01:
Who should be banned? the quoted or the quoter?

The quoter - Mr/Mrs. Aryan Nordicrace. His/her posts are scary.

NordicRace:
this is modern time slavery, when he was useful to them, they exploited him, now that they have more young and vibrant "slaves" coming to their country, they want to dispose the old and tired ones. A leopard will never change its spot. (BRITAIN)


NO ONE IS FORCING YOU TO COME TO BRITAIN. NO ONE IS BRINGING NIGERIANS HERE IN CHAINS.

This dude/dudette should be banned.

These are the same people that will say that tall sky scrapers are not synonymous with development.

Make up your mind, Nigeria bashers.

I've seen this story before - all the details sound very familiar (university, over 100 men, only 6 used condoms, etc). Ha - but it was set in the University of Nairobi, Kenya.

Na Wa ooooo. Soon it will turn to urban legend.

She's not bad-looking. She could stand to lose a few pounds though.

H2O2:
Then why not just type rаpe

If I could, I would. I can't, unlike you.

Case in point: despoil.

Lawlz.

Or Nairaland posters. Whatever.

For me right now, it's the word "rape."

Aha, I was thinking that I was imagining things.

Rape instead of r-a-p-e?

Rape

Rape

It's sad and unfortunate, and of course I wish recovery  

He has to help himself though - stepping down and taking a break. For his health, if not anything else.

I'd butt in here and state that quantitative factors (source of revenue, budget deficits, etc) mean little without the "right mindset" - by the government and the people.

We shouldn't undermine the importance of privatization and strategic businesses - and by that i don't mean mere commerce or business as a means to get today's profits, but business as a prelude to problem solving and the deliverance of meaningful services.

We also cannot forget the importance of holding Nigeria in esteem. The burden rests on all parties and stakeholders involved if public funds are to be used correctly. All stakeholders = the government and the people. More so on the people, because the government is made up of Nigerian citizens. Funny thing is, I estimate that a majority of Nigerians not in government would do exactly what the PDP has been doing for years given the opportunity. Our mentality is rock bottom corrupt. lol.

As much as Nairaland loooooooves to piss on the rebranding issue,  I'm happy Akunyili brought it up in the first place. There's a quite a bit that a few mantras and affirmation can do in regards to spurring some positive action. Somewhere at the very least.

Also, why do we seize every opportunity to skew all positive achievements in a negative direction? The cliche holds true - respect yourself and others will respect you. Let's try to celebrate the little each nation accomplishes in terms of development. Encouragement and enthusiasm for more does more than negative backlash. It's almost like repeatedly reminding a struggling addict or child of his or her failures despite some attempt (however little) at improvement. Doesn't solve matters much.

The so-called leaders who bend over for IMF, World Bank, and G8 nations to screw don't help matters either.

The Ideal African and Nigerian - a problem solver with just enough guts, ethics, vision and talent. Does this person exist? Am I even this person? Are you? If only 88% of us at least were like this, haha. In our dreams.

Well, ~3 more years to 2012.

[quote author=Negro_Ntns link=topic=86565.msg4849161#msg4849161 date=1257192742]It seems almost everyone is fascinated by towering skyscrapers and winding causeways as a sign of development. Those structures cost a fortune per square inch. . . the money to build and maintain it must come from some yet-to-be allocated fund. Without increasing tax levy, without pinching on already scarce domestic funds. . . we need to go find some sucker somewhere in foreign land that will pay for it. Its called foreign land exploitation.[/quote]Aren't tall buildings and skyscrapers indicative of some kind of development? If they are beautiful and well maintained, it must mean that the thus sheltered businesses are flourishing, employees (the people) are thus paid and provided some amenities, the maintainers are gainfully employed. Towering heights indicate tycoon presence, with expansions in other areas of the country/neighboring countries, along with people-focused benefits.

On the subject of maintenance - well, better we try than not try at all in the first place.

It doesn't have to be 100% doom and gloom.

On the subject of dreams and reality, any one a fan of Joel Barker?

I agree with the poster that mentioned Miss Nigeria's carriage - her face slightly above average, and she has elegant shoulders, a tall frame (even without being notably tall) and a "classier" look than the other girls. The face looks older but I figure that it contributes to the whole elegant thing. The dress sucks though, and I can point out more attractive and beautiful contestants. Miss Namibia and Miss swaziland are cute .

michelin89:
To say majority of Africans looks like her is far fetched. Although I think she isn't the best looking actress around I still give her kudos for standing up among all the supposedly beautiful ones.

Anyways I must warn her about her increasing weight. We are giving her kudos now but may she nor fall our hands.

It is not - at least in West Africa. And, what is wrong if we look like that? I certainly do not think she's ugly. In fact, I'm willing to bet that she'd be certified a "dime piece" if she had light skin and light eyes because her facial features aren't so bad - her skin color is the turn off for some people, and as this is an African forum, I find that sad.

THE AMAKA:
i hate when africans call other africans monkeys.
was that even needed?
get a grip on yourself.

sheesh.

My dear this is part of the reason why I don't really engage in these topics. Mercy Johnson is an "ugly monkey" because she looks just like the majority of us, who, on average, think we are wowo. She's an actress who delivers and a philanthropist, but I guess no one cares because of her "ugly" looks. lol at people.

Ex Inferis:
D9 is a darn good movie, one of the very few "real" alien movies. sure, nigerians were portrayed in a less than stellar way. so? all sorts of people do get portrayed in unsavory ways; it doesnt mean thats how they are. anyone seen cannibal holocaust?

besides, really the things some nigerians do when abroad is demeaning, demumanizing, degrading, and downright unacceptable. this is fact.

ok, so nigerians are portrayed as prostitutes; arent some nigerian ladies prostituting in most of europe and south africa?

so nigerians are portrayed as blackmarket operators; arent some nigerians engaged in shady business activities, even here on the mothership?

so nigerians are portrayed as cannibals; arent we deliberately perpetuating that image when the bulk of our home videos are rife with rituals and occultic tendencies involving severed limbs, blood and gore, juju, and enough witchcraft and wizardy to shame Hogwarts? and we think its clever artform!

is south africa any less showing us what they think of us, as a reflection of what some of us do?

Arabs are constatntly handed down the shorter end of the hollywood stick when the myth of the global jihadist/terrorist is given the silver screen expose. it doesnt mean all arabs are terrorists, but some definitely are. but if you accept hollywood urban legends as fact, then its easy to surmise all arabs are baby killers.

and not all germans were nazis either. and not all jews are shysters though most of them are schmucks.

for long we've been entertained at the expense of others, now its our turn.

people, its just a movie, for crying out loud. if you believe the south african government and people actually do mean thats all we are, then you might as well believe in the movie's aliens. at least they are a damn sight more real.

you schmucks.

OMG. Masochists, we are.

proudly9ja:
A thing that a lot of us do not understand is that the bad image Nigeria is getting is affecting us Nigerians and it will get worse! Infact if anyone should be rebranding, I think it is Nigerians all around the world themselves. Its like a family name with a bad name, it is those who bear the name that have the responsibility to 'rebrand' it.

Im surprised that people laugh at Dora's effort to rebrand the country. I am not in support of her methods either but I cannot be against someone who is trying to change the attitude of foreigners towards me. We know government we have is crazy, but should we continue to allow that to affect us? Nigerians all around the world are working hard to make a name for themselves but they have to work 4 times harder because of the name Nigeria. People eye us with suspicious eyes. As Nigerians, it affects us every where we go.

This BBC documentary does us more bad that good. We may be laughing at Dora but she is the information minister, she was NAFDAC head, her children are prolly in best schools in the world and don't have to work as hard as some of us. The bad name almost does not affect her. She goes around with a diplomatic passport, she is not subjected to crazy and funny searches at airports. We are the ones who suffer all this rubbish.

Whichever way, whether in support of Dora or not, we need rebranding. In reality, The news spurned by the western media is much more magnified than it really is.

An example: Everywhere I go, my friends ask me if the 'war' in Nigeria is over and I ask them which war? Their response is the Niger Delta war and I tell them its just with a small region and its not even in the scale of what we will call war. I don't blame them for this, its the news the media gives to them that they will believe.

My thoughts have never been more concisely put. God bless you, whoever you are.

POSAKOSA1:
Are you insinuating that Nigerians are not entrepreneurial ?

Never made such an insinuation. I was giving a suggestion for other posters who complained about lack of jobs for private university graduates.

Dereformer:
Establishing these Universities creates more jobs in itself. Aren't there going to be Academic and Non-Academic staff of the Universities? The problem is not in the number of universities or the non-availability of jobs in the country. The problem is in the quality of graduates we produce in Nigeria. Believe me, if we turn out well tutored and trained graduates- even if there is no job in the country-they can take up good jobs outside the country. Have u ever wondered why a first class graduate in Nigeria cannot even be offered a clerk's job in America or United kingdom?

I was also going to add - private universities could also place emphasis on entrepreneurship with relevant classes and such. You don't have to major in business to get that. In honest, the more graduates open private practices - in business, journalism, accounting, education, catering, etc - the better for everyone.

Let's be honest with ourselves. Look at the state of Nigeria as a country and the potential of Nigerian youths - in general. Look at our universities. Our high schools. 

Yes we have intelligent people but they are only the outliers, I'm afraid. I totally agree with this study. If our children are not brought up to live in fear of authority, be it at home or in school, then maybe our dysfunctions might change for better.

Truth is bitter.

EDIT: I should clarify some things here. When I say spanking, i mean the thrashing and physical torture that we've come to associate with discipline. Not one-two-three smacks on the butt or arm.