₦airaland Forum

ChristyG:
this mixed yorubas that u are shouting def,they are not more than the pure ones

The mixed yorubas may not be more than the pure ones but the mixed yorubas of Kwara central plis the Nupes, baribas and fulanis of Kwara north may equal the population of the pure yorubas in the state.
so u see?

Also, these mixed yorubas who u deem as small in population but yet they have a stronger political say in the state .Probably I think that is why no person from Kwara south has ever ruled Kwara state, because Kwara south is d stronghold of pure yorubas.

ChristyG:
the yorubas of the SW have never descriminated against the kwara yorubas,many are here in SW with marrying and living with us,many of them are in Yoruba nollywood doing very well for themselves,the likes of femi adebayo,kunle afolayan,adebayo salami,fausat balogun,etc and nobody will remind them of not being from south west but I can't say that for the middle belt,where they are just being used for politics.
they are more that are in support of yorubas in that axis joining d SW than those against it,when this country gets a proper true federalism,am sure they will get it cos they have fighting for it for long.this mixed yorubas that u are shouting def,they are not more than the pure ones

Kogi and Kwara yorubas are not discriminated by SW yorubas, but there are many yorubas in the southwest who do not know of the existence of yorubas outside the southwest
I have interacted with some yorubas from the southwest and do u know that to my amazement many of them are not even aware that indigenous yorubas exist in Kogi?
A particular lady from Oyo state i was speaking with told me that some Kogi people only answer yoruba names but they can never be yorubas, and i was trying to let her understand that those answering yoruba names from Kogi were actually yorubas by tribe but she disagreed that kogi is not part of Yoruba land.
Denying someone of their identity, now tell me, is that not enough discrimination?
When Southwest leaders, elders or governors hold their meetings, Kwara n Kogi yoruba elders n leaders do not attend. That is kimd of preventing them from associating with their people.

I have also heard from Someone who said that during his school days in ABU zaria, a particular scholarship or bursary offer came for Yoruba students to the school. Yoruba students from Kogi n Kwara applied but none of them were granted, as they were told that the scholarship does not include yorubas outside the southwest, that is was meant for only those from Ogun, Oyo, Ekiti, Osun, Ondo n Lagos.
Now tell me, what do u call that?

ChristyG.

Yorubas (mixed n pure yorubas) constitute about 70% of Kwara population, the remaining 30% are not yorubas.
The issue here is determining the percentage of the pure yorubas from the mixed yorubas in Kwara central (Ilorin emirate).
Kwara south people have no problem at all as most of them are pure breed yorubas.

Kogi Yorubas do not have much of a problem because unlike the Kwara people, they were not conquered by d emirate system, although the influence still robbed on them in a way.

How sure are u that the yorubas of Kwara n Kogi will soon get a state of theirs?
Do u know that there are many yorubas of Ilorin ( especially the mixed ilorin yorubas) who are working day and night to ensure that this will not work? because they probably feel that creating a state from them different from Kwara would be an attempt to merge them back with the Southwest, and they prefer to be remain classified as North-central? as they fell that they being part of Southwest will emphasize more of their yorubaness than their emirate/northern origins.

Pls make no mistake, i am not in anway against the yorubas of Kwara n Kogi merging with their southwest brothers n sisters, am in full support of it because one thing is that we from the middlebelt and those from the core-north can hardly regard these yorubas as part of us, as many of us feel that anything yoruba at all belongs to the southwest and this has made these Kwara n Kogi yorubas suffer discrimination in some aspects.

Am only trying to tell u what is on ground, and from my view of things, the problem with d Kogi n Kwara yorubas are the MIXED YORUBAS OF ILORIN, and do u know that unfortunately, these mixed yorubas are the ones who have a greater political say and stronghold in that Kwara state??
This is why when i see u bragging about yorubas being majority in Kwara as if that is all and all, i just look at ur comment and shake my head, cos there are some things u do not understand.

I am not contradicting myself, cos i made it clear that Yorubas of Kwara are an exception to this fact because of their history with Hausa-fulani conquest.

ChristyG:
and how many kwara Yoruba do u know too,u have no proof for the jargons u are writing here,so why should I buy ur own story?the fact is still that yorubas are still d majority in kwara whether u like it or not.we have Yoruba groups in kwara and kogi that trying to form another state from d north,is it dose same people that are now denying their heritage?u are even contradicting urself here,u created a thread about why there are low numbers of Yoruba Muslims marrying Fulani Muslims despite being together in d same state yet u are saying they are denying their Yoruba heritage.why aren't they now marrying the fulanis in large numbers?nigga pls stop contradicting yourself.even in kwara,most yorubas are married to yorubas

Madam, i am from the middlebelt zone, i know Kwara n Kogi areas very well almost as well as i know my own people cos Yorubas in Kwara n Kogi unfortunately for them fell into our zone.
Politically, socially and in many other aspects, their faith is tied with ours and not u tribalistic Yorubas of the south-west.

Go to Lokoja for instance, Lokoja as d capital of Kogi, there are Okun (yoruba) indigenes of Lokoja, there u also find Ebira indigenes and in the same town u find Nupe speaking indigenes n Igala.
All these groups live daily together, intermarry, trade together, e.t.c and some of them speak each other's language, so dont be surprised to find yorubas from Kogi or Kwara who are more used to other middlebelt tribes than their fellow tribalistic yorubas from the hinterlands of Osun, Ogun or Oyo.

Kwara n Kogi yorubas have acquired a great part of culture from influence of middlebelt groups and many of them who although are now yorubas today but they are still proud of their Nupe, Ebira, igala ancestry.
Go to Ayegunle town in Kogi west, one of the largest muslim Okun-Yoruba towns, and u will see that most of the Okun-Yorubas there have Nupe ancestry because due to d fierce wars that took place btw the Okun-yorubas and the Nupes, many Nupe slaves were captured and integrated into Okun society, as well as many Okun slaves who were captured and taken to Nupe land, became Nupenized and subsequently left Bida and migrated again back to Okun land and that was how they took islam to Kogi yoruba areas. Let me pause here.
I know am taking u to a direction of history u know absolutely nothing about.
Just to tell u that i may know more about these middlebelt yorubas than u may know.
So dont just come in here from the Southwest and start speaking for all the Yorubas in Kogi n Kwara as if u know everything about them and what they want.

I am not saying that all of these to make a point that d kogi n kwara yorubas prefer to be with middlebelt than with their fellow yoruba kit n kins, but only to make u understand that these Kogi n Kwara yorubas are diffrent in a way from u Yorubas of southwest, in the sense that their different histories have shaped them in a different way to have a different perspective in some aspects.

Its not a matter of u bragging about whether yorubas are the majority in Kwara or not, but what is the percentage of this Kwara yorubas who are proudly yoruba, (not those who have not been mixed or brainwashed to believe less in their yoruba origin and believe more in their islamic/emirate origin).
It's a matter of u understanding the percentage of these Kwara yorubas who would be ready to die for their yoruba identity and not those who will claim yoruba to u when they like or when they feel they want to get a favor from u and tomoro when they are faced with another decision they will disclaim yoruba and claim something else.

bigfrancis21:
LOL. All those paragraphs up there are totally unnecessary. It was only a fun reply to semitunde's question asking if I was going to ask him of his skin colour. Lol. I don't even care about skin colour. If you read my post well, you would have noticed it was intended to be humorous.

The issue of Igbo's skin colour isn't what I'll dabble into too deeply so as to not appear being obsessed with 'skin colour'. Igbo are over 35 million in number. Now, let's talk math. I love figures. Assuming skin colour conservative ratio of 70:30 for DS vs LS gives about 21.5m vs 13.5m skin ratio. What's the population figure of Akwa Ibomites? Idomas? Igbiras? Assume a generous figure of 10 million for each, how much of that figure is not dark-skinned? All 10 million of them?

Now, listen, for every 1 light-skinned middle belter or Akwa Ibomite that you show me, there are 20 Igbo of them. The huge population of Igbo makes sure of that.

On that very thread, you went about claiming several people, especially Igbo, who were not from the Middle Belt and 'portraying' them as Middle Belters until I called you out on that.

Moreover, I have never claimed anywhere that only Igbo are light-skinned in Nigeria. I know some Yorubas who are light-skinned. 9ce is one of them. On the same middle belt page, I never claimed such. Quote my post, I said 'most likely be Igbo'. On the streets of Lagos, a 'yellow yellow' person is automatically assumed to be 'Omo Ibo' until proven otherwise.

To be honest, I've seen some very light-skinned Igbo that I get baffled myself. The light-skinned guy in the music group, Bracket is one example. He took a picture with a Caucasian one time (along with P Square's cousin - malcoholic) and there was utterly no difference in skin colour between both, the only difference being their different facial structures. https://instagram.com/malcoholic_obinna/p/yXZXY6JSiS/ Phyno is another one too.

By the way, I'm not extolling LS in anyway. I prefer dark-skinned.

Ok i get ur points
Just that ur emphasis on this here again makes me feel that it is a belief system of urs, regardless of the fact that u were speaking out of humour.

Talking about Mathematics, i was speaking based on the ratio/percentage of LS to DS per tribe.
I can boldy say that the ratio of LS: DS in some tribes like Ibibio-Efik, Egbiras, Shuwa Arabs & Fulanis is greater than that of Igbos.
Idomas, Edos & Eastern ijaws may have an equal LS:DS ratio with igbos.
But i know that based on population of the igbos as u say, igbos would have more LS persons.

Another reason is that igbos are more mobile, hence their LS persons tend to be noticed than others.

Yes another reason is that many Igbo LS are not natural. A lot of cosmetics are involved in some cases unlike the LS people u find from the Middlebelt and Far north who tend to be more natural.

Since u are bragging about Igbos population, try comparing urselves with the core northernerns (Hausa-fulanis, Kanuris & Shuwa arabs). Despite the fact that their weather over there in the far north is far harsher than that of the south, yet many of them still manage to keep a wonderful LS.

Wallahi i tell u, if u see the fairness of some of these core-northernerns, u will really admire whether u like LS or not.


See the picture below of a core-northern girl in a common rural/semi urban settings. So natural, spotless. How many igbo ladies in typical rural settings can boast of such??

ChristyG:
pls try and lie reasonable,all d yorubas from kwara I know are proud of their Yoruba heritage,u can't use saraki as an example whose case is political,all dose nupe and Fulani are in d minority and that is a fact.yorubas in kwara that even want to join d SW back,if u are talking about religion then they might be closer to them but culture wise they are not..oyedepo,femi adebayo,kunle afolayan,dare art alade are from that axis and they have denied being yorubas.talk another thing abeg

Thank God u said ALL YORUBAS FROM KWARA U KNOW, how many do u know from ILORIN MAIN TOWN?
Most of these people u mentioned are from Kwara south, the people of Kwara south absolutely have no problem of identity crisis. Kwara south people were never conquered by the fulanis and are not ruled by an emirate. And that is why their yoruba culture and identity is fully intact.
The place of debate here is Ilorin (Kwara central) where the fulanis, hausas n Nupes conquered and migrated to settle massively and have intermixed radically with the original indigenous yorubas.

KWARA NORTH is not Yoruba land, it is inhabited by Nupes, Baribas, Bussawa, fulanis e.t.c.

One thing in Kwara is that at least 90% of the population speak Yoruba either as a 1st or 2nd language.
Even Kwara north that is never yoruba land, yet if u go there, many of the Nupes, bariba e.t.c can speak fluent yoruba.
All Ilorin indigenes are 1st language yoruba speakers.
Most of the fulani and nupes who settled in Ilorin have been yorubanized cos they answer yoruba names and speak the language as native seakers. So how do u tell who is a yoruba from who is not in that Ilorin?
Cos even the original pure yorubas of the land have been seriously intermixed with d Nupes n fulanis by intermarriage and they are all ruled by the fulani islamic emirate.

Thats why u can find a common Ilorin man answering a name like ALHAJI MUSTAPHA ADEWALE DANFULANI.
Now u tell me if he is a yoruba man or a fulani man

rhames:
They are Yorubas and sure proud they are. An average Ilorin man prefers association with the Yorubas for cultural affinity. They only disown their language for political advantage. Sadly it has not paid good dividends to them at all.

Pls get my point.
I did not say all Ilorin people are not proud yorubas, what i said is that some of them are not proud yorubas.
It is a simple cases of identity crisis just as u find amongst the Niger-deltan Igbos, some of them are proud of their igbo ancestry while some others deny their igbo ancestry due to the fact that they have a greater parr of their ancestry from another tribe or it may just b as a result of political incidences in the past.
Ilroin people were conquered by Hausa-fulani jihadists, so it is a normal thing for them to loose a significant part of their culture and acquire some of their conquerors.

There are some ilorin indigenes that are proud of their yoruba ancestry/origin WHILE there are some who deny their yoruba origin regardless of any political reason. It is just a fact because i have come across many instances of such.

bigfrancis21:
Now, back to serious business. I don't quote from any chikolobi website. I quote from well-verified sites, as you can see from a couple of my posts back. In fact, which one have you quoted, o ye almighty all-knowing one? Oh I forgot, Ojukoro the Ilaje Yoruba boy who has never left south west all his entire life suddenly knows everything and carries everything in his head. I see you.

Wait o, that name sounds familiar in Igbo. Ojuokoro (o ju o koro = if it gets full, it gets stuck in Igbo), another Igbo name corrupted in Yoruba.

BigFrancis i think u have a very terrible belief system which u must change.
Why on 'planet Nigeria' do u think that only Igbos have fair-skinned people in Nigeria? That is an extremely myopic, blunt and poor idea or view.

I remember that That was just the way u spoke on a past thread of mine on Handsomeness of Middlebelt men, u were claiming a particular guy could not be a middlebelter but an igbo because of his fair complexion.

Do u think Igbos have more fair people than the fulanis or Akwa ibom people?? What about the Ebiras of Kogi and Idomas of Benue?

There are so many fair people in yoruba land, go to Ondo state and see them almost everywhere.

To me i think If there is any Nigerian group who should take pride in fair skin the most, it should be the Shuwa arabs of Borno, d fulanis or the Ibibio/Efiks, not even Igbos.

Igbos have dark skinned people as much or even more than they have light skinned people, and many of them their fairness is even artificial, so much cosmetics involved.

rhames:
The people of Illorin are 80% Yorubas. Despite the Fulani conquest, they still retain their Yoruba identity to this day.

U are not saying the truth.
Not all Ilorin indigenes consider themselves yorubas, there is a great line of idenity crisis amongst many of the Ilorin indigenes.
Although all of them are yoruba speaking, but some of them reject the Yoruba identity....e.g Olusola Saraki who boldy said that Although he speaks yoruba as his mother tongue and he answers a yoruba name, but thay doesn't mean that he is yoruba.

Not all ilorin yoruba speakers are sure or proud of their yoruba identity. Many of them are prouder of their fulani, hausa or Nupe ancestry/origin.
Thia is sth am very sure of.

senier007:
The op is confused, from the title, I though he will try to answer the question but ends up asking question himself, well base on logic and critical thinking, igbo and yoruba live in the south meaning they are closer to each other that the hausas, in the same vein the hausa are closer to the fulanis that's why there is intermarriage between them, even in ilorin is cuz fulanis are closer to yorubas that's why they are marrying each other there, so tha bottom line is because of the geographical and regional settings that sets the hausa and Fulani away from the yorubas makes inter marriage between them a little bit slower in terms of number. For the sake of clarification, hausa and Fulani are two different ethnic groups that can't be be lumped together as one. Did u ever ask this question, why is there very little or no intermarriage between ijaw and yoruba irrespective of their religion? The answer is the same geographical settings and distance cuz love is not a respecter of either religion or ethnicity.

Abeg u dont have a point talking abt geography my brother.
There is no state in Nigeria where yorubas n igbos are equally indigenes of, but do u know that there are states like Kwara n Niger that both Yorubas and Hausas/fulanis are equally indigenes of?

Geographically Yoruba land is as close to hausa land as it is as close to igbo land. ....
There is no point in u comparing ijaw in marriage to yorubas because Ijaws are a minority Nigerian group.
I was comparing d largest ethnic adherent of islam n christianity and ijaws do not belong here cos they dont have the population unlike Yorubas, Hausas n Igbos.

ecorel:
Pls check b4 writing.. Christianity has been and still is d majority in "my middlebelt"

Pls when i say middlebelt christian minorities, i mean the numerous minority groups of the middlebelt and not the fact that christians are a minority in the middlebelt. No.

Fulaman, i guess u are a muslim, or aren't u?

Then u have ur own lapses because islam is not the ancestral culture or religion of ur ancestors rather it belongs to the arabs.
So u are still not a pure fulani in a sense, rather an 'Islamized fulani' cos there are still fulani traditionalists who keep on to the ancestral culture of their fathers and i guess u are not one.

Fulaboy:
my mum is pure fulani and my dad too but I can't the lang what does that make me

It doesnt make u anything.
U are still a fulani as long as anyone is concerned.
Ability to speak a language perfectly well is absolutely not the criteria for determining ur ethnicity in the Nigerian societies. Ur parentage (especially paternity is).

Hmmm, suprising. But at least i can see where u are coming from.
Cos i know a typical town fulani whether from Adamawa, Gombe or Taraba would never be as 'fulano-centric' as u. LoL.

D only difference btw u and the typical fulani bororo in d bush is that u are educated. Hmm, i really see.

Cos There are some pure town fulanis even in Adamawa, Taraba, Bauchi and Gombe who cannot speak fulfude but speak only hausa....so where do u classify these type of fulanis??

Fulaman198:
I think Muhammadu Buhari does speak Fulfulde according to one other Fulani guy on this forum.

Those "Hausanized Fulanis" are no more Fulani than Wasulu.

But even the Hausas regard and adress some of these Hausanized fulanis as Fulanis. Other neighbouring tribes in some cases also adress these Hausanized fulanis as Fulanis.

U pure fulanis just see yazelves too pure to be on d same category with them.
Those of u fulanis in Adamawa, Taraba, Gombe were lucky ur fore fathers settled in d middlebelt or northern minority groups area, hence they could hardly be absorbed into these smaller groups unlike those whom their fore-fathers settled in Hausa land and have been absorbed to varying extents into Hausa culture.

Do u know that the Nomadic fulani bororo see themselves as better fulanis than u town fulanis in Adamawa and environs??
Cos they keep the ancestral fulani traditional practices/religious rituals to an extent unlike u islamized folks.

Fulaman198:
Too late, I have completely abandoned them

U have, but have all d pure fulanis done that?

Ur opinion is just urs. Shehu Shagari, Muhammad Buhari, Yar'adua e.t.c do not speak fulfude but are mostly identified as fulanis.
Most of these hausanized fulanis are still counted and regard themselves as fulanis.

Fulaman198:
How in the name of Allah Almighty is a 'Hausa-Fulani' and Hausa any different? I don't think the relationship between the people who call themselves Hausa-Fulani and Hausa is a healthy one at that. The so called Hausa-Fulani doesn't know a thing about Fulani culture and can't identify with a Fulani person on any level. Whilst a Hausa-Fulani can identify easily with a Hausa.

You are right to an extent by saying that Hausanized fulanis are more like Hausas and share more in common with hausas.
But one thing is that d fulani ancestry of these hausanized fulanis is still very much intact in most cases, when u see them, they look so much like fulanis in their appearance.
And like i mentioned earlier, some of these hausanized fulanis still know how to speak fulfude, some of them still bear the tribal marks, so i think it would be out of place for u to absolve or totally disconnect these hausanized fulanis from their origin.

Fulaman198:
I don't disagree with this your statement, in fact I wholeheartedly agree with it and embrace it. What I have come to find myself doing is calling these "Hausanized Fulanis" just plain old Hausa.

No my brother. Hausanized fulanis are still very much different from the pure hausas.

Some hausanized fulanis may still manage to be able to speak a few words in fulfude language, but no matter what Hausa remains their native tongue/first language, unlike most of the pure fulanis in Adamawa/Taraba/Gombe axis.

I may create a thread on that
Meanwhile we also have the YORUBANIZED FULANIS in Ilorin.

IBB is neither Nupe nor Gbagyi (at least i can say that assertively based on his paternal heritage).
But maternally he could be otherwise.

IBB is either a hausa or a fulani man who just claims Minna as his place of origin as many hausas n fulanis in Niger are fond of doing. And this is why most people have assumed that IBB is a Gbagyi man.
Ask any true Gbagyi native of Minna, or Niger east in General and he will tell u squarely that IBB is not a gbagyi man.
IBB is not even close to being Nupe, because no Nupe man can claim Minna as his hometown of origin.
Nupes are mostly Indigenous to Niger south LGAs and Minna is not in Niger south.

Fulaman198:
First and foremost, what is a Hausa-Fulani? You are either Hausa or you are Fulani.

Secondly, this is a dumb question. It's like asking why don't Igbo and Yoruba Christians marry each other a lot.....

Culture <> religion, religion is only but a subset of culture.

My friend. I know u are a pure fulani man that is why u are always assertive on a distinct identity for ur fulani people.
But as a pure fulani man from Adamawa, do u think u are the same with the fulanis who have lived centuries in the midst of hausa land and have intermarried drastically down the decades and acquired hausa culture to a large extent?

Most of the fulanis in hausa land have assumed the status of HAUSANIZED FULANIS. They have become linguistically hausa (native hausa speakers) and they hardly answer native pulaar names unlike u Adamawa/Gombe/Taraba fulanis.
And this is why they are fond with the name Hausa-fulanis, or i'd say this was how the name came about.

Fulaman198:
Do you have any statistical information to back up your belief?

Fulaman, how could there be statistical information on this?

Ask most people urself and they will tell u truly this is a fact, just wait for more comments and u'll see.

Are u not wondering how come u are the only one disproving this?

Igbo/yoruba christians intermarry far far more than Hausa/yoruba muslims.

Even amongst the northern n middlebelt christian minorities, we even intermarry with igbos n yorubas far more than yorubas with hausas.

Hausa-fulanis & Yorubas have the largest & 2nd largest muslim populations in Nigeria, but one wonders why intermarriage btween both groups is not so common.

Igbos & Yorubas who have the largest & 2nd largest christian populations in Nigeria intermarry more often than Hausas do with yorubas and i wonder why.

The only area that may be of exception is the ILORIN AREA of Kwara state.....due to the history of Hausa-Fulanis conquering Ilorin and settling with the yorubas there in large numbers and have been intermarrying down the centuries because of the Fulani Islamic monarchy (emirate rulership) that unites them together.

Aside Ilorin, it is quite very difficult for u to find yoruba muslims from the south-west intermarrying with Hausa-fulanis... Why??

Gbagyis are one of the largest ethnic group of the middlebelt region of Nigeria.
Infact i think they occupy the largest land mass area in the middlebelt.

Apart from Abuja-FCT where the Gbagyis dominate, the Gbagyis are also the 2nd largest group in Niger state, in Nasarawa & Kaduna states, the Gbagyis are also amongst the major groups, while in Kogi they are a small minority there.

One thing i dislike abt the Gbagyis is their very timid and primitive nature. They are not very brave and strong willed people, but it seems they are changing gradually and becoming wiser. May God help them.

One point i think the OP forgot to take into consideration is the fact that ladies have a better chance of accentuating or improving their beauty and body features to have a better look.

U see a naturally ugly lady will use so much make up and will end up beautiful or at least averagely beautiful, but as a guy, if u don wowo, u don wowo

And the girls would still be more attracted to d handsome bobos

Also a short girl may accentuate her height defficiency with a nice pair of high heels, but as a guy u are short, u are short, u go for girls of ur level...LoL

The attention aspect is the aspect i agree with the most.
Ladies always get the attention. U'll see a lady will post an obviously ugly picture online and so many foolish guyz will just be commenting ''lookin beautiful, cool pix'' just to flatter her ego...bullshit

Eluwilussit:
Na wa for you o. Accommodating ke? It is a privilege to host the FCT. If they don't like, I suggest we build it elsewhere. Maybe we should have 6 FCTs. One in each region. Our collective wealth was used to develop their land into one of the most beautiful cities in the world at the expense of the SS, where the money comes from.

I don't support their demand but they should not be marginalized either. If they have qualified people, they should be appointed based on merit and not quota. Abuja belongs to all nigerians as our capital.

Yes Abuja belongs to all of us as d capital of the nation just as Lagos used to belong to all of us? What about now that Lagos is no longer FCT, does it still belong to all Nigerians equally?
What if d fct area is stripped of being the capital tomoro, do u think that beautiful city will still belong equally to all Nigerians?

Aside that, FCT has its indigenes, d land was not a virgin land before FCT was taken there, the indigenes of FCT were in states where they enjoyed equal rights as other Nigerians in states, before they were carved away from their states to form
FCT, so at least they should still be given equal rights as other Nigerians who are in states.

Hmm, so sad that i wasnt able to join this thread from the begining.
But as a guy born and bred in Warri (though am not from Delta state). I can say that the Itsekiris actually own the 'historical Warri area'. But the truth is that the definition of Warri in the 1900 and the definition of warri today are very different.
Warri Metropolitan area has come to cover other places as Uvwie LGA (Effurun) and some parts of Udu LGA.

Infact Warri south & Uvwie LGAs are the 2 major Lgas that account for Warri metropolitan population.
Warri south LGA has slightly more Itsekiri communities than Urhobo and Ijaws, while Uvwie LGA on the other hand is over 90% owned by Urhobos with fewer itsekiris.

If u talk of whole population of Warri urban area, it is very clear that Urhobos dominate both the general population and the indigenous population.
But if u talk of Warri area proper (historical Warri area) which is much of Warri south LGA, Itsekiris then have to dominate the indigenous population, but i dont think they can dominate the general overall population.

In summary, the truth is that Warri as a city today belongs to all the 3 tribes (Urhobo, Ijaws n Itsekiris).

tpiaP:
Are yorubas precluded from identifying as middle belt?

Is the term restricted to non yorubas.

Yorubas in d middlebelt incidentally found themselves in the region as a result of this faulty geo-political classifications of today, otherwise yorubas are not geographically nor culturally or historically middlebelt.
Middlebelt identity is more or less for d minority groups i think.

Igalas, idomas, ebiras, Tivs, Jukuns, Beroms, Nupes, Gwaris, Katafs, Taroks, Eggons and so many more are the real middlebelters

Foolish woman! u are talkin abt functioning as a first lady when ur husband says there shall bw nothin like that. Buhari said he shall scrap the office of first lady.
Besides u are supposed to be in Purdah, what are u looking for outside?
Tah! enter kitchen jarry.

Shameless woman! .....married to a man old enough to be ur grandfather.
U think we dont know u are hiding a bomb in that ur hijab.

Maple:
Blatant lie. Gowon is from a minotity tribe called Ngas. IBB is Nupe, a minority tribe. Abatcha is kanuri, a minority tribe. Abdulsalami is gwari, a minority tribe....no more lies to find sympathy for your Otueke-bound son. Come May 2015, GMB would be sworn in and nothing would happen.

As a matter of fact, Nigerians are not bothered with Chiwawa militants when there's a lion (bokoharam) next door. When GMB decimates Boko Haram finish , you chiwawa militants would crawl out from your creeks and beg for mercy.

Pls dont say what u are not sure of.
Neither IBB nor Abdulsalami are gwari or Nupe, d fact that they claim they are from Niger state does not make them one of the indigenois tribes of Niger state.
Both men are hausa-fulanis by origin, just like the current governor of the state whose father was a hausa immigrant from Sokoto.

Now i know that nairaland admins are one sided, if thos post was against GEJ, It would have made front page.
What are d moderators here doin? This is a post for FP !!

kazmanbanjoko:
Where is olamide baddo?

Are u sure u read d title of the thread well b4 comenting?