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@ Mukina

Noetic i do not have to prove anything to you . .geddit? Cheesy i wont be goaded either. does not work for me. many have tried to. but it never works.

LOL
Islam is a complete way of life. and in no way does Islam put rules aside for women and men.

u never can tell maybe ur answers will convert me to islam

so why are u afraid of answering my questions? its unfair u know.

@ osisi

please ignore oyb.

he is simply displaying a common trait of unintelligible rhetoric known amongst allah's defenders.

I wonder what all of these realities does to them? considering that allah said they are all going to hell.

babs787:
@Noetic2


If it does, I would not have turned to Islam when 'others' failed.


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Yeye dude. You are my friend along with Davidylan. I am not bothered at all

So why didnt u answer my questions on the "why i am not a muslim" thread?

Abuzola:
Ignorant man, Allah is an arabic word for God.

allah is also a moon-god with 3 daughters and a wife called allat.

olabowale:
@Noetic: Do you even read your Bible? Jesus said with his own mouth that they should bring some people before him and slay them. You guys call it Parable. That it was not refering to Jesus. But in other situations like the Bridal group with lamps awaiting their groom, you will turn around and say it is Jesus that was the groom. The same Jesus who never was married!

If parable is for Jesus or not, you guys must be constitent! You can choose one, not one this time and the other at another time. Thats called trickery! You can trick all the people sometimes, but you can fool all the people all the time!

And by the way, the spanish inquisition demostrated how demonic Christianity is. On one hand they say they belief. On the other hand their actions belied their statement. The Spanish inquisition went all the way to the top; the Pope. And no Protestant protested against it. You protestant, if thats what you are is guilty by complacancy!

Only Allah alone knows how much you guys deviated from the path. I am certain that you completely missed the road! While the Christians of Spain in their delution said convert or die, many died and many converted. That included the Jews.

By the way, you know there is a verse in your book of Revelation that says Jesus will come back and under him it is convert or die, for the for the Jews? I hope you are not ignorant of that verse? Maybe, you are. Maybe you are from your head in the sand syndrome that I see you practice!

And I do not have to witness the many wars waged against Islam to see injustice from the Christians. The 1st gulf war had some armaments with chalk writing: Say hello to your Allah, or something like now you are getting your 72 (I wonder where they got 72) virgins. This current war in Iraq have seen its own share of rapes and killing of many by the Christian Invaders. I wonder if they raped them because they are just women, or because they are muslims and they are weak? But the women who were raped and killed did not display their charms. These women were covered! Yet the disbelievers still find ways to get to them!

Hijab and Kimar meant nothing to their evil minds! Noetic, what do you say to that man? I hope you will not wont that for any woman. Right? I was certain that there were injustices like that in the ill conceived and ill prosecuted Nigerian civil war. But imagine travelling all the way from America to Iraq, on a lie to kill and displaced so many lives? Christianity is a religion that preaches turning the other cheek and forgiveness of your enemies! Liar like Pinocchio. Your wooden nose haven't started growing with every denial you made. Maradona; thats what they call people who never speak the truth? You are one, man.

How many of them did Jesus kill before He died?

How many people did mohammed kill before he died?

Abuzola:
Why will Allah forgive Abraham for having incest, why did god of the old teastament wicked like a snake ? Answer it yourself

you are so ignorant. Abraham does NOT know who allah is. Allah is an arabian idol. Abraham worshipped other idols.

mukina2:
i posted that because you said it like she witnessed them.
you are not the first to say so and defly wont be the last. since your own arguments never lack of anything. be my guest
I already replied Osisi on the apostates. check my reply to her

where did you get this from? who told you i had no right? stop twisting things i beg
na by force? if i choose not to tell you does that mean i do not know?
Mr, i only called ur attention to what the thread is about, because you guys are fond of drawing other issues that are not being discussed. every religion, tribe, race culture has its good and bad sides, why must it be Islam this and Islam that all the time?
LOL i think you need that advice, let people practice their religion in peace.
why not just objectively consider all that have been said for and against islam, and seek the face of GOD.
Yeah and i am the president of South Africa :Dwrong. you did. check your first ever post

Fine. Good choice u have made.

but by coming into the "why I am not a muslim thread" and refusing to answer the simple question "why are u a muslim", I simply assumed u dont know. so why dont u prove me wrong and tell us all why EXACTLY u are a muslim.

And please educate me, what are ur rights in islam? please educate my ignorance.

oyb:
noetic, has fanaticism made you blind as well as stupid ? 

with the exception of the first, all the so called hadith you posted are false

abi you failed to see the 'over to noetic' ? 

also, please explain the love you lot are showing to child witches in aqua ibom 

and can you shed light for unintelligent folk like me as to how jews are not mandated to kill rape and murder in the name of yahweh - if as you dubiously claim, this is about right and wrong 

now i get ur point. type in the haddiths I pasted into google and see what comes up, thou pathetic ignoramus.

Abuzola:
Go and ask your pastor

how is my pastor supposed to know?

As far as my pastor and I are concerned mohammed is a false prophet. why is he a prophet anyway? what are his miracles? what are his prophecies?

why would allah forgive the past and future sins of a man who slept with a 9 year old girl?
why would allah forgive the past and future sins of a man who never practised forgiveness? who called for the amputation and beheading of erring people.
why would allah forgive the past and future sins of a man who had an animal-like sexual appetite and killed endlessly?

Surely allah must be a condoner of evil and evil deeds.


why was mohammed's past and future sins forgiven?

oyb:
@ noetic, stop skirting the issue

where did you get your falsehoods from ?  

are you ready to admit that you are nothing more than a double talking, mealy mouthed, hypocritical dubious liar ?  

Question for Osisi when will you start a thread on the jews ?  

i do believe the old testament which they follow sanctions killing, rape, sacking of towns, and genocide as a duty, not so  

loking forward to your starting a thread on that -

_{if of course you are sincere and not just crazy about Islam}  


i just love the love you peeps are showing to the child witches in aqua ibom  

noetic, please tell me , were the crusades politically motivated ?   what of the salem witch trials ? and the spanish inquisition? what of the love you people showed to scientists back in the day?

you people are so blinkered by your own hypocrisy its sad

this is why I hate debating with unintelligent people.

can u chronologically list my lies and falsehood?

mukina2:
real life victims she witnessed right?

do we have to witness it when it happens to u, before we cry out for justice?

The islamic line of argument on this forum is very very embarrassing. It sparks hypocrisy, bias, beclouded sentiments, lack of education and an astonishing amount of ignorance.

are u comfortable with the killing of apostates? are u happy that u have little or no right under islamic rule/injunctions as a lady? u could not even tell me why u are a muslim. . . . .

are u in any way denying the violence in islam? my advice to u, is to be objective not only on this forum, but in ur day to day life.
why not just objectively consider all that have been said for and against islam, and seek the face of GOD.
I do not criticise ur religion because I am a christian, I simply criticise it because of the very many contradictions. They are too many to be ignored.

the topic here is apostates

You guys always turn things around to suit urselves

u are accussing the wrong people . . .  .go over the thread and see who started this. . .  . . olabowale.

olabowale:
@Davidylan: I have to do other things too, David. There are other aspects to my life than Nairaland! But then, as I read your daring me to expose your eligion for what it is, I cant but remember how I lote the spanish inquisition stories. So I just went on a google search for it. I am sure you use google for all your religious arguments. NO? Enjoy.

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Do your own research and don't be emotional about it! I am sure you will before you die know Christianity for what it is. There is nothing natural about it. It is completely unbelieveable. You cant have a legislation that is impossible for man to carry out being imposed on mankind. Afterall, the King you are anmed after, King David fought wars as necessary! When appropriate, If his person was not good, your parents would not have named you after him. Afterall, they didnt call you Judas Iscariot, No? And you in all your loving Jesus have not seen fit to change your name to Jesus! Finally, nothing Jesus said that you have done, yet. Like his turning the other cheek will be an impossibility for you in Rochester. NO? Of course. Your enemy is a person who comes to your home, and at gunpoint wants all your hard earned cash and wants your wife, too. I wanna see how much love you have for that sucker, whe you are looking straight into the barrel of his gun.

this is a raw display of ignorance.

did Jesus command any one to kill for any reason? common sense should tell u that this are politically motivated killings.
It has been repeatedly established from ur koran and haddiths that u are commanded to kill, by allah and master slave mohammed.
islam is all about killing and violence, christianity . . . .LOVE.

oyb:
from noetic:
Bukhari (89:271) - A man who embraces Islam, then reverts to Judaism is to be killed according to "the verdict of Allah and his apostle."


these are all the 271s in the volumes


about Ka'b_ibn_al-Ashraf

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ka'b_ibn_al-Ashraf

one wonders how  a jew who was mobilizing the Quraiysh against the muslims suddenly metamorphosed into an apostate 

you christans are something else - though you and the guy seem to have a lot in common 

osisi provided u with real life victims of islamic apostasy, I also provided u with quranic and hadith injunctions commanding all muslims to kill.
what else do u want?

and then u turn to christianity. . . . . u are as pathetic as olabowale.

Do christians kill in any name for any reason today? have u ever heard of a christian apostasy killing?
This is not a muslim versus christian issue, this is right versus wrong. Islam infringes on fundamental human rights and liberties that all men MUST enjoy, in this advanced 21st century age.

Are u comfortable with the killings in islam?

dalaman:
Established claims by who? The claims are not yours, all you did was copy and paste them by simply parapharsing what the original writer wrote down. The writers claims have been refuted, I can also parapharse and claim that as my own understanding, it seems you are not really interested in having any kind of conversation on this because you do not really understand the issue any better than me.

what are u talking about?

u just derive pleasure in coming up with meaningless and irrelevant postulation. YOU CANNOT PROVE THAT I COPIED AND PASTED ANYTHING FROM ANYWHERE, . . .BECAUSE I DID NOT.

Next time u want to debate, read up in advance.

olabowale:
Let just assume that you are right, it is a fair question. What happens in the case of jesus, a god that the devil was able to run over in at least three instances? Should we trust anything that comes from his mouth, parables or not? In america, there is something called three strikes you are out. That is in the Baseball. Now it is the order of the day in the courts; three confictions, you are in for life!

In the case of Muhammad; if there is any abrogation, what is abrogated is still kept intact in the Quran. Read the Quran and see how wrong you are. There is no possibility for the devil to have control over Muhammad or any prophet (Isa Bin Mariam, AS included). Allah chos eHis elects and Personally protected them. Note that Muhammad's heart was filled with beliefs throughout his lifetime. Angels and indeed Jibril was always around him.

It is the same Muhammad that Allah sent for and was granted the most fantastic journey of all; Isra wa Miraj (in just a portion of a night). Was this incident of bowing down because of the devil before revelation or after? Was it before Isra wa Miraj or after? I am sure that Allah would not have allowed such an incident to occur with His Beloved (AS).

And just because a person has a middle eastern sounding name does not make him a muslim. And finally, ahadith are in gradations. We know fabricated ahadith and the weak one because for one, they always go against the nature of the Quran and indeed the essence of Islam! To have said that the beloved of Allah will bow down to satan, when He Allah is never asleep, never wary, never fatigued, etc, render your wicked suggestion laughable.

By the way Allah is not like your after six days of work I have to rest for a day god! A god who rests may have a prophet that may fall under the spell or control of the devil.

how did the devil run over Jesus? when? where?

How do u know that angels were always beside mohammed?
2corth 2:14 And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light.

fellis:
First you spoil his username (blabs), then you pretend that you didn't get his points just to make things difficult. The christian 'love' you show to your fellow human beings is something else.
@topic,
I wish those people who  google information about Islam would understand that not everything they see on the Internet is true

Well stated.

I never meant to be disrespectful to babs, that was just my way of teasing him.

babs787:
@Noetic,if your guy has taken time to peruse that write up,he would have been that his accusations hold no water as it couldnt be accepted with a pinch of salt. Most of the statement go to you and ur folks in which you have been displaying when answering or debating in which good example is where one of you asked 'why did Allah allow His book,the bible to corrupt,y cant he guide it'? The point is that his copy and paste is all ruse that was not substantiated and some parts exposed the relationship between christianity and paganism. My rejoinder to the last part of his post would come SOON

Is ANY part of islam contradictory to ur beliefs, conscience and convictions?

olabowale:
@$Osisi: David, if you wish you can participate. You too, Noetic. I expect chaotic answer from you.

My question to you is this; what condition will make Christianity kill anyone? see. I di not give you a long sermon. I need direct answer, please. Be generous in your entry. We want to know if there is any or no condition that will warrant any one losing his/her life as a Christian or not! Thanks.

havent u heard, Jesus said, love ur enemies, pray for them.

mohammed and allah said, chase them and kill them.

olabowale:
Am pathetic I know. Olabowale is completely different from Olabs! There is no s anywhere in my name. You wanna give me a nickname, it should have simply be Ola, or something from my name. But no s should have to appear anywhere. I can accept the fake name from Osisi, its unacceptable from you, a yoruba man.

But then what do I expect, if I relate your thoughts with the below:

A casual look at the first 2 verses Deutronomy and Mark, will tell any logically thinking person that the two verses meant the same thing to the speaker(s). If One of the speaker therefore spoke the John verse that you presented, he is either deluded, deranged, retarted or some evil person had spoken it and completely lied it was from the speaker of Mark or Deutoronomy verse! Which one is it?

Is the Biblical Jesus a liar or is it the writer(s) of the Bible who lied? Among the Prophets that came from the loin of Jacob (Israel), none of them, according to the Israelites/Israelis is more successful than Moses, their LIBERATOR Prophet!

This man, Moses before leaving Pharaoh and his army in ruin, performed about 8 major miracles. He utterly destroyed Pharaoh and his super army at the sea. All the while, he used only a dead stick, worthy of any notice!

He made this stick became a big snake that ate snakes alive. This stick became a snake, three different times. The second time Pharaoh was about to run for his life, for if it is not his arrogance, he stayed.

After crossing the sea, Moses brought about food for his people, without them tilling any soil. He made water cush out of rocks, with each nation by tribe having its own separately. He spoke to God by hearing the Voice of the Almighty directly with his own ears. And in the process of shepharding his people, he at least temporarily stopped them from Idolatry by destroying the Golden Calf upon his return from a 40 nigtd and forty days seclusion, where he got the "Commandments" from his Lord. And before he died, he told his people to kill a cow and used portion from it to touch a dead man, who by this action will wake up and reveal his murderer! All of these happened by the hand of this noble man.

The jews knew who God was before Jesus came about. They told Moses that it was safer for him to tell them what God said, instead of chancing the possibility of hearing the Voice of God, as ordinary people without prophetic office or authority! You will think that such a God who is never been seen by mortar soul, will not suddenly drag Himself on the filthy level man, who are sinners with original sin, according to the Bible!

Jesus will have to be that God? What a way for your god to appear to man, through the birth canal of a woman, like every other child who came from the womb of the mother. Blood, the water breaking, after birth and placenta and cord, and all that "Jazz!"

You should be ashamed that your god sucked mother's breast for nourishment.

My illah, Allah the Almighty is far above what you associate with Him!

This is ridiculous. what point did u just make now?

Jesus is GOD.

dalaman:
I am sorry but the claims are not yours, you only copied the claims of others. I am not an atheist, you said that the post from wikipedia and talk origin did not refute your claims, Toneyb and I showed where they refuted your claims in details, I at least expected you to come and defend your position but you never did you simply refused to address them. I am not antagonizing your stance I only copied and pasted the refutations to your claims from talk origin, Toneyb did the same from wikipedia, you should defend your position at least.

Fine. I copied established claims but presented them in my own understanding. why didnt u, mazaje and toneyb do the same? why did u all just copy and paste?

why should I defend the claims, when nothing u said came from ur own understanding? u had no reason to disagree cos u did not show any understanding of the subject matter, all u did was to antagonise my position for convenience.

If and when u disagree with any of my positions and can defend ur claims without copy-paste inactions, I will gladly engage u. otherwise I consider it all pointless.

why not study the evidences available, understand what they entail and take a position. If u disagree with my position, then fine, we can debate.
,

dalaman:
Toneyb and I did, You on the other hand did not even refute any of the questiones they asked you only said that they copied and pasted without refuting it. By the way there is no geological word as "polystrate fossils". It is not even a geological [b]according to wikipedia [/b]and the other link that was provided.

you and toneyb said u got ur refutations from talk origin and wikipedia. so why on earth should I reply u guys?

apart from the fact I dont draw issues with toneyb. . . .u (dalaman) clearly stated that u knew nothing about the subject matter, why should i debate with u, if u are going to rely entirely on google and wikipedia? i'd better debate with google or wikipedia.

Even the renowned nairaland geologist, mazaje, could not REFUTE anything from his head, he had to copy and paste.

I consider it intellectually unhealthy to debate with anyone who relies on other sources to refute my claims, without displaying any amount of understanding. No offence intended. . . . .but I assumed that u, mazaje and toneyb were simply antagonising my stance without any concrete reason but based on pre-conceived atheistic sentiments.

babs787:
Yeye dude

And u should be the baba adini of nairaland . . . .deputy JIHADIST in chief

blabs what EXACTLY was ur point?

i hereby nominate olabowale as the one and only:

baba JIHAD of nairaland.

where were u when mazaje, huxley and other atheists and geologists could not refute the overbearing evidences that established noah's flood?

ever heard of polystrate fossils? Do a google search on nairaland.

[quote author=$osisi link=topic=281140.msg4008481#msg4008481 date=1244657721]Don't mind them.
Some of them may be sharpening their machetes as we type.
They are in an everlasting war until everyone bows to allah
Isn't that their mission.
If pleading doesn't do it, they bring out a sword.[/quote]I wonder why they cant just pray to allah to help convert people?

does allah take pleasure in spilling blood always?

oyb:
this is the hadith and the one preceding it . obviously this was during war. a muslim who turned apostate at this time would have sold the muslims out to the Quraiysh . end of story. or perhaps traitors are treated mercifully in wartime?

you do realise that until the return to Mecca, Muslims were basically at war with the quraish, and that anyone who was a muslim and who reconverted would have sold them out?

noetic, i have an electronic hadith here. i found osisis hadith, but i can't find your own.  

get back to your website and get the proper refernces , if you can

when is islam never in war? allah and mohammedans are always fighting. My only problem is that their victims are defenceless people.

oyb:
noetic, maybe your matriach needs teach you how to proprly peruse Islam bashing websites

these are the hadiths in bukari you refernced . . .unless there's something i'm doing wrong before you come out with your taqiyya etal

what are thou talking about?

I am sorry about that . . . . .I just dont want them to continue deceiving themselves

but dont be surprised if olabowale comes out with a long sermon now

Qur'an (4:89) - "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them"

The following are from the hadith:

Bukhari (52:260) - ", The Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.' "

Bukhari (83:37) - "Allah's Apostle never killed anyone except in one of the following three situations: (1) A person who killed somebody unjustly, was killed (in Qisas,) (2) a married person who committed illegal sexual intercourse and (3) a man who fought against Allah and His Apostle and deserted Islam and became an apostate."



Bukhari (84:57) - "[In the words of] Allah's Apostle, 'Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.'"

[b]Bukhari (89:271) - A man who embraces Islam, then reverts to Judaism is to be killed according to "the verdict of Allah and his apostle."

Bukhari (84:58) - "There was a fettered man beside Abu Muisa. Mu'adh asked, 'Who is this (man)?'  Abu Muisa said, 'He was a Jew and became a Muslim and then reverted back to Judaism.'  Then Abu Muisa requested Mu'adh to sit down but Mu'adh said, 'I will not sit down till he has been killed. This is the judgment of Allah and His Apostle (for such cases) and repeated it thrice.'  Then Abu Musa ordered that the man be killed, and he was killed. Abu Musa added, 'Then we discussed the night prayers'"

Bukhari (84:64-65) - "Allah's Apostle: 'During the last days there will appear some young foolish people who will say the best words but their faith will not go beyond their throats (i.e. they will have no faith) and will go out from (leave) their religion as an arrow goes out of the game. So, wherever you find them, kill them, for whoever kills them shall have reward on the Day of Resurrection.'"

[/b]

do u want more?

oyb:
see this olodo

your matriach is talking about apostates
are you really too stupid to comprehend what she is posting?

if you want to get into slaying unbelievers - theres plenty in your bible that endorses it abi you've forgotten Leviticus and how your hero dawoda nackson was defending the rape of women captured in war 

the christian way - throw all the mud you can - some may stick 

whats the difference? an apostates becomes an islamic "unbeliever", are u so dumb?

allah has repeatedly asked u to kill . , . .so whats the difference?

olabowale:
Mark 12 verse 29; Jesus saying that there is a God that he and his listeners serve or aught to be serving.

Deutronomy 6 Verse 4: An old timer, I am going just say that he is a prophet from the time before Jesus saying that there is a God that he and his listeners serve or aught to be serving.

If by leap of faith, the Christian says that Jesus is God, then by the same amount of leap of faith the Old Testament people will have to say that their Old Testament prophet who made this statement first is also a God.

I guess everyone is a god in the Bible. All you have to do is say and or do something supernatural! But every prophet has some of those, specific to him. Moses pathed a sea and while he saved his people, he drowned his enemies by it!

I wonder why the Old Testament people didn't say Moses or any prophet, including the one that Jesus copied his Deutoronomy statement in Mark was not called God?

But copying is plagiarism, ain't it? Whats so special about a god that is not original that he had to copy another earlier god? Is that god deserving of any worship?

Now before somebody accuses me of using a reverse process to defend Islam at the demise of Christianity, I will simply ask these: Is Christianity not an organized religion, practised by humans, and propagated against intended demise of others, including Islam? If all the answers are simply yes, it should not be surprising that I am applying what Christianity is qualified by to expose its many faults.

Its book is corrupt, since it opposes itself in mant ways; within New Testament, you find verses going against one another. And within the Bible Testaments, the OT is opposing the NT. There is no congruency in it, if we consider Mark 12:29 and Deutoronomy 6:4, as our example. Same exact sentence, spoken by two different people at different times. Could their be inconsitencies, if there is honesty in thoughts? If the earlier speaker is not God, can the later speaker be God? No!

If he were God, his statement would have definitely changed to indicate that he is theGod that the earlier speaker was referring to! In the same form that Judaism was organized after a tribe is the same way Christianity was organized after an individual. Should it not be possible that the two are artificial, and not mandated on humans by God?

But it is interesting to note that Judah, the son of Jacob was actually son of Israel, and could not have been a Jew by religion. He must have practiced the same religion as his father, his grandfather, his great grandfather Ibrahim (AS). (And Ibrahim was not a Jew or a Christian).

Jesus must not have been a Christian! The label Christian came after him. He was observed to prostrate his face in prayer at the garden. Not one time, but many times in one single day; at least evening at night and very early in the morning. No body says that his prayer time coincided with todays Muslims'. But for sure he submitted his will demostrated by his many prayers, supplications "Not as I will but as you will", to his Creator!

If thats not Islam, it is definitely not Christianity and for sure not Judaism. I know about the Jews. Do you know?! Disappointed you shall remain.

Deuteronomy 6:4
4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one.

Mark 12:29
29"The most important one," answered Jesus, "is this: 'Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one.

John 10: 30 "I and the Father are one."

Olabs, u are so pathetic. , , , what else have u got to say?

oyb:
osisi, you have failed to post any Hadith or verses from the Quran

is it  only vague conjecture you can hit us with ?  

Please do so and we will go on from there



ouch - Mukina beat me to it

how many do u want?

quran 9:5
Slay the idolaters wherever you find them.

SURA 2:39: But they who disbelieve, and deny Our revelations, such are rightful Peoples of the Fire. They will abide therein.

SURA 2:191: And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. And fight not with them at the Inviolable Place of Worship until they first attack you there, but if they attack you (there) then slay them. Such is the reward of disbelievers.

SURA 2:194: And one who attacketh you, attack him in like manner as he attacked you. Observe your duty to Allah, and know that Allah is with those who ward off (evil).

SURA 4:89: They long that ye should disbelieve even as they disbelieve, that ye may be upon a level (with them). So choose not friends from them till they forsake their homes in the way of Allah; if they turn back (to enmity) then take them and kill them wherever ye find them, and choose no friend nor helper from among them

SURA 4:91: If they keep not aloof from you nor offer you peace nor hold their hands, then take them and kill them wherever ye find them. Against such We have given you clear warrant.

do u want more?

mantraa:
Altruism is simple common sense. We evolved brains intelligent enough to understand that we all benefit by acting altruistically to each other. The fact is; we are all equal, and we are all originally come from the same place, AFRICA. Regardless of what race or religion you are.


Respects

you are so ignorant. muslims say jihad is simple common sense . . . .is it?

why postulate an idea u cannot explain explicitly? . . . . altruism ko, alter-truism ni