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Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus' Earthly Ministry Lasted A Little More Than Two Years by NumberOne2(m): 1:31pm On May 25, 2015

OP, I agree with you about the Trinity part ONLY. There is no such thing as Trinity in the bible. This is why the Church has not been able to explain Melchizedek (as explained in Hebrews). Some say he is a "type of Christ or Christ". Which is WRONG. Melchizedek is God (the Priest). There are more sides to God than the 4 revealed in the bible. Some claim its just 3 in the Bible.

Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is The Spirit Of Truth In The Holly Bible. by NumberOne2(m): 1:14pm On May 25, 2015

hero70:
The spirit of truth is prophet Muhammad peace be upon Him. The bible says Jesus peace be upon Him will have to depart b4 the comforter shall come nd if He comes He will guide people to truth, am asking which new guidance did the holy spirit bring after Jesus christ.

Muhammad was a Spirit? And he had Wifes and Children? They must be Holy Children right?
So when he left, which Spirit did he leave behind? Spirit of Jihad and Terrorism? Please explain.

Christianity Etc › Re: What Was First In Existence? by NumberOne2(m): 1:00pm On May 25, 2015

medkit:
Can we calm down and discuss about this issue that has been bombarding my brain since morning ni!

Before the creation of anything, what was first in existence? Was it God or the darkness.
If it was the darkness, then where did God pop out from?
If it was God then why did darkness come before light #justsaying# no strings attached.
Plz mature minds

Wisdom dictates that you ask the first person on the scene (GOD). So when you see God, ask Him.
Oh but just in case you dont beleive in God, then ask the Darkness.

Christianity Etc › Re: If This World Was Created Good Why Is There So Much Evil by NumberOne2(m): 12:52pm On May 25, 2015

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of EVIL is for GOOD men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

Leave God out of it. Man himself is evil but he is always quick to blame God or Devil.

Questions for You
What good are you doing in your immediate community?
Can those around you say you are a good person?
Start from yourself. Look in the mirror and ask yourself "am I improving or destroying this World"?

Christianity Etc › Re: Are You Smarter Than An Atheist? by NumberOne2(m): 12:42pm On May 25, 2015

djdoxxx:
exactly The Atheist's Point...True Religion Shouldnt Be Based On 'Thoughts,opinions And Individual Interpretations'...It Should Be Based On 'Reality And facts'...(dats Even If There Is One). Before Now,u R A Christian,born Again I Pressume,and U Had Ur Own Understanding Of Wah This Topic "Should Be Like"...Wif Braveguy Explaining Wah He Also Thinks Is Right,u Dump Ur Belief And Endorses His...Wah Happened To The Holy Spirit Dat Was Teaching,interpreting,and Made U Understand D Bible In Ur Former Way?

No you missed the point. If you read my post till the end, you will get what I meant.
I said "Nice explanation. Never thought of it this way. ...but then again, never really meditated on it."

Look at the last part in bold. This means I need to meditate on in and get my own revelation if or not it agrees with Braveguy.
This is why, a lot of Christians (both on NL and elsewhere) DO NOT agree with my point of view because it is from my own personal meditation and guidiance by the Spirit and NOT from general Christian opinions. Even when a Pastor teaches, I always take time to see if what he says are true.

Apostle Paul encouraged personal reseach in Acts 17:11.
"These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so." - Acts 17:11

Christianity Etc › Re: Are You Smarter Than An Atheist? by NumberOne2(m): 11:16pm On May 18, 2015

BraveGuy:
[size=14pt]The flesh = the Bread = the Word. In essence, He was asking people to accept the Word of God, not to become cannibals. [/size]

The Word contains contains Life - the Life of God.

[size=14pt]The Blood contains life, but this is the very essence of God - His Spirit.[/size]
Leviticus 17:11

Just as physical blood carries life (mostly oxygen), the same with the Blood of the Lamb, it carries the Life of God.

The Blood is represented by the Wine, non-alcoholic, as Jesus' Blood never had any form of impurity. So, the wine should not be alcoholic.

Nice explanation. Never thought of it this way. ...but then again, never really meditated on it.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Only A Fool Will Say..... by NumberOne2(m): 12:30am On May 18, 2015

BrotherJohn:
I recently had a run-in on YouTube with a naturalist professor who bagged his PhD in religious studies. Respected in both Japan and USA for his academic excellence.

Professor with fantastic academic achievements? Yes. Knowledge of God? Zero! Atheist....? Of course, they are living in denial or should say it the Bible-way? They are experiencing a strong delusion, for denying EVIDENCE.

This was curled from a long the debate I had with him, for which he could not reply but ran away after giving vague replies that can be summed as: "All these points you presented have been written in other religions before the Bible was written."

Good, I said, "Show me ONE of those texts as proof that the Bible was plagiarized." He could NOT provide just one!
http://brotherjohn.org/only-a-fool-will-say-there-is-no-god/

Nice article.

Man has always known there is a God. Some call him force, aliens, nature, god etc. This I can understand. but the most pathetic ones are those that claim there is no God. At a time I used to wonder how someone could be in such a state of Denial with all 5 senses intact and are considered medically sound. The worst kind of deceit is self deceit.

Well, I dont bother engaging Atheist anymore cos they already know. A musician said "The eyes see only what it wants to see". If a man (medically sound) can deny that the sun shines, I will not be the one to tell him otherwise. He can enjoy his "non sun shining state". It doesnt stop the sun from shining brightly everyday.

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Christianity Etc › Re: The Mystery Of Mechizedek Solved!...who Is He? by NumberOne2(m): 3:22pm On May 16, 2015

jcross19:
paul of tarsus was not an isrealite but a turkish okay and no where paul said melchizedek is God,he said he was a priest of most high. Then why confusion ? Go to google search the word melchizedek in jewish history you will find all you need than confusing the sincere reader.

Dude what is this? Everyone knows Paul was a Jew born in Tarsus.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Mystery Of Mechizedek Solved!...who Is He? by NumberOne2(m): 8:50am On May 16, 2015

MrCcf:
Am only asking who ArchAngel Micheal is. I believe Him to be Jesus, that is why am asking for a clarification from you.

Well he is NOT Jesus. He is an angel whose name is Michael.

Read about Jesus in John 1:1-End.
Read about Angel Michael in Jude 1:19
I cant imagine Jesus contending with Satan for anything (like the body of Moses)

Christianity Etc › Re: The Mystery Of Mechizedek Solved!...who Is He? by NumberOne2(m): 8:12am On May 16, 2015

MrCcf:
Thanks so much. I will need an exposition on who ArchAngel Micheal is. I beliv it is the same JESUS. Thanks again, am a seeker.

Are you trying to be funny? Compare Jesus (the son of God) to an angel? Angels are messengers. Even men are higher than angels. Did you not read in Genesis how angels lusted after the daughters of men?

Christianity Etc › Re: The Mystery Of Mechizedek Solved!...who Is He? by NumberOne2(m): 7:56am On May 16, 2015*

jcross19:
please there is no verse that confirm that jesus was the melchizedek , paul was trying to compare that priest to christ . In the history of judaism it was discovered that shem was the melchizedek and in joshua 10 verse 1 you will find another king of jerusalem called adonizedek ,melchizedek is human being but he live more than a thousand years but he has no record in bible but jewish scholars know more of him.

Paul was a Jew so he also knew the story of Melchizedek. He did not need to misquote Moses (who wrote Genesis). As for Mechizedek being Shem son of Noah who lived a thousand years is laughable. Read the geneology of Shem on Genesis 10 and 11. Nothing about a thousand years there. Finally, why would only Shem live a thousand years and his brothers were left out. They all survived the flood together right?

PS: I never said Melchizedek is Christ, I said he is God (the Priest).

Christianity Etc › Re: The Mystery Of Mechizedek Solved!...who Is He? by NumberOne2(m): 6:44pm On May 15, 2015*

"Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually." - Hebrews 7:3
Well, I do NOT agree that he is Christ based on the BOLDED in the scripture above.

= My Deduction =
Melchizedek is GOD. Yes!
I am glad for this topic as I have been meditating on this for a while now.

You see, it is difficult for us to place Melchizedek because Christians have assumed that God is in 3 persons (Father, Son and Spirit).
This is false. The truth is, there are MANY sides of God beyond what we can think or imagine.
Melchizedek is the Priest of God as stated clearly. Why is this hard to comprehend?
Because we have put God in the TRINITY box. Check your Bible, there is NO trinity in it.

So we have
- God the Father (Jehova *)
- God the Son (Jesus)
- God the Spirit (The Comforter)
- God the Priest (Melchizedek).
I am convinced there are up to 7 sides of God which we dont know of. God is too vast.

Now, can Melchizedek and Jesus be priests at the same time? NO.
After Jesus death like Paul said in Hebrew 7:15, Jesus arose as the new Priest.
"And it is yet far more evident: for that after the similitude of Melchisedec there ariseth another priest,
Who is made, not after the law of a carnal commandment, but after the power of an endless life." - Hebrew 7:15-16

Thus declared
"For he testifieth, Thou art a priest (Jesus) for ever after the order of Melchisedec." - Hebrew 7:17

So what happened to Melchizedek? He has been replaced by Jesus but Jesus operates as Melchizedek did "after the order of Melchisedec."
Just as Jesus went to Heaven so the Holy Spirit should come, so Melchizedek left for Jesus to become Priest. Where he went, I know not.

God is to vast to understand.
"Great is our Lord, and of great power: his understanding is infinite." - Psalms 147:5

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Christianity Etc › Re: Are You Smarter Than An Atheist? by NumberOne2(m): 5:29pm On May 15, 2015

johnydon22:
Good... i love this.....nice one bro, right on point

Meanwhile no one really needs a god to reduce poverty, it should be able to say "hi" first

Well, check the Bible, you will see more stuff than "hi"

Christianity Etc › Re: Christian Tithing - Separating Fact From Fiction by NumberOne2(m): 4:56pm On May 15, 2015*

You keep going in circles about Abraham and his house maid. I have answerd this before.
However, that is NOT a good way to speak of him and you should know that it was his wife Sarah that GAVE the maid to him.

ANSWER: If Christ and some Apostles were hung on the cross, should we do the same?

openmine:
They will receive no inheritance among the Israelites. 24 Instead, I give to the Levites as their inheritance the tithes that the Israelites present as an offering to the Lord.

Please note the highlighted....

"But the tithes of the children of Israel, which they offer as an heave offering unto the LORD, I have given to the Levites to inherit: therefore I have said unto them, Among the children of Israel they shall have no inheritance." - Numbers 18:24

From the above verse, you will see that the TITHES were given FIRST TO GOD, then GOD gave to the Levites. If you read further, you will see that God instructed the Levites on HOW TO TREAT the tithes. It wasnt theirs, it belonged to GOD.

QUESTION FOR YOU TO PONDER:
So if you say God created tithes for the Levites to survive cos they had no inheritance, why is it GIVEN FIRST TO GOD? Why is it not taken straight to the Levites. It would have been easier right?

To the OP, tithing
FACTS:
1) It is not by force. Nothing about God is by force. We have free will.
2) It is scriptural and preceeds the OLD testament (Mosiac Laws)
3) It is given to God and are blessed for it. Surely you cant give it directly to God, but through your Pastor. (God sees the heart)
4) In fact, if you can go beyond 10% kindly do so. Early disciples gave ALL.

FICTION:
1) It is OLD testament. It existed BEFORE the OLD testament.
2) It was abolished by Christ or the Apostles (It was NEVER abolished)
3) It doesnt involve money (Yes it does involve money or whatever you have)

Christianity Etc › Re: Tithing Is Scripturally Relevant In The New Testament by NumberOne2(m): 4:43pm On May 15, 2015*

As always (and I am getting tired of), English translation and comprehension has been the reason for this lenghty thread.

When I said,

I tithe AS A seed of Abraham NOT as a Jew (Abraham was NOT a Jew). This is why I had not mentioned Malachi 3 until you brought it up

did I say, I tithe TO BE as seed of Abraham? Why dont you read my comments properly.

If I pay tax AS A Nigerian, am I paying tax TO BE a Nigerian? What is it?

TO THE BIBLE: I say again, the spoils of war were Abrahams legit property. If not, will he TITHE on someone elses goods. Even the King of Sodom knew this (highlighted in BOLD below). It was Abraham that CHOSE TO RETURN those things back for personal reasons.

"And the king of Sodom said unto Abram, Give me the persons, and take the goods to thyself.
And Abram said to the king of Sodom, I have lift up mine hand unto the LORD, the most high God, the possessor of heaven and earth,
That I will not take from a thread even to a shoelatchet, and that I will not take any thing that is thine, lest thou shouldest say, I have made Abram rich:" - Genesis14:21-23

openmine:
Pls let me be clear with you...which spirit are you talking about? The spirit of God which is the holy spirit? or abraham's own spirit?
please don't confuse urself ohhh...Christ promised his disciples the holy spirit as their comforter after he ascended into heaven...

To your comments about Abraham being in the spirit, the Spirit of God (before Jesus came) did come upon men in those days. Read about Samson, David and others too many in the OLD TESTAMENT.

openmine:
It was after his resurrection dat d law no longer held sway..Christ became a high priest by nullifying d laws of moses and that happened after his death and resurrection..not before...ok?

for christ is the end of the law to them that believe Romans 10:4

This is irrelivant. Tithing PRECEEDED the Law. I have showed you this in Abraham. Abraham WAS NOT under the LAW. He was NOT a JEW.

So far, I am yet to be convinced that tithing AS A (NOT TO BE) seed of Abraham is wrong or OLD testament cos Abraham was NOT a JEW.

To the OP, tithing is relevant in the NEW convenant. However, the NEW convenant even goes beyond tithing to giving ALL (only if you can). All should be done WILLINGLY not BY FORCE. God sees the heart. He doesn't really need your goods or money. Its just a way of putting God first even in your finances.

Christianity Etc › Re: PICS - TB Joshua Gathers 200,000 In Mexico by NumberOne2(m): 12:19am On May 15, 2015

Wow this is Great!
"And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature." - Mark 16:15

Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Kisses Female Church Members Asses For Husband. Pic Not For Faint Hearted by NumberOne2(m): 12:14am On May 15, 2015

Funny scenes from a porn movie. I thought "Ass kissing" was a figure of speech.

Christianity Etc › Re: Christian Tithing - Separating Fact From Fiction by NumberOne2(m): 12:03am On May 15, 2015

Dancee1:
We are not followers or disciples of abraham but of jesus christ and d apostles. So, we are expected to do what they did and told us to emulate. Jesus performed a lot of miracles & told us to do same even greater miracles. Jesus didn't pay tithe and likewise d apostles and they also did't admonish us to pay. Tithe has nothing to do with christianity; in fact, Tithe is the highest fraud in christianity seconded by first fruit. For God's sake we are d body of christ and christ is d head; we hav d same life (zoe) in us. Why on earth are we expected to do what d master never did when he walked d earth? Pastors should repent and concentrate on d gospel of jesus christ and stay away from every other gospel whether Abraham's or melchizedek's for d end is near

Children of Abraham but not followers? Is this not a contradiction!
As followers of Christ? Why not give ALL like the early Disciples.

On a final note, I see that most against tithes are those angry that Pastors use it for fraud. Well you should know that most of the monies Pastors get are actually from FREE WILL OFFERINGS often called SEED rather than tithes. I know folks that bougth Cars, houses and other expensive stuff for Pastors, should this be stopped also?

Christianity Etc › Re: Tithing Is Scripturally Relevant In The New Testament by NumberOne2(m): 11:57pm On May 14, 2015

Maybe I have not been clear enough. You see, there is a BIG difference between Abraham tithing and the law of Moses.
The Israelites were obligated or commanded to because Jacob (Isreal) vowed to tithe. see scripture below:

"And Jacob vowed a vow, saying, If God will be with me, and will keep me in this way that I go, and will give me bread to eat, and raiment to put on,
So that I come again to my father's house in peace; then shall the LORD be my God:
And this stone, which I have set for a pillar, shall be God's house: and of all that thou shalt give me I will surely give the tenth unto thee." - Genesis 28:20-22

You call it spoils of war, but it was Abrahams legitimate property.
He was a man of the spirit and saw the need (not force as I have always state) to tithe to the King of Salem who Paul explained in Hebrews. (This is why I tithe).
I tithe as a seed of Abraham NOT as a Jew (Abraham was NOT a Jew). This is why I had not mentioned Malachi 3 until you brought it up.

PS: You keep missing my point because you are comparing me with Pastors that insist on tithing by force. I have share with you a deep personal revelation. Kindly meditate on it.

Christianity Etc › Re: Christian Tithing - Separating Fact From Fiction by NumberOne2(m): 10:08pm On May 14, 2015

openmine:
after our disagreement in d oda tithe thread,I cant but wonder which position or side u r on...first u said d tithes,u practise were dat of Abraham,then u quickly head 2 Deuteronomy or Malachi,which is of d law of moses dat u condemned,2 use as ur directive,and now u say he sud show u where tithes were abolished...OK
let me ask u dese few questions 2 ascertain ur stand...
1.is d tithe practised by d Jews according 2 d mosaic law part of d 613 laws of moses?
2.was abraham obligated or commanded 2 give a tenth of d war spoils 2 d king after he rescued his cousin lot?
3.how does d tithe or tenth of d war spoils of Abraham relate 2 dat of d tithe in d law of moses?
4.now I ask again Dis question, wat is ur definition of tithes according 2 d bible...not dictionary or wikipedia definition... thanks

I will sum up your question here:

You see, there is a BIG difference between Abraham tithing and the law of Moses.
The Israelite were obligated or commanded to because Jacob (Isreal) vowed to tithe. see scripture below:

"And Jacob vowed a vow, saying, If God will be with me, and will keep me in this way that I go, and will give me bread to eat, and raiment to put on,
So that I come again to my father's house in peace; then shall the LORD be my God:
And this stone, which I have set for a pillar, shall be God's house: and of all that thou shalt give me I will surely give the tenth unto thee." - Genesis 28:20-22

As for Abraham, you call it spoils of war, but it was Abrahams legitimate property.
He was a man of the spirit and saw the need (not force as I have always state) to tithe to the King of Salem who Paul explained in Hebrews. (This is why I tithe not as a Jew but as a seed of Abraham).

Christianity Etc › Re: Tithing Is Scripturally Relevant In The New Testament by NumberOne2(m): 9:46pm On May 14, 2015

These are the issues:
1) Malachi 3 makes promises to the tither. "rebuking the devourer and opening windows of heaven".
If a Christian (non Jew) tithes and holds on to that promise, does it mean it will NOT work cos it was for the JEWS?
2) If Abraham (non Jew) tithed and we as Christians are children of Abraham, what stops us from following his steps of faith?
3) The fact remains, Jesus or any Apostle (Jews and non Jews alike) never abolished tithing. Early disciples even went beyond tithing and gave all. Why is this not practiced today by the so called NEW conventant Christians?

When you answer these, you will begin to see the inconsistency in Non Tithing. Non tithing is an assumed position, there is NO fact about it in the Bible.

Christianity Etc › Re: Tithing Is Scripturally Relevant In The New Testament by NumberOne2(m): 11:51am On May 14, 2015

brocab:
The only proof I can give you how does one love the Lord? When Jesus said give, He talks about seeking His kingdom, seeking His written word and truth, studying, searching, finding the truth about Him, this is the giving the Lord wants from His people, He is blessed, as we are blessed, Jesus wants us to know Him more, becoming closer to Him, having a relationship with Him. This is the proof I only need, to show I love the Lord.
It sounds strange saying I love the Lord, without personally knowing the Man?

"But whoso hath this world's good (wealth), and seeth his brother have need, and shutteth up his bowels of compassion from him, how dwelleth the love of God in him?
My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth." - 1 John 3:17-18

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Christianity Etc › Re: End Time Things! by NumberOne2(m): 11:55pm On May 13, 2015

So what is wrong with the book of Malachi?

Christianity Etc › Re: Tithing Is Scripturally Relevant In The New Testament by NumberOne2(m): 11:28pm On May 13, 2015

I will tell you why. Jesus said if you are faithful in little, you will be faithful in MUCH.
How can a man who CANNOT give 10% ever give 100%? Its impossible. If a christian cannot tithe, he/she cannot give all?

Christianity Etc › Re: Tithing Is Scripturally Relevant In The New Testament by NumberOne2(m): 11:26pm On May 13, 2015

openmine:
Dats simple because most Christians r greedy and self-centered... I know of a wealthy guy who leaves home every Sunday 2 pay tithes in millions... but he has a beggar just close 2 his house and has Neva deemed it fit 2 offer dat beggar alms or some tin beta...d truth is according 2 d promises of God tru Abraham,we r not only blessed but a blessing 2 our world...

Your speech is too generic and you are judging that brother (which is wrong). You know you are a Christian also so do you fall into this GREEDY and SELF-CENTERED category or have you given your ALL? This is a personal thing now. Its easy to point at others, how about YOU?
NOTE: That tithing brother will be so blessed according to Malachi 3. If he wasnt being blessed, he would have stopped tithing. He need to be taught that giving to the poor is like lending to God. God will Himself repay.
"He that hath pity upon the poor lendeth unto the LORD; and that which he hath given will he pay him again." - Proverbs 19:17

Christianity Etc › Re: Christian Tithing - Separating Fact From Fiction by NumberOne2(m): 11:21pm On May 13, 2015

MrPristine:
I don't tithe because there is not one single christian requirement or suggestion to tithe in the whole bible. Those who preach tithing have to twist scriptures to arrive at that fraudulently false doctrine.

No. It is the non tithers that twist scripture. You say its OLD conventant. I have shown you it preceed that.
You say it has been abolished. By who? Never hear any Apostle or Jesus say "Beloved, do not tithe anymore". You assume it has been abolished.
You say you are children of Abraham but DONT tithe like Abraham. Your speech is too hypocritical.

Maybe you should stick to just a NEW testament bible since the OLD testament is for the Jews and myself.

Christianity Etc › Re: Tithing Is Scripturally Relevant In The New Testament by NumberOne2(m): 11:09pm On May 13, 2015

openmine:
ohh am sorry so how do u explain Malachi 3:10-12 as been preached by ur likes as punishment for not tithing...as for john 13:34,a new command was given,unfortunately u Neva understood dat scripture or failed 2 see d part where he said "love as I loved u"..so my question sud b how did Jesus show love dem in john 13:34?
was his love dat of force or a willing heart?
was there any form of intimidation on his part?..dat kind of love is simply hard 2 force on sum one...nice try but Dats had nothing 2 do wit tithes...
ohh sorry u sud have told me 2 break down my English vocab so u cud comprehend dat a punishment was given 2 dose who refused 2 tithe according 2 d mosaic law..

I NEVER quoted Malachi, it is you that did. I NEVER said God will punish non tither.
There is too much hypocrisy about this tithing. You are children of Abraham but not tithers like him. I see. Abrahams blessing are yours but not his tithes (its old testament). Perhaps you should use only NEW testament bible since OLD testament is for the JEWS.

You and your non tithing colleagues say tithing is OLD testament. In the NEW testament, early disciples gave ALL (selling lands and houses) and shared with other brethren in need. Why is this not being practiced today?

Christianity Etc › Re: Are You Smarter Than An Atheist? by NumberOne2(m): 7:44pm On May 13, 2015

^^^
Every year, the Saudi's spends $80 Billion on defence alone (16 trillion Naira) which is Nigeria's 4 Year Budget.
Every year, the US spends $550 Billion on defence alone (which is Nigeria 25 year budget)

This is what they spend on weapons of mass distruction. [Not to talk of China and Russia or Germany]. If they can spend half of that on the Poor, no one will ever be poor on planet Earth. You dont need God to reduce poverty, you just need to curtail the GREED of MAN.

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Christianity Etc › Re: He Is So Sick , He Needs Ur Prayer Only by NumberOne2(m): 7:34pm On May 13, 2015

Reach out to other brethren in your church.

"Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord: And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him." - James 5:14-15

Christianity Etc › Re: Tithing Is Scripturally Relevant In The New Testament by NumberOne2(m): 5:04pm On May 13, 2015*

openmine:
You are very wrong sir....tithes was extensively instructed(commanded) in d old testament by God to the people of israel as a way of feeding d levites that had no allotment in d land(lev 27:30-34;numbers 18:25-32)...Abraham was never instructed or commanded to tithe like the jews did...dats because it was a free will gesture and nothing more dan dat...i will repeat dis again to you...a tithe is wat it is..a tithe which is a compulsory requirement by God to d people of israel to give a tenth of their farm produce...i guess u bypassed those scriptures in d old testament

Oh, the English man will not kill us with English.
What is the difference between command and instruction?

"A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another." - John 13:34
Is Jesus forcing us to love in the above text?

Barnabaseloka:
Why do tithers give one-tenth (tithe) of their income at stipulated periods of time? Are they not trying to follow the law as the Israelites did? Free-will offering or giving for Christians is not bound to be one-tenth, but what one decides to give (whether one-tenth or not).
On the otherhand, if one promises God a tenth of one's income at a stipulated time (every month or every two months or every year), such agreement is between the person and God. It is called VOW. it has nothing to do with the one-tenth people are subjected to pay every month in churches today.

Tithing is NOT at a stipulated time? Not everyone gets income by months end.
Some people pay tithes 3 or 4 times in the same month. Some just 2 times a year.

openmine:
now seriously,i wud like 2 know ur definition of tithes according 2 d scriptures...so i know am not having an unfruitful dic=scus wit u...thanks?

Thanks for the question, best so far.
As I have been saying and constantly being misunderstood. Tithe is 10% of my income given to GOD OUT of LOVE (NOT FORCE). God is NOT a GOD of force.

This is my point. If you dont want to pay tithe, leave it (it is NOT by force) but DONT bring scriptures to negate it. The fact it wasnt mentioned in New Testament does mean it is DEAD. "Let everyman give as proposed in his heart..."
Masturbation wasnt mention neither was smoking. Are they good? We have the Holy Spirit to lead us.

Christianity Etc › Re: Christian Tithing - Separating Fact From Fiction by NumberOne2(m): 3:32pm On May 13, 2015

MrPristine:
The giving in Acts was voluntary giving and it was used to take care of the poor and the needy in the church unlike your tithes that is manipulative giving derived from twisting scripture and is used to enrich some lazy greedy goons.

Your bitterness toward what the tithe money is used for is blinding you. I am not a Pastor!
If you don't want to tithe, because of FRAUD say so. Dont use pretext of Giving to the Poor or OLD and NEW testament to justify it.
Just like those who Masturbate and look for Scriptures to justify that it is NOT a SIN.

Christianity Etc › Re: Tithing Is Scripturally Relevant In The New Testament by NumberOne2(m): 3:28pm On May 13, 2015

MrPristine:
Got you, by deliberately quoting verse 25 out of context i can safely conclude that you are a scriptural manipulator. Why didn't you quote it to the end and why did you omit verse 26 where God said the tither can use the money to buy anything he wants and consume it himself with his family? You've just proven your self to be a very dishonest fellow who twists scripture for personal gain and a lover of filthy lucre.

No you quote me out of context:
I spelt out the entire Deut 14:22-27 didnt I? I am trying to show that MONEY tithing existed in OLD Testament. What it is done with is NOT my issue. I am not a Priest.

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