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Chiwude:Ekpo never represented Aba in anything. Read the story well She only organised and created pressure groups in Aba, because Aba was the largest city in her region (Eastern region. So she functioned from Aba. Margaret Ekpo got elected into the parliament by the influence of her husband John Udo Ekpo who was also a member of the parliament and her husband was Ibibio. So u can see that Efik-Ibibio influence was what made Margaret Ekpo who he was and not Igbo. because her Igbo father died while she was still young and her Efik mother brought her up to a grown woman. However she lived as a proud eastern woman representing her region and fighting for the women in her region in totality. Igbo women benefited from Ekpo more than Ibibio-Efik women because almost all of Ekpo's activities were based in Aba. |
STEVENcrack:Abeg my brother, we know Dora Akunyili had a great influence as a Nigerian woman, but she cannot compete on this list with either of these 3 women. Funmilayo, Margaret n Ladi all influenced Nigeria's independence one way or the other, but Akunyili who was born in 1954 was just a child as at this time, so pls no basis for comparison. |
Phut:Ok, let's agree that she was of mixed heritage but the fact is that her Efik/ibibio roots speaks far louder than her igbo roots partly due to these reasons > She was born and bred in Calabar > Her igbo father died at a very early stage and she grew up with just her mother and her mother's Efik people in Calabar acquiring Efik Culture > Finally she married an Efik man This was why she identified as Efik more but although since Efik-ibibio and igbos were one back then in the old eastern region, her works anf agitations were for the whole region. So we can say she represents the Old eastern region. |
Lordave:Don't talk like a stupid person. Ekpo always identified as Ibibio and not Igbo. During her period in the Eastern Parliament, she never represented igbo areas but rather Ibibio. |
Also, based on the 5 major human geographical divisions we have in Nigeria The Core-northern part of Nigeria, the Middlebelt part, Eastern, Western & Niger deltan Let's say Margaret Ekpo represents the Niger deltan region as an Ibibio Ladi Kwali represents the Middlebelt region as a Gbagyi woman & Funmilayo Kuti represents the Western (yoruba speaking region) I'd like to hear from Igbos (easternerns) and the Hausa-fulanis (core-northernerns), who are the most influential Igbo & Hausa-fulani women that ever lived?? |
FUNMILAYO RANSOME KUTI Funmilayo Ransome Kuti, (25 October 1900- 13 April 1978), born Francis Abigail Olufunmilayo Thomas to Daniel Olumeyuwa Thomas and Lucretia Phyllis Omoyeni Adeosolu, was a teacher, political campaigner, women's rights activist and traditional aristocrat. She served with distinction as one of the most prominent leaders of her generation. She was also the first woman, in Nigeria, to drive a car. Ransome-Kuti's political activism led to her being described as the doyen of female rights in Nigeria, as well as to her being regarded as "The Mother of Africa." Early on, she was a very powerful force advocating for the Nigerian woman's right to vote. She was described in 1947, by the West African Pilot as the "Lioness of Lisabi" for her leadership of the women of the Egba clan that she belonged to on a campaign against their arbitrary taxation. That struggle led to the abdication of the Egba high king Oba Ademola II in 1949. Kuti was the mother of the activists Fela Anikulapo Kuti, a musician, Beko Ransome-Kuti, a doctor, and Professor Olikoye Ransome-Kuti, a doctor and a former health minister of Nigeria.[2] She was also grandmother to musicians Seun Kuti and Femi Kuti. Funmilayo Ransome Kuti campaigned for women's votes. She was for many years a member of the ruling National Council of Nigeria and the Cameroons party, but was later expelled when she was not elected to a federal parliamentary seat. At the NCNC, she was the treasurer and subsequent president of the Western NCNC women's Association. After her suspension her political voice was diminished due to the direction of national politics, as both of the more powerful members of the opposition, Awolowo and Adegbenro, had support close by. However, she never truly ended her activism. In the 1950s, she was one of the few women elected to the house of chiefs. At the time, this was one of her homeland's most influential bodies. She founded the Egba or Abeokuta Women's Union along with Eniola Soyinka (her sister-in-law and the mother of the Nobel Laureate Wole Soyinka). This organisation is said to have once had a membership of 20,000 women. Among other things, Funmilayo Ransom Kuti organised workshops for illiterate market women. She continued to campaign against taxes and price controls. Throughout her career, she was known as an educator and activist. She and Elizabeth Adekogbe provided dynamic leadership for women's rights in the 1950s. She founded an organization for women in Abeokuta, with a membership tally of more than 20,000 individuals spanning both literate and illiterate women. Before her death, Funmilayo was One of the women elected to the native House of Chiefs, serving as an Oloye of the Yoruba people She was a ranking member of the National Council of Nigeria and the Cameroons Treasurer and President Western Women Association of the National Council of Nigeria and the Cameroons Leader of Abeokuta Women's Union Leader of Commoners Peoples Party Leader of Nigeria Women's Union and winner of the Lenin Peace Prize.
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LADI DOSEI KWALI Ladi Dosei Kwali (1925-1983), the only Nigerian woman to appear on the Naira notes. Popularly known as Dr Ladi Kwali was born in 1925 in Kwali town in the present Federal Capital Territory, in the middlebelt part of Nigeria to Gbayi (gwari) parents. She learned to make pottery as a child using the traditional method of coiling. She made large pots for use as water jars and cooking pots from coils of clay, beaten from the inside with a flat wooden paddle. They were decorated with incised geometric and stylised figurative patterns. Following the traditional African method, they were fired in a bonfire of dry vegetation Her pots were noted for their beauty of form and decoration. Several were acquired by the Traditional ruler of Abuja, in whose home they were seen by Michael Cardew in 1950. In 1954, she joined Cardew's pottery training centre in Abuja, its only woman potter, where she learned to throw pots on the wheel. She made dishes, bowls and beakers with sgraffito decoration but also continued to produce pots using her traditional hand building and decorating techniques. Most of these were glazed and fired in a high-temperature kiln and therefore represent an interesting hybrid of traditional African with western studio pottery. Through Kwali's contact with Cardew, she and her work became known in Europe, Britain, America and many other countries of the world as she was hosted for international exhibitions to display her worls. In the late 1950s and early 1960s, her work was shown to great acclaim in London at the Berkeley Galleries. She became Nigeria and one of Africa's best-known potter as she received so many national and international awards to her works. She was awarded a doctorate and was made MBE in 1963. Ladi's pottery was also displayed during Nigeria’s independence celebrations in 1960 as objects of National pride. Dr Ladi Kwali remained associated with the Abuja pottery works till she died. She gave lectures and demonstrations at home and abroad on her craft throughout her career. The Abuja Pottery was renamed the Ladi Kwali Pottery and a major street in Abuja is called Ladi Kwali Road. Her picture appears at the back of the Nigerian 20 Naira bill. By the time she died in 1983, Dr Ladi Kwali was Nigeria’s best known potter. She left a rich legacy of her work and a school of ‘students’ who picked up from where she left at the Abuja Pottery Training Centre.
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MARGARET EKPO Margaret Ekpo (1914-2006) was a Nigerian women's rights activist and social mobilizer who was a pioneering female politician in the country's First Republic and a leading member of a class of traditional Nigerian women activists, many of whom rallied women beyond notions of ethnic solidarity. Margaret Ekpo was born in Creek Town, Cross River State, to the family of Okoroafor Obiasulor and Inyang Eyo Aniemewue She married a doctor, John Udo Ekpo, in 1938. He was from the Ibibio ethnic group who are predominant in Akwa Ibom State, while she was of Igbo and Efik heritage. She later moved with her husband to Aba. In 1946, she had the opportunity to study abroad at what is now Dublin Institute of Technology, Dublin Ireland. She earned a diploma in domestic science and on her return to Nigeria she established a Domestic Science and Sewing Institute in Aba. Margaret Ekpo's first direct participation in political ideas and association was in 1945. Her husband was indignant with the colonial administrators treatment of indigenous Nigerian doctors but as a civil servant, he could not attend meetings to discuss the matter. Margaret Ekpo then attended meetings in place of her husband, the meetings were organized to discuss the discriminatory practices of the colonial administration in the city and to fight cultural and racial imbalance in administrative promotions. Margaret Ekpo's awareness of growing movements for civil rights for women around the world prodded her into demanding the same for the women in her country and to fight the discriminatory and oppressive political and civil role colonialism played in the subjugation of women. She felt that women abroad including those in Britain, were already fighting for civil rights and had more voice in political and civil matters than their counterparts in Nigeria. She later joined the decolonization-leading National Council of Nigeria and the Cameroons (NGNC), as a platform to represent a marginalized group. In the 1950s, she also teamed up with Funmilayo Ransome-Kuti to protest killings at an Enugu coal mine; the victims were leaders protesting colonial practices at the mine. In 1953, Ekpo was nominated by the NCNC to the regional House of Chiefs, and in 1954 she established the Aba Township Women's Association. As leader of the new market group, she was able to garner the trust of a large amount of women in the township and turn it into a political pressure group. By 1955, women in Aba had outnumbered men voters in a city wide election. She won a seat to the Eastern Regional House of Assembly in 1961, a position that allowed her to fight for issues affecting women at the time. She was a Nigerian representative in Inter-Parliament-ary Union Conference in 1964; Nigeria representative, World Women’s International Domestic Federation Con-ference in 1963; Member of Parliament, Nigeria, 1960 –1966 and Women’s interest representative, Nigerian Constitutional Conference in 1960. She was also a delegate to the Nigerian Constitutional Conference 1959, 1957 and 1953, and a women’s inte-rest representative (Eastern House of Chiefs) 1954-1958, and a member (Eastern House of Chiefs), 1948-1966. In 2001, the Calabar airport was named after her. Her name graces the Ekpo Refectory at the University of Nigeria, Nsukka, and various other buildings and structures across the nation. Until her death, she was the Life Patron of the National Council of Women Societies (NCWS).Ekpo died at the age of 92 on September 21, 2006 at the University of Calabar Teaching Hospital, Calabar, Cross River State.
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Here's a very realistic list of the likely 3 Most influential Nigerian women that ever lived, in no particular order. I'd also like Nairalanders to tell between these 3 women who inspires you more and who is deserving of the tag of the Most influential Nigerian woman that ever lived. |
cococandy:You are right when u say many Latina women involve themselves in Plastic surgery, but the truth is that a lot of them also have naturally endowed bodies. Latin american women especially from Brazil have been known a long time to have very voluptiously curved and endowed bodies. Among the famous Latinas we know in Hollywood, The likes of Sophia Vergara, Salma Hayek, Eva Mendez, Vida Guerra e.t.c, they are all natural without plastic jobs but yet have very hot n endowed bodies. |
ChristyG:ADUGE is an edoid language spoken in Kogi state and not Kwara. Parts of Kogi state were formerly part of Old Kwara state and this is where the mistake came from. |
dania30:Pls, those saying Igarra is an edo language, it's not true. Igarra (Etuno) is a dialect of the Ebira language of Kogi state. Ebiras have their origin in Kwararafa kingdom in present day Taraba state. |
Pls let us all forget all these "Eguns are not yorubas", "Olukwumi are not igbo", "so so are not so so" and bla bla bla. The truth is that in the Nigerian context of today, ppl are free to choose wherever they want to belong to a large extent. There are some groups who may choose a certain identity just for political convenience but that does not really mean that is who they are originally. Left for me, i'd say Eguns are not yorubas because in their language alphabets, they have the letter V and Letter Z intonatitons in their language and this is something almost all other yoruba dialects lack. But it is up to the Eguns to decide who they want to be, if they say they prefer to be identified as Yorubas and the other Yorubas accept them, fine, who are others to speak against this?? Same thing goes for the Aworis, Olukumis and all others. There is freedom of association to a large extent i think. Just like Itsekiris who sometimes they will claim they are Yorubas and most other times they will reject. During the time of the Old regional system of govt, Itsekiris were identifying with the Yorubas just for political convenience and this helped them because Awolowo favoured the Itsekiris over the other Western minority groups, but today u will hardly see Itsekiris claiming to be Yorubas. |
Pls Abubakar Sani Danladi was never governor of Taraba just the Acting governor. He is not supposed to be on the list. |
I am from Plateau, but ntooor to Benue ppl Sebi na them vote Buhari? Change is gradually coming to Tiv land. Only the idomas i can pity, but Tivs are a very big disgrace, the largest tribe of the middlebelt but they behave like fools. Let them tell their Buhari to call his fulani brothers to order. |
A muslim woman rule a christian dominated state? how possible? Unless a christian woman can rule Gombe, Borno or Yobe state. |
Flets:Crude oil is a natural rescource, so u cannot compare it to farming. Is there anyway it would be possible for the Nigerian govt to take over and exploit the farming of the north? In the past when Tin n columbite was mined in Jos, was it not the govt that exploited it to the benefit of us all? was it controlled by the indigenes? Farming is based on one's productivity just as fishing or trading is. Why dont the southernerns improve on their own fishing and farming instead of going into oil bunkery? As long as we are still one country there can never be anything like a regional control of Natural mineral rescources. |
This thread in a way is for those silly Southernerns (especially Niger deltans n Igbos) who like to call the Northerners & middlebelters parasites..... Northernerns damn contribute to this country with their hard labour, tilling & sweating the ground while all those Niger deltans, just because they are blessed with oil & gas rescources which they did not spend their own private money n sweat to develop, they keep running their mouths anyhow. |
Demmzy15:Zamfara is very much peaceful i agree, but Katsina on the other hand is not so peaceful. The 2011 post election violence there was terrible. |
jolo26:Whether Itsekiris agree that Effurun is not part of Warri or not, d truth is that almost the whole world see and classifiy Effurun (Uvwie) as part of the larger Warri urban area. If u remove the entirety of Uvwie LGA from Warri urban area, warri would be a smaller city just like the size of Asaba, Sapele or Ughelli. It would seize it's status from being the largest city in Delta state. |
abduljabbar8:Mr Man, i do not disagree with u that the post has tribalistic undertones and yes it was on purpose. Since the hausa-fulani muslims have decided to play an open politics of tribalism and religiom, what choice do other groups of Nigeria have? Atiku is from Adamawa but he is from Jada LGA, Boko haram did not come close to Jada LGA. There are 4 major fulani dominated LGAs on Adamawa state and Boko haram did not touch any of them. ...So i know what i am saying when i say that ''the PDP stronghold areas of Adamawa were more affected''. Southern Kadunas supported GEJ on 2011 because they believed in what he had to offer as one who he nor the ppl of his region had ever ruled this country before, plus the Joy of Yakowa's emergence as PDP governorshi candidate. |
A good thing that Pres GEJ accepted defeat in good faith, showing the true spirit of sportsmanship. All we his supporters have done likewise. But Seriously, i myself as well as many other die hard GEJ supporters were extremely astonished on the low turn out of voters in Igbo land during the Presidential elections. I can boldy say that the igbos share more of the blames on the reasons why President GEJ lost this 2015 elections. Imagine no South-eastern state could produce up to 1 million votes for GEJ. Compared to the number of registered voters and the number of those who collected their PVC's in the South-east, the number of accredited voters were very low. Imagine states like Ebonyi & Abia producing less than 400,000 votes each despite the fact that they had over 1 million registered voters each. Northern states like Kaduna and Plateau where there were a lot of issues even produced far more votes than Abia & Ebonyi. The mighty Imo & Anambra states with large populations and registered voters could not produce even up to 800,000 votes each just as other Niger deltan states like Delta & Rivers were producing over 1 million votes each. This is why i'd like the South-easternerns to tell the whole world what actually happened?? Cos there is always a reason for everythin under the Sun. Pls note that this post is not meant to be malicious or generate ill-thoughts, but just for enlightenment. Mistakes can always be noted for prevention of further occurrence. IGBOS, what happened ![]() |
A good thing that Pres GEJ accepted defeat in good faith, showing the true spirit of sportsmanship. All we his supporters have done likewise. However i'd like to highlight some of the reasons why Pres GEJ lost/performed poorly in the middlebelt region/northern minority groups areas compared to 2011 elections where Pres GEJ won 7 states in the middlebelt/northern minority areas with a total number of over 5 million votes enabling him to win the election. Unlike now where he won only 3 states in the region, scoring less than 2 million votes. Pres GEJ did not really fail the people of the region by not carrying out any projects, but he and his party PDP failed to manage the ethno-religious diversity of the region which is the region's weakest point of manipulation. I take the states one after the other beginning from 1) PLATEAU STATE This is supposed to be one of the power PdP/GEJ states of the region, but GEJ was able to poll just 549,615 votes to Buhari's 429,140 votes as opposed to the approximately 1.1 million votes to 420,000 votes GEJ got from Plateau last election against Buhari. The problem that made APC gain more supporters in Plateau all started with the imposition of governorship candidate by the incumbent governor Jonah Jang. Gov Jang is from the northern senatorial district of plateau state and is berom by tribe. It is expected that after his tenure, power is to rotate to the southern senatorial district to another tribe as there are over 40 distinct ethnic groups in Plateau state. Most Plateaunians were very hopeful that the deputy governor Ignatius Longjan who is from Quanpan LGA in the southern senatorial district would be given the governorship slot, but no, Gov Jang handed the governorship slot to Sen Gyang Pwajok of Plateau north, who is the same tribe as he is and from the same hometown and even related to him by blood, in a bid for him Gov Jang to clinch the senatorial seat of Sen. Gyang after his governorship tenure. This selfish decision by Gov Jang sparked up great anger and resentment among the other tribes of Plateau state, hence many decided to support the APC governorship candidate Simon Lalong who is from the southern zone in a bid to balance the usual power sharing rotation that has been existing on the Plateau. And that was where the downfall and resentment of PDP rule started on the Plateau, and this was what worked against Pres GEJ from getting a susbtantial number of votes in Plateau state as was expected. 2) SOUTHERN KADUNA (KADUNA STATE CHRISTIANS) This is supposed to be the strongest PDP/GEJ support area of the middlebelt because this area produced the largest number of votes for GEJ in 2011. Despite the fact that Pres GEJ did not win Kaduna state in 2011, but he got approximately 1.2 million votes (46%) from this state which mainly came from the southern parts of the state. Not many southern Nigerian states could even give Pres GEJ as much votes as Southern Kaduna did in 2011. The northern parts of Kaduna state are hausa speaking muslims and they do not support GEJ because of their usual ethno-religious biased preference for Buhari. Surprisingly,the Kaduna that gave GEJ 1.2 million votes in 2011 were only able to poll 484,085 votes for GEJ now in 2015. The major reason for this setback was the reduction of the vigour of the people to participate in this elections since they lost the governorship position of the state through the death of Late Gov. Patrick Yakowa. Late Yakowa who emerged the PDP Governorship candidate of Kaduna state in 2011 which was the first time a christian was to contest the governorship of Kaduna state under the dominant party, this boosted the vigour of the southern Kaduna people to come out en masse and give PDP their total support in both governorship and presidential elections as Late Yakowa was able to mobilise them better. But under the current political dispensation, both the APC and PDP candidates contesting governorship of Kaduna state are both hausa muslims from the northern part of the state, so they the southern kadunas did not see themselves as stakeholders in the election process, hence a lowered vigour to participate in the elections. If they had had a candidate participating in the state governorship elections, this would have prompted them to mobilise their people to collect their pvc's and come out en masse to participate in the election processes just like 2011. Andrew Yakubu, the former NNPC managing director who is from Southern Kaduna was sacked by president GEJ just because of the issues Andrew Yakubu had with the Minister of Petroleum, Diezani Madueke. Andrew Yakubu occupied one of the highest positions of any southern kaduna person in Nigeria. This action of GEJ grieved the southern kaduna nation. GEJ would have at least replaced Andrew Yakubu with another Southern Kaduna person to reduce the grievance of the people, but GEJ did not, imstead he gave the position to a man from Borno, forgetting the over 1 million votes Southern Kaduna people gave him. Yet another reason i believe was the consistent attacks of fulani herdsmen in this area which claimed hundreds of lives and little or nothing was done by the President or PDP governor of the state to contain this. Lastly, there were a lot of cancellations of polling units located in southern kaduna by INEC. Dozens of polling units were canceled in southern kaduna fpr reasons best known to Jega and INEC. KOGI STATE Although the people of this state have not been much of strong PDP/GEJ supporters compared to the likes of Plateau and Southern Kaduna, but at least GEJ was able to win 77% of the votes of the people in 2011 elections, but now GEJ lost Kogi state to Buhari by getting only about 35% of votes in the state. In 2011, the Igalas (who are the largest tribe of Kogi state) gave Pres GEJ their overwhelming support, both Igala christians and muslims and this was what enabled GEJ win Kogi state, but in 2015, only about 40% or less of the igala (Kogi east) population voted GEJ. And one of the major reasons for this setback was that the igalas complained that Pres GEJ ceeded their Oilwell areas to Anambra state by going to Aguleri to commision the petroleum projects ongoing in the area with the Anambra state government, ignoring tha fact that most of these lands actually fall under Kogi state. Another reason is the failure of the PDP governor of Kogi state, Gov Wada not only did not do anything in Kogi state, Kogi state was impoverished under his tenure and did not experience any progress, hence the resentment of PDP rule by most Kogites. Yet another reason for Buhari winning Kogi state was the failure of Pres GEJ to fulfill his promise of reviving the Ajaokuta steel industry and the stopping of the dredging of river Niger. And lastly, religious sentiments also played a role. Kogi state is one middlebelt state with a large muslim population and as usual some of the muslims (especially from the Ebira & Nupe speaking axis) were taken by sentiments of religion to vote Buhari. BENUE STATE The outcome of the election results for this state surprised a lot of people who felt that Benue state being the home state of the Senate President and a PDP controlled christian majority state of the middlebelt would have delievered massively to GEJ. But only those who understand the internal politics of the state would not be surprised. The longtime rivalry between the Tivs and idomas was what played out in that election. The Tivs are numerically the majority in Benue state dominating 2 of the 3 senatorial districts in the state and David Mark being from the minority Idoma group and occupying the position of the Senate president is one thing which has not really gone down well with majority of the Tivs who claimed that Pres GEJ in connivance with David Mark are marginalizing the Tiv nation in terms of appointments at the federal level and this created the resentment of Pres. GEJ government among them. Meanwhile the Tivs themselves have been politically divided since during the 2011 governorship elections where one of the Tiv senatorial districts wanted an ACN candidate and the other tiv district with the Idoma senatorial district wanted Gabriel Suswam the PDP candidate and this even led to the splitting of Benue state votes during the 2011 presidential elections as President GEJ only won Benue state with 67% of the votes of the state, because one of the Tiv senatorial districts overwhemingly voted Nuhu Ribadu, the 2011 ACN presidential candidate. Indeed tribalism is one of the major determinants of politics in Benue state. Also there is a general complaint about the poor performance of Gov. Gabriel Suswam from many Benue citizens who claim that the Benue state governor has not been able to pay state workers salary for about 5 months. This is possibly another reason i think many of the state's citizens opted a change of government. And lastly even in Benue south (David Mark's senatorial district) which is idoma dominated. APC still got a substantial number of votes in both the senatorial and presidential elections because many of David Mark's people are tired of him as they claim Mark has occupied that senatorial seat for over a decade and yet little or no progress to show forth in the zone. This was the reason why David Mark even lost 3 of the 9 local govt areas in his zone to APC. NASARAWA STATE Although President GEJ won in Nasarawa state but the margin with which he won could have been greater if Labaran Maku (former minister of information) was able to clinch the PDP governorship ticket of the state. Labaran Maku's people, the Eggon-Mada people of Nasarawa state are the strongest PDP supporters in Nasarawa state and they are the largest ethnic stock in Nasarawa state but unfortunately they have not been able to produce the governor of the state since Nasarawa state was carved out of Plateau state in 1996 due to the exploitation of tribal & religious differences by a group of people in the state. The Eggon-Mada people and other PDP supporters in the state were very hopeful that Labaran Maku would be able to clinch the PDP governorship ticket of the state considering his commitment and loyalty to Pres GEJ and PDP. But unfortunately he lost it to one unknown Alhaji Yusuf Agabi and Maku had to decamp to APGA. This unfortunate event led to a loss of vigour among many PDP supporters in the state to participate in the Presidential elections. TARABA STATE Just like Nasarawa state, although President GEJ won in Taraba state but the margin was smaller than expected. The reason for this was the delayed arrival of materials to some LGAs in the state who have more PDP supporters like Ussa, Takum & Jalingo local govt areas. Infact some people had to wait till Sunday night to vote after the saturday election day due to late arrival of materials. Others went home and never returned as they concluded that the materials will never arrive. Also in some APC stronghold areas of Taraba which are mostly dominated by muslim hausa-fulanis, there were reports of numerous cases of underaged voters and this increased APC's votes. KWARA STATE The reason for the poor performance of Pres. GEJ in this state is not an issue because Kwara state although it is classified as a middlebelt state because it falls under North-central in geo-political classification, but socio-culturally and otherwise it is more of a south-western state than a middlebelt state as it is dominated by the Yorubas who most definitely voted in a similar pattern as their fellow south-westernerns. ADAMAWA STATE President GEJ won Adamawa state in 2011 with a good margin, but he lost now in 2015 with a significant margin also, and just like Kwara state the reason for GEJ loosing Adamawa state is not an issue. Adamawa state was one of the worst states hit by the Boko-haram terrorist activities and this displaced more than one-third of the state's population. Unfortunately the areas which were worst hit by the Boko haram members are areas which were dominantly pro-GEJ and pro-PDP. Areas which were under Boko haram control like Michika (home of former PDP governor Boni James Haruna), Madagali (home of acting PDP governor James Bala Ngillari), Hong, Gombi, Mubi north (home of chief of defense staff -Air Marshal Alex Badeh) e.t.c Thank God for the efforts of the Nigerian army that these areas were re-captured, but the residents and indigenes of these areas were displaced till even after the elections. Also, another reason for the poor performance of President GEJ in Adamawa state was the failure of MARKUS GUNDIRI in clincling the PDP governorship candidate of the state. The former impeached governor of the state was Murtala Nyako who was a fulani man and a muslim, so most of the other tribes and christians of Adamawa state gave Markus Gundiri their whole support but unfortunately NUHU RIBADU, another fulani muslim won the PDP governorship ticket. Despite the fact that this result was rejected by the PDP chairman of the state (Joel Madaki), but the divided PDP in the state went ahead with it and Markus Gundiri had to decamp to SDP. This outcome coupled with the Boko haram issue in Adamawa state led to the extremely reduced vigour of the PDP supporters in the state to come out and participate in the elections FCT Just like Nasarawa & Taraba states, Pres GEJ won the FCT, but the margin was extremely slim compared to 2011. President GEJ in his 2011 and 2015 campaigns in the FCT promised the indigenes of FCT to give them a ministerial slot in his government/ an indigenous minister of the FCT, but he failed them woefully on that promise. This lead to the reduced vigour of the PDP supporters of this zone to vote GEJ. There are other areas of the northern minority region like Niger east, southern parts of Kebbi, southern parts of Gombe, Borno, Yobe, Bauchi e.t.c where President GEJ would have gotten more votes than he got in this 2015 elections, but due to similar cases of the reasons stated above in other states of the region he lost those votes. Minority groups of Gombe state for instance were able to deliver 40% of Gombe's votes in 2011 but in 2015 it was just 20% of the state's vote GEJ got. Minority groups of Borno state were able to deliver 25% of Borno state's votes in 2011 but currently, three-quarter of the minority groups of southern Borno are still internally displaced and their lands still under Boko haram control. In summary, President GEJ failed to protect the intrests of the northern minorities and middlebelt people who voted for him massively in 2011 during his government. Many northern christians lost their lives during the post-election violence of 2011 elections just because of their supporting GEJ, churches, houses and other buildings worth millions of naira were lost by many of them especially in places like Yobe, Bauchi, Gombe, Niger, Katsina, Kaduna e.t.c. What did Pres GEJ do to compensate these group of people who suffered all these losses in supporting him? instead he went about identifying with the core northern hausa-fulanis the more, building almajiri schools everywhere for them thinking he would ever be able to get their support forgetting the nature of these people. Just like what happened in Kebbi state in 2011. Bitrus Koka Ushie, a man from the Zuru ethnic minority group of Kebbi state was nominated to serve as the minister representing Kebbi state, but the Hausa majority in Kebbi state rejected the candidature of Ushie out of sheer ethno-religious sentiments because Ushie was a christian from a minority group in Kebbi state. Pres GEJ accepted the rejection of the hausa muslim majority in Kebbi state and dropped Bitrus Ushie and picked another candidate, a hausa muslim to occupy the ministerial slot of Kebbi state. Just imagine that? President GEJ with his hands killed the vigour and hopes with which the northern minority and middlebelt people came out to support him in 2011. So no one should say the middlebelt/northern minorities betrayed Pres GEJ in the 2015 elections. GEJ was the one who betrayed our support instead and he got what he bargained for. http://nowenuse..com/?m=1 |
bigfrancis21:Well the post was not a reply to u. I see Pazienza as a more objective, experienced and knowledgeable person hence i decided to have a litte joke with him, hoping he will enlighten me a little further from that angle, cos if u would read well from the context of this comment i myself knows that such an assertion as the bolded sounds very ridiculous. So learn to understand the context of one's coment b4 making wrong conclusions....Gosh, u are really impossible! |
bigfrancis21:So now u realise we are all black people? when u have been d one tagging all light skin Nigerians as supposedly igbo. pathetic! I only joined in this thread because i witnessed u doin that 'igbo light skin tag' here which u have been corrected on a previous thread, otherwise this kind of thread does not interest me in any way. I am not really interested in the complexion of fulanis in Senegal or Burkina faso. Nigeria is the context at which am pointing from. I really doubt u have been to any part of fulani land or northern Nigeria in ur life, otherwise u would have not need googling for u to know the way the fulanis are. Unlike u i have lived in both the core-northern n southern parts of the country, so i dont need to google to know the way the people from any tribe in Nigeria looks like. I have fulani relatives (cos part of my kinsmen are muslims and they intermarry hausa-fulanis a lot), just as well as i also have igbo relatives. Many of those fulanis u see in google are just identified as fulanis because of their supposed display of fulani culture, but many of them are fulanis who have been mixed with other west african tribes, some of them are even descendants of tribes who were slaves to the fulanis but are now identified as fulanis because they have acquired fulani culture, many of them are also uncivilised nomadic fulanis not found in Nigeria. Those are not the kind of fulanis i am talking about. I am talking mostly about the town fulanis of Nigeria who are mostly found in Adamawa, Taraba, Gombe n Bauchi who see Nigeria as their one and only fatherland and have settled as Nigerian citizens and integrated into the society and accepted civilization, not those wandering nomadic groups who are homeless. If u have ever been to either Adamawa or Gombe and seen the pure town fulanis who are indigenes here, or u have been to Borno state to the Shuwa arab homelands, u would have not made some unnecesary comments u made here. This is why i usually love to debate with people who have practical n experienced knowledge of whatever they are arguing, it makes it easier. |
pazienza:Ok, yes my broda. But just for the records, i am not from the North in the real sense, i am from the middlebelt. Not all of us from the middlebelt like to be adressed even by mistake as 'north'. we are central nigerians. Majority of the tribes from the middlebelt zone dont have many light skins. we have more dark skins because we are the 'true africans' with the oldest origins on african soil unlike u Igbos and fulani who migrated not too long ago from Israel Egypt, Senegal e.t.c. ![]() Many say the reason igbos/ibibios hav many LS was because of the settling of many white catholic missionaries, colonialists n slave traders on their lands, and theae white intermarried with u igbos n ibibios a lot..... . ( i dont know how true or false this is)For the fulanis, shuwa arabs n some Hausas/kanuris, surely no doubt many of them have mixed Arabian n Berber blood. The only tribes with exception in the middlebelt region who have so many LS, are Egbirras. I think the Egbirras should have the largest population of light skins in the middlebelt....6 or 7 in 10 ebiras are light skinned..... Followed by the Igalas n Idomas, i dont know which comes b4 d other....Both tribes should have an equal LS:DS ratio with d igbos at around 5 light skinned per 10 people. I dont think there are any other tribes in the middlebelt with as high numb of light skins near these tribes, except maybe those that have had a history of intermixing with fulanis (though am not so sure). There are some tribes in Adamawa (not fulani) that hav a gud number of LS, My own tribe in Plateau, we do have a gud percentage of light skinned folks compared to other Plateau tribes, making me think we may have had some relationship with fulanis in the past (though i cant tell). |
Nowenuse:As for the slave trade issue, did u ever hear of Hausa-fulanis, shuwa arabs, ebiras e.t.c involving in that? It was u guys at d coastlands and close to the coastlands that participated in it. So there was more tendency of the slave traders noticing igbo light skin than those who were hardly or never involved in trade with them. And as we have been saying, the igbos had a far larger population than their fellow eastern/southern minority groups who also have a gud percentage of light skins. I dont know much about the nature of the Akan, Ewe and other west african groups, so i speak for Naija groups. |
bigfrancis21:So are u trying to say conclusions on issues like this should be made based on the view of Lagos yorubas about LS people? or based on the view of the slaves traders only? pls dont be myopic. Such instances should never be d basis as to which a generalization like this should b made. First of all, if d fairness of igbos is more noticed in the south (cos it doesnt apply in the north), it could b because the igbos are more mobile and larger than the other smaller groups. In the north and parts of the middlebelt, light skin is synonymous to being fulani and not Inyamiri (igbos). Thats why some people from other tribes of the north if they have a LS male child they will name him DANFULANI (or call him fulani jokingly) e.g see someone like Gov Danbaba Danfulani Suntai of Taraba state, he is not fulani by tribe, neither does he or his tribesmen have any relationship with fulani origin, he is Kuteb/Chamba by tribe but his father named him DANFULANI, because of his light skin. So u see how d Lagos igbo tag of LS does not apply in the north/middlebelt but rather d fulani tag, because we from that part of the country are used to seeing more fulani light skins than igbo light skins Just the same way the yorubas are used to seeing more igbo light skins than any other tribe's light skin.....hence the likely igbo tag for any light skinned fellow. Igbirras, Ibibios n fulanis are not as much as igbos in Lagos, so there is no way u should expect the yorubas to recognise their light skins over the igbos |
bigfrancis21:Pls Mr man, i never argued d fact that Igbos had more LS ppl than all the other groups of the south-south or middlebelt, because d igbo population is far larger than those minority groups. My point of arguements were 1) There are other tribes that have a larger LS: DS ratio than igbos e.g Shuwa arabs, Fulani, Egbira and Ibibio-Efik Anybody that knows the people of these tribes very well will agree that the proportion of LS people are greater than that of dark skinned within the tribes. Among igbos, it could be estimated that only 5 out of 10 igbos are light skinned.....can that ever be compared with fulanis or Shuwa arabs were aroud 8 in 10 of their people are light skinned? there are some fulani or shuwa arab places u go to and u will hardly find someome with DS 2) The fairness of the Igbos are more artificial and flawed in many cases compared to those u find among the northern n middlebelt folks. |
ChristyG:I have really observed that u are a lady who argues without intelligence, maturity, objectivity and facts so i decline debating with u further. But just for the records, i only used those stories to make an example to u out of the many instances i have come across, so dont have the misconception that i was passing a judgement only based on my discussion with the Oyo lady. Yeah, Ifelodun has pure yorubas, but Ilorin (the largest city n capital of Kwara) has so many mixed yorubas e.g the likes of the Saraki family. And find out from anyone who knows the political settings of Ilorin very well, they will tell u that the mixed yorubas have a larger political dominance over Ilorin. |
Fulaman198:Pls when u say every fulani, i hope u are referring to only those in Nigeria? cos i know there are so many fulani christians in other west african countries like Gambia n Guinèe. For me i can never call some of those fulani bororo muslims, some dont go to mosques at all and they practice all manner of diabolical activities. Even the real town fulanis/hausanized fulanis do not regard fulani bororo as real muslims. |
pazienza:NO, u are the one who is now saying what u dont know. Well thank God u said the 'young fulani wives' are kept indoors, but as u can see, the picture of the lady i posted was just a young hausa- fulani girl who has not been married. In the hausa, fulani or core-northern society, girls are not kept indoors, only married women in purdah are indoors and the percentage of women who go out and engage in business activities or any other activities are equal or even more than those who lock themselves indoors. It is a core-northern girl from a rich background who is likely to spend all her days indoors just like an igbo girl whose parents are rich also. Those who are not from rich backgrounds in the core north mostly get themselves busy making, selling or hawking things like kuli kuli, kunu, groundnut e.t.c under the scorching northern Nigerian sun which can never be compared to the southern. Besides a typical fulani herdsman's wife, which indoor does she have to stay when they live a nomadic lifestyle? They have to wake up early to milk the cows and still go about hawking 'fura da nono' throughout the day. U have a point in saying core-northern women are kept indoors more, compared to their southern counterparts, but it's not the manner at which u make it sound as if it's 100% of them who always live indoors........A large percentage of them also engage in business activities.....Will u go to a foodstuff market in the core-north and see only men there? no!, women are still more than men in the markets. But for talking about core-northern girls, it's absolutely false. because the poor hausa-fulani woman who believes that she should b indoors believes that she could use her daughter as a means of business by sending the daughter out to hawk n sell. The use of the hijab i can agree is the only major advantage the core-northern girls have over their igbo counterparts |
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