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VaughnSangrey:50% of Kaduna and 20-25% of Kebbi. |
VaughnSangrey:Yes they are, those ones are. The person u quoted doesn't know the difference between indigenous Hausa Christians and Southern Kaduna Christians who speak Hausa as a 2nd language. |
Neoteny:No, these are indigenous Hausa Christians formerly known as Maguzawa and there are about 2 million of them spread across Zaria, Kano, Katsina states. They are different from Southern Kaduna or Plateau kind of Christians who speak Hausa as a 2nd language. |
Omoslim26:Southern Kaduna people are not Hausa Christians. Gosh, I think I need to make a post about this on nairaland. Most people don't know the difference. It is the indigenous Christians of Zaria (northern Kaduna), Kano, Katsina, Jigawa & Zamfara that are Hausa Christians. Southern Kaduna people are just like Plateau & Nasarawa people. We have our own languages but only speak Hausa as a 2nd language. |
TooMuchStuff:You are correct, but the difference is that most Christians in Kebbi state are not Hausa by tribe, they are mostly Lelna (Dakarkari) by tribe from Zuru. It is the Christians in Jigawa, Kano, Katsina & Zaria that are indigenous Hausa Christians. Most Nigerians, including even some Hausa fulanis don't know the difference. |
OoniOfIfe:You are making a mistake. Southern Kaduna, Tafawa balewa and Southern Gombe (Kaltungo) people are not Hausa Christians. All these people only speak Hausa as a 2nd language. The real Hausa Christians are those who are indigenes of Kano, Zaria, Katsina, Jigawa & Zamfara states. They speak Hausa as a first and only language, get the difference. |
Realstick941:What u are saying about Plateau is absolutely ignorant. I am a Plateau indigene. Yes there are muslims in Plateau, but many of them are non-indigenous (the ones in Jos city and Wase) and that is why they are not usually factored into the politics of the state. The indigenous Muslims are like 15% of the state and they are not concentrated in one senatorial district which can give them a majority status. I am from Plateau central, the zone with the largest indigenous Muslim population and we have had a Muslim senator in the person of IBRAHIM NASIRU MANTU for 8 years who was the deputy Senate president. He is from my tribe. Now this doesn't mean that Muslims are up to one-quarter of Plateau central, just that in 1999 when Mantu was elected, religion had not yet been a strong divisive factor. Muslims in Plateau central are like 20% of the zone. Muslims are like 20% in Plateau South too, but like half or one-third of them are fulanis of Wase who are not seen as indigenes. While in Plateau north, majority of the muslims who are in Jos are settlers. This is the reason why Muslims are not politically strong in Plateau state. Now, u cannot compare this to the Christian populations of Southern Kaduna, Southern Gombe, Southern Borno, Southern Kebbi or even Eastern Niger where majority of the christians are concentrated in one senatorial district and form a stronghold majority there. |
ProudBornoBoy:You are judging these places by the towns and urban areas which is very wrong. There are dozens of other villages. Go to these villages and see who the majority are. Between this town to the next town, there are dozens of villages in between and most of these villages are overwhelmingly Christian. Many of these villages do not even have a mosque, how then do you explain this? Muslim settlers like to live in towns and along the roadside hence you think they are the majority in a particular places. Also, many muslims in Southern Borno are settlers. Judge Southern Borno based on tribe and u will see that every tribe in Southern Borno is a Christian majority, including the Buras who are the largest tribe. Tera people are the only 50/50 tribe. The Kanurized Marghis of Damboa and the fulani settlers are the only muslim majority in Southern Borno, so tell me how southern Borno can be muslim majority? |
jumper524:Stop saying what you don't know. Hannatu is a name answered mostly by northern christians and not muslims. |
ProudBornoBoy:If I am not familiar with these places, how do you think I am explaining them for you this way? Bayo is dominated by fulanis and Buras, Damboa by Kanurized Marghis and Kwaya Kusar by muslim Buras with some Christian minorities. Biu is Bura, evenly divided between Christians & Muslims, but the Muslims dominate the town and the Christians the rural areas. Hawul is overwhelmingly Bura Christian, Chibok is overwhelmingly Kibaku Christian, Askira-Uba is Marghi & Kibaku Christian. Most Muslims in these 3 LGAs are settlers. Gwoza has up to a dozen different tribes with a Christian majority and a significant Muslim minority, while Shani is slightly Christian majority with tribes who are mostly found in Adamawa. It's impossible for Southern Borno to be Muslim majority. Muslims are many there, no doubt, but they cannot be the majority. |
ProudBornoBoy:Southern Borno can never and has never been predominantly muslim. Among the 9 LGAs, Askira\Uba, Gwoza, Chibok, Hawul & Shani are predominantly Christian while Biu is a 50/50. Don't judge the population of Biu LGA with Biu town which has more Muslims. It is Bayo, Damboa & Kwaya Kusar that are majority muslims. Southern Borno is 70% Christian. Don't judge with the towns alone, go to the rural areas where u don't even find mosques in many of them. |
Bazamfare:You are talking about MINORITY, What the heck is minority? Do you mean minority tribes or minority religion or minority sexual oriented people? ![]() If u have any brains, you will know that minority cannot be used alone as a word, it must be attached to something. From your context, it is very clear you are referring to minority Christians, but your permutation is very flawed because Northern & Middlebelt Christians are not limited to Benue, Plateau & Southern Kd. We are the majority in Taraba & FCT and 40- 60% of the population in Nasarawa, Adamawa, Kogi & Gombe. 20- 30% in Kebbi, Borno, Niger, Bauchi e.t.c We may not be good in business, but we are better than you people in education. Only Plateau & Southern Kaduna should have more professors than the entire Core-north combined ... If we bring in Benue, then it would be the core-north + Niger republic Besides, why are your people forcefully claiming indigeneship of our lands? Can you tell your people to vacate Jos and go back to the core-north? How many of our people do you see in Kano, Katsina or Zamfara? Nonsense. |
shedy03:You must be from Adamawa north or Borno south. Let me guess, you are Marghi (hope am correct)? |
Henry22:Sharia courts exist even in Yoruba land. Having Sharia courts and the use of Sharia law over a state are 2 different things. At the height of Sharia law in the core-north, men and women entered different buses. Sharia law has never been practiced in Plateau state. Nobody's hand can be cut off or stone to death in Plateau. Not even places like Adamawa state practice Sharia law, let alone Plateau. |
Henry22:FYI, there is no Sharia law in the middlebelt, except Niger state where it is not even practiced. Taraba & Adamawa do not have Sharia law too. |
JBoss25:The girl in question is even a Northerner from Niger state. |
Yoruba & Hausa-fulani people will eventually destroy the one Nigeria they so love and seek after because of political greed. The worse is yet to come, this is only just the beginning. We are still in 2019 and yet all these are unfolding. |
Perkins2018:And those Yorubas who have Edo, fulani and Nupe ancestry, and even those with Black American freed slave ancestry like them Tiwa Savage, has it stopped them from being Yoruba? Or do you think there is an ethnic group in this world with 100% ancestry from one origin? You yourself who is ranting here might have actually had a foreign ancestry into your ethnic group one way or the other but u may not be aware. Besides people borrowed names in the past, a Yoruba can have an Edo or foreign surname cos his parents named him after an Edo visitor or friend. These things were very common those days. My maternal grandmother's name was Titi (a Yoruba name), it was given to her by the missionaries after a Yoruba friend of theirs probably.... The name stuck and that became her official and only name, had it been it was a man now, are my maternal cousins going to claim Yoruba ancestry cos they have a Yoruba surname? |
PrecisionFx:No, not even among black Africans. I think among Black Africans, Fulanis, Shuwa Arabs, Berber & Habesha (Upper Ethiopian) women look facially more beautiful... Although all these tribes mentioned above have blood mixtures with Arabs and Berbers. For pure and full blooded black Africans, truly Imo state can have the most beautiful. |
BabaRamota1980:Abeg I give up arguing with you... When did I ever say Gidado is a Yoruba name? Of course it is a native Fulani name just like Bello. Some Yorubas just adopted it due to influence, but does it make them less Yorubas? You have no point of argument, at first u were denying these guys as Yorubas, now u have changed to saying it is not a Yoruba name... Whoever said it was a Yoruba name? This is why I like Facebook, if you are arguing with someone, u can check the person's profile to at least ascertain his age and intelligence and know if u should continue.... Cos honestly, I feel like I am arguing with a very ignorant teenager of low IQ. No offense. |
BabaRamota1980:Your ignorance is appaling... Bello is a pure native fulani name just like Jallo or Diallo, it has no business with Islam. It is not a name answered anywhere else in the Islamic world apart from West Africa where the fulanis popularized it. If u claim it is an Islamic name, can u prove it? My brother, go and learn more before u become a ranting tribalist. What I notice about you Yoruba staunch tribalists on nairaland is that you guys know very very little. Igbo staunch tribalists on nairaland actually know more than you guys. The only Yoruba guy I so much respect on nairaland when it comes to facts and history is 9jakool, unfortunately for you guys he is not a staunch tribalist. I hardly see him on nairaland. I wonder where he is. |
Perkins2018: BabaRamota1980:Story story. I think you people are naturally cowards giving an excuse like this. Northern minorities like Southern Kadunas, Sayawa in Bauchi south and some tribes in Adamawa who live in Hausa fulani dominated states are overthrowing their own Emirates and forcing the Hausa majority to get their own chiefdoms, yet your people in a Yoruba dominated state are giving excuses of how the military and saraki this and that. Una never ready. Freedom is not given by begging, rather by force. Also, the both of you are just emotional cry babies. Someone is giving you people hot facts and references and different people are corroborating the same thing, yet all you do is cry and cry on a single point... Shame dey catch me for una two I swear. If you guys want to be tribalists, you have to do it with strong hard facts not emotions. The both of you have not even read first hand Colonial records of our people at the time colonialism,. Yet u think you can argue hard and insult people into making a point. BabaRamota, point of correction, nobody is arguing that Gidado, Bello or whatever are Yoruba names, however they are names answered by Yoruba people due to certain circumstances at history. I wonder how hard this is to get into your head. Besides you have not replied me about Ondo people who answer Edo surnames ![]() |
Reference:My brother, this is so true and this is why as a Middlebelt person, I am very much pro-Igbo and I hope I will eradicate the age-long anti-Igbo sentiments among my people. I really wonder how manage Igbos developed such a strong capitalist and financial competitive edge over all other African ethnic groups. It's strange. Hausas are very good in business too. Their religion or should I say the way they practice their religion is their major problem. |
Mandeyy:Core-northerners are actually the sweetest, loveliest, kindest and friendliest people in Nigeria.. Their only problem is religion and this has been their curse and burden. A Hausa man can literally die for you if he really likes you and takes you dearly. |
Perkins2018:Not my history bro, Your history which was documented by our colonial masters! Go and read the book to cure your ignorance or forever remain a foól. I learned more about my own tribe and all Plateau tribes and peoples and middlebelt peoples in general from that book! For example, I learnt that half of my tribesmen (my father's side) were paying allegiance to the Emir of Bauchi in order to prevent invasion.... It was my mother's side who were completely independent of the caliphate. I felt a bit ashamed and surprised of this, and I asked my grandfather who said it was true, but history is history, we can only work towards the future. |
greggng:Thank you very much. Good and bad people are actually in every tribe and we Nigerians do not really have problems or hate each other on personal levels based on tribe! The kindest person I ever met in my life was a Yoruba Muslim woman from Oyo state. That woman literally saved my life back then in Benin ![]() Cc Legendhero Likewise my own family took in an Igbo man from Ebonyi who only a church member into our house and he lived with us for almost a decade, being fed, sheltered and taken care of free of charge....... He even followed us to our village in Plateau and knows my grandparents and all my extended family. My mother sponsored his wedding and that was how we bade him farewell to his new matrimonial home. We still keep in touch and some years ago when we were all travelling away, we left our entire house, belongings and my youngest sibling who couldn't go with us under him and his wife who came in our house to stay for weeks till we came back... He was like a foster son to my family. Cc shaw2 |
Perkins2018:Ooo oo God, I hate people arguing what they don't know with me! Have you read the colonial official book used in registering Nigerian ethnic groups, Emirates and provinces for Northern Nigeria? All the ethnic groups in present day Kwara including the Yoruba speaking Igbomimas, Igbolos & Ekitis were paying taxes and fealties to the Emir of Ilorin as was recorded around 1900-1910. Go and read about Ilorin province as was first recorded by the colonial masters and come back let us talk. |
BabaRamota1980:You have a problem, believe me. So, who do you think answers the BELLO as a name across West Africa? Akan people or Mende peoples? Or so, you need me to tell you that there are Fulani indigenes all over every country in West Africa in large numbers? They are even very significant in Central Africa like Chad, Cameroon (which fulanis dominated post-independence) and now CAR where they are the Muslim rebels fighting the indigenous christians over the domination of the country. Fulanis are the majority in Guinea and a major ethnic/significant group in Gambia, Mali, Burkina Faso, Ivory coast, Niger, Guinea Bissau and even Mauritania. It's only Liberalist, Sierra Leone and Ghana that they do not have a stronghold, however they are still there in tens to hundreds of thousands. Names ending with LLO in West Africa are also mostly fulani, just like JALLO, DIALLO, GALLO You really need to learn more. You think you know much but you know little. Cc Perkins2018 |
lx3as:Thank you very much. Help me tell those Ignorant Stark tribalists like BabaRamota1980 and Perkins2018... I'm very sure the 2 of them must be from Oyo\Osun or Ogun states which are more hinterland compared to peripheral Yoruba areas. One thing I noticed among majority tribes is that the ones in the hinterland tend to act like the custodians, owners and final decision makers of the culture, ignoring those at the peripheral areas who cannot escape being influenced by their neighbors. That was the way one Anambra guy went on arguing on nairaland that Igbos do not marry Edos & Urhobos and I asked him what about the Aniomas (Delta Igbos) who intermarry these tribes who are their neighbors like nonsense. I wonder what you people will say about many people from Ondo who answer Edo surnames, sebi you will also ask what is their Orisa? Ekiti, Kwara & Kogi Yorubas were heavily influenced by their northern & middlebelt neighbouring tribes, these were part of the reasons why they found themselves in Northern Nigeria. Many people don't know that there are 2 LGAs in Kwara state who are Ekiti speaking people and are the same with their kit and kin in neighbouring Ekiti state. Ekiti people as an ethnic group were counted and registered among ethnic groups of Northern Nigeria around 1900s and many of them were under the direct influence and kingship of the Emir of Ilorin whom they payed tax to. |
Perkins2018:Tell that to all the people answering BELLO in Yoruba land like Korede Bello and Funke Akindele Bello (her husband). Sebi Bello na Yoruba name ni? Or you don't know it's a fulani name too? |
BabaRamota1980: BabaRamota1980:You don't know that you are even contradicting yourself. If the boy in question is even of fulani ancestry, it gives him more reason to hate and resent Igbos compared to the average Yoruba. Don't sit down in Ogbomosho and judge the entire Yoruba land like it is in your palm. Different tribes borrowed and adopted names from each other in the past. What about Yorubas who answer BELLO as their surname? Like a former classmate of mine and Funke Akindele's husband and Korede Bello? Is Bello not also a fulanized name? Infact it should be a pure Fulani name if I'm not mistaking. ... How do you explain this? |
shaw2:Wow, I am very sorry for your experience in Adamawa, especially for what u experienced in the hands of an HOD who happens to be a Christian for that matter. I am from Plateau and we northern Christians do not personally hate Igbos, however, some of us have been repeatedly fed by negative stereotypes about Igbos (especially the older and middle-aged generation) who foolishly went about claiming to be Arewa people and one with Hausa fulanis. That lecturer must have had a bad experience with Igbos or he is one of the older northern Christians heavily brainwashed by anti-Igbo and anti-southerner sentiments. My father is like this surprisingly, but I am vehemently against this stupid mentality as a younger person hence I regularly argue and debate this with my father. Igbos are the best allies and best friends we northern and middlebelt christians can have in Nigeria. I hope this experience of yours will never make you judge all northern Christians negatively. Hausa fulanis have every reason to hate Igbos, but not us. |
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With just Marama and Hyera being the major Christian town, Azare to Shaffa To Yimirshika to Sakwa to Kwaya Bura to Manjakwa are all Muslim majority, Askira is Muslim majority while Uba is Christian Majority, Shani is Muslim majority, Gwoza is a fifty fifty situation, you clearly don't know what you are talking about.
u were stunt and perplexed when u saw Buhari get those votes, especially how you made threads on how Buhari can't win any state in the MB!!