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KunleOshob:
To answer all your questions above, there is no clear cut christian injunction that a christian cannot marry more than one wife. It really is an assumption with very weak biblical foundation. Only church leaders were instructed not to have more than one wife, this can be verified in the following passages:

1 Timothy 3:2:

   2A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;

1 Timothy 3:12:

   12Let the deacons be the husbands of one wife, ruling their children and their own houses well.


The fact that it was only church leaders that were specifically instructed not to have more than one wife implies that the rest of the church members could if they so desired  I think this idea of one wife was introduced when european culture mixed with christianity. Whilst i am not an advocate for polygamy, i believe it is wrong for preachers to present their personal opinions as the word of God and indoctrinate it. Such issues should at best be advisory and not presented as the word of God.

PS: If any one knows any clear cut bible quote which directs christians in general not to marry more than one wife, kindly post it here. I would really like to be corrected of this notion if i am wrong.

let me also add that, polygamy itself is no sin, the process towards polygamy is the sin.
because, literarily a married man who fancies another woman and proceed wiith his intreasts is likely to fornicate before they are officially married.
So it is best and ideal as a christian to marry only one wife.
@ poster
I don't think d pastor should have done what he did. the man was married to these women before he knew Christ, as such there was no basis for a proper weddin ceremony in church.

[quote author=I-fy link=topic=199309.msg3134478#msg3134478 date=1227609120]If you backslide, the Holy Spirit will disappear from you, and satan will deposit more demons inside of you.[/quote]Thats not true.

@ Aloy.Emeka

u r just ranting.
post evidences to substantiate any of ur claims on Awo`s alledged injustice to the igbos.
and any reasons to justify ur choice of tafa balewa and azikwe as better leaders.

if u can't do this u can easily realise how tribalistically beclouded your opinions are.

and what makes u tink he is going to resign like he said.
he is bidding his time to fight back.

@ Topic

It makes no difference who the father is. . . . . . .  palin will always get sympathy from the american public, especially from women.

@ Davidylan and Tayo D

u both have cogent points . . . .

But it wont b in obamas intreast to attack Palin(wether or not he is involved in this), I tink he should just stick to issues like he has done from the very begining.

if this election is determined on issues Obama should win easily, but I am afraid the republicans are re-defining the battle ground by making it a personality contest. If this election is then determined based on personality, I dont see obama winning especially if he attacks palin. . . . . .Hilllary will be helpful here

@ post


it will b a tragedy, . , . . . . . . , .hurricane sef know where to go

ayomifull:
May the Lord God of heaven heal her in Jesus' name.

Amen. . . . .

Above all, may the will of the Father prevail
Amen

charlatan:
@CGKing

This, my friends, is what is called a straw man argument. In which the the guy dodges the topic, sets up his own questions and answers it. But what i like about this guy's posting is that he answers the questions by quoting the subject (using the bible to PROOVE the bible).

This is an example of why i am starting a church soon. Poster, please i can't wait for your next installment!

LOL

Bee4real:
Did they really sack him as SGF or what is the circumstance behind his removal. Yes the truth of the matter is that d man is being asked to come home so that IN CASE Mr President either dies or resign he cannot be asked to resign at that moment(remember PDM structure), yes are u doubting that yes just wait n see as d event unfold now, d man will be presented by d Northerners as d PDP Presidential flagbearer, n we all know now that whosoever becomes PDP candidate is automatically d President of this country either tru normal entrance or any how. So we shouldn't be fooled that he's sacked

conspiracy theory. . . . . . . . . uhmn

naomijt:
@ Paulipopo,

I strongly recommend we move the class to another thread. We have so many imposters here already. And it's really causing a lot of distraction. Thanks

we dont have to.
let them keep screaming at the top of their voices. . . . . . .  . . . . and let those who want to be informed get the info they want.

we cannot because of an irrational minority make an illogical move.

amen for me

ibere ati opin

[quote author=A_K_O link=topic=161004.msg2774432#msg2774432 date=1220955888]Never get so comfortable where you are that you turn deaf ears to everybody else.[/quote]words on GOLD

huxley

olobowale

pilgrim1

The art of ascribing illitracy, corruption, poverty, underdevelopment or anything negative about nigeria to a particular tribe is in my opinion the height of illitracy.
poverty and hunger know no tribe, face or religion. they are the products of irresponsible leadership.
A leadership is irresponsible if it is corrupt, wasteful, refuses to meet the needs of the citizenry and make plans for the future.
in all facets of the nigerian socio-political and religious life, the leadership has continued to fail regardless of their tribal or religious affilliations. and to this unfortunate category does murtala mohammed belong.

my only fear is that we the followers are also begining to fail as well, . . . . . . . . . . .

@ poster

very thought provoking.

endeavor not to accuse anyone of false miracles, cos none of us can verify that except God.
but u can raise questions about all other things they do, that way we can easily make conclusions on the genuiety of their miracles.
but if u raise questions about the authencity of their miracles without any proove to back it up, u tend to sound more like another nuisance.

I m enjoying the course.
all da best.

Queenisha:
My dear use your tongue and count your teeth

Igbos say that when you explain the meaning of a proverb to a fellow,the dowry the father paid to marry that fellow's mother ,was a waste.

very funny . . . . . . i didnt know nairaland is now a place for jesters

u made an uninformed statement by generalising the north,
and me tinkin u were of the intelligent specie that made a one-off mistake, asked u for clarification,
and look at wat came out of ur mouth. very unfortunate

Queenisha:
Any northerner in power has only one agenda.
We must never forget that.
Thank God he passed on before having a chance to cause us any harm

which is?

KunleOshob:
@noetic
I wouldn't bother to respond to your posts anymore, more than enough posts a have been pasted here which explains things in better perspective. You can choose to learn from it or stick to what you assume is true.

i like ur conclusion, its typical nigerian.

people responded sayin all sorts of tins about wat they heared or read in storybooks, but yet refuse to produce sources.
they all claim to have read from an historical book, whats the title of the book? the source?

I refuse to be religiously or intellectually stupid. if anyone has any good reason to suggest that lucifer is not satan, then bring ur opinion on board and state sources. and if ur source is d bible, make an effort to make an analysis.

dont just type and tink u r speakin to kindergarten pupils who r expected to take ur word without reasoning.
what evidences or refrences suggest that lucifer aint satan?

yes, but with wisdom.

and the message is?

DeepZone:
Where is the link to this story?

Ladoja is innocentoooo! It's like the northerners are using EFCC to molest the westerners.

all have sinned

KunleOshob:
@noetic
Quote your own biblical source that suggests that satn and lucifer are one and the same.

in isaiah 14  :12. Lucifer was described as having fallen from heaven and cast down to the earth.

How you have fallen from heaven,
       O morning star, son of the dawn!
       You have been cast down to the earth,
       you who once laid low the nations!

was the king of babylon human, he could not have been to heaven not to talk of being cast down from heaven.
this truth is butressed in Rev 12: 7-9

7And there was war in heaven. Michael and his angels fought against the dragon, and the dragon and his angels fought back. 8But he was not strong enough, and they lost their place in heaven. 9The great dragon was hurled down—that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him.

and also the lucifer in Isaiah 14 was described as the morning star and light bringer. this corroborates what Jesus said in luke 10:18
18He replied, "I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven.

Satan and lucifer are one and the same, they represent the enemies of God.
Lucifer was his name when he was the morning star, shining in the glory of God, he became satan (which means enemy of God) when he rebbeled against God.

coolruler:
@noetic
Pay attention! I never discredited anything. When does asking questions translate to discrediting?
In the olden days, billions of people believed the earth was flat. Does that make it true?

what r u talking about?

u made a categorical statement and not a guess, u said,

coolruler:
Actually, It might suprise you to know that Lucifer is not the same as Satan.

u had a definite opinion that satan n lucifer r not the same and u unfortunately butressed it with a nihilant historical source.

do u want to share with us why u believe the version of this history book n not the bible?

[Quote]
Education is all about asking questions you hear?[/quote]not so, my dear.
its about asking questions with the intention to learn and be informed.

KunleOshob:
@noetic
The poster is actually right the above quoted passage is the only place in the bible were the word lucifer was used and it was refering to the king of babylon. To confirm read the whole chapter of Isaiah 14

so was the supposed earthly or historical king of babylon also the one refered to in verses 13 and 14?

You said in your heart,
      "I will ascend to heaven;
      I will raise my throne
      above the stars of God;
      I will sit enthroned on the mount of assembly,
      on the utmost heights of the sacred mountain. [c]

14 I will ascend above the tops of the clouds;
      I will make myself like the Most High."


you can only overthrow or rebel against what u c.  so did your presumed king of babylon ever live with, see or saw God to have developed these thoughts?. . . .  . . My take is NO.

and the poster never said the source of his misinformation was d bible. . .  . . he laid credence to another historical source, which is d basis of my disagreement with his opinion.

Big B1:
Please adjust your post; separate my statement from yours.

OK, just because OBJ bluntly told IBB to step down means OBJ clipped IBB's wing?
Have you asked yourself who bluntly told OBJ (the president) that the 3rd term idea wouldn't be possible?
Have you asked yourself who was behind the voting against the 3rd term?
Have you asked yourself who approved the placement of Yar'Adua as the president?
Have you asked yourself why out of all people David Mark was elected as the senate president?
[color=Black]Have you asked yourself why OBJ's stock went down from £1000 per stock to 5 pence in less than 16 months?
[/color]
My man; pleaseeeeee, come again!

Yes, IBB was and is still a coward. He couldnt stand up to OBJ, the same way he was silent during abacha`s 4 years

nobody did except atiku. IBB was busy playing chess, hoping the agenda fails and the Obj would then support him.

The whole of Nigeria. spearheaded by Atiku and other disgruntled elements in PDP

OBJ and only OBJ

He simply supported third term and betrayed the coward and opportunist called IBB. are they on terms, even now?

[color=Black]Its called propaganda. IBB stock has forever continued to fall ever since he annulled june 12.
if OBJ sells for 5p then IBB is probably 3p[/color]

coolruler:
Actually, It might suprise you to know that Lucifer is not the same as Satan.

Lucifer(bringer of light, star of the morning, e.t.c) was a human being, as records have it, a king in ancient Babylonia.

I was shocked when I discovered this. I am still shocked!

i wonder how intelligent u are?

u choose to discredit the claims of one record (the bible), believed by over a billion people against an ancient record which we can hardly make refrence to.

hillary was splendid

@ topic

he was govenor of katsina for 8 years, yet he couldnt biuld a world class hospital in katsina to treat his case.
it tells a lot about his true intentions for nigeria.

to die in power n b remebered as a former president.
all da best mr. president

uhmn. . . . . .

davidylan:
Some people have no shame. Is this the Kobojunkie who was defending Yar Adua last yr?

uhmn. . . . . . very hillarious

lots of my mates too were having an hopeless hope in the yara guy when he came in , . . . . . , . . ,
its the nigerian thing to proclaim anything new as the best ever, even when they have a bad past record.

dont forget pastor tunde bakare also claimed yara is d messiah long awaited.

i tot pastor tunde bakare said yaradua is d long awaited messiah . . . . . . . . .