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So many foolish people roaming Nigerian streets.... There were several news reports from several renown Nigeria media houses on the 114% salary increase of political office holders.. Peter OBI was simply reacting to what was reported in the news. But obviously, you cant expect fools to notice that... They wouldn't question the media houses that reported the news, na only Peter OBI dem know!



And by the way, how's this even fake news? The RMAFC (an agency of the FG) indeed approved a 114% salary increase for the president and other political office holders. If Tinubu (after witnessing the public condemnation) decides not to give his approval, how does that make it fake news that a 114% hike was approved?

Christistruth03:
Do you Know that Peter Obi marginalized non Indigenes to the extent that they couldn't stand for ordinary Market association chairman in Anambra?

https://tribuneonlineng.com/marginalisation-non-indigenes-threaten-boycott-anambra-election/

Kindly remind me please... What brought Peter OBI or Anambra into this conversation?

Or is this just another OBI obsession?

Christistruth03:
Did you say Hypocrisy ?

This is Hypocrisy !!!

Bad behaviour is bad behaviour... I'm not defending anyone

Christistruth03:
Tell Gbadebo Rhodes to speak Yoruba for just 5 minutes

Both US and Nigeria recognizes dual Citizenship

I'm not arguing about citizenship with you... I was just calling out the stinking hypocrisy of discriminating who can and cannot rule Lagos.

LegendHero:
The actual wrong-doing is accusing a full blooded Yoruba man that he can’t rule his own because he is an American citizen? Do you guys think before talking?

By the way, the fullish man Peter Obi could not provide 247 power supply nor security in Anambla. If he had done that, he won’t be looking for stolen mandate everywhere, ya’ll would have just relocated to the paradise he built.

But you people also swore that the other Yoruba man can't rule Lagos cos he's married to an Igbo woman?

senatordave1:
Is this you conceding that obi has lost?

..through fraudulent means...

Let me help you complete that statement again.

senatordave1:
Yet still no proof

There's an adage that says "after a robbery operation, if you see anyone celebrating, just know they are the relatives and friends of the robbers". Oga Dave, no need arguing with you cos we already understand this third world political drill. Enjoy your loot!! ...and if God wills it, una go vomit am!

senatordave1:
Truth is tinubu won

..through fraudulent means... and that's why the case is in court.

djseanjohn77:
I am sure you were neither born or were a toddler in 1999, to know that Tinubu was the only state that fought PDP and Obj for this.

Oh ye ancestor! How does that invalidate the fact that OBI promised the same thing repeatedly during the campaigns?

thisisit:
STATE POLICE IS THE WAY FORWARD.

State policing sounds like the way forward for Nigeria, but it doesnt come without its risks. Just imagine someone like Wike being in total control of the police...

Another OBI campaign promise about to be implemented.

senatordave1:
She said it's possible that there was network issue

Where did she say that?

senatordave1:
She herself confirmed it is not conclusive and that it could have been from inec servers

Where did she say that?

senatordave1:
The proof you brought is not conclusive according to you.your proof must be without doubt

Where did you dig that from in my comment? I never mentioned anywhere that it isn't conclusive - You did!

If I provide conclusive evidence to support an argument and you claim my evidence isn't conclusive, you should be able to point out to me and the world why you think my evidence isn't conclusive.

senatordave1:
No,you sue the person who was issued to.waec will only be subpoenaed

I provide you evidence for an argument from a known source. You claim the source is fake. In this scenario, the onus is on you to prove that the evidence is fake.

senatordave1:
Only waec can attedts to it's authenticity

If you doubt the authenticity of a result posted by WAEC on its own website, then the onus is on you to go and sue WAEC to prove the authenticity.

Tareq1105:
Rather you should be the one to check your brain.

Those talking of federal character is bcoz they felt that the rigging or non compliance, if any at all, shouldn't be localized for someone who claimed he won in 36 states and FCT. They expect the rigging to be everywhere and witnesses should be from everywhere (federal character).

So if my brother witnesses the robbery of my shop in Maiduguri, he's not permitted to be a witness in the case because in line with federal character and equitable representation, I am bound to bring an indigene of Borno state only as my witness? ...and if I can't find an indigene of Borno state who's willing to testify, I shouldn't fight the case in court?

Indeed there are plenty dumb folks roaming about this forum.

sangresan:
Can a so-called employee represent WAEC without official permission?

Can a policeman present a police report without IG approval?

All these people no dey reason.

If WAEC publicly posts my results online, I don't believe I need to be a staff of INEC and neither do I need WAEC's official permission to make references to my results which they already made available publicly on their website.

WorldRichest:
You no dey read ni?

Can't you see from the report that the lazy youth was rubbished ni? She confirmed that she is a member of Labour Party and she sued INEC in the past. How can then be taken seriously? She also confirmed that AWS did not send her to come and represent them, so she is not in an official position to speak on the subject.

AWS will not come to give evidence against the President of the most populous black nation on earth because AWS is not owned by an idiot.

Several people on this thread keep saying she's a member of LP!!! she's a member of LP!!! so if she's a member of LP and so what? She claims she provided evidence from a publicly available information repository to support an argument that there was no network glitch on the INEC server on election day. The sensible argument here should be on the veracity of the information she provided, not whether she's OBI's daughter or whatever.

SwissMass:
What da hell is going on , the embittered labour party member had issues with INEC because her name wasn't published to contest election, imagine she came not on behalf of Amazon but on behalf of Peter Obi

Hmm... Is AMAZON a party to the suit? Why would anyone expect a witness brought by OBI/LP to be in court on behalf of Amazon and not OBI/LP?

Too many dumb people in Nigeria. Someone is producing witnesses in court, some humans with brains in their heads are asking for federal character in the tribe of the witnesses.

SangoOlukosoOba:
It’s wastage! Starvation is killing people all over the world, and those funds can be channeled to those regions and nations

Not wasting money on what will never materialize.

How many people have you fed with your own money that you think you have the right to tell someone else what to do with theirs?

SangoOlukosoOba:
Lawyers must eat!

Peter and Atiku should continue enriching lawyers, it’s their season.

A renowned SAN attending the tribunal just acquired a 6 bedroom all ensuit duplex in Dubai of recent, I knew the tribunal was paying off cos I know his financial standing few months ago.

Lawyers will give you false hopes for their own benefits. None will make heaven

Is it your money?

Why are you so concerned about how your 'enemies' spend their own money?

Shantyken:
Let AWS person go beyond to proof that to us abeg

They already provided the evidence to the court. Amazon Web Service are the ones managing the INEC cloud database. It's very easy for them to provide a datalog that proves that the INEC database did not go down at any time on the 25th of Feb.

nairalanda1:
That may be, but it still does not invalidate my argument about the bad internet we have overall.

Oga, once again, you are arguing based on thw idea that i am defending corrupt government. I am.just pointing out one of the reasons why the bvas may have not worked and i even had the idea that there would be glitches before the election

So at the end, we arw just talking two different things.



But on elections, we can never have free and fair elections in this country until people stop seeing themselves as victims. Politicans inclusive. I know why i say.this.

Evening

To summarise what I said before, the non-upload of the presidential result had absolutely nothing to do with Nigeria's bad internet!!!.

By the way, I have no clue what you meant by that last statement; what has election rigging got to do with people being victims?

nairalanda1:
Sadly it does not change the fact that the BVAS was affected by our bad internet service.

Oga , i am.not excusing bad leadership and oir corrupt electoral system.

At the end, hopefully, our internet will improve


Thanks and good night. Reality is not always our friend.

And yes, i do not support any of the parties.

Internet connectivity didnt affect anything! THe refusal to upload the presidential results were deliberate (orders from above); anyone (even the blind) could see that clearly.

I can go pull up some old circulating videos where voters battled election officals to upload the results; the officials bluntly refused citing 'bad network' as the problem. In some cases, voters even offered to hotspot internet from their phones, but the officials refused claiming the problem was from the INEC server and not the internet connection in the area. Some other officials claimed their ogas didnt provide a specific pass code which they claimed was required to securely upload the presidential results. In some units, after the mob pressure from the voters, 'network' miraculously appeared and the officials were forced to upload. Now an AWS official has just prrovided evidence that there was nothing wrong with the health status of the INEC cloud services on that election day; this already rules out the foolish lie by INEC officials that their network was down.

Even a blind person or a child could easily tell that the selective refusal to upload just the presidential results was deliberate. But then, we're in Nigeria, a shithole African country, so even if all the evidence in the world is provided to the court, I dont still trust the already compromised courts to do anything right.

nairalanda1:
What other network exists.?

INEC does not have any special internet network...they use what is on ground. And beyond our cities, internet is bad, very bad.

(I've even tried it, if I am on a long journey as a passenger, after passing a certain limit, I cannot browse on my android).

BVAS was not going to work very well. Anyway, as time goes on....

Of course! Internet is bad all over Nigeria; that's why the INEC officials used USA and UK internet connections to upload the NASS results, but the UK and USA connections selectively failed when it got the presidential results.

Very typical imbecilic excuse you hear from shameless African public officials; another recent example was how someone claimed a strange python swallowed millions and how monkeys snatched public funds. If nobody could be prosecuted for those, why should anyone expect INEC to come up with a sensible defense?

Last last, body no be firewood... for 8 months a man doesn't as little as touch his woman; things like this give room for irresistable temptations.... If you check very well, 90% of the people judging this woman harshy are chronic fornicators and adulterers.... What a bleedy hypocritical country we have!

rippa:
The attack against the igbos is very real now and this forum have been activated to champion it.
You dare not go against Tinubu or APC otherwise you be tag an igbo person.
Anybody that speaks against Tinubu, whether u support Obi, Atiku or any other candidate, you are automatically an Obi supporters and an igbo person.
Anybody that support Obi regardless of where you come from whether igbo, Yoruba, hausa or the SS, you are automatically called an igbo person by these same sets of people.
For Seun and his bias mods to be seeing all these selective target on the igbo tribe and allowing it, then this forum have been activated for that purpose.
I can't even make a comment here without being called an igbo man

If you cant take the heat, perhaps you need to leave the kitchen. Tinubu and Obi supporters have been throwing gbas gbos at each other for over the year now, so what's the cry for?

You cant deny the fact that while OBI has supporters from all tribes and regions, he also has a pretty large followership amongst Igbos; similarly, Tinubu has a large followership amongst Yorubas. With these statistics in mind, there's nothing unusual if an anonymous online OBI supporter is erroneously assumed to be Igbo; likewise if an anonymous Tinubu supporter is automatically assumed to be Yoruba. So please calm down on the 'victim mentality' cos nobody holy pass.

Temiwands:
They were wrong to name it South South, it doesn't exist on cardinal points.

It's a GEO-POLITICAL zone, not just a mere geographical location.

No country is shaped like a perfect circle that you can divide into perfect cardinal points. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the term 'South-south'; likewise there's nothing wrong or unusual about the terms north-central, mid-west, south central, etc.. These are not meant to represent mere compass points.

BATified23:
Popular Obi's influencer @firstladyship (Nefertiti) could be seen defending Obi's inability to provide a Manifesto claiming it is unnecessary (See attached images and date).

The same Manifesto she's claiming Tinubu copied and is implementing.

Note: Tinubu released his manifesto draft on October 12, 2022. Proof: https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/559290-2023-apc-approves-tinubus-manifesto-to-consult-buhari-on-campaign-commencement-date.html

While Peter Obi released his manifesto on December 4, 2022.

The big question is did Tinubu go into the future to copy Obi's Manifesto?

OBI's manifesto was SPOKEN! ..... All Nigerians heard OBI's manifesto directly from his own mouth; he openly expressed his plans in numerous interviews and speeches, unlike some others who couldnt speak publicly and who just hired people to author a document of which they have no clue of its contents.

Thank God Buhari is out of power, else this report would have been of the military apologising and compensating terrorists for daring to attack them...