₦airaland Forum

AnyanwuSilas:
We're not talking of current production so stop deceiving yourself.

We're talking of the construction going on for future production.

Here was the minister of petroleum from South South saying it himself that South East is the future. Sylvia Timpere

Gas reserves are all over the southern and even some middle belt basins in Nigeria. In the last 60 years or so, 97% of Nigeria's oil and gas production has been from the south-south region and this has literally fed the entire six regions of Nigeria for the last 6 decades. We've never seen people of the SS screaming blue murder on how SS gas is being sold to Europe or Asia or the Americas; we also never heard people of the SS lamenting the building of NLNG train 1 to 5. Why exactly have you guys insisted on bringing ridicule to the SE with this 'our gas' campaign?

So let's even assume there's gas reserves only in the SE, how exactly can this gas be converted to wealth if pipelines aren't built?

Why's the entire discussion on this thread about the south east? Is it genuine ignorance at play or just a deliberate attempt at mischief? Cos the last time I checked, over 90% of Nigeria's current gas production is currently from the south-south.

Is asking for transparency really such an offensive thing or perhaps a sin before God?

Financial transparency to congregants and the government is a norm in churches in some foreign countries. Does this make these churches less holy or sanctified?

Why is it mainly in African churches that asking for financial transparency is frowned upon?

tosyne2much:
OP needs a knock on his head

Not even Ebenezer Obey, Sunny Ade, Orlando Owo and Lagbaja made your top 5 list

When last did these people sing a song?

Where is Helinues? Oya come and spew your usuals...

Wickedfacts:
Most of those antagonising this project are Igbos. However, it is unfortunate that this project has shown the kind of hatred Igbos have for the South South.

You love the south south so much, so why didnt you start the project in the south south? You conveniently started it in Lagos knowing fully well the construction will barely ever cross beyond the Lagos border even in 8 years.

You love the south south so much but the existing east-west road which links all major states in the region, you've refused to complete it after 2 decades, citing lack of funds. It'd cost less than a trillion naira to complete the east-west road but you claim there's no money for that; instead you choose to prioritise building a brand new N15trillion road starting with Phase 1 which conveniently starts and ends inside Lagos. Meanwhile it is Igbos that hate the SS?

So much love for the south south indeed! ❤️

These clowns will stop at nothing to force this into an ethnic debate.... They know that once they mention ethnicity, every chance of a sensible debate is buried and then the thieves in power have the freedom to loot however they please..... You claim theres no money to fix the existing roads that go across the south south region, yet you want to spend an imaginary N15 trillion to build a brand new road?.... You claim you're doing it for the south south, yet you're starting inside Lagos (and obviously ending inside Lagos).

Christistruth00:
So where was all this Energy of Opposition when the Second Niger Bridge was being built
And all the roads you mentioned were already in need of fixing?

Common sense is what I stated; political and ethnic sentiments is the only reason the simple logic wouldn't make sense to some of you. Stop trying to decieve yourself thinking you're deceiving the south south with fake love.

Niger bridge was a totally different scenario and can never be compared. There was nothing wrong with the existing bridge besides the perennial vehicular traffic which causes agony to commuters. Under that scenario, the only sensible solution was a second bridge. If the existing niger bridge was barely motorable and could be fixed with a microscopic fraction of the cost of a new bridge, the agitation would have been for the existing bridge to be fixed first, especially since it would undoubtedly represent a quicker, cheaper, practical, easily achievable and most sensible solution from the perspective of prioritsation. Again, this is common sensesense!

Christistruth00:
This is what Yoruba People call Etanu

(Bad Belle)

Only those who don't want SS Progress would condemn the Lagos Calabar Highway

And they opened their eyes and saw how Much was sunk into building Abuja using the SS Resources

Anyway when you remember the Story of how Azikiwe transfered the Capital of the Eastern Region from Calabar to Enugu against all protests and British advice you understand what's going on better

You want to help the south south, yet you didnt complete the east-west road that's been under construction for 20 years?

You want to help the South South yet didnt complete the Sagamu-Ore-Benin-Sapele-Warri road thats been under construction for over 2 decades?

You want to help the south south yet you cant patch up the Benin-Auchi road that's swallowing vehicles every rainy season?

All of the above roads connect all major cities in the south south and would cost less than N1trillion to fix, but for over 2 decades you claim there's no money to fix them. Rather because you love the south south so much, you want to sink N15.6 trillion into a brand new coastal superhighway starting with Phase 1 which conveniently starts and ends inside Lagos? You people must think you're talking to cavemen.

bottlewater1:
This is what we are saying, instead of you to hold your governor, senator, house of rep member and high profile politician in that area
to ransom you are shouting tinubu.

Since when did governors and senators start being responsible for federal highways?

Why's anyone surprised or rattled by this?
During the last campaigns, the only notable achievement of BAT as an 8 year governor was that he significantly increased IGR in Lagos. Many flaunted this as an achievement during the elections, so what's the current noise about?

Reflect7:
Mr Man, that road will be completed in 7 to 8 years maximum.

I don't know where you people and Obi are plucking out these outlandish figures like 30 years and all this nonsense.

You need to stop this.

Regarding the funding, ''The total estimated cost of the 700km Lagos-Calabar Coastal road project is put at N15.6 trillion. The funding model for the Lagos-Calabar coastal road project is EPC+ (Engineering, Procurement, Construction, and Financing) where the federal government would put up a counterpart financing of around 30% while the contractor funds the remainder.

Last October, FEC approved the EPC+ model for this project in favor of Hitech Construction company. Going by the estimated N15.6 trillion cost for the entire coastal road stretch, the federal government’s counterpart fund is around N4.68 trillion.

The federal government, in a bid to hasten the commencement of the project, decided to finance construction of the first 47km in phase 1 of the road project, which runs from Ahmadu Bello Way, Victoria Island to the Lekki Deep Sea port. The contract sum of N1.06 trillion was awarded for this section by FEC to Hitech, and construction is ongoing with unprecedented speed.

Whatever funding FG is providing for this section of the road will come under the FG’s counterpart fund. I must emphasize that this funding model adopted by the Tinubu administration is the best model possible, considering the country’s revenue size. This is a monumental infrastructural project being majorly funded with private finance. This is possible because the coastal road is extremely viable.''

https://pmnewsnigeria.com/2024/05/06/lagos-calabar-coastal-road-leave-the-talk-lets-face-the-business/

Okay oo... 7-8 years for a 700km road primarily through rivers and swamps. May God keep us alive to witness the miracle.

Quintessence44:
Dude, this is a 70% PRIVATELY FUNDED PROJECT.

The FG will add 30%.

The road will be TOLLED, to pay for itself.

Why is this a PROBLEM for you?

The road leads through and opens up the NIGER DELTA to business and tourism.

The same NIGER DELTA that is FEEDING ALL OF YOU.

Y'all need to STFU.

Seriously.

If it's truly going to be privately funded, then it 100% makes sense. But is it?Last time I checked, the govt has reversed itself and is now fully funding the first phase (about 44km or so). Or are we talking of a different project?


And hey hey hey, quit trying to delude yourself or deceive anyone that you're trying to do the niger delta a favour here; quit playing to the gallery with those overused political and ethnic gimmicks. Everyone knows it's a good project IF it's actually built and no one is against it on that basis; however the current debate bothers strictly on prioritisation and the practicality of its realisation. Can Nigeria afford over N15trillion to build the road when the same Nigerian govt claims it lacks funds to complete the East-west road after over 20 years?

For the past 20+ years you've not been able to complete the simple dualisation of the already existing east-west road which traverses the entire niger delta citing lack of funds; it'd cost less than N1trillion to complete that, but the fund isn't available. But miraculously you have the funds to start a brand new road from Lagos? For a road which may take another 20-30years to build, you claim you're doing it for the niger delta but you're starting from Lagos?

NaijaCowFarm:
Ode, 1.63Km bridge and 700 Kiliometer *11 are they the same??
Do you know that from Ondo through Warri to Akwa-Ibom is swamy, so your costal road would likely need about 400KM bridge? WHITE ELEPHANT PROJECT!!!

Tellmeastory:
You do not quantify the cost of a deep water bridge vis-a-vis a regular road based on mere kilometres.

You no go school?

@Tellmeastory, Do you know what a coastal road through the Niger delta swamps would entail?.... That road would have over 100 bridges, most of which would be longer than the 2nd niger bridge. Infact almost half of that 700km would literally be bridges, yet you call that a "regular road"? You really think that's a realistic and practical project right?

Tellmeastory:
True, but the bridge is not even dilapidated!

There is nothing wrong with the bridge.

Someone there just decided a new bridge was what they wanted in the East, and they pressured the FG to build it!

That is exactly my point! There was nothing wrong with the 1st bridge besides that the perennial traffic on it was extreme and unbearable. So it only made sense for the commuters to yearn for a new bridge to ease the pain.

However, IF the 1st bridge was dilapidated or unmotorable, and the govt claims it didnt have the funds to patch the already existing bridge, then what sense would it have made to initiate a brand new bridge under such circumstances?

Another point about the niger bridge was its cost. A simple bridge of less than 2km over a single river was definitely a practical and achievable project. But is the 700km coastal road a practical and achievable project given the financial situation of the country?

The existing roads which run through all coastal states, (i.e. the Lagos-Sagamu-Ore-Benin-Sapele-Warri and the east west road up to Calabar) are all in bad shape and I'm sure 1trillion would completely fix these roads. In the last 20 years, the FG hasnt been able to complete these roads due to fund shortages, but somehow someone thinks its a wise decision to start constructing a brand new parallel road which will costs over N15trillion? Where will the money come from?

Must we play blind follow-follow politics with everything?

Tellmeastory:
Was 2nd Niger Bridge A ''Wasted Venture'' Since You Already Had The 1st Niger Bridge?

I don't recall any complaints about the multi-billion dollar state-of-the-art 2nd Niger Bridge being ''a waste of resources since we already have the 1st Niger Bridge, and there are numerous bad roads in the country that need fixing''.

Or is it one rule for a section of the country and another rule for others?

2nd Niger Bridge (and 1st Niger Bridge to the left)
https://mmo.aiircdn.com/370/634fec13bceef.jpeg

https://cdn.punchng.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/07022614/Second-Niger-Bridge.jpg




1st Niger Bridge
https://i0.wp.com/thefisayo.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Niger-bridge.png

This is common sense; if the 1st niger bridge was dilapidated and barely motorable, and there is acute shortage of funds, the sensible thing to do with the limited funds will be to fix the existing bridge before embarking on a new one.

Lemos14:
Nonsense. That's how you people encourage nonsense and Christian's feel they can still fornicate once in a while and ask God for mercy. The best way to stop an addiction is to stop it and flee any appearance of what will make you fall. Stop encouraging rubbish. This is why our society is like this.

You will relapse when you still play with your triggers of what make you addicted to something

It's either you're genuinely and honestly ignorant of how 'addictions' work, or perhaps you're just trying to be a holier-than-thou judgemental hypocrite (no offense intended please).

If you truly understand the dynamics of addictions, you would realise that it is practically impossible to stop an addiction overnight. What the person you quoted said is the truth; quite often if you try to stop an addiction overnight, you typically relapse into a worse form of the same addiction. Practical therapies against addictions (be it drugs or alcoholism etc) usually employ the method of substitution, i.e. gradually substitute the substance of the addiction with something else which is less harmful, until the addiction dies away.

michlins:
What did he say that is wrong for goodness sake? People who don't understand addiction think you can wake up and it will stop. His solution is the most realistic solution I have heard in a whole while.

He encouraged you to spend more time talking with God and continue with your addiction. He knows what time does to anything in life, with time and fervent dedication to the word of God, you will lose the addiction without knowing it. But trust Nigerians (porn addicts too) and their over righteousness to attack him while struggling with their limitations.

Reminds me when Pope Francis said that when a prostitute decides to use latex condoms with all her clients, that her salvation is near, people went on rampage. Imagine someone who didn't care about her life and safety but decided to take care of it, with time, she would understand that condoms aren't enough and eventually stop such lifestyle too

I totally agree with you on this one! The solution given by Damina sound like the most practical and realistic solution I've ever heard, not just for porn, but for any type of addiction. Those criticising him are simply being ignorant and hypocritical. Of course a lot of self professed Christians in Nigeria are nothing but just judgemental hypocrites like the pharisees of old. If you check very well, 9 out of 10 of the loudest critics are closet wankers.

It is practically IMPOSSIBLE to stop an addiction overnight. Be it porn or cocaine or any drug whatsoever. The most practical way to stop an addiction is by gradually replacing it with something else which is less harmful.

Slytiger:
Victim mentality.



The Oniru family that have multiple properties affected are not crying. Bola Ariyo (owner of Mami Beach) is not crying. It's only them shouting igbophobia that are crying.

It's actually sad and pathetic that a lot of people defending this project (and even a large number opposed to it) are incapable of seeing the bigger picture. The disaster that this project represents has absolutely nothing to do with Landmark; it's quite sad how everyone keeps talking of Landmark! Landmark! Landmark!; which happens to just be 1 out of hundreds of massive economic assets that would be destroyed because of this 1 road that definitely would never be completed.

It's bad enough that political sentiments have hindered all chances of Nigerians ever having an objective discussion about the project, but now making it about Landmark and tribe further buries every chance of ever having meaningful debates.

Landmark aside, tribe aside and political sentiments aside, my take on the project is that it's an absolutely misplaced priority! The urgency to execute the project without wide consultations also stinks of sinister motives (smells like a conduit pipe to steal massive funds).

Yes Nigeria needs roads and the coastal road sounds like a brilliant idea, but when economic factors and current realities are sincerely considered, a brand new coastal road should definitely not be a priority at a time when literally all existing trunk roads are in disrepair.

The basic dualisation of an already existing east-west road hasn't been completed after 25 years, Lagos-Benin road is still in a sorry state, Benin-Auchi-Okene-Lokoja road dualisation is still very far from completion and a death trap even after 20 years, the list is endless; but someone thinks it's a wise decision to start building a brand new road from Lagos through the Niger Delta swamps up to Calabar?

In terms of scale and complexity, the coastal road is literally like constructing an almost 700 km long bridge through swamps and rivers. How exactly can Nigeria possibly finance such a project? or perhaps it would take another 30 - 50 years to complete?

The ICC should understand that some people are above the law.

Thormentor:
You talk too much Young man! even former president photographer hinted that photographers get better with time he called for patience for this guy to improve ya here talking rubbish that he knows what he's doing

Baba is still learning stop defending rubbish


someone who knows better told us to be patient Which confirms that he did a bad job

APC right back continue defending

Thormentor:
I'm not photographer at least garri never damage my eye not to spot the differences here.


The object at FRONT in all the pictures you posted were on focus and the BACKGROUND blurred


the one Tinubu photographer took the image in front was blurred the background was on focus

I'm not an apc person and have never been a tinubu fan. I only made a common sensical comment on the picture that it definitely wasn't a mistake but rather a photography concept where the focus was on the coat of arms behinds (there's something photographers call it, somethng about 'depth', I cant remember). I also showed you similar examples depicting the same concept, but it seems you're only wired to think and argue apc vs. pdp, so there's really no point continuing with this conversation......

You win!! The photographer is dumb and wack!

emmy512:
Looking at both photos I deduce that he was trying to pass a message.

One photo had tinubu out of focus and the coat of arms on focus.

The other photo did the opposite with tinubu on focus and the COA out of focus.

Yall should stop saying he can't snap just because of that.

If you understand photography you'll know that's what he intended or else why will he process and post it?

Any person with even the most basic level of intelligence can easily tell that the effect in that picture is a deliberate photography concept. But then, is common sense really common?

Lemos14:
Oga shut up. You guys are outright pathetic in explaining rubbish. Again there is no art in blurring out the main subject of the picture. If you're not a professional photographer that os the the more you should be quiet and stop trying to spin narratives. Pathetic lots.

If it were obi in that picture we know how you vultures will come and start spilling rubbish but you want to whitewash the picture because you support a criminal.

This is just too dumb for my liking. Its a waste of time engaging on a topic like this with someone in ur IQ level who cant separate a simple photography concept from useless politics of obi vs tinubu.

Thormentor:
There's nothing you people cannot defend

Well done Apc Right Back

So because I said the blurring of the man's face and focusing on the coat of arms is a photography concept, it automatically means "I am APC and I'm defending a random photographer that I dont even know"? Kaiii... what kind of reasoning is this?

Are some of you guys even capable of articulating any other topics besides the nonsensical 'we vs they' politics?

I'm guessing in your wisdom and understanding, the person who took the following photos was also a dumb amateur photographer because Osinbajo's face was blurry?

Sometimes I cant help but wonder how old some of you on this forum are.

Cc: Lemos14

Lemos14:
There is no art oga. The focus of the picture is not meant to be blurred for any reason. Is it the coat of arms that is occupying presidential seat? Please stop this nonsense shalaye you're not making sense.

Lol... revert back to my original post. That you think that that picture is a mistake is pure and undisputed evidence that you're clueless in the art of photography.

Thormentor:
unless you are being sarcastic. this statement is an own goal

Haha... No it wasnt sarcasm, I'll repeat it boldly, I'M NOT A PHOTOGRAPHER, but I dont have to be one to understand the concept and the art behind that picture. The blurring of his face and focusing on the coat of arms is obviously intentional; if you think it was a mistake, then the joke is actually on you.

Thormentor:
what's this na? Baba deserve better abeg

I'm not a photographer, but I can tell with a blink that the people criticising this particular photo are clueless on what photography is about.

In summary, there's absolutely nothing wrong with this picture; the intended effect was nicely achieved.

Tellmeastory:
Hebrew = Igbo

The Hebrew word for "son" is ben; plural is bānim.

In Hebrew you say ‘Josh Ben Kasper’ to mean ‘Josh, son of Kasper’

In Igbo the same is done, usually in the village where everyone knows each other.

So if you are referring to a guy in your village named Kelechi Okafor, you would say ‘Kelechi BEH Okafor’, meaning “Kelechi Of The House Of Okafor”,

And then the PLURAL of the Hebrew word, Ben, as stated above, is ‘bānim’.

In Igbo that of course translates to the same word, BANYIN.. meaning “Our common home”.

It’s incredible.

Igbo is Igbo! Hebrew is Hebrew!!

Can we stop all this 'attachee by fire by force' already; it's just ridiculous and speaks less of us as a people.

In my view, it reeks of inferiority complex when a person or group, repeatedly tries to 'famz' or 'claim relationship' with another person or a more popular group, most especially when the other group never acknowledges this acclaimed connection. I see absolutely no necessity, no relevance and no benefits in this Igbo = Jew concept; it only brings ridicule.

What an unfortunate event.... I think this reaction of the pastor was driven by the recent media backlash that followed the case of the woman that gave a fake/unverifiable testimony in this church... Instead of Nigerians to blast the sharer of the fake testimony, they rather blasted the pastor. Now oga pastor is trying to be careful.

Truths9ja:
Tantalizers, Chicken Republic, Mega chicken , Yakoyo, Bukateria, Sweet Sensation, Tastee Fried Chicken, Mr Biggs, Chicken Republic etcetera are all founded and own by Yorubas.
The food chain in Nigeria is actually controlled by the Yorubas.

Lol... Yorubas now want to start acting like Igbos

abc115:
Price War: Ethiopian Airlines on Lagos -London Route now Cheaper than Air Peace

Wonderful!!! 😁😁😄

Nigerians have really been in bondage for a long time. I wish Air Peace would add at least another flight daily and I wish Arik would return to this route.

This doesnt sound like a reasonable idea...