₦airaland Forum

Political correctness

OkoYiboz:
Buhary is a very nice man, he left Kanu in Abuja.

When Abacha arrested Obasanjo back then for treason, he sent him to a prison in Yola. In a month, OBJ was forgotten by even his family. Going to see him was a long-term project. You gotta plan, save and strategize.

Do this one to Kanu and in 3 weeks, you'll only be hearing of him in BBC Hausa.


By the way, my pipo, how January 14th go be na?

And was Abacha 6 feet below, while OBJ ruled for 8 years.

Such is life.

datola:
So Buahari forgot Pastor Adeboye has influence on the electorate when they passed the law? They now remembered after the deed has been done?

This Fayose self!

For your information and the gullible ones, the code was implemented during GEJ era. When GEJ was confronted, he pointed that the man at the helm is a Redeem(ed) pastor. The Obazee was once accused of sexual harassment by one his senior staff members who's also a RCCG pastor's wife. May be thagt's why he was suspended or resigned from being a pastor.

The issue is more of power tussle within RCCG. Read Mr Adegboruwa's article of yesterday, another Redeemed pastor. Most of the pastors want to fly private jets around the world and and have unfettered access to church money.

That is the result of church building their treasure on earth. They display so much wealth and pay lip service to soul winning and service to mankind as admonished by our Lord Jesus Christ.

It is an abomination for men of God to bully people around with body guards and armed security men. Nothing Christ-like again about Nigerian church. The glory people see, desire and they want to die for is money, money and more money.

The difference between them and wicked politicians is the difference between 5 and 6.

Politician don't respect them, they only respect their influence on their naive followers for votes.

Isn't it surprising that every laws and codes passed by GEJ, are being activated by PMB.

The last time i checked Pastor Adeboye is not the founder of RCCG and he isn't bothered with Church money.

Why dont you speak for your Jihadist fighters and leave Christians alone .

Ballmer:
And which region is presently doing beta than the SW even with Tinubu's jeunjeun ? The problem with Nigerians is you expect democracy to offer you paradise but "brotherly" it will not.

Democracy only offers the best of available options n in Nigeria or Africa at large no black man or woman is willing to offer anything close to paradise.

I do believe a time will come that Africa will have charismatic leaders such as Mandela, Lee Kuan Yew n so on instead of the stream of incompetent morons we have governong us ATM but untill then we can only hope while some pray.

Go check the he Education statistics of the SW.
Even Oyo state Governor was so disappointed, that he suspended the payments of the WAEC fees.


Nobody is getting anything for Free, and nobody wanted anything free.

equuscaballus:
yes, there are mega churches in those countries. God is a major factor in any nation but the young man's point is Many ha refused to think for and by themselves. They are waiting for miracles. some believe they will make money by being pastors thus the reason for founding churches.

Oga, if you are working 8am - 5pm including traffic hours will have time for any Church miracle service?

Most fresh graduate from NYSC will are willing and Zealous to work, but where is the opportunity.

It is very difficult to be creative in an environment like Nigerias, except you have something else working for you.

It's great that Obazee has been removed from FRC.

I hope Stanbic IBTC issues will be settled.

seguntijan:
"I could not resist talking about this, early today. The number of registered churches in Nigeria is 23,216 according to the Financial Reporting Council of Nigeria. Note that these churches have branches. There may be over 2,000,000 documented church branches in Nigeria. Add to this, all the Mosques and undocumented religious houses all over Nigeria, we may be talking of 5,000,000. It calls for concern. Our major business in Nigeria presently is religion or faith marketing. Yet this business is tax free and enjoy free entry. Juxtapose this with the production base in Nigeria, you will see why we are a poor nation with all forms of recession. Last year there are just slightly about 1000 manufacturing companies still hanging out there in Nigeria. Many of them are even threatening closure. Some of the old factory premises have been converted to churches and Mosques. It is sad. These companies who produce what we eat and use in this country pay tax and go through harrowing experience to do business. They cannot afford the limousines, luxury homes and private planes these faith leaders use, yet they are the ones that pay tax which we use to build roads that these faith preachers travel. We have got many things wrong in this country. Faith without work and expecting miracles is definitely a mirage. Time to have a personal relationship with God and focus on productive work. I am a Christian and a believer but I find it difficult to accept what is going on. The starting point is to bring all churches, mosques and religious houses to the tax bracket, tax religious organizations as we tax our companies. Give them tax deductions/benefits where they spend on charity as applied to businesses Nigeria.
According to one of my Wards whom I am proud to have mentored "Nigeria would have been such a great country to live in if the passion with which churches are created is the same way enterprises are established and industries developed by individuals. With this, meaningful and gainful employment would have become a thing of the past.
In a sharp departure from what I was thought in my home when I was growing up, I suddenly realized that nobody talks about industry and hard work anymore in Nigeria but miracle.
It is so painful that the teachings of hard work, honesty and industry have been replaced with the teachings of prosperity via a divine means in my dear country.
Professor Alan Rugman, of blessed memory, thought me at Henley Business School that key factors of economic growth in any country are the presence of viable industries and strong competition within the industries.
We must all imbibe the spirit of hard work, industry, patriotism and honesty for us to grow as a nation"
That is the view of one of the 24 young and promising Business Managers that I mentor. It is a food for thought as we start the new year."

There are also big and super rich Churches in US, Korea e.t.c .

But the difference here is that their unemployment rate is low compared to Nigeria.

Most people see rushing to Church everyday are Jobless.

Most of Churches also got lots of employees who are been taxed by the government.

Why didn't they allow the crises before making this move.

I thought they were told to suspend this code last year.

KingstonDome:
Since the inception of the Buhari- led administration, there have been calls for restructuring. This current system being practiced in Nigeria has failed the whole country. The whole country is on fire. What is the way out?

Regionalism is the answer. It has worked for us before but the only defect is that it promoted ethnic loyalty but on the contrary, regionalism brought development into the country. The three regions were highly competitive and this brought about rapid development.

The West till today enjoys the legacy regionalism gave the country. Majority of the residents of the West are highly educated which has and is still bringing unprecedented growth.

The flairs of the type of regionalism practiced during the 1st republic should be worked on and Nigeria should be given an upgraded version.

This current system of governance in practice only makes the politicians lazy. Most of the states are in financial trouble because of the failure of past and successive governments to prepare for the worst. With an improved regional system, the problem of laziness would be curbed to a large extent.

It was under regionalism that Nigeria was a pride to Africa. Do not also forget that when Nigeria was practicing regionalism, there was no oil yet discovered. Now that we are in a world whereby oil is falling, regionalism is the answer to Nigeria's wake up call.

Continue at [url]kingstondome..com.ng/2016/10/regionalism-way-out-for-nigeria.html?m=1[/url]

Cc: mynd44 missyb3 lalasticlala obinoscopy domonique

Well I don't believe in Regional government for now, because the current set of Jeunjeun leadersh in the SW, Tinubu and co.

If you give them regional government, this people will turn the SW into their ATM without any achievement to show..

Ant and will ensure only Thier cronies get into power

We can see what they have done to the SW for 16 years.

What we need is Fiscal Federalism, were every state can function and develop at her own pace.

Dongreat:
Who wrote the Bible? Why use it in the Nigeria constitution? I thought I was speaking to a person who would reason from faith but see facts. Have a nice day.

You forgot the Constitution is written by the same religious people(Muslims and Christians). This is done In other to live in harmony.

Theirs no way Muslim or Christian lawmakers will allow a law fighting against his/her religion pass.

Note: this is not unique to Nigeria, all over Europe, Meddle East and Americas lawmakers are very careful dabbling into Religious matters.

Why do you think the Vertican a country, exist within another company country (Italy).

Nothing.is black and white.

Dongreat:
Yea it's all about power and money. A man who is wealthy might not be powerful but one that wield both wealth and power is a god. Religion leaders such as bishops, imams, chief hoodoo doctors etc are Demi gods and "god" to many people because they don't have only wealth but their followers are ready to do anything for them in return for divine rewards. In case you don't know the pope is as powerful as the "Queen of England", if not even more powerful than her. The pope has more than 1 billion followers ( who believes in better lives in heaven) and millions are fanatics. He may decide to bring about another crusade if he's drunk with power and yes getting a gun and weapon of mass destruction nowadays is as easy as purchasing a toilet paper. The power of the pope is controlled and checked by the Vatican Law hence his tenure is limited.

Now imagine "Rev King" ( the convicted man on death role for touching his member) has followers as that of the pope, many of which are of course fanatics. Yes, within you is a sense of fear from the chaos that may arise if he's criticized and he (rev king) decided to show you how drunk a mad man can be.

I hope you understand now.

Well that's a wrong move.

The only way the handle big Churches, is to work with their Holy books.

Note: the POPE don't have any tenure limit,

locodemy:
But bros,unless you already have FO in your portfolio,i will advice you go for Eterna instead of FO.

Eterna is still Bleeding,

Conoil Plc is a good stock, with nice dividend.

Intendy:
stock with new 52 week lows

cadbury #9.03k

stocks with new 52 week highs

ucap #3.31k

access bank #6.51k

It seems Ucap and Afriprud are twins.

But i will be very angry if they meet the mother UBA @ 4.9

Dongreat:
Now this is a sure bet about this man, "Inconsistency". I just supported him on the other thread and here disagreeing with him. Churches are religious bodies registered in any government as a NGO with no aim of profits. One will agree with me that nowadays it's not the case as the overseers of this churches are ranked among wealthiest men in the world with toys ranging from private jets to edifice mansions. If left unchecked these GOs (with massive wealth at their disposal and enormous supporters) will become very powerful that they can decide the affairs of a Nation resulting to chaos in that particular country. In other to checkmate their (GOs) affairs and bring about normality, their must be a rule deciding on the exit of GOs after a stipulated time and no transfer of office to family members. I support this move by the government as it's guaranteed to prevent ill actions from a potential mad and power drunk GO. Imagine a GO with fanatics members of about 80 million adults. That just one man with such power and guess what he can do with such power?? Yea you fears are as good as mine.

Ps: Before you quote me please think out of the box and don't behave like an average Nairalander than quote out of religion beliefs, tribal relationships and political parties. I welcome debates and no insults.

So it is all about their Powers and money.

If the law is all about checkmating the powers of the Pastor, then their are more battles ahead.

The last time i checked those member are a threat to National Security.

ayindejimmy:
Was this b4 or after 2011.

No link?

I was waiting for you to ask

http://www.cbcn-ng.org/newsdetail.php?tab=305

ayindejimmy:
Which of the bishops has spend 20 years?

They also gave gratitude to God for the successful tenure of Archbishop Felix Alaba Job as the[b] chief Shepherd of the Archdiocese for .43 years, [/b]wished the Archbishop emeritus “a happy, restful retirement” and the new metropolitan “a fruitful and successful tenure in office.”

KINGwax007:
proudly one. Opinion, the only reason I am an afonja is that I search for facts...



You can see thT the first phone is not even 101amd the second phone is the company is iTel and not Infinix. You said someone is the founding fathers of Tecno, yet, as at 2006, them Tecno limited was established, before being renamed to trassion, he was selling refurbished blackberry phones. Even now, he sells other brands like Samsung and many more. Keep receiving yourself...

Yeye chest beaters

TECNO, Infinix and co.are all Nigerian brands manufactured from China.

That is why you dont see them in the International Market .

Slot bushiness model allows other OEMs to trade in Slot stores. Slot don't sell used Phone .

othman11:
BUHARI! BUHARI!! BUHARI!!!... No Fuel. - Buhari. No Electricity -Buhari No money - Buhari No food -. Buhari No water -. Buhari Is Buhari God? Is Buhari a Magician? Or Is he Babalawo? If we really want things to go down well, we must reshape our manners,characters,attitude and our devotion to God. We don't help each other. We don't worship God properly. We don't help the needy. We don't give charity. We don't care for the old ones anymore. We killed and splash blood any how. We use human beings for rituals. We sold goods that are bought cheap exorbitantly. We hate each other. We don't love/help our neighbours. We are tribalistic. We are regionalistic. We are religious bigots. We don't pay our dues to God i.e Zakat, tithe etc. We are corrupt. We are everything evil. With all this, how do you expect things to be normal. Buhari is neither a Pastor nor an Imam. And so how do u expect miracles and wonders to be perform by Buhari under 2 years of his leadership. Even the gargantuan Jonathan postulated that no one can fix Nigeria's problem under four years. For Rome was not built in a day,and therefore no one should expect a change with a blink of an eye. BUHARI RELAX AND MOVE ON WITH YOUR TRANSFORMATION/CHANGE AGENDA.

So you know all these and still voted for Buhari

So what if some Churches don't comply.

donnie:
"It is not a new law" ...Yea right...

Amazing how everything evil seems to be activated by this government.

They say we were already in recession before PMB. I guess it only got activated when he came into power. SMH

This government

There were reports on Saturday that the Federal Government had suspended the not-for-profit governance code of 2016. The human rights activist and lawyer explained that the law was suspended in relation to the public sector and not for organisations like churches and mosques.

He said, “There was a stakeholders’ meeting where churches, mosques and civil society organisations met with the government. We actually challenged the regulation at the Federal High Court and we lost

So we are also expecting the Leader of Muslims (Sultan) to step down.

TheUmbra:
I honestly see this as state interference in religious leadership structure which should be out of their control. Religious organisations ought to have the freedom to run their administration as they see fit without any interference from the state.

Yes it's a serious interference.

It's like telling the POPE to step down after 20 years.

That decision should come from the Church and not the government.

rabzy:
So without these men you are no longer protected. What of the blood of Jesus.

What's your business with those men.

Are you saying they don't have the right to run their businesses.

You probably haven't registered any business with CAC so you don't know the implications.

franugo:
that's how u people will start creating divides like kids...d law is 4 all, weda churches or mosques, so mind ur words.
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Besides, expatiate on this 'protection' bit,..someone who has ruled 4 20years n doesn't want to give up d mantle to d younger generation is a greedy n selfish gay...n some peeps here be saying 4years is too long 4 buhari to rule, f.ckin. Hypocrites

Duh, when did government start interfering with religious matters.

Are Muslims and Christians serving the same God? NO

So you no longer have the right to manage your organization for 20years.

Government got more serious business to handle.

linearity:
This announcement/clarification leaves more questions unanswered:

Is Pastor Adeboye in retirement? Since this law appear to only put a term limit on church leaders in retirement?

If this is the case, he must have retired almost 20 years ago, yet there is no public data to confirm that he has retired and from church activities, he appear to have been in full control of the church for the past 20 years.

Before, you guys start blasting me, I am not criticizing or doubting the decision. I am just airing out some logical inference questions; so if you would rather assist with an answer or a better logical insight, it will be greatly appreciated.

He is not Retired. He remains the GO(internationally)

But the new law simply stated Nigeria Pastors can't lead their Church for more than 20 years.

Which means National Overseer term limit is 20years.

And the government will recognize the National Overseer as the head of the Church in Nigeria.

Jokerman:
Can't something be done to repeal this code??

Are you saying my G.O pastor Lazarus Muoka will handover to another pastor after 20 years??

Why would government want to pokenose into church leadership rather than auditing this churches finances??

Hmm.

Kumuyi, Oyedepo and Olukoya leadership are also affected.

I wonder what Pastor Oshinbanjo is doing as VP if he can't protect Christians

totalhouse:
I knew this is what the news will carry... Jokers
Anyways pastor J. O. Obayemi is the new national overseer (Nigeria alone) because of the new 'general bubu 's law' to 'checkmate' the church... In Nigeria today, any general overseer in Nigeria will always serve by tenure, no more general overseer till death in Nigeria..
The government is poking nose into church in order to have her way for a kind of control on the Church.. We know where they are going.. Revenue must be generated through all means... Just let them continue, we are ready for the insensitive government...
Pastor E. A. Adeboye is still the general overseer worldwide because Rccg is a global church

It should be National Overseer Nigeria .

The GO still remains the GO.

This info is not accurate.

Where are the LTE networks(Swift, Spectanet, NTEL e.t.c)

I thought Visafone has already gone to MTN.

Those men should be patient, everything is time.

When Bihari and his goons leave, things will be reversed.


Those who knows Nigeria history knows what I AM talking about.

JuanDeDios:
You make it sound like it's such a good thing. If you're in the world to have fun, it's a disadvantage for her. If you want to create and simply leave things in the world for others like Isaac Newton, Thomas Edison, etc, it's a good thing. She doesn't seem creative - that is why she has time to wonder about it. She may just end up one of those intelligent people who live a very unhappy life.

You really don't know how Melancholies behave.
What you call Fun, might be totally boring to Melancholies.

For me I don't enjoy outdoors, and crowded places.

Melancholies have so much fun when they a lone.
That's when they start experiencing Eureka Moments.

greggng:
Incident like this makes me remember one general from the southern kaduna who gave his people arms to defend themselves. Abacha sentence him to death eventually he was freed. The man saw what we didn't see today

You just reminded me of Patrick Ibrahim Yakowa death.

Kaduna is always a hotbed

I thought we already had a Naira Devaluation this year.