₦airaland Forum

BabaRamota1980:
I dont need to know every name across Yorubaland, I just need to know syllable structure in Yoruba lexivon and naming pattern that I can reject misfits.

Gidado is not Hausa name sir. It is Fulani hybrid name. Fulani names typically end in -----DO.

It is a fulanized Hausa name. Gida is house in Hausa. Fulanis fulanized many Hausa words to sound like theirs.

These fulanized Hausa and Yorubanized Hausa names are very common among some Yorubas.
Especially those in Kwara, Kogi & Ekiti axis who had a lot of contact with Fulanis, Hausas, Nupes and other neighbouring middle belt tribes like Ebiras, Bassas, Baribas & Kakandas who adopted these names from the core-north.

mediaxtra:
Once more i feel proud to be ONYE ANAMBARA.
Tnx for all these. Yes, it might not be bed of roses in the state, but believ me this article is correct n can never b found wanting in all ramifications.
There is one unique thing that can hardly be found in other states. There is no remote village in Anambra. The industrous nature of Anambra ppl has brought massive development even in the villages that one can hardly classify any town as a typical village without the presence of amenities found in the cities.
Amost all the villages in the state have working street light, good roads, big markets, schools etc.
What more can one say.
Long live Anambra

Great urbanization is easier for Anambra people or you Igbos in general because you have a small landmass and a high population (high population density).
This is both an advantage and disadvantage for you guys.

Lagos State is slightly smaller than Anambra and it has merged into one gigantic urban conglomerate. ..... You guys can turn the entire Anambra to a kind of Lagos State by returning to invest home massively and making the state very conducive for settlers. Think about this.

Brugo:



This guy is using the FFK/Fayose technique on omoyibos.

Massage their egos to get them to act normal.

As evidenced in Nairaland, ipobs are paranoid and are the most tribalistic people in this contraption called Nigeria.

You said they are steeped in culture. Yes, a culture of greed, fraud and sharp practices in general. Before Christmas, yet another ipob will be caught committing crime in Asia. Na normal tin.

No shame. Money is money. No clean money, no dirty money. Money is all that matters regardless of the method they employ. Give them a society that polices the finance of its citizens and you’ll hear them crying about marginalisation.

Corper if you know what’s good for you, leave that state. Don’t invest there. Even their brothers run away from home to come to the southwest for business and deveropment.

You are an irredeemable tribalist.
I am not Igbo or even a Southerner but to me all Southerners have almost an equal greed for money and material things except Akwa Ibom-Cross River axis which is comparatively lower.

Otherwise how do you explain the daily ritual killings, skull minnings and human abattoirs all over the Southwest region? Or the Yahoo and Yahoo plus craze among your people which has spread into Edo\Delta axis?

Offpoint:
Like there's no Okpa in Delta State?

I've never been to any state in Nigeria where there's no Okpa.

Actually, Okpa is not common in Southern Delta (the Warri axis). It is more common in Benin and this is surprising.

BabaRamota1980:
First and foremost, there is no family compound in Yorubaland called GIDADO, which is the surname the corper identified himself.

Tell him to re-identify.

He could be from Kwara or Kogi.. Gidado is a Hausa name actually. But how do u know every family name across the length and breadth of Yorubaland? Are u for real?

obailala:
No snake can venom can kill even a rabbit in 4 mins, let alone a human.

I was watching a documentary on Natgeo wild and I heard the commentator say something like this, that a certain snake's bite can kill an adult man within 5 minutes.
It was a documentary on the most poisonous snakes in the world. So, he may be correct.

LegendHero:
You have a lot to say about us tho but you got a lot of things wrong. The Igbos are the most double mouthed people in the world in terms of politics. Even Ojukwu campaigned openly for Shagari after coming back from exile.

There are lot of info with me that give credence to that fact and I’m not going to start a lengthy essay to explain that. Ain’t the Igbos the one insulting Hausa Fulani only to backtrack and support Atiku a Fulani Muslim in the last election.

I see absolutely nothing wrong or two-faced about Ojukwu involving in Nigerian politics after he was permitted back into Nigeria. For me I see it that he was willing to let go the ugly past and reintegrate into the Nigerian society.
Atiku was the only option Igbos had... Didn't my people and the SS also vote for Atiku despite us hating Fulanis?
Atiku is a fulani worth supporting, he has always been known to be a secularist, liberalist and highly detribalised Nigerian. If most core-northerners were like him, do you think we'll be having all the trouble we are in Nigeria today?

What most of you Nigerians call double mouth in politics is just absurd. I’m real politics there shouldn’t be bloc vote from a region. What is the beauty of democracy when everyone vote in a similar pattern? Even among ourselves the Yoruba state votes are actually almost 60/40 maximum and even in the last election Atiku got at least 40% of the vote casted. Do you mean voting without bloc means being double mouthed?

If Nigeria had been a progressive country where our political parties have real agendas and we were probably voting between a liberal party and a conservative party or a green party, then voting 50\50 or 60\40 can be considered a good and progressive thing... Not our useless retrogressive politics here based on tribalism and religion.

Besides, 90% of votes would have come from your Yoruba land if the presidential election was a Yoruba vs another ethnic group in the major parties, just as it happened with Abiola & Tofa.

So, if the next election, a Yoruba candidate reps APC against an Igbo or Hausa PDP candidate and we see a 50\50 vote from your region, only then can we truly agree that your people play very progressive and detribalised politics.
This of course we know is impossible.

I’m happy that you said you will wish to be with the Igbos in a separate country. Good luck with that and I hope your tribe find succor and peace among them.

Lol, of course this would be our best option in a dog eat dog society like Nigeria. It won't be an easy task because Igbos are quite difficult to get along with and we are very very much culturally and mentally different from them.
Christianity is like the only common thing we have with them.

im not sorry that the Yorubas are tribalistic, we are actually living like a separate country within Nigeria. Our culture, music, economical sojourns, etc manifested to that fact because we’ve always seen that Nigeria will never be one.

Most Yorubas will deny this to the core. I wish most of them accepted it more, at least it will enlighten the rest of us who foolishly live believing in one Nigeria in our majority and paying the ultimate price for the unity of this country while other reaps the benefits more with their radical tribalism.

I don’t even know how to defend the attitude of a few Yorubas and how you suddenly use that to judge a whole tribe. I asked the Yoruba wrongs against the middle belt and you told me it’s just coz of the culture of silence of the Yorubas against the travails of you guys in the hand of the core-north. Well I’m sorry but I don’t think anyone chose the Yorubas as the police or different ethnicities in Nigeria.

Those few Yorubas as well as many others I have come across who have the same mentality are the true depiction of a typical Yoruba man or should I say Yoruba Muslim.

Go back and re-read my previous post better. I never said Yorubas wronged us by not helping our plight or sufferings.
Rather, I said you guys wrong us by your culture of omission and inaction like the case of Kwara which u people have left for Hausa fulani unchallenged AND by your ignorance on the demographics of the north which exhalts the influence and ego of the Hausa fulanis.

Of course we cannot blame you guys for not fighting our battles. That would be unreasonable. We can and should fight our own battles.
We can only blame you guys for strengthening our enemies knowingly and unknowingly, by action and inaction. I hope u get the point.

The Igbo seems to be your ally now because you have a common enemy and they also had the same culture of domination like the core north and even if you exist in the same country with them you will still be faced with the same issue. Just that it won’t be related to killings like the north has done. [quote]Igbo domination brings about positive competition of development devoid of bloodshed. .... I will welcome it whole-heartedly. It will be more beneficial to my people, cos it will make us sit up and work harder... Like I told you earlier, we are naturally very passive and laid back. This is something that must change.
Even if the Niger deltan minorities do not want an alliance with the Igbos, people like me will still mobilize our people to be United with the Igbos.
Besides, in the event of a future country between my people and Igbos, it would be a country like the UK. A loosed Confederacy where secession will be readily available in the Constitution and there will be heavy checks and balances to prevent outright domination of one over another.
We cannot leave Nigeria with all these experiences and still make the same mistakes, Haba.

[quote]The Yorubas actually done need anyone else coz we can stand on our own. We’ve been carrying out that experiment since 1914 and I think we can actually live independent of any group so you’re free to choose your allies.

Well, it won't be a bad idea for you guys to be alone. Afterall you will still be a larger country with a larger population compared to other West African nations.
The only thing is that you guys will be threatened with the existence of more powerful neighbours, in the eventuality of a United SS\SE\MB country and Northern Muslim country.
Also, if Nigeria divides in a chaotic and brutal manner, you guys may loose Kwara or at least Ilorin and even possibly Lokoja to the Northern Muslims cos the rest of us will not help you fight the core-north for your territory.
Take it from me, if your neighbouring minority tribes like the Nupes, Baribas & Ebiras take sides with the core-north, it will not be in your favour in the long run... Unless of course, you people do not mind loosing your territory to the core-north.

Cos the core-north are predators. If they see that the MB\SS\SE coalition is too strong for them, they may end up preying on you Yorubas.
Think about it.

Even a United MB\SS\SE can also prey on Yoruba land! Edos & Ijaws would love the idea of claiming back the minority Ijaw speaking and Edoid and Itsekiri ethnic groups in Ondo! And this may turn worse than expected.
Anyway, think about it. Cos no man can survive as an island. Hausa fulanis have Niger republic as a big Ally behind their back ever ready for anything.. This is why an alliance with Benin-Togo would be the best for your ppl. Think about it.

You got it wrong about Awolowo tho about the northern minorities. Why he did that was not because of any revenge it’s just that he wanted each region to be even such that no region will dominate over the other in Nigeria in terms of number. There are numerous leaders in the middlebelt that wanted to be free of the north. If not for the Biafra war that Gowon led that placated the middle belt people, the middle belt would have broken from the north.

I think you shouldn't be the one lecturing me about this. Lol. Well, let's assume what u say about Awo is true. However, Gowon actually broke my people away from the North when he created the first 12 states, same way he broke Rivers and Cross River from Eastern region.

The only thing was that it would have been far better if we had gotten our own independent region like the Midwest had under a decentralized regional govt. .... Not the eventually failed state govt system in a centralized govt.
It was Babangida who brought back all these North-central and geopolitical bullshit and he and other military leaders with state fragmentations which further weakened the powers of the states.

Oh lest I forget, I’m also a Yoruba Muslim like you guys love to call us. I don’t share that mindset of the people you met in the bus and I’m very sure numerous Muslim Yorubas don’t share that mindset also. Many people don’t even know there are lot of Christians in the north and we really have a culture of not caring to much about happenings in other areas (which could be a disadvantage to us tho). Why will I even discriminate when my mom is a practicing Christian and my dad is a Muslim cohabiting peacefully for over several decades.

Two of my brothers are Christians and the remaining of my sibilings are muslims and we celebrate both Christmas and Ileya at our house. You will definitely see this same scenario play out in several families across the south west. I’m very sure that MURIC president will also have a Christian in his family if you can dig deeper. It will be hard to see an extended family in Nigeria that won’t have an outlier or a different religion.

Because the Yorubas don’t see much of the religious divide made us blind to the atrocities in the North. Tbh I always think everyone in the north are Hausa and Fulani when growing up.

Either way it’s nice that you’re tryna align with our brothers in the SE. I wish you and your tribe best of luck.

Well, once upon a time the Middlebelt and all northern minorities enjoyed this religious Harmony and interrelationship.... My mother was both a Muslim and Christian while growing up . Her immediate junior sister till date is a Muslim and married a Fulani.
However, all these have changed with the exposure of the religious bigotry and agendas of the Hausa fulanis....

I also hope it gets worse so that the chaff can be separated from the grain like the case of the Indian partition.
I keep on telling the indigenous middlebelt muslims, if they continue supporting the Hausa fulanis, a time will come when there will be a partition... All Muslims will leave Plateau, Southern Kaduna & Taraba while Adamawa & Nasarawa will be heavily partitioned, pushing muslims to small enclaves. This may also spill into FCT & Niger and all the other northern states... Christians will also leave the core-north and the entire 19 northern states will heavily divided along religious lines just as Kaduna city and Jos are today.
Afterall, the expulsion of Muslims have already began over the years in parts of Plateau, South Kaduna, Taraba and Adamawa.

You can call me a bigot, but my people did not start it. Hausa fulanis did and the Middlebelt Muslims supported them.

You Yoruba Muslims are folk\cultural Muslims. You can always live in peace with your Christian Brothers and sisters.
Hausas were like that in the past until Fulanis came along... And now, Hausas treat even their own indigenous minority Maguzawa christians like trash, how much more us who are not Hausas.

LegendHero:
I understand what you’re saying but again you’re wrong about Ibadan. You should never compare Ibadan to Jos. It’s just incomparable.

I’m an Ibadan indigene and it’s just absurd for people to use Oja-Oba to Gate axis of Ibadan ( which are mostly brown roof buildings) to judge the whole Ibadan. In terms of size Ibadan dwarfs major cities in Nigeria and I can boldly tell you that if you know Ibadan well you will know we got a lot of nice buildings that will supersede anyone you’re talking about if your measuring them in terms of numbers.

Starting from Podo area in oluyole local government, down to New garage side of Ibadan you will see nice houses. From new garage to orita- challenge, you’ll see nice houses. If you go to oluyole estate, there are lot of nice houses. If you go to Mobil area you’ll see houses. Ring road side. Same thing as apata axis. We have Iyaganku GRA, Alalubosa Estate, Bodija estate, and a lot of places that make more sense. If you’re judging these places in terms of land area it’s gonna be almost at par with those other places you mention. Mind you I don’t even know ibadan Behind places much coz I’ve left Ibadan several years ago. I’m just calling those area I’ve been to.

Again what do you mean by Ibadan are not educated up to Jos people? Its so funny that you know little about Ibadan lol. There is no family house you will see that dosen’t have a graduate in Ibadan. Stop judging Ibadan with the interior side (brown roof ). Please stop trying to even compare the educational indices of Ibadan with jos. It’s just incomparable.

The malls in Ibadan alone might actually be more than 3 or more states of the middle belt combined, the purchasing power of Ibadan people is huge and if you’re talking about industries you can never compare Ibadan to jos.

If not because of the rubbish Nigeria that stopped the growth of Ibadan, it would have surpassed many states within the SW. Ibadan used to be the regional headquarters of the Yorubas and that is evident in the investment of the odua group in Ibadan.

It’s just insane that ignorant people always judge Ibadan with the brown roof concentrated in a certain axis.

Good to see you listing the modern parts of Ibadan, like I said earlier, I know they exist, but my question is what is the percentage of the modern parts in respect to the old parts?

I used to think the old part of Ibadan was in the minority not until I used Google maps to view the entire city and I discovered that the old Ibadan of rusty roofs and houses is the overwhelming majority of the city.
So for God's sake, how do you expect us not to judge Ibadan with the old city? When the old city is in the majority?
Kano as an ancient pre-colonial city also has a very large old city too but it is a minority or something like a 50\50 with the modern parts because Hausa people renovate their houses.

And it's not just Ibadan alone, when one goes to Oshogbo, Abeokuta, Ogbomosho, Ife, Iwo, Ikinrun, it's almost the same thing. Although the modern parts of Abeokuta is larger or same size with the old parts in my opinion. So, it's a phenomenon all over Yoruba land.
In my view, Yoruba states are experiencing a serious brain drain as all the best minds, middle class, intelligent, young and savvy people go to live in Lagos and do not return investments to their hometowns.
This is why Ibadan can never be compared with Jos....
I live in Warri and have lived in Benin (2 of the 5 largest and most urbanized cities in the SE\SS) and I can confidently say that Jos is better than both cities, except of course when it comes to money. Jos is very neat and far well organized compared to these places.
If not for the recurring crisis that rocked Jos and saw to the burning down of the Jos ultra-modern market (the largest of it's kind in Africa), Ibadan would have not measured up Jos in Commerce. Jos is very green as it is the only city in West Africa with a natural wildlife park in the center of the city.
So, take it or leave it, Jos is better or on par with Ibadan in all ramifications apart from Industries & Commerce.

For me, I think it is you Yorubas that allowed the fall of Ibadan by mass migration to Lagos.
Abuja is now becoming a threat to Kaduna & Jos but it still will never be able to 'braindrain' both cities. Never. We will not accept it.

Yes, it’s nice investing in Nigeria like you said, Nigeria is ripe for investment just that you have to carry out a lot of market research coz there are lot of investment that won’t stand the test of time due to Nigeria situation. The first thing I did after my undergrad in Nigeria was to find a way to come here for masters. The funniest thing is that I used the same resources on Nairaland “USA student visa section” to get necessary information to travel out before I joined the politics section.

If you have an undergrad degree in Nigeria, I will advise you apply for masters in USA. If you graduate your masters you will get job that pays far more than anything you will ever get in Canada. As a software engineer (mind you, I did geology in my undergrad and studies industrial Engineering as masters. Now I’m working in a software related field i.e. your undergrad course does not matter in USA), your starting salary in some states in the USA before tax will be at least $9000 per month. Even if you’re gonna pay tax and other stuffs you will still be left with a lot to help business back in Naija.

Although you said you already had a Canada slot, it’s better you travel to Canada and then use the travel advantage to apply for USA masters too. Although Canada got a better immigration system but you can always transit from F1 visa to H1B here if you have a degree in STEM courses.

You can get everything you need on Nairaland student visa section and you can also dm me if you need my help. I’ve helped lot of guys on Nairaland also when they need my help and most of them are here. It’s a continuum.

We can always remain in touch here and it’s nice having a conversation with you. Be bless bro.

Wow, thanks a lot for the advice.
Yes I know USA pays so much more than Canada and I think I will look towards the USA as soon as I get my Canadian PR which will come 2 years after working in Canada.
Apparently, I will be eligible for tuition free tertiary education in Canada as a tax payer, so I don't think I will ignore this huge opportunity to spend a huge amount of money on American education.
I can still take advantage of the American job market right from Canada with a master's degree from a Canadian university, or don't you think?

Yes I will definitely do my research before investing in the Nigerian market.

Wow, who would have known that you were such a young ambitious, enlightened and exposed fellow.... I and probably many others here see you as a local tribalist and Yoruba supremacist. .
Can you tell me how someone like you still have the time to do all the tribal banters on nairaland and how did you become so 'tribalist' or pro-yoruba. I am interested.

LegendHero:
I don’t like going around in circles. It’s just absurd to claim jos is developed that all cities in the SW except Lagos. That’s a delusional statement bro.

What is the metrics you’re using for your comparison? Economy, education, industry, purchasing power, infrastructure, agriculture, entertainment? What exactly is called development.

The white people like Jos because it is a plateau area with a weather closer to theirs. It’s not because it is the most developed. That is the only reason.

Well I’m not presently in Nigeria also, I’m 25, I had my masters in USA some years ago and working in a very reputable software company. I have a non-bank MFI (Microfinance institution) in Akure to be precise and I think I’m trying my own part to alleviate the traders suffering especially with giving out loans with a very low interest rate.

Of course you can pm me and we can be friends. I don’t need any proof from you coz it won’t do me any good or bad. I believe you don’t need to proof to anyone that you’re rich coz why do you need to prove your success to any mortal?

I was provoked by some guys on here that time boasting about their wealth (audio tho) and I told them I drive a new Benz CLA 2018 (you can look up the price). They had to shut the bleep up when I uploaded the pics on here and everyone knew their levels. Just because it’s not in the culture of the Yorubas to brag about wealth like other tribes does not mean we are poor.

Good luck in your sojourn to Canada. It’s a very good country with more friendly immigration system and I’m very sure you will excel in that country.

You are welcome to dm me tho.

Wow, you really seem like a nice person from the inside. Actually, Yorubas are a nice people. Very social and down to earth. Personally, I and my people do not really have a problem with Yorubas. Politics fuelled by tribalism I guess is the factor that will see to an increasing wedge between us and this is very unfortunate.

Personally I see Nigeria going the way of old India.
Hausa fulanis will end up as Pakistan (the Islamic extremists who are going to self destruction)
You Yorubas as Bangladesh (who were United with Pakistan but broke away because they loved their culture more than religion)
and Igbos, my people and SS minorities as India (the large and diverse country United by a religious majority)..... I may be wrong though

Anyway, I love the fact that you went abroad and still invested in Nigeria.. This is the mindset I have too. It's great. Before the end of next year I will be starting up a movie industry for my people. We have a market of 25 million people yet Hausa movies dominate us.. This has to stop.

It's so unfortunate that young people like yourself and I who are supposed to be strongly United in the efforts to positively unite and influence the lives of Africans are toeing the same path of destructive tribalism which our forebearers did. ....
Anyway, it may not be as destructive as I think cos from the ashes spring out new life as they say....

Nigeria as a country was a mishmash of the Europeans and we were never meant to be under the same political space, especially considering how we have evolved differently.
Europeans fought wars for centuries over borders before they came to the political stability they enjoy today and yet there are still minor divisions.

Anyway, Ibadan is the only SW city that can compare Jos in any ramifications....
Ibadan has more money and industry than Jos and is bigger than Jos in size.... Since part of Jos market got burnt (Ibadan should have overtaken Jos in commerce).
Jos however is far more clean, neat and sane than Ibadan.
Houses in Jos look better and more modern than Ibadan where 90% of the houses look rusty, ancient and dillapidated.
Streets in Jos are more well outlined and paved compared to Ibadan with congested old rusty houses which do not have well defined streets.

I will never accept that Ibadan is more educated than Jos cos a large chunk of the old Ibadan city do not look like people who are educated, they look like people from my village.
Hausa settlers in Jos are the only reason why Jos will not boast of over 90% literacy rate. There are 2 private varsities in Jos, a federal one, a polythecnic, many missionary schools e.t.c.
People in Jos in majority are younger and look neater, dress better and overall look more civilized than Ibadan where there are so many dirty old people with large cat scratch tribal marks shouting AH AH EGBAMI OO and gulping Ewedu soup
Ibadan is a large urbanized conglomeration of villages, nothing more.
Yes, there is the modern part of Ibadan, which looks nice and beautiful, just that it is only like 10% of the city. ..... Meanwhile if you go to the poorest parts of Jos, you will still see so many new and modern houses with well paved and outline streets, not one gigantic mess like Ibadan.


See, as a young, enlightened and exposed Yoruba man, I advice you to lead a kind of revolution for your people..... Your people should go back to their hometowns to demolish and renovate their old houses and build new ones or at least change their roofs for fvcks sake!.

When I see Igbo land, I am challenged... Go to villages in Igbo land and the kind of buildings you see make you amazed.
Igbos have a kind of law or culture that mandates building a new house in your village as you succeed.
I admit, my own people have a similar problem with you Yorubas, in the sense that all of us build our new houses in Jos and leave our villages and hometowns like that... However, abeg, we still change the roofs of our old houses unlike you Yorubas.
Many people say they are afraid to go back to the villages to build because they are afraid of witches and wizards. I understand this a lot cos I am from a culture with so much witchcraft too, however at least people can still send money for the renovation of old houses in their hometowns na. One must not build a new one to attract the attention of witches and wizards, abi how u see am?

Like I was saying, Igbos challenge me with the way they develop their villages hence I hope to engage in massive sensitization of my people to encourage them to build in our villages and towns... My hometown has produced a deputy Senate president of Nigeria and over 100 millionaires, yet the kind of houses you see in the town is not commensurate with these achievements. Everyone builds their mansions in Jos and Abuja.
This must change.

LegendHero:
You are myopic in your reasoning bro and you’re not seeing things as a whole. The Igbos you thought we’re supporting you is just for the current political terrain and the Yorubas alliance with the core-north was just as happening that started in 2015.

Through Nigeria’s history, the Yorubas have always been politically enemies of the north and it is recorded in many historical event. I can quote know you understood Nigeria history well and I wouldn’t want to bother you with past events to justify my assertions.

Well I am not someone who will tell outright lies in a bid to defend my people like you Southerners and core-northerners do. This is not a trait of my people, so I'll say yes, you are correct, this is the first time Yorubas as a majority were alligning with the core-north.

It's just so unfortunate that this period coincides with the awakening of my people. So if this alliance doesn't die in the nearest future, my people will evolve to be anti-yoruba and more pro-Igbo because we can never be on the sides of anyone who supports the core-north.

The Yorubas have some religious connection with the north which explains why some of them had some soft spot for the north. It’s also the same with the Christians in the middle belt which lot of Yorubas had soft spot for coz of the religious faith.

Do you even know Awolowo was so supportive of the northern minorities (now Middle belt ) such that he was in alliance with them to break the north into fragments and Azikwe never subscribed to that fact. I have the evidence for all this.

Exactly, Yorubas have a strong religious connection with the north and this will always serve as a huge deal breaker with my people.. Hausa fulanis have made us hate and resent Islam and everything that comes with it..

When I was travelling to Kwara recently from Warri and I engaged in a serious debate with 2 Yoruba Muslims, I understood why my people will naturally evolve to be anti-yoruba.
Yoruba Muslims will never be as terrible as Hausa fulanis in action, but by heart, they are very much similar with Hausa fulanis.
Yoruba Muslims are just like the indigenous Muslims we have in Plateau & Nasarawa, who are evil by heart and not by actions.

Abeg save that lie, most Yoruba Christians do not care or give a shit about northern Christians.. The only ones who do are the likes of Oyedepo, who have lived in the north and have churches which my people are a part of, hence are also affected by any destructions in our land.
Meanwhile, Igbos whom my people worked against in the Biafran war and killed still show more sympathy towards my people compared to Yoruba Christians (with or without politics).

You see why I like Igbos more than u Yorubas?, Igbos are like Russians who are very straightforward.. while you Yorubas are like the West who are very cunning and unreliable.
If an Igbo likes you, he likes you, if he hates you, he tells you to your face. He doesn't pretend about it.... Also, if an Igbo man starts supporting you, he does so forever, he doesn't change drastically because of his immediate personal benefits, like Sowore who supported Buhari drastically in 2015 and he is now fighting against him.
This is why oftentimes, you Yorubas accuse Igbos for playing emotional politics and claim they are not being sophisticated.

This is why I have long come to the conclusion that Igbos are the best allies my people can ever have in Nigeria and I will push to make sure this alliance works in my lifetime.

Zik was a confused Mumu who thinks he is a pan-Nigerian or pan-africanist just like our own Yakubu Gowon who was a Hausa puppet. That is why most of his own Igbo people do not even respect him.
Awolowo could have supported Northern & Eastern minorities secession not because he loved or cared about us but because he wanted to revenge for the secession of his own western minorities which the north & East supported.

I understand why you’re talking like this, it’s about your people and the pain you suffered in the hands of the Hausa-Fulanis, but how does it concern the Yorubas?

Take a good look at Kwara state. A place that belongs to Yorubas but is under the direct political and cultural scope and advantage of the Hausa-fulanis which these same Hausa fulanis use to boost their advantage, yet you guys have never done anything about it.
You guys don't even talk about it and shamelessly lie to make it look like it means nothing.
My people (minority tribes in the north) are overthrowing the Emirates in their areas to establish chiefdoms, yet a shameless majority tribe like you can do nothing.
Rather from time to time, since post independence where your Awo betrayed Zik and took sides with the north against Biafra and after the war, your leaders went to the north to thank them for sparing your lives.
Now your people enter into an alliance of subserviency with the same people who have been oppressing and looking down on you for decades and you want me to have any respect and regards for a tribe like yours?

The same way I despise the Hausas, Nupes and other northern Muslim tribes for being conquered and subservient foóls to the fulanis is the same sentiment I have for you guys.

Do you mean the alliance formed with the Hausas in 2015 by the Yorubas is the beginning of the many sins of the Yoruba you talked about? Did Nigeria started in 2015? Can you tell me one instance where you think the Yorubas supported the core North against you?

It's exactly what I just mentioned above.
You Yorubas commit a sin of omission in support to the core-north.
For example, A foreigner once made a post online about the religious divides of Nigeria and most Yorubas who responded to that post were arguing that Nigeria is predominantly Muslim because the north is overwhelmingly muslim and the south is divided because of Yoruba Muslims.... It was Plateau & Southern Kd people who came to that post to correct your people's stupidity and make them know that at least ⅓ of the north are Christian minorities..... But your people were arguing stupidly because just as you told me earlier, to you, the entire North is Hausa and you don't care to know about the difference.
And mind you, the example I gave above is just one instance among many I have witnessed.

Like those 2 Yoruba guys I debated with on my way to Kwara, they blatantly told me that no form of injustice exists towards Northern christians in the north, that they have both lived in Kadunas state and religious discrimination and agenda against Northern Christians doesn't exist. ..... I just shook my head.

Imagine the kind of mentality most Yorubas have and you people are the same people who have dominated our news media before the advent of social media.... These are the kind of lies you must have been feeding to the national and international piblic.
You want to know the crime your people has committed and keep on comitting against my people? It is the crime of omission, ignorance and stupidity with which you guys empower the core-north, but you may not be aware.
See how Yorubas were overestimating the population and stupidity of the core-north in the last election, all in a bid to spite Igbos and you don't know how much this feeds off the Ego of these core-northerners who are encouraged to continue with their impunity and stupidity.

I can also see that you are a religious bigot, a trait you shared with the core-north. You tend to have a lot of soft spot for Christians and always most time hate on the muslims. Is that the genesis of your animosity against the Yorubas?

I think it is very much okay if I am a religious bigot. If most of my people have been like me since decades ago, Nigeria would have been divided and we would have been far better off than we are today.
Who is a worse bigot than the Hausa fulanis whom your people support and embolden actively and passively?

When have the Yorubas ever made derogatory comments about your people like you claimed? Can you give me an instance where the Yorubas mocked you guys for the killings going on? When did the Yorubas ever supported the core-north against you?

I just listed above.

Lastly, yes we are tribalistic if you think so, but I can boldly tell you we are the most welcoming tribe in Nigeria. We have been the most peaceful region which welcomes a lot of foreigners within our midst. People from all walks of life, Christian and Muslim alike live peacefully among us and we have learnt to conquer the animosity that arises from religion.

Yes we are tribalistic, coz Nigeria itself is a coalition of different tribe. Our music, movies, education, way of life is closely attached to your language and we always flaunt our pride anywhere we go. I am not sorry to be termed tribalistic coz my allegiance is only to my tribe especially in a country like Nigeria.

Thank you very much for admitting this fact which many of your people deny.
I guess people like me are now learning to be tribalistic too. Let everyone practice tribalism like you Yorubas and Hausas practice, let us see how Nigeria will stand as a country.

The only mistake you people make in your efforts for tribalism is that you empower and embolden the core-north actively and passively, and the stronger the core-north gets, it affects us who are their direct neighbours. Hence, in a bid to survive, we are forced to look towards the Igbos for an alliance for survival.

SSners now naturally allign and have a soft spot for Igbos because of the way Igbos supported them. ..... Now, imagine my people join in this mix. ... The combination of the 3 of us will be too deadly for Nigeria and it will eventually lead to the empowerment of the Igbos.
Our people will now become the glue to hold the SS & SE together.

From my view, this tribalism of you Yorubas will not do you people any good in the long run, take this from me.
Hausa fulanis do not do tribalism, rather they do 'religionism' and this helps them to get the support of 5 million Kanuris and 10 million other middlebelt Muslims.
You Yorubas have minority neighbours like Edos, Nupes, Baribas, Ebiras, Igalas e.t.c who are more related to you guys culturally and otherwise, but these minorities look towards the Hausa fulanis & Igbos for alliance rather than you guys.

If things continue the way they are and my people eventually come into a marriage of survival with the Igbos, you Yorubas will end up the biggest loosers among the 3 majority groups in Nigeria, and Igbos will emerge the strongest because they will have the allegiance/friendship of 35 million northern Christians (with our huge fertile landmass) and 25 million SS minorities (with all the resources)....
Hausa fulanis will always have the support of about 20 million northern minority muslims
While you Yorubas may have to look towards Benin republic for allies.

Whichever way, you must know that your people cannot eat their cake and have it.

BlackPeni5:
Atiku 2023.

South East, North East and South South will vote Atiku to make sure South West doesn't get it.

In fact the South will not have power till 2031 and by then southerners will be begging to be VP. Kaduna South has been conquered, Naija as a whole is the next bus stop.

Are u the one that conquered Kadunas south? Are u aware that there are entire towns and LGAs in Southern Kadunas where Hausa fulanis cannot stay, build mosques and are even scared to travel through?

Bazamfare:
Why are you making reference to history, something that has already passed!?!? "If this, if that, if only", like WTF!! History has already layed precedent for the reality we are in, there is no way u could rewind or teleport and change things, so u have to live with that.. no amount of "if" will change that!!!

Whether the north would have been backwards, underdeveloped, landlocked and terrorized(lol. as if minority MB won't be in the same scenario) if Nigeria had broke up, its subjective and non applicable since is has not happened

Lol. You said "Besides, the majority of our people have been identifying as Arewa and voting Hausa fulani candidates for many years until recently.".. were you doing us a favor, or did we put a gun to ur head and forces to do that?!?! You did that out of ur volition... and when u stopped voting us what happened, did that stopped us from governing and ruling Nigeria!?!!, Buhari lost Benue, Platue, SK and Taraba states, but still won the presidential election..See how ur talking and sounding like a illiterate fool

Our people can never live in a terrorized country if Nigeria divides because we will naturally be allied with Igbos and we will expel all Hausa fulani settlers from our midst back to the core-north....

I will always refer to history cos foóls like you think Nigeria is just all you see today....
The middlebelt tribes of Plateau, SK, Gongola (Taraba & Adamawa), Nasarawa & Benue remain a sleeping giant in Nigeria who will shake Nigeria to it's roots whenever we wake up and unite to a common cause.

Wow betide you almajiris if we then decide to unite with Igbos & Niger deltans for a common agitation.... I promise u, you will experience this awakening in your lifetime!

Yes our people were not forced to claim Arewa but it was promoted by our colonial masters and we foolishly fell for it. The tide is now changing, wait for it.

Bazamfare:
Hahaha I see how desperate u are as usual to make a point!! We all know the permutations and scenarios in 2011 were totally different to current realities.. In 2011, Buhari contested under CPC, a party that was formed overnight with no single Governor, LG chairman, senator or HR and he was still able to pull over 12m votes, something Atiku couldn't do under the mega party PDP in 2019

When I say "minority and insignificant", I'm referring to SK, Benue and Platue state that we don't share anything in commone in terms of culture, religion etc

Buhari also lost Adamawa,kwarra,kogi and nasarawa states who are regard as allies.. so clearly its not because of "minority and insignificant" states Buhari lost elections, but from other states and factors that I stated above that were highly not in his favor

to show you just how insignificant and useless u are, Buhari lost Benue, SK, Platue and Taraba states, but still won the presidential election in 2019.. do you see how pathetic you people are!

Your first paragraph is pointless and useless because in spite of Buhari being in an unknown party in 2011, he still swept the entire votes of the core-north and Hausa fulani areas.

Yoruba and middlebelt votes made the difference in 2015, nothing else.

2019 was not an election but a pure sham.
Buhari still got 40-45% of votes in Benue and Plateau...... How did this happen?
According to you, "it has to be the indigenous Muslims in those places that have him those votes".

Besides, no problem, we like that we are insignificant, afterall you people call the Igbos insignificant too, yet their achievements are all over the world.
It's just a matter of time for our people and the Igbos to leave this useless country then we know who is truly insignificant. Nonsense.

LegendHero:
Lol, it will just be an exercise in futility for me to even stoop so low in trying to compare Yorubas achievement with the plateau people.

Thank God you have a family that are millionaires, but mind you I’m also a millionaire personally (have my own non-bank MFI back home in Nigeria with a sizable workforce and clients) so I don’t need to use my family as a gratification. I’ve proven that here on Nairaland when some unfortunate guys tried playing that same rhetorics and I shut them up forever.

There is absolutely nothing to say to a plateau guy coz most Yorubas don’t even know you exist except the nursery school children when they are reading state and capital.

I wanted to say a lot but it will be like killing a mosquito with a sledge hammer coz where will I even start? Who in their right mind compares the Yoruba people to the plateau tribes?

I will never want to compare my people with Yoruba people, God forbid..

We do not envy you people's progress since it is an individual one and not one which reflects in your society as a whole.

Neither do we envy thousands of your people being imprisoned and beheaded for crimes all over or the ones being butchered everyday by their fellow kinsmen and their parts sold for five five hundred naira.

Hundreds of thousands of Yorubas are living in Jos, many still stayed back even after the series of crisis.
How many Plateau people are in Ibadan, Akure or Oshogbo?
Jos is better than any Yoruba city and I dare you to challenge that... There are so many whites, Lebanese and foreigners in Jos in spite of all the crisis because God blessed us with a very cold weather and lovely landscape.
The fact that you have never left the SW in your life is your problem and not mine.


For the records, I only mentioned my forebears progress to show you that the illiterate and poverty ridden society u picture for my people belongs to your friends, lovers and masters (the Hausa fulanis) and not my people.

I am in my mid 20s and I have already founded 2 businesses (each worth over a million naira).
I just got a job in Canada and will be migrating there in less than 2 months from now because I see an impending economic doom for Nigeria and I don't want to be part of it.... Already one of my businesses went down with Buhari's border closure.
You can Pm me if u want me to prove all my claims. And I'd also like to know more about yours, so maybe u can permit me to Pm you.

LegendHero:
I’ve always respected you on this forum because of the wealth of experience you had about the history of several tribes especially the middle belt and the core north. You have always given your contribution in such a way that one will be glued to reading your post.

However you have deviated a lot and your recent trajectory on hating on the Yorubas will be a futile adventure. I’ve never for once had any problem with the people of the middle belt and I don’t think there is any documented history that showed the Yorubas sinned against you guys to warrant such animosity from you.

First of all, you are not accepting your destiny and you always project yourself with high magnitude of inferiority complex. You are from the North, the more you try to absolve yourself of the geographical identity the lesser your worth become. That you chose to abuse the core-north to project your own self worth is still an exercise in futility because no matter what I will still view you as a northerner.

It’s just absurd to try to come here and equate yourself to the Yorubas, we are not thesame and we are far superior to any of you guys. In all ramifications, the Yorubas have evolved with a lot of success in all aspects of human endeavors.

If the Yorubas like bragging about their success like you claimed, then it will be headache for most of the guys on here coz they have lot of success to brag about. We have always maintained decorum and already saw success like an everyday thing, so the Yorubas don’t see a reason to brag especially about things we’ve always dominated.

Stop saying your people are sane, you are as barbaric as the core-north you chose to hate. In all my little years on earth I’ve always know the people of plateau to be violent. It’s all about Jos killings and unrest. The disease of the Core north man is also the disease of the plateau state man.

Like I rightly said, the Yoruba man’s yesterday is the plateau man’s future. We are incomparable in all forms of metrics and it will be like wasting my ink trying to explain anything to a plateau guy.

I’m sorry if I sounded harsh or inconsiderate, but you’ve been left so long on here to perpetuate your hateful comments against us without anyone to checkmate you.

Thank you for respecting me in the first place but I do not need your respects.

I will always show opposition to many Yorubas here because it is very obvious that you people are a very very selfish people who put your interests first above the lives of other Nigerians.
You people are ready to support evil befalling others as long as it benefits you.
This is something Igbos hardly do..... I have noticed that Igbos show far more sympathy and support to the minorities of the north & middlebelt and our course, unlike you people who put your personal interests before any other thing. This is why I have absolutely no respect for you guys.
Times without number I have seen Yorubas supporting core northerners over our people and other Nigerian Christians making erroneous claims in a very ignorant manner.

If u like see me as a northerner, that is your headache... Afterall, you Yorubas see things more from a very myopic and tribal perspective and this is why you people call everyone Igbo from after Ore down do Calabar....
And everyone from after Ilorin\Lokoja is seen as a Hausa.
I mean how can Yoruba people call Edo people Igbos and Kakanda\Bassa\Igala people as Hausas meanwhile Edo and these middlebelt tribes are far far more culturally related to Yorubas than they are to Igbos & Hausas....

Very myopic and tribalized mindset.


There are about 50 distinct ethnic groups in Plateau and let me burst your bubble, only once have we ever recorded ethnic conflicts with each other.... Why is it always with Hausa fulanis? Same Hausa fulanis who fight people in Benue, Taraba, Southern Kadunas, Igbo land and even your own Yoruba land!

So tell me how barbaric my people are when we never fight with each other but only with same people all other Nigerians fight with..... Can't you see that you are an irredeemable mugu?


Well no need to apologise for your words,. I engage Igbos, Hausa fulanis, Yorubas and even Niger deltans here on this forum bitterly a lot of times because I stand for my people's interests and will do so more strongly in the future (in more physical forms).
My people are naturally a passive people in Nigeria and we must change this... Nigerians have proven themselves to be a dog eat dog people and society and my people must begin to radically play this game till this country disintegrates. No more sitting down to watch for us.
And as a leader for my people and one who knows so much about my people in respect to Nigeria's politics.... I have come to the conclusion that Hausa-fulanis are our biggest threat and enemies as a people, closely followed by you Yorubas (who do not mind supporting these Hausa fulanis, as long as it works to your interests).
Meanwhile, the Igbos are the best possible allies we can have in Nigeria, followed by the Niger deltans. ..

So expect more opposition from me and possibly others like me from henceforth.

And mind you, Yorubas were the ones who insulted me first on that thread before I descended on them..

LegendHero:
At least the people butcher for money which showed they still have reason for that and it is not only a Yoruba thing. We’ve seen it countless times where human being are killed for money ritual and a perfect example is the Okija shrine and other stuffs.

However, the people of plateau are known for their barbaric killing for fun and religious war. It’s even evident that some of the tribes in Plateau state eat human flesh for fun which is such a sacrilege.

Also, the plateau people don’t bring anything to the national coffers, you have no intellectual property to contribute to Nigeria success. Also, it is pertinent to say that your region contribute a lot to the woe of this nation. High school dropout, high prevalence of diseases, ethnic unrest, religious intolerance, cannibals, early age marriage, and the poverty headquarters of this country.

I wouldn’t have responded to you this way, but you need to be kept in check coz you’ve been on Nairaland hating on the mighty Yoruba at every instant. You never for once keep your hate and you constantly diminish the image of the Yorubas.

Remember the Yorubas man’s yesterday is the Plateau man’s future! We are not and can never be mate!

Besides, I call Yoruba people's progress an individual one because it does not reflect in their society and Homeland...
I was travelling from Warri to Kwara recently to take my younger brother to Landmark university and men, see Yoruba towns! I just dey shame for una. With all the millionaires and Billionaores, yet no developments in even your capital cities.... Rusty roofs and dillapidated ancient houses dominating everywhere..

Your towns looked like abandoned cities and towns of War.
No wonder every Yoruba man today denies his state of origin and claims to be Omo Eko.

Progress is very very useless if it is solely individual and not a collective one reflecting in the society and overall life of the people.

LegendHero:
At least the people butcher for money which showed they still have reason for that and it is not only a Yoruba thing. We’ve seen it countless times where human being are killed for money ritual and a perfect example is the Okija shrine and other stuffs.

However, the people of plateau are known for their barbaric killing for fun and religious war. It’s even evident that some of the tribes in Plateau state eat human flesh for fun which is such a sacrilege.

Also, the plateau people don’t bring anything to the national coffers, you have no intellectual property to contribute to Nigeria success. Also, it is pertinent to say that your region contribute a lot to the woe of this nation. High school dropout, high prevalence of diseases, ethnic unrest, religious intolerance, cannibals, early age marriage, and the poverty headquarters of this country.

I wouldn’t have responded to you this way, but you need to be kept in check coz you’ve been on Nairaland hating on the mighty Yoruba at every instant. You never for once keep your hate and you constantly diminish the image of the Yorubas.

Remember the Yorubas man’s yesterday is the Plateau man’s future! We are not and can never be mate!

Our people may not have as much personal achievements as the Yorubas, but at the same time our people are not on deathrows in large numbers in Saudi Arabia for drug smuggling.

Our people do not use their fathers, mothers, siblings and girlfriends for blood money and Yahoo plus.....

We do not enrich ourselves by scamming others with heavy 419 as is obtained among your people.

And even with the absence of negative vices of criminality in our society, we are still making progress as a people..... Check the poverty rate rankings for our states,. We are far ahead of the core-north...
This is to tell you that just with education alone, and without capitalism, people can still make progress, only that it will be a gradual process.

We still have so much trust in our society.
I was in Uniben and a fellow Plateau man who I have never met in my life before contacted me on Facebook and he sent me a huge amount of money to apply and secure a Masters degree admission for him in Uniben.... I couldn't get the exact course he wanted and I refunded his exact amount of money for him!
Tell me, can this happen among average Yoruba youths?

I can meet a Plateau stranger anywhere and I will feel very very free to stay in his house and the thought of him using me for rituals will never even cross my mind... This is how much trust we still have in our society!

You see these are the reasons why people like me will fight to my last drop of blood for the division of Nigeria... You Yorubas and other Southerners and even Hausa_fulanis have destroyed the image of Nigeria abroad with all manners of negative vices and terrorism and this is something my people have no hand in, yet we suffer for it.

Our people will have a very sane, equal, civilized, crime free country with great trust and gradual progress if we are a country of our own...unlike the dog eat dog society that exists in the south and core-north.... God forbid.


And mind you, like I said our people's progress is a slow and gradual thing.
Below are 2 highly innovative and industrious Plateau youths in their 20s.
One created a local powerbank manufacturing industry from ecowaste and the other designs sport cars, manufactures tractors and other farming machines and automobiles.
While them Burnaboy, Davido and Teni were winning awards for music and dance in the recent AFRICA FUTURE AWARDS, the first Plateau guy won the technology category.

https://www.masarakimsblog.com/2019/08/proudly-plateau-young-luka-zang-bot.html?m=1


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18RsYWoKmJo

Yesterday, we unveiled Bennie Purrie. This is just the beginning.#madeInNigeria#NigerianYouth#BennieAutomobile#madeInJos pic.twitter.com/YN154UPu3f

— Jerry Mallo (@jerry_mallo) November 29, 2019

The fact that our people don't make noise and brag about our achievements like you Yorubas & Igbos do, doesn't mean we don't have any.

LegendHero:
At least the people butcher for money which showed they still have reason for that and it is not only a Yoruba thing. We’ve seen it countless times where human being are killed for money ritual and a perfect example is the Okija shrine and other stuffs.

However, the people of plateau are known for their barbaric killing for fun and religious war. It’s even evident that some of the tribes in Plateau state eat human flesh for fun which is such a sacrilege.

Also, the plateau people don’t bring anything to the national coffers, you have no intellectual property to contribute to Nigeria success. Also, it is pertinent to say that your region contribute a lot to the woe of this nation. High school dropout, high prevalence of diseases, ethnic unrest, religious intolerance, cannibals, early age marriage, and the poverty headquarters of this country.

I wouldn’t have responded to you this way, but you need to be kept in check coz you’ve been on Nairaland hating on the mighty Yoruba at every instant. You never for once keep your hate and you constantly diminish the image of the Yorubas.

Remember the Yorubas man’s yesterday is the Plateau man’s future! We are not and can never be mate!

Wait to, have you ever crossed the SW region in your entire life? You must be very sick to attribute child marriage, high poverty rates and high school dropout to Plateau state, a state where the overwhelming majority are Christians!

These attributes you are talking of belongs to the core-north.

If you are not an irredeemable idïot, bring the Jamb registration list by states for the last 5 years and see that Plateau state is always ahead of your Ekiti & Lagos State when it comes to Jamb enrollment. Heck we used to be higher or on par with many Southern states in spite of our relatively smaller indigenous population.

Jos as a city is far far more developed, larger in size, neat and sane compared to any Yoruba city besides Lagos that was built with the Commonwealth of all Nigerians.
So tell me then how productive you are! When all your cities are dominated with rusty brown roofs and dillapidated houses without toilets.

Mind you, every ethnic crisis and conflict in Plateau is caused by Hausa settlers or Fulani herdsmen who are all visitors to the land, just as they are causing crisis in Yoruba land too like what happened in Ife, Mile 2, Shagamu e.t.c (and u can imagine that Yorubas & Hausas are not direct neighbours), yet they are killing u people on your soil, how much more we who are direct neighbours with them?

See this mugu calling Plateau ppl illiterate

Let me tell u, my mother is from one of the most interior villages in Plateau state where till now there is no light there and u have to drive almost 1 hour of untarred road before you get there, yet my mother and all her 9 siblings are literate & educated. Only their parents (my maternal grandparents) are illiterates.
Meanwhile my mother and her brother are millionaires today.

Meanwhile, my father who comes from the neighbouring town (not even the LG headquarters) is not just a graduate but even his own parents (my paternal grandparents) were university graduates.

You can hardly find a Plateau indigenous Christian youth who is an illiterate today. I have never seen that.

The only thing you will tell me about Plateau people and most middlebelt people in general that I will accept is that we are not very ambitious (in business) and innovative..... We are laid-back, so we don't tend to have ground-breaking developments...... All we do is government and salary jobs and that is why we are far more powerful than you Yorubas in the Nigerian civil service.
My paternal grandfather had only 6 children and all of them except the one who has been in the UK are all civil servants and out of those 5 civil servants, 3 are millionaires (to tell u they are in top govt jobs).

I'm not trying to write my life history here, but all I want to tell u is that you are the first Southerner who has attributed illiteracy to a middlebelt people which speaks of your high level of ignorance & foolishness.

Everyone knows that things like child marriage, high poverty rates and illiteracy belongs to the Hausa fulanis and core-northerners and not us....
So, try something else.

mamaafrik:
i can see you were not well brought up ,don't you think i saw that already,mr. pontificator,is this the first time they are saying that and status quo remains the same,didn't they say similar thing in 2015 and 2019,what has changed,only an ignoramus won't sip from the message,if you can't comment intelligently , it's not a must.

Election in 2019 were heavily rigged and we all know that, otherwise how could Buhari be getting about 40% of the votes in Benue & Plateau after all that has been happening?

2015 was a very different case as many people were tired of GEJ and fell for the change mantra.

Stop saying what you don't know. Period.

Bazamfare:
Whatever the scenario is, its still a win-win for the SW.. I'm just trying to indicate that the SE should not rely on MB for any favor political wise

Those minority tribes you quoted have never aligned with the core north or barely did at a certain point, so it's nothing new or unique to us.. but their numbers are too insignificant and paltry that it can't alter, change or have any impact in the overall votes from the north!! In fact, it cannot even be felt!

Besides, if not for our people who fought against Igbos in the Biafran war, do you think the so called Nigeria your people take as their property would have been existing today?

Nigeria would have long been divided and you core-northerners would have been living in a heavily secluded, landlocked and terrorized nation and would have been no different from Niger republic.
Besides, the majority of our people have been identifying as Arewa and voting Hausa fulani candidates for many years until recently.

So get that into your thick almajiri skull that without us, the political leverage u people have in Nigeria today would have been non-existent!

Bazamfare:
Whatever the scenario is, its still a win-win for the SW.. I'm just trying to indicate that the SE should not rely on MB for any favor political wise

Those minority tribes you quoted have never aligned with the core north or barely did at a certain point, so it's nothing new or unique to us.. but their numbers are too insignificant and paltry that it can't alter, change or have any impact in the overall votes from the north!! In fact, it cannot even be felt!

These same group of people u say are insignificant are the reason Buhari lost in 2011 and won in 2015 cos it has been proven that with or without Yorubas votes, Buhari would have still won in 2015, so tell me what changed.

@Legendhero, sebi you were insulting my Plateau people asking us how we contribute to Nigeria?
Well, come and see how useless your people are. Butchering and selling each other for 1k.. Is this not worse than BH?

You are very lucky the mods were banning my replies on that thread, otherwise, by the time I would have been through with you, you will see my moniker and run next time. Nonsense.

I am ashamed sharing the same country with your people... People who butcher humans and sell their parts for 500 naira and 1k. Tufia!

martowskin1:
All this things u wrote, am very sure u are between 20-35. How has this improve ur standard of living, am beginning to feel this old men are wiser than we the youth. They keep dividing us, using party line, tribal line in order for them to continue their rubbish.

Look at the north u are from, despite majority of Nigeria leaders are from there, it didn't stop all the mess up over there

When will Nigeria youth stand up and stop playing into the hands of this wicked leaders

@bolded. Not until Nigeria is divided or restructured and people are no longer deceived into voting based on ethnicity and religion.

djon78:
From now till 2023, there will be a lot of alignments. Things have gone so bad.
Nigerian economy and polity is in shambles. And never again will we leave Nigeria in the hands of direction less people. 2015 was a bitter lesson. And the mistake will never be allowed again

Speak for yourself because we still have a huge population of illiterates who will always vote based on religion and ethnicity in this country.

anonymous1759:
...

The youths should drop ethnicity and religion. and unite these old Elites don't have any plans for the Masses. You can imagine them talking about 2023 in 2019

What you are asking for is very very impossible, especially for core- northerners. Religion is an essential part of who they are and they love and value their religion more than Nigeria.

This is the reason Nigeria needs to be divided or at least restructured because we can never be United as a people.

jneutron4000:
hahahaha on the contrary, South south have proven most times to support south west, go back to history and see the voting patterns of the south south, it's only south east that has never supported the South west political interests. Don't give the the bulshit of you supporting OBJ, he was never the South westerner's choice, Olu falaye was. So to break it down for you; if south west produces a credible candidate like Osinbajo, South south will give their votes, middle belt will give their votes even Kanuris will give their vote then of cause South west will give their votes so we know that the South east and the Hausa fulanis will not.

Kanuris always go with Hausa fulanis. You can only get them behind you, if you give them the VP slot.

mamaafrik:
I just need a common and one South to queue behind obi or Osibanjo and bring the likes of kyari,daura and Northern hegemony to a good check.
Thr middle belt are always a puppet of the Hausa while the Hausas are always led by the Fulanis,middle belt needs to wake up and take a stand.

You are not okay.. Didn't you see middlebelt & Southern Kadunas distancing themselves from Arewa in this write up?

Bazamfare:
Lol. Nyamuri flat.head!! Im a northerner, ur in no position to dictate on who and how a northerner votes in 2023, we will vote for APC and whoever Buhari dictates us too, which is likely a SW candidate, irrespective of PDP candidate

It's obvious the SS are more politically savvy and sophisticated than the SE, that's why APC were able to win Bayelsa State, coupled with heavyweights that are from the region.. ur less important and insignificant in the scheme of things, that why u are attaching urself by force with the SS to find solace and comfort

Lol. Who are the minority!?!?! You guys are so delusional, moronic and foolish to think that the MB starts and ends with platue and benue state, don't forget that kwarra, kogi, Niger normally align with the voting pattern of core north and I don't see that changing

Kwara and Kogi allign with Yorubas mostly... Only Niger state alligns with the core north in their majority.

Meanwhile, the northern minorities Igbos are talking of are not just Benues & Plateaus, but the majority of Tarabans, Southern Kadunas, Abujans, Nasarawans, Adamawans e.t.c

bigfrancis21:
It’s so rare why the history of delta Igbo is hardly seen this way. The survival and dominance of the Igbo language is evidence of who the true owners or the aboriginals of the land are, especially given that the Igbo built no dominating or conquering empires like the British or Romans or even the Binis where they lorded themselves over the conquered and imposed a mandatory learning of the language. It’s only in Igbo history where you’ll hear arguments like, Igalas of about 2 to 5 percent arrived and settled amongst an overwhelmingly Igbo speaking group and they got assimilated a generation or two later but the village is Igala not Igbo because of the Igala surnames of one or two Igala-descended families or a few borrowed words. On the other hand Isoko villages of Igbo ancestry are today not Igbo because they don’t speak Igbo or answer Igbo names but Igbo speaking tribes in Delta are not Igbo because about 5 to 10% of them had ancestors who arrived from Bini and were given lands to settle within an Igbo speaking majority and therefore are Bini not Igbo. I’ve read so many crazy theories on this forum that I just gave up on replying most of them.

I liked your comment but you are very wrong about the Bini enforcing their language on others.
Binis regard their language as a prestigious language of royal people hence they never allowed or forced their subjects to speak... If Benins had enforced their language on their subjects, then believe me, they would have been a majority group in Nigeria because majority of Edo, Delta and parts of Lagos, Ondo, Bayelsa & Rivers would have been Bini speaking.

kmariko:
Nowenuse

Thanks for the lecture... I learned a lot about the ethnic groups from adamawa, Taraba and Yola... It's one place still can't figure out...

THANK YOU..

You're welcome. My pleasure. Are u from the Northeast?