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OMO IBO:
even though the source of his wealth is questionable most Nigerians would easily turn a blind eye to this.
I dont think NIgerians are particularly bothered with what you have and how you spend your money as long as you are doing your job judiciously.
there's no doubt his job will come with some perks here and there.

I'll give you an example. The former Governor of Lagos State Buba Marwa will most prolly go down as the best thing that ever happened to lagos state. But guess what, he launched his Airline months after leaving office. I dont remember anyone raising a voice in this regards

In a nutshell, Nigerians just want to know that you are doing your job and doing it well. What you get out of it really may not matter.

uhmn. . . . . . i dont know what to say . . . . _{cos i m afraid wat u said is actually true but shouldnt be the case.}

@ Topic

I tink the relevant debate here should be that under normal circumstances does soludo deserve a second term. . . . . my take is NO
but this aint normal times, very irrational appointments have been made so far by those who call the shots in this administration. their choice of replacement will definitely be a disaster.

It beats me u know. . . . , .all d gospel we hear today are about financial freedom and posperity while relegating the fear and teachings of God. Above all, lack of love among the brethren who are called the body of Christ is the biggest weapon the enemy is using to wage war against the church.

its amazing that d poster can only throw names around to run for president.
and what would they do wen they get to power?
same way nigerians vouched for an ill prepared yaradua.

medube:
What is still baffling me up till now is, not one of the Man U fans have said well done Liverpool, well played Common guys, accept the defeat in good spirit and congratulate the victors because whether we like it or not, they did beat the living daylights out of you.  1-2 is a win, 1-3 is a win, but 1-4, that's surely a beating. AND, let's not forget the AND in the so called Theater of Dreams E be like say Freddie Kreuger visited that theater before the match and filled it up with NIGHTMARES 

no mind them. . . . , they r a bunch of _proud loosers

davidylan:
My thinking has changed over the past few yrs since i put up this thread.

Is the black man inherently inferior?

cant bliv u said that, . .

tkb417:
i didnt see this bit. This guy is just waking up from a year slumber

Arsenal win UCL? uve been consulting a dentist for malaria symptons
u berra see a G.P b4 u die of ur sickness.

lol. . . . .na like dream it go b.

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=226259.msg3597532#msg3597532 date=1237060364]Really?? There's a striking resemblance between you geezers
Y'all guys have the same ailment: Diarrhoea of the mouth!!! [/quote]some SHEPE will b of help for u . . , . . .cos u r really bitter. . . . . .pele

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=226259.msg3597473#msg3597473 date=1237059291]Yet another depraved rabbit.
Doyin13, u don't need another moniker to make your points. [/quote]this aint doyin 13

Cristalz:
noetic as much as you would like to think that was a piece to be happy about.  .  .it's delusional, reeks of dementia and an acute lack of cranial co-ordination, crappy, oops sorry, shitty, and downright irritating.

Go play with an alley cat

i can understand ur bitterness. . . . .  .

just like that. . . , their season crumbled.
just like that the untouchables were touched. . . smashed. . . .humiliated and devoured.
just like that their dreams faded. . . .the quintriple dream of the red devils or WOman united.

like lucifer did, they fumbled, they yelled exhibiting pride.

who can play better?, . they boasted!!!
who can beat us?. . . . . .they yelled!!!
who is better then fergie?. . . . they asked!!!
we are the untouchables. . . . . they proclaimed!!!!
we will win 5 trophies . . . . . . . , . they screamed!!!!

and like it happened in heaven, a lightening struck.
Liverpool looked at them and said. . . .u have fumbled in ur heart . , today u will be humbled.
and verily like liverpool said, four goals came calling and the mighty red devils fell and were cast away from all their title hopes.

mark my words. . . . . .ur season has ended.
u r going from defeat to defeat. . , . . . up GUNNERS . . . . FA cup and Champions League top contenders.

just like that. . . , their season crumbled.
just like that the untouchables were touched. . . smashed. . . .humiliated and devoured.
just like that their dreams faded. . . .the quintriple dream of the red devils or WOman united.

like lucifer did, they fumbled, they yelled exhibiting pride.

who can play better?, . they boasted!!!
who can beat us?. . . . . .they yelled!!!
who is better then fergie?. . . . they asked!!!
we are the untouchables. . . . . they proclaimed!!!!
we will win 5 trophies . . . . . . . , . they screamed!!!!

and like it happened in heaven, a lightening struck.
Liverpool looked at them and said. . . .u have fumbled in ur heart . , today u will be humbled.
and verily like liverpool said, four goals came calling and the mighty red devils fell and were cast away from all their title hopes.

mark my words. . . . . .ur season has ended.
u r going from defeat to defeat. . , . . . up GUNNERS . . . . FA cup and Champions League top contenders.

the best is yet to come . . . , up gooners

davidylan:
Many politicians glibly tell us that the 'problem' of Nigeria are the twin devils of "Corruption" and "Bad Leadership" yet with each change of guard, things have gone progressively from bad to worse. Nigeria has been "independent" for 45 years and yet remains an elephant with two heads, one marching resolutely in the direction of 5th century Arabia and the other heading towards the grandeur of capitalist Europe and the New World.

What do you think the "problem" of Nigeria is? Can it be solved? Are we truly a "republic" and a "federal" state?

Is this "contraption" called Nigeria feasible as the future hope of the black race?

I still dont know why anyone tinks nigeria has a problem. because the countries i know that have a problem they have always responded with costly revolutions that brings about positive results after personal sacrifices for national good has been made.

while not digressing ur topic or the issue u raised. I tink nigerians are very comfortable with the status quo.

No mass protests, no revolutions, no resistance of rigging, no bastardization of the rogues who stole from the national treasury to accumulate wealth and the continuous celebration and idolizing of those who robbed the masses by the church and traditional institutions are signs that we are very comfortable with whatever "problems" u tink we have.

nigeria is just fine.

nuzo:
Nigerians lie in "god's" name.
Worst is that they kill in "god's" name.

that is the unfortunate part.

bilms:
are u guys going to crusify me.

i only said what i saw.

cheers

no one can crucify you. and pls dont divulge any more information.

let every man believe whatever he chooses to.

courage89:
Posting this piece does not mean i'm supporting Atiku 2011 presidency. I came across the information, and i thought it will be nice to share it with NL's

ur post suggested otherwise. forgive my attack.

atiku is a no-no.

[quote author=i_laugh link=topic=244490.msg3561567#msg3561567 date=1236462641]Every stupid person is now an analyst.[/quote]forgive the guy, he is entitled to his ranting. . . . after all this is democracy.

@poster
only in ur dreams will atiku bcom president. It is ideologically impossible because considering his antecedents he can never win a free and fair election.

and in Nigeria where there is nothing called free and fair election, it will take a miracle to defeat an incumbent president. I strongly believe that from next year to d elections, yara will show his true colours.

atiku ko, turaki ni.

amen

they both failed considering the enormous resources and power at their disposal.

since none of them made the pass mark, there is absolutely no point debating who was better.

lol. . , . this must be an intreastin thread. . . . . . i wonder y there has been no reponse. . , .

and y is ur blog filled with just tinubu stories. . . . . .ur intentions and sponsors are not too hard to know. . . .

ElRazur:
Again I am merely defending common sense here and am not in anyway Pro or Anti anything. I suggest you look up on my few posts I have made on the short time I registered here.

Please point tell me which of these leaders have made decision that blows in their face and can be directly linked to their poor health issues? Or you are going to make a baseless claims and present it as fact? Boris Yeltsin was always appearing to be drunk, but he still managed to run Russia and never did I remember him making a bad judgement as a result of his alleged alcohol problem.

what are u saying?

poor health is only a factor if your performance in noting to write home about, like the case of yaradua here. And u seem to be a bad student of history though, otherwise you should know that Boris Yeltsin was drunk when he declared a military invasion on Chechnya and that led to his eventual downfall.

Dude we have no idea what is wrong with the president [ that is if anything is wrong with him in the first place]  until them it will be simply unnecessary to make bold claim as to what he is suffering from. Now on second thought, if he is suffering from liver/kidney problem. You do realise people suffering from such condition can live a fairly normal lifestyle that over all have no hindrances on their Mental judgement whatsoever? If in doubt have a look up on dialysis machine and what it does for the patient.

u seem to be contradictin urself here. the question is why does yaradua have a problem with giving full disclosures of health?
he is a public officer, the chief representative of the people who in normal circumstances is accountable to the people. why dos he have to degenerate to the extent of threatening the media with publishing his pictures.

Now you want go quoting people's right and what not. Yet you forget that the president have the bigger right to keep his health affairs private. Here, please scan and upload your payslip here. At least I have the right to know how much you are earning, No?

u sound so uninformed. no public officer has such right, it is called the people,s right to know and accountability.
and you have no right to see my payslip because I am a private citizen, not a public citizen and not accountable to u.

Again I am telling you what I told the Blacksta - The alleged condition do not in any way have an impact on how he runs the country. It just goes to show the back ward mentality my people have toward people they consider "disable". So what if he is limping on both legs? He do not make decisions with his legs but with his advisors and his brains for crying out loud.

to an extent u are right. but i choose to disagree, this guy has failed in all known ramifications yet he is portrayed as an intellectual, one can only deduce from this that his inhibiting factor is his health.
if u know of a better reason y he is not performing pls share it with us.

Please point me to a link where the press in the UK talked about the Jaw of Gordon brown.

are u in the uk?
the number one object of jest in the uk media is gordon brown. . . . . . .no big deal
and he does not restrain the press from detailing everything concerning his private life because he understands and appreciate the essence of accountability.

and what was this thread intended for

nice one

jagunlabi:
Actually,"I am that i am" is neither a name nor even a title.

that depends on who is doing the analyses. . . . .cos in literal terms that name contains all titles u want GOD to b 4 u, .

its quite simple and also complex.

Destiny is a pre-ordained sequence of events by God. It however contains choices that the destined needs to make. They include the choice of life or death,
salvation or otherwise.

Destiny involves the height one can attain in life. And perhaps the process involved.


For Xtians its not more of destiny but prophecy, as d Lord reveals what he is doing, about to do or will do at several points in our lives.

thats how the permutations begin. . . , , . i dont c anytin or anone stoppin him from his second term. . . .

leave the poor girl alone. . . . . the obasanjo tag is enough shame already

Kobojunkie:
It is not up to me. It is up to you and I to decide if this will work in Nigeria or not. So far, I repeat, we have NOT TRIED to make it work, so there is no way to judge whether it will work or not based on the fact that we have YET TO apply it effectively in order to rightly judge either way. Let us stop ignoring the main beauty of democracy which is the fact that it is government for THE PEOPLE by THE PEOPLE. Anything thing else is secondary to this in my opinion!

I dont want to think our difference in opinion is as a result of me misunderstanding ur points of view, rather its as a result of the contradictions in ur postulations.
you advocate for a revolution by the people taking power away from their neo-colonialist oppressors, yet u also postulate that this oppressors be the agents of the change from the revolution. This doesn't add up. is there something I am missing?

I do agree with u about the main beauty of democracy being the people, the issue however is how the people will take their rightful place in the nigerian version of democracy. your analyses about these sound very vague, inconsequential and impracticable. . . . . .break it down to simpler terms.

Unless you can prove me wrong with detailed factual information on these approaches, my statement stands. I don’t want conjecture, neither do I want theories. Please provide facts to support your statement.

on what account do you write the legal pronouncements that re-instated ladoja as govenor? or the pronouncement that made amaechi govenor?
or the over 10 victories atiku secured via the courts prior to the elections? did these judgements not go a long way in strengthening the nigerian version of democracy?
the legal constitutional challenges continuously championed by the likes of gani and falana, do they not constitute to positive approaches to making a better nation?

Arthur Nzeribe?  Sigh!!  Sounds like you think we all consider his cause ours. But I will ask you simple and direct questions here.
a) What were his reasons for attempting to impeach Obasanjo?
b) Did he say he was doing it for the people and democracy or was he just doing the usual we have always seen in that country?

uhmn. . . . .
did u not talk about using legislators to make a demand for good governance by calling for the impeachment of the power mongers?
was nzeribe not a legislator? or are those who replaced him better than him? or are u justifying the well known failures of obj?
like u advised me. . . .  .be consistent in ur analyses too.

c) Isn’t claiming that Nzeribe and the likes fought for justice in a democracy the same as saying that the reason Buhari, and Atiku filed petition against Yar adua’s presidency was to save democracy?

regardless of anyone's antecedents. As far as Nigeria is concerned whenever anyone challenges the status quo legally they are enriching the democratic process. . . .their intentions or ingenuity is anoda issue entirely.

d) How many of the Nigerian populace put their weight behind any of those mentioned so far?
e) Don’t you see that in your own very statement on Nzeribe and naaba, you reveal that this was not really about the Nigerian people but these men and their agenda?

Can we please stop confusing one thing with another here? Sigh!

whatever their agenda was they found it impossible to impeach an incumbent president. . . . . I dont see legislators backed by your advocated revolutionaries impeaching Yaradua.

It is easy to assume to know what will happen before one actually takes the step to act. How you definitively tell me that it is 100% that if Nigerian people stand up against the current situation in that country, that there cause will be a failure? How many of those will be willing to manipulate the judiciary when at Nigerian people are watching, keen eyed?

I have always been an advocate of the Nigerian people standing up to fight for themselves, but not through the main pillars of the problem, the political class, amongst whom are the present crop of legislators you seem to have so much faith in.

where the Nigerian people blind when the supreme court said yara won d elections?
or where we all blind when the agents of state victimised ribadu?

steps to pull the nation out of the grave will only work if the propagators of the problem are not used as advocates of change in the new era.

That tells us of nothing but the fact that they see the Nigerians people for what we have been all this while. . . . a population of docile people too weak to fight for their own rights.  Knowing the people have no confidence in you does not stop these from pissing down your back; knowing the people will fight back does.

i quite agree. . . . .what I don't agree with is how u propose the people fight back.

By getting up as a people and demanding change and actually acting to ensure you get it.

did u say demand? demand based on what?. . . . . lobbying?. . . . , coercing?. . . . .appealing?. . . . .begging or what?
demand has to be made but not by lobbying tru legislators, but by a determined and constructive approach that does not condone violence, neither does it allow shallow compromises . A demand like the Thais made, like the Indians under Gandhi's leadership and the south Africans with nelson Mandela.
. . . . not cowardice nor lobbying

I am so glad not all Nigerians state above. I am watching as yet another group of Nigerians from abroad are organizing themselves to ensure that things function in Nigeria even better than they do in the west and you are busy offering me the above for reason why inaction is your goal? Sigh!

I will not be surprised though if many Nigerians hold a contrary view. . . . it probably explains y we r in a mess.
You however need to give a concrete example of a bill or policy that was a product of people demanding for change in Nigeria. do u remember all the clamour for the FOI bill by the general public? where did all that end?

Always the case or just the case for those who want to wait for someone to add an identity to their cause?

again u are wrong. . . . .a cause without a face or voice to propagate its message is meaningless.
you still havent told me of a revolution without a leader.
My concept of a leader has notin to with the present crop of political class, but amongst the revolutionary group of common people standing up for the country.

Actually, it starts with each person making himself the leadership figure in the move for change. Look around you, cause after cause have had a people and not a PERSON, moving together towards a common goal.

and they probably have no leader right?

I do not agree with that though.
There are more than a thousand non-violent ways to see change in Nigeria. We do not have to shut down economy across the country as oshiomole did to get attention. I am not sure involving the current crop will even amount much to a revolution, but taking back power, even if you have the same politicians is an option that should not be ignored.

you still haven't offered an alternative idea.

shutting down the economy brings the paralysed country to it knees. . .  . . . .making it ungovernable for the oppressors. . . . that way the demand for change can be effective.

If you require a face and a name for you to at least engage, may I urge that you find yourself a leader who is working to see change to at least act to see change in Nigeria. Some of us do not need to have a face or name to jump behind for to promote change in Nigeria but we do acknowledge there are those who do.

I never implied joining  a leader, I implied having a leader emerge from the ranks of the revolutionaries. .  . . .leadership is relevant but not as important as the ideology.

I was going to suggest you get involved by signing up with the movement started over the weekend by Nigerians like you but they do not have any face or leader per say. However, if you believe you can be as good as Gani with the skills you have, do feel free to join and become an equal member to see change in Nigeria. That is the most important thing here.

Thanks for the suggestion and kudos to those involved. . .  .but considering that the overall effect of the movement is to implicitly lobby the present agents of darkness in Nigeria, namely the legislators to bring about positive changes (that should normally be their primary responsibilities). I do not consider this effective enough on the long term to ameliorate the country.

I believe more in a complete but gradual overhaul of the whole system and have closed ranks with other people who share such ideologies too.
the movement's level ground is intellectualism. you are more than welcome if you share this line of thought.

asha 80:
@noetic

So it is normal that we do not have stable electricity 

So you did not see where the writer said said this in the article

My guy if do not know nigeria has been gradually perishing.

guy. . . . . ur pain is my pain in this matter. . . . .

my point is . . . . it honestly makes no difference what happens anymore. . . . if u get what i mean.