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gidgiddy:
These days, theres not much to smile or laugh about in Nigeria. Everything seems to get worse with each passing day. So when I came across this comment Simon Ekpa made on Facebook today, I appreciated the fact that it made me laugh. He said:

This is when Simon Ekpa represents terrorist Nigeria at the 2003 African Junior Athletics Championships games and comes back with Gold medals and Silver medal. The same government claimed today they dont know where he came from because no system working in a country called Nigeria



Had Nigeria been a civilised country, people would have been interested in knowing why this young man who once represented Nigeria and won numerous medals for it in sports, has since turned his back on the same country, returned the medals, and is today giving sit at home orders

Unfortunately, many Nigerians are not that civilised yet

...and the way he's turning his back on the country for marginalising Igbos is by sending hoodlums to go kill Igbos and destroy Igbo businesses, to the applause of some stupid Igbos? Idiots!

sapele914:
Keep wailing for that 3rd placed Loser.

Una win election yet you cant get over your obsession for OBI.. no be juju be that? Abi na colo ?

seunmsg:
This is not the leader we are looking for please. We want a leader who will get all relevant facts about an issue before rushing to make a decision and not one who makes a decision only to be corrected by the public.

The list of the winners of the award was published on the website with the names and nationalities of all the winners. Peter Obi or whoever checked on his behave did not do proper due diligence or simply ignored the others intentional. Either way, it’s very bad for a character that wants to become the president of a multiethnic country like Nigeria. We dodged a bullet by not electing that ineffectual clown as our president.

He's still far better than the character who rigged his way into aso rock to go and sleep... last I checked, the druglord hasnt bothered to congratulate anyone, and neither has any of his multitude of Yoruba appointees

richie240:
Better question:
What does he stand to lose by congratulating all d 15 students as against only one student?
And 'coincidentally' she's also igbo.

Do you have any evidence proving that he was informed about the 15 students who won the award?

Anyway, I've learnt from some dumb OBI haters today on twitter that OBI hates everybody, including fellow Igbos. Must be the reason he didnt congratulate 4 Igbo award recepients.

richie240:
What better way to mask his bigotry if not to select one igbo as alibi and feign ignorance of the rest incase he's called out as he's presently being called out.

Nor be today women don dey face front (dey) piss backward nwokem, we nor be small pikin.

And what does he stand to gain by congratulating 1 igbo person and ignoring the other 4?...

Believeintruth:
Oga stop being dense, worley said in their description that the pipeline itself is built from Nigeria to Morocco which is 5,300km to connect to the existing 1,700km Mahgreb-Dahla European pipeline. NNPC and Worley are definitely trying to sensationalise for PR purposes. The Moroccan oil industry news stated clearly that the pipeline is 5,300km to connect to the 1,700km existing pipeline. Oga stop being stupid naaaa go and face your NHS contract job in the UK and stop being dense.

Oga stop pulling shitty info out your ass and blabbing directionlessly.... You claim the 1700km segment has been built, you claim you saw it in a Worley report.... abeg leave talk for parrot and just show us a screenshot of this Worley report (whether real or fake) where you saw that the 1700km has been built. No need for long talk...

richie240:
....and coincidentally, d 'only one he had info on (out of 15) was igbo.
Udonminit!
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Apparently he didnt congratulate the other about 5 Igbos on the list because he hates Igbos too....

See several idiots saying he singled out the ONLY IGBO person in the list when rven a blind person can see up to 5 Igbos on the list.

plaindealer:
It's with deepest regret that I have to openly comment on your behaviour, which I consider incompatible with the status of "potential president of Nigeria". The Di upana Award 2023 was awarded to 18 Nigerians, but you singled out an Igbo woman to congratulate.

What happened to the twin sisters, Eduek and Uforo Nsentip, who also got the award, as well as Yusuf Babatunde, Favour Abatang, Olalekan Ajayi, and the other 12 young Nigerians who received the award alongside the Oyinye Omenugha? They do not deserve to be congratulated because they are not Igbo.

Is this not a classical example of bigotry?

Perhaps Malam Elrufai was correct when he called you a tribal bigot in 2018. Could you reflect on your behaviour and come to understand that if you ever become president, you aren't going to only be an "Igbo President". Thank you.

https://tribuneonlineng.com/nigerian-twin-sisters-win-diana-award/

Very silly reasoning by dumb anti OBI elements. Of course there were several other Nigerians on that list, including about 4-5 other Igbos.

So if these guys claim OBI congratulated the girl because she is Igbo, how come he didnt congratulate the other Igbos on the list?... He must hate Igbos too?

Believeintruth:
Oga give it up the total length is 7,000km agreed, but the existing that is there already is 1,700 and it is in Morocco. Oga the pipe from Nigeria to Morocco is the main crux and it is 5,600km stop the deception.

NNPC is tweeting that they want to build a 7000km pipeline and 1700km already exists?... Worley is announcing they won a FEED contract for a 7000km pipeline but you say part of the pipeline exists?

Abeg no vex; can you screenshot and show us where you got the info that 1700km has already been constructed? Show us make we laugh your illiteracy small.

Believeintruth:
Oga it is you that is not comprehending. It said the pipeline from Nigeria to North of Morrocco that is where it terminates and connect to the existing. The distance from Nigeria to the existing pipeline is 5,300km stop twisting and manipulating data. This is from Vanguard;

By Obas Esiedesa

Four more countries have signed up for the 5,000Km Nigeria-Morocco gas pipelines project estimated to cost about $25 billion to construct.


The project which is an extension of the West African Gas pipeline now has 13 countries on board.




The new countries which signed a memorandum of understanding at the ECOWAS Secretariat on Friday are Republic of Benin, Guinea, Liberia and Ivory Coast.

They join Nigeria, Morocco, Ghana, Senegal, Gambia, Guinea Bissau, Sierra Leone, Togo and Mauritania for the multi-billion dollar pan-African project expected to deliver about four billion cubic feet of gas daily when fully operational.

Speaking at the event in Abuja, the Group Chief Executive, NNPC Limited, Mr. Mele Kyari said the project shows that African countries are determined to take their destinies in their hands and bridge the huge energy gap in the continent.

Kyari explained that the pipeline network would connect all the eleven coastal countries in West Africa and the landlocked countries of Ivory Coast, Niger Republic, and Burkina Faso.

According to him, “We are energy deficient. The significant gas that is available in Nigeria, Senegal, Mauritania and a few other countries can now be pulled together by this pipeline network and to connect all of us and make energy available to all of us and create prosperity in our various countries. It is a pan-African agenda”.

He noted that the addition of more countries into the project “is a clear demonstration of the commitment of the host governments, the ECOWAS Commission, and the National Oil Companies to deliver on this strategic project, creating wealth and value for our countries and other stakeholders.

“We are pleased to note that currently, FEED Phase II Study (Front End Engineering Study) is over 70% and the tendering processes for the Surveys, Environmental and Social Impact Assessment (ESIA) as well as Land Acquisition & Resettlement Policy Framework (LARPF) are on track with clear visibility into project funding.

Kaii!... So in your wisdom and understanding, the Pipeline Technology Journal, Upstream Online, THISDAY Newspaper, Leadership Newspaper, Daily Trust, Tribune, The Nation, several other Nigerian and foreign sites which all reported 7000km are all wrong; even the owners of the project (NNPC) which tweeted 7000km must have made a mistake, but Vanguard Newspaper that reported 5000km (referring obviously to the offshore section) must be the right one? Welldone Sir!

If you truly want to learn, the reports I showed you, including the graphical maps, provided more details and clarity for the project; a 5300km offshore section from Nigeria to Morocco (Dakha), and a 1700 km onshore section from Dakhla (Morocco) to the final receiver station feeding into the existing MEP. But if you prefer blind arguments over knoweldge, feel free to keep repeating how everyone, including NNPC, is wrong... welldone to you!

https://www.pipeline-journal.net/news/four-more-countries-sign-7000-km-nigeria-morocco-gas-pipeline-project
https://www.upstreamonline.com/field-development/worley-lands-feed-contract-for-7000-km-gas-pipeline-between-nigeria-and-morocco/2-1-1207970
https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2022/09/14/nnpcl-set-to-sign-7000km-gas-pipeline-contract-with-morocco-west-african-countries
https://leadership.ng/7000km-nigeria-morocco-gas-pipeline-projectll-create-wealth-kyari/
https://dailytrust.com/nigeria-morocco-sign-7000km-gas-pipeline-deal-today/
https://thenationonlineng.net/nigeria-morocco-sign-7000km-gas-pipeline-pact-thursday/
https://tribuneonlineng.com/fg-morocco-to-sign-7000km-gas-pipeline-project-thursday/
https://business247news.com/2022/09/16/mele-kyari-lists-benefits-of-nigeria-morocco-gas-pipeline-project-signs-mou/
https://www.moroccoworldnews.com/2022/09/351341/gas-pipeline-nigeria-morocco-to-seal-agreements-with-senegal-mauritania
https://punchng.com/nigeria-morocco-plan-worlds-longest-offshore-gas-pipeline/

Believeintruth:
When you want to lie please lie with Finesse. You see you are not a smart as you want to claim. There is already an existing 1,700km pipeline from Dakhla-Morocco Maghreb European Pipeline. The pipeline from Nigeria to Dakhla morocco is 5,300km so Nigeria is just linking the existing pipeline to Europe from Morocco

Believeintruth:
You are a big liar the screenshot is clear the 1,700km is already existing and it is not within Morocco it is the Morocco-Mahgreb to Europe pipeline. Chai fear God oooooo stop lying let thunder not fire you.

Believeintruth:
you think you can deceive people i dey ready for you wella. See lies oooo something that is clear the 1,700KM in all sense of the word is not even onshore and it is already and existing pipeline from the Moroccan Mahgreb all the way to Europe via Gibraltar. Let God not swear for you when you want to deceive people. Idiot

Hehehe!.. I actually admire your resilience and fighting spirit... but it's one thing to read, and it is another thing to comprehend. So after reading that report (see cropped image), what your brain understood is that it is the 1700 km onshore section that already exists?

I know say you be capital olodo and will never comprehend this; but for the sake of others reading it, I will break it down. The proposed Nigeria Morocco Gas Pipeline (NMGP) consists of the following:
- 5300km offshore section between Nigeria and Dakhla (a city in Morocco)
- 1700km onshore section which starts from Dakhla and connects into the EXISTING Maghreb Europe Pipeline (MEP)

key point to note: It is the Maghreb to Europe Pipeline (MEP) that already exists, not the 1700km Dakhla to MEP line.

Chaiii!!!.. English comprehension cant be so difficult na!

Believeintruth:
Oga it is not 7,000km. The onshore part is from Nigeria to Ghana which is complete and part of the West african gas pipeline. Haaaa!!!!! fear God when you want to lie and be stupid. The offshore part is from Ghana down to Morrocco stop lying abeg.

Oga stop trying to be stupid here, where does the offshore part of pipeline path from Nigeria to Morrocco start? Oga you said 7,000km now you have now decided to switch to 5,600km meaning you are not even sure. See guy i hate people who like to play propaganda and it is clear you are a paid propaganda actor look any economist from a value standpoint will chose the Nigeria Morocco pipeline because for one it will cement Nigeria strategically as a supplier in West Africa for quick gains before even supplying to Europe. again the sahara route is still a security risk with the presence of islamist, and Tuareg rebels on that route.

Lol... Did he just say the onshore part is from Nigeria to Ghana? ... This guy is really 'on colos'

So despite the illustrative map and links, your latest 'colomatic' revelation is that the West African Gas Pipeline is onshore?

Meanwhile in response to the highlighted statement, this is what I said:
- 5300km is for the offshore/subsea segment between Nigeria and Morocco (some sites reported this as 5600km)
- 1700km is for the onshore (land) segment within Morocco
- 7000km is Total pipeline length (i.e. offshore + offshore) = 5300 + 1700 = 7000km

I know it will take you upwards of 24 hours to comprehend this but I dey patient and I'm enjoying your back-to-back jonzing.

Believeintruth:
you are not a good liar, you are saying it is 7,000km from premium times that is good with lies. the distance is 5,000km

Believeintruth:
That is why you are compound dunce without brain. you are clearly the one who Jazzman suspended his brain that is why you are only fit for telling lies and propaganda. Premium times is who you are referring to for lies. The true distance for the pipeline from Nigeria to Morocco is 5,000km and with connections to more countries which will give Nigeria more value than Trans Sahara pipeline.

Believeintruth:
Oga i am also in the office, i just came out from a meeting where we charted deals i am not like you who is messing up with an NHS contractor in UK lying that you are in office. Oga stop using premium times to spew lies. Nigeria-Morroco pipeline is 5,000km long...... you this idiot think you are better than me because internet makes fools like you think you matter

Ohh! so it's now 5000 km, no longer 1500km? ... Guy you tough well well! But I'm glad that your brain is finally now able to process the commonsensical information, albeit after a gruelling 24 hours... We're making progress!

Meanwhile, is Algeria still closer to France than Spain on your map?... I just want to check something.

Anyway, now that you agree that its 5000km and not 1500km, I implore you to go back and read through the reports you just read to get proper details. The offshore segment of the pipeline between Nigeria and Morocco is 5300 km (some sites quote 5600km), while there's a 1700 km onshore section within Morocco; but full length of the pipeline (onshore + offshore) is about 7000km. If PREMIUM TIMES is your problem, here is the same report by THISDAY and some other non-Nigerian sites:

https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2022/09/14/nnpcl-set-to-sign-7000km-gas-pipeline-contract-with-morocco-west-african-countries
https://www.upstreamonline.com/field-development/worley-lands-feed-contract-for-7000-km-gas-pipeline-between-nigeria-and-morocco/2-1-1207970
https://www.moroccoworldnews.com/2022/04/348600/nigeria-morocco-pipeline-australias-worley-to-conduct-feasibility-study
https://www.offshore-mag.com/pipelines/article/14277312/worley-performing-feed-for-recordlength-west-africa-offshore-pipeline

Black man! make una try dey read make oyibo no dey yab us abeg!

Believeintruth:
calculate the total distance and add it to the trans saharan pipeline and please add all the branches of the pipeline, you must be a fool and your parents must have regretted birthing a cretin like you

Kaii... Weyrey still has the confidence to come spew more trash without shame...

You win abeg; I dey office!

Still amazes me how such an intelligent man just chose to destroy his legacy with useless bigotry!

Believeintruth:
Again you are liar spain is very far from Algeria the closest european country to Algeria is France. You really don't know how to Lie. Again with the morocco pipe route you put to spain are you now lying that there is no pipeline from Morocco to Spain via Gibraltar?
Oga i think you are the one with a low IQ and you are an embarassment to your parents that sent you to school.

Ahh, I didnt even see the bomb you dropped here. So you have active internet connection to type these comments here, but you couldn't simply check your map to see which European country is closest to Algeria before you rushed to type this rubbish? .... Chaii !!

And by the way, the over 4000 km Trans-Saharan Gas Pipeline runs from Warri Nigeria to the Hassi R'Mel gas hub in Algeria; it does not extend to Spain because there are already several existing interconnector pipelines from Algeria to Spain. Likewise the 7000 km pipeline to Morocco will terminate at Morocco (it doesnt need to extend to Spain cos interconnector pipelines already exist between Morocco and Spain).

If after taking a look at the images below, you still come back to embarass yourself, then e no go beta for the ritualist and jazzman wey use your brain like this!

https://www.spglobal.com/commodityinsights/en/market-insights/latest-news/natural-gas/062122-algeria-niger-nigeria-pledge-acceleration-of-work-on-trans-saharan-gas-link

Believeintruth:
You think you can manipulate me to insult you, it is your parents that are ashamed and embarassed with how useless you have become. You want to be a mischievious person, you only ended the diagram of the Tran Sahara pipeline in Algeria, but you continued to Spain for the Nigeria to Morocco pipeline to sell and agenda. I dare you to show us the extension of the pipeline from Tamnaraset to Europe. You are not smart at all.

Believeintruth:
Again you are liar spain is very far from Algeria the closest european country to Algeria is France. You really don't know how to Lie. Again with the morocco pipe route you put to spain are you now lying that there is no pipeline from Morocco to Spain via Gibraltar?
Oga i think you are the one with a low IQ and you are an embarassment to your parents that sent you to school.

My apologies for insulting you; but you know it's really difficult educating people who appear to have learning difficulties; moreso when the inability to learn is intentionally driven by sentiments.

I've given up on your inability to apply common sense. If you still want to stubbornly insist that a curved route is 3 times shorter than a straight line route, then be my guest and keep embarrassing youself.

I will drop this here just for the benefit of others reading through this thread who may genuinely seek info (not for people who just want to argue blindly). The entire length of the Nigeria-Morocco Gas Pipeline (NMGP) is about 7000 km, not 1500 km as you claim; there's no way a circular route will be shorter than a straight line.

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/business/business-news/554358-what-the-nigeria-morocco-gas-pipeline-project-will-do-for-africa-mele-kyari.html

Believeintruth:
Oga did you read the links or you just want to play propaganda. Oga stop trying to be dense I repeat stop this stupid games. The Nigeria Morocco pipeline is still the most profitable. You failed to add that there is already an existing pipeline to Ghana supplying gas so the pipeline to Morocco will continue from Ghana. Hence the short distance and the savings. Oga you think you are smart in lying. Dude try and have sense and stop being dense. Again you mischievously stopped the pipeline map at Algeria but continually drew the Morocco pipeline to Spain. Oga stop the manipulative games it doesn't work the profitable pipeline is the Morocco pipeline as it will tap from the West African gas pipeline and Nigeria will still make money as the principal gas supplier for the whole of West Africa. All the way to Morocco. The EU will have to send a trunk line to Morocco from Spain to Gibraltar. Oga stop playing mischief abeg

Chaii... the only people I pity are the people who worked their asses out to send you to school.

So after you saw that map I posted, your brain still believes that a straight pipeline to Algeria is almost 3 times the length of a curved pipeline to Morocco? All because you saw it in a LINK? So at your age you cannot apply common sense because you saw something in a LINK? So if a LINK tells you the distance from Lagos to Newyork is 100 km, you no fit apply common sense judgement?

You say the pipeline stops at Algeria; YES the TSGP will stop at Algeria cos there's already an existing interconnector pipeline from Algeria to Spain. Same with Morocco, yes there's an existing pipeline up to Ghana already; but looking at that map illustration, if you still think a pipeline from Ghana to Algeria is almost 3 times shorter than one from Nigeria straight to Algeria, then there's really a problem with your IQ.

Believeintruth:
Oga stop being dense. It is shorter by running a substantial pipeline from Warri to Morocco. And by the way it is not 6000km make u take am easy to lie. I have busted your lies that is why you are pained. Try and have sense abeg, stop defending rubbish policies.

Believeintruth:
To dispel your lies read this below.

https://www.offshore-technology.com/news/morocco-pipeline-nigerian-gas/#:~:text=Morocco%20is%20planning%20to%20build,countries%20and%20extending%20to%20Europe.

The distance is less than 2000km about 1500km approx.

Believeintruth:
When you want to lie,please lie with finesse stop making yourself appear ridiculous. Nigeria to Morocco pipeline with a spur yo Spain via Gibraltar is 1500km approx. But the transaharan pipeline is 4128km even the cost outlay is not economically smart. That was why it was never revived until daddy Bubu signed the PIB for dubious reasons.

Oga take a look at the image below... So if someone comes to you and tells you the Trans-Saharan Gas Pipeline (TSGP) is 4128km and that the Nigeria Morocco Gas Pipeline (NMGP) is 1500km, you will just swallow that without applying any wisdom or common sense? ... So you think a pipeline which runs through the entire coast from west to northern Africa is shorter than a pipeline which literally goes straight from point-to-point? ...And with this level of reasoning, you think I'm the one who's dense? Kaii!

Poverty mentality and illiteracy are the only reasons anyone with a brain would call out a man who's diligently earning a living for himself.

Believeintruth:
Oga stop trying to use imaginary sentiments to gaslight me. My point is clear on this, from an economic standpoint and business strategic standpoint, the project is a very stupid idea. I would rather opt for the subsea route, where countries like Senegal, Gambia and Cote d'ivorie can tap from that pipeline and we will make additional money from supplying gas and control the supply in West Africa beyond Ghana, all the way to Europe via Spain, Morocco corridor. It is shorter and less risky to disruptions from Tuareg rebels and islamists in the Sahel region.

Lol... Subsea pipeline route is shorter than an onshore route? ...The kind of things we deal with on Nairaland!

Longest subsea pipeline ever built is roughly 1200km... but you want a poor Nigeria to break a GWR by building an over 6000km subsea pipeline with money plucked from trees? The people who did feasibility studies and chose the more practical and achievable onshore route must all be idiots indeed! Perhaps we should borrow from 3 future generations to achieve this feat...

Believeintruth:
Dude shut up please. You are just playing propaganda here and your eye service stinks. The trans Sahara pipeline concept was designed in the Buhari administration even if past administrations muted the idea. But even at that it still remained a pipe dream because of the issue of how countries will tax for gas that passes through the pipeline as it charts through their countries.
Once agains just shut up abeg

Oga I wouldnt waste more precious time arguing with an ignorant person who thinks the Trans Saharan Gas Pipeline was a project conceived by Buhari. Your criticism of the project is obviously from a sentimental angle - "it is a Buhari project so therefore i must criticise it".

No further comments from me!

Believeintruth:
Dude you are really living in dreamland and you really don't understand the game France has against Nigeria. You think France will allow Niger and Algeria partner with Nigeria for that pipeline, you ate really a joker walahi. Well in your heart you know the truth, but in your quest to deceive people in this forum to justify your propaganda fees you will still say otherwise. Buhari conceived this project as far back as 2017 but up until now it has not been fully implemented, do you know why? It is the same issue I highlighted, the fees Nigeria will pay per cubic ft of gas supplied through the pipeline that will pass through Algeria and there's Niger who will also charge per cubic ft and these would be added to the total selling price for Nigerian gas. So in terms of competitive advantage whose gas will be cheaper? And mind you we still have a large domestic gas market for energy which will need to be satisfied so definitely we will be stretched. So it is a no brainer going through the north. Leave ethnic sentiments and cheap propaganda politics aside the move is not feasible economically and we will lose out so much in this. The person who will make so much from that pipeline is Algeria.

Propaganda fee? Who's paying that? You think everybody you meet online is hungry for the pitance you guys get from selling your conscience online?

You're not more knowledgeable than the people who conceived the idea of this pipeline over 50 years ago (probably before you were born). The fact that you think the Trans saharan Gas pipeline was conceived by Buhari in 2017 just confirms my suspicion that you're largely ignorant on the matter being discussed. You're just making emotional arguments because you hate the govt and feel a compulsion to oppose anything you think the govt does.

A friendly advice - Quit commenting on topics you have no clue about.

Stoplying:
I won't debate anybody in this forum anymore, most people on this website do not obey logic, I'm done with wasting my time trying to bring people back to sanity.

But the logic you tried to bring up was flawed wasnt it?

You have a shop in which you sell biscuits. The demand is higher than what you can supply. You have a neighbour who has excess in stock, but doesnt know how to sell it. As a businessmen, what will you do?

Would you look for a way to pull down and destroy your neighbour's business, or will you find a way to partner with them for mutual benefit?... Unfortunately a lot of people think 'pulling down the next person' is a meaningful business strategy.

Believeintruth:
Oga I hate people like you that want to spin every lie to satisfy your view. You want to use my comment where I quoted justice Oputa to gaslight me whereas it is your malicious deliberate attempt to deceive the people is what I am saying. No reasonable government that wants to consider economic and energy security will take the northern route, because apart from the fact that the countries in that route are competitors that would be at a better advantage than us, mind you Algeria and France are allies and would use these countries to ring fence us to get cheap gas, while we sell at a very low value in the market, this is one aspect you have refused to see. Again that pipe at the northern route which is situated in a very insecure and unstable Sahel region is a very bad idea. First of all that area has rebels that are heavily armed by foreign powers who would love to take out that pipeline to influence policy against us.
Again you are talking about cost of subsea pipeline. Even if you add the opportunity cost of using the subsea option to Morocco as against the northern route, it is the best option because adding the costs would still make us have a price that is fair to Europe for gad sales.
Again you have failed to think deeply to see this option. You are busy talking about the propaganda of creating new jobs. If the pipeline is not profitable these benefits are meaningless.

Oga what are you on about? Who am I trying to deceive with my opinion? My views are strictly what I believe is most pragmatic and best for a poor developing country like Nigeria. My views aren't influenced by any ethnic, tribal or political sentiments; but rather are driven purely by a desire to see an improved economy. Irrespective of who the president is, I would applaud whatever I think is a good develpment without nonsense sentiments.

Regarding the profitability of the pipeline, kindly leave that economic decision for experienced and knowledgeable experts who are exposed to better info and relevant data to make those calls. The people who did the economic feasibility studies on the trans-saharan gas pipeline aren't fools like you think.

Returning to your "Algeria is our competitor" obsession; Algeria has a massive gas reserve, but they still cant meet European demand. Algeria is more than happy to partner with Nigeria in the gas business because a mutual partnership benefits them more than mutual enmity. You say Algeria is an ally of France; but France will not be stupid enough to sabotage it's own gas supply; they would rather bomb Algeria than have them as a stumbling block to European gas supply. Algeria is happy to have the trans-saharan gas pipeline routed through their country because they will be getting some revenue from it. Even Morocco is scheming night and day trying to make deals for Nigeria to route a pipeline through their country for similar economic gain, but you're here postulating that Algeria would block the pipeline? Your assumptions are patently wrong!

Believeintruth:
Again you are not a smart person to see that Nigeria will have to charge more per cubit feet of gas that they will pump via these countries to Europe. Why because they will pay these countries for the gas passing through theor countries per cubic feet. In an economic sense the pricing for Nigeria's gas coming from that pipeline will not be competitive at all.
The cheapest option which will guarantee maximum returns is from Bayelsa or Warri coastline to Morocco then to Spain via Gibraltar. The cost out lay is cheaper and we will get maximum value. Mind you the pipe like goes from Kano, through Agadez and Tamnaraset in Algeria then to Europe. Agadez to Tamnaraset are rough spots for ISWAP, Boko Haram and Tuareg rebels that pipe will always be attacked on a regular especially by extremists who seek to cripple a country's economic base.
That is why Late Justic Oputa said Nigerians are incapable of deep thought. You just confirmed it, all because you want to defend a stupid agenda from the government.

Justice Oputa was actually right, a lot of Nigerians are incapable of deep thought, that explains why you only view the viability of a subsea pipeline only from the 'potentially higher profit' point of view, but appear to be blind to the prohibitive capital costs, despite all my explanations.

Again I ask, do you know how much it cost to build a mile of subsea pipeline?... The longest subsea pipeline in the world is just over 1200 km long, but somehow you think NIgeria can pull off a 6000+ km subsea pipeline to Europe? Where will the money come from?

You keep repeating that Nigeria would pay for passing a pipeline through other countries; you think the people who worked the economic feasibility of the project are fools that they didnt factor the royalties/rent into the operational cost of the pipeline? ...

And then again, there's a need to develop local infrastructure (pipelines) for gas utilisation within Nigeria. So what is wrong if we build a gas pipeline that passes northern Nigeria?

From your last statement it's obvious that your anti-government sentiments is clouding your objectivity! ...Quit dropping opinions on subjects you're ignorant about all because you feel a compulsion to criticise and rubbish everything done by government. This project has been in the books for a very long time (possibly before you were even born); it is definitely a welcome development!

Babysho:
Obviously, doing both would be great! But it’ll cost a lot to do both. In the event where we had to pick one (which was our initial argument), your opinion was suggesting oil and pipes over agriculture and I strongly disagreed.

I don't have to pick one when i can do both. The big question is, of the 2 choices, which of them can pay off it's loan faster?... Nigeria already has pure natural gas which is currently being burnt away as flares. Nigeria currently burns away almost $1billion in gas annually which can pretty quickly be trapped as revenue... Developing agriculture is important, but I don't believe it's a good enough reason to abandon otehr viable income earners.

Babysho:
lol you don’t even understand the philosophy behind your last paragraph and you keep bringing it up. A wealthy man is one that can feed his family that they even get fat. We in Nigeria are not wealthy yet. Tell me a country that is top ten in the world THAT HAS ARABLE LAND and doesn’t invest heavily in agriculture. USA, China, Russia even India are top producers. 54% of the land in Netherlands is used for agriculture despite having gas and it’s only natural according to evolution. Africa is starving because African countries with the arable land are digging the soil for everything but food.

The foundation of your argument is very questionable and like I said it’s a selfish worldview based on capitalist ejaculations.

Those countries you mention will never abandon a readily available income generator like gas in their quest for developing agriculture. Agriculture is important, but again and again, that is not a reason you shouldn't grab other low hanging fruits.... Those countries will gladly use the money generated from the gas to develop their agricultural sector, they wouldn't abandon oil and gas in search of food!

Babysho:
I take it that you don’t read books on human evolution and Africa as well is why you think building a pipe is the same as food. All I see you say is earn earn earn, be selfish and that was the epoch of capitalism in this world.

If you have oil and pipes and I have food, I can inflate the price of my food so it appears like food that grows on its own in all lands and oil that is a luxury that requires several processes are of the same value. To buy my food, you therefore, have to reduce the value of your oil to shitttt to meet your food needs.

I really hope people like you do not aspire to be leaders in the near future because you don’t read the important African books only those “How to be a millionaire in 5 days” books.

No lets try that again cos your analogy is flawed.

You have FOOD only, while I have OIL and GAS and FOOD. Kindly explain to me how you'd inflate the price of your food to me when I also have food?

Like I said in my previous post, a poor man thinks of only his next meal, while a wealthy person thinks of how to sustain the next generation. A poor man thinks of hiw to grow food to feed his family, a rich mind thinks beyond just food.

Gajagojo:
Shut up

Gajagojo:
You are ignorant of your ignorance
Why is the Naira not part of. "forex"
Selling gas to Europe will not help Nigeria
We get more forex from Diaspora Nigerians in one year than we do from gas in 10 years
We need to use gas in Nigeria at the same levell or higherl than those countries that buy our gas. EVEN BANGLADESH uses more gas than us.
we should Not invest in selling more to them while our people cut down trees to use as cooking fuel

Genius I hear you... Nigeria does not need forex! Die the matter abeg!