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EnemyofGod2:
“If You Ever Get Paid For Rendering Service In The Church, You'll Never Come Out Of Poverty In This Life” — Pastor Ibiyeomie Warns Drummers, Others

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While I find it weird that church instrumentalists or choir members would demand to be paid salaries, I totally don't believe that receiving payment as an instumentalist in church can or will make anyone poor. This is pure BS!

While I find it weird that church instrumentalists or choir members would demand to be paid salaries, I totally don't believe that receiving payment as an instumentalist in church can or will make anyone poor. That's BS!

Exousiang01:
LoL this defence go hard you ohhh.
This one na bone for your throat.
Una don hook.

Tochj:
Being Gay is worse than Tinubu daughter stealing the little old women have in the name of iyaloja
but you can do anything to relocate to uk or Canada practicing gay

Tinubu also has an LGBTQ daughter abroad; but obviously that one doesnt matter for some weird reason.

The irony of all this is that those saying they cant vote OBI because he has a gay son abroad aren't bothered about voting a Tinubu who equally has an LGBTQ daughter.

Reason for this weird pattern is simple; Tinubu already has so much dirt on him already that his daughter being whoever she is is inconsequential. But for OBI, even after elections, there's still a desperation to find dirt on him.

sukkot:
Listen the LORD works in mysterious ways and one of the ways he tries to bless you is by making one person lose their money ( some form of punishment) and then he would make you find it.

However you finding can be a test and a blessing. If it’s just a bag with money in it and nothing else then it’s a blessing. But if someone’s particulars and address and phone number is in it then it is a test. However you are not expected to be a thief and neither are you expected to be stupid either. There are many greedy people in this world who you will find say for example their 10 million Naira and when you return it they will only give you 1000 Naira as reward.

So do not be stupid. What you do is this, you call the person, hypothetically speaking let’s say it’s 100 million Naira, you call the person and say listen I found your money and I can either disappear now and you end up with zero, or you can let me have 20 million as reward and I will drop 80 million. Think about what you will like to do and I will call back. Of course unless it’s a mad person, he would rather have 80 million than zero and he has no choice but to agree. This way you negotiated yourself a nice blessing out of the money you found. No karma and no spiritual repercussions.

But make sure when you want to drop the money off after you have removed your 20 million, you don’t meet the guy in person . Agree for a place for him to pick it up. Say an upscale gyms locker room and tell him the exact time to come and where to get the key of the locker then you hide somewhere and watch to make sure he comes pick up his money.

See how you devised a strategy to kidnap someone else's money for ransom... Criminality being disguised as wisdom!

Wine (or beer or spirit) makes the heart merry!

In the right quantity, a good drink gets me excited, bubbly and I become a more interesting and cheerful person to be around. It also helps me think and strategise better, and lest I forget, it improves confidence.

In summary, good wine helps to awaken a better version of myself.



Obviously, all of the above wouldnt work for everyone. For some others, wine gives them a shitty and depressing feeling. So it's different strokes for different folks!

LagBlogger:
Cost of living plus family responsibilities will make your 400k per month feel like 30k per month.

I don't know what your plans are but if you can find a way to reduce house rent and school fees cost you might be able to save something.

My wife had a friend whose husband was on 60k per month salary in 2015, somehow he managed to save and buy land, started doing uber part time then later resigned his job and faced Uber fully and was able to save to build the house they are living in now.

He moved to Canada in 2022 and she joined him last year with their daughter.

I think their game plan was to set a target e.g buy land, build house, travel abroad, start side hustle and save as if their life depends on it to achieve that target.

Try and set goals then work on those goals as if your life depends on achieving it. It may work, it may not. Just my 2 cents.

In what kind of world does someone who earns N60k monthly buy a land and build a house? A married man at that... Even if he saves 50% of his salary, how do you build a house with N60k salary?

whyteteeth:
My ever charming mom has stopped looking good like she used to eversince she joined a particular church in the early part of 2021.

Prior to that time, mom was a lover of good wears. She used to wear nice jewelries to complement her dressing. Nowadays, the story is no longer the same. She has changed completely and she is now a shadow of her former self. She would not make her hair with weavon or attachment, or wear wig or makeup like she used to do. She now uses thread to plait her hair which makes her look very unlike her and very unattractive.

When I travelled home during Christmas, I nearly wept when I saw her. From her head to her toe, she was completely off. No sense of style at all. Just regular clothes and slippers even when she is going out for an event.

What do we do? The church she joined is THE LORD'S CHOSEN. And dad says she has asked her to stop attending the church but she refused. Mom is a retired nurse and she is 62 years old. I am her last child and I and my siblings are doing everything possible to make her look good. Money is not the problem. She is just simply refused to listen to anybody.

LORD'S CHOSEN?!!! Forget abourrit! 🤣😅

Ibrahimcoomasie:
But news had been debunked that the syringe company did not leave.

He should also lament on GSK leaving Kenya too.

What's Peter Obi's business with Kenya? What's your business with Kenya? So if GSK leaves Kenya cos of its bad business environment, that automatically makes it perfectly fine for GSK to also leave Nigeria for its bad business environment? What kind of reasoning is this?

Only an 'act of God' can stop Tinubu from being president beyond 2027 and even beyond 2031.

Quintessence44:
MANY COUNTRIES IN EUROPE, AFRICA AND ASIA, STILL USE NARROW GAUGE TODAY.

IGNORAMUS.

You must be a pathetic dunce to dare insult me after regurgitating such nonsense. So because some narrow gauge rails largely from the pre-1900 era are still being used in some parts of Europe, then that automatically is an economic and business justification for Nigeria to be constructing new narrow gauge rails in 2024? Did you ask yourself what purpose those countries use those narrow gauge rails for? Or you just want to advertise your ignorance publicly because you feel a compulsion to defend anything the government does?

You must think those countries that succesfully phased out their narrow gauge rails and replaced them with standard gauge rails are foolish for doing so.

Cantonese:
Certainly the level of giving is dictated by what one has in his pocket/purse/account. Our economy is a great decider of the level of our spending or giving. That's easily verifiable.

Again, I am bold to say that Nigerians are among the biggest and confident people in the world. Infact in the eighties, there were two groups of people well respected in the UK for their abilities to give or spend...the Arabs and Nigerians.

My point has been that churches are populated by people. Again, the financial abilities of the churches defer. Added to that is that there certainly is a gulf in the financial abilities of churches in both countries. However, giving is of the mind. Again is the fact that churches are able to give on the basis of their income, basically donated by people.

So for me, whether they are "oyibo churches" or Nigerian churches, they generally have their legitimate sources of income, through which they are able to render such charity works. Those sources or income are centered on the people, who are either members of the church or others interested in helping the church financially.

OP got me agitated when he seemed to look down on churches in Nigeria.

A person doesnt need to have a million dollars before they give. Likewise, a person doesnt need to give millions before a perceptive person can tell their level of generosity. A person's generosity isn't measured just by the fiscal amount they give, rather it's measured by how much they are willing to give in relation to their worth.

You seem to be trying to paint a picture that Nigerian churches are poor, are you for real? Nigerian churches that are listed as one of the richest religious organisations in the world? ...

Can't even believe this is up for argument, it's general knowledge that most foreign churches and Christian ministries are far more generous and charitable than the Nigerian counterparts. And NO this has nothing to do with the financial strength of the churches; it's more about the willingness to give.

TYCO77:
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As the name suggests, the narrow-gauge railway is essentially distinguished by a smaller gauge width of just 750 mm. This gives it a number of advantages over railways with normal gauges (1435 mm). The narrower gauge enables tighter curves to be taken, especially in valleys and in generally difficult terrain.

I'm sorry but building narrow gauge rails in this age and era is next to nonsense. I also hear it's a single rail line, i.e. trains can move in only one direction per time.

Goodvibes007:
China Civil Engineering Construction Corporation (CCECC) says it has completed the laying of tracks on the Port Harcourt to Aba section of the eastern narrow gauge railway.

In a post published on X, John Zhao, an official of CCECC, announced the completion of the Port Harcourt to Aba rail line.

“New year, new progress! The track laying from Port Harcourt to Aba on the Nigeria Eastern Narrow-Gauge Railway project has been completed by #CCECC,” Zhao wrote.

The announcement of the completion of the tracks was published on the CCECC’s official website on December 29, 2023.

Recently, Fidet Okhiria, the managing director of the Nigerian Railway Corporation (NRC), said track laying from Port Harcourt to Aba rail section would be ready in 15 days.

In March 2021, former President Muhammed Buhari flagged off the $3.2 billion Port Harcourt to Maiduguri narrow gauge railway reconstruction project.

Rotimi Amaechi, the former minister of transportation, said the Port Harcourt to Maiduguri rail line would connect Rivers, Abia, Imo, Enugu, Ebonyi, Anambra, Benue, Nasarawa, Plateau, Kaduna, Bauchi, Gombe, Yobe and Borno states by rail.

In April 2023, the federal government announced the commencement of the reconstruction of the eastern rail line.

The federal government had said the Port Harcourt-Enugu section was the first target in the project.

In September 2023, the federal government bemoaned the slow pace of the reconstruction.

The reconstruction of the eastern rail line as a narrow gauge rail had elicited mixed reactions, with some stakeholders arguing that the rail should have been a standard gauge.

https://www.thecable.ng/ccecc-weve-completed-laying-of-tracks-on-port-harcourt-to-aba-rail-line/amp

Who lays narrow gauge rail lines in this age?

Cantonese:
See, when some talk about churches, they do not seem to realize that churches are populated by people. The guy talk about the church and not the people.

The Nigerian economy cannot in anyway be compared with the economies of the top countries. However that does not make Nigerians less givers than citizens of other countries. If our currency is at par with their, our giving will definitely match and surpass theirs. Let’s not abuse ours. In the face of our poor economy, Nigerians are among the biggest givers in the world.

Nigerians are generous no doubt, but I wouldn't know about Nigerians being one of the best givers in the world.

Regarding the subject, we're referring to Nigerian churches, not necessarily Nigerian individuals; the focus here is on the level of charity giving by Nigerian churches compared with non-Nigerian (mainly white populated) churches. Just to clarify something, the level of charity giving has absolutely nothing to do with the economy of the country.

I live in the UK and have attended numerous 'oyibo' and Nigerian churches. I belong to a Nigerian church family that does a decent level of charity giving to the community every single week. But I wouldn't see 'black' and call it 'white' for the sake of patriotism.... Truth is that in general, there's absolutely no ground for comparison between the level of charity giving by oyibo churches vs. Nigerian churches. The report is also similar from several friends and family in Canada. It's also ironic that in these oyibo churches, they rarely even call for members to give, as opposed to how things are in Nigerian churches abroad.

Cantonese:
Oga reason with sense.

Money is given by people. The church is made of people like you. The church in UK your OP talked about is made up of Nigerians like you and him, who gave the money. Do not be myopic like him. People gave in the church and the money was given to those who needed it to help them enjoy their Christmas.

If your church did not do the same, then there must be similar people like you who do not give, but only expect to receive. That must you congregate with stingy people like you.

Na so e be.

You seem to be triggered by what the Timi guy said... He never said the money used for the gifts wasn't donated by humans; I wonder where you got that assumption from. Also, no one is saying some Nigerian churches don't give, but you can never compare the level of giving of Nigerian churches to some of these foreign ministries. The key point he made which is general knowledge is that Nigerian churches can do better at giving back to the poor.

Usmanovic95:
One of the standard for measuring economic growth and development is cost of living.In nigeria petrol is an essential product . And please give examples of foreign countries where petrol is expensive and don't forget to quote the price of a litre and minimum wage an average worker is been paid.

In response to your question, a good example of a working economy where petrol is expensive is the UK where a litre currently sells for about £1.50 (that's over N2000/litre under the current exchange rate). Regarding the UK minimum wages, I'm glad you brought that up cos it nicely buttresses my earlier point that economic improvement doesn't always have to mean 'cheap petrol'. If the economy improves, household income increases, more people get out of unemployment and more people would be able to afford petrol at even N2000/litre.

Nigeria's exchange rate crisis in the last 8 years has primarily been fuelled by the forex scarcity. While we may agree the crisis has been aggravated by poor leadership, a fact remains that for an import dependent country, Nigeria critically lacks forex. It's also on record that petroleum product importation gulps over 40% of Nigeria's forex.

The Dangote refinery has the capacity to end Nigeria's petroleum product importation. At 100% capacity, the refinery would also produce surplus refined products turning Nigeria to a net exporter of petrol. In addition to saving 40% of its forex, there would also be increased forex inflows from the export of refined products, as opposed to raw crude. Anyhow you look at it, the economic impact of a fully functioning Dangote refinery would be tremendous, regardless of whether Dangote sells at N200 or N1000.

In summary, my worry isn't whether Dangote would sell petrol at N600 or N800, or whether he should crash prices; rather my worry is whether the demonic forces perpetually holding Nigeria down would PERMIT the Dangote refinery to work.

MadamExcellency:
It is a lie. This is simply Islamic conquest. You heard me right. Stop being myopic.

You're actually the one just being simple-minded!

Firstly, contrary to general opinion, I dont believe the Fulani herdsmen crisis genuinely has anything to do with religion. Those guys only whip up religion as a mind control tool to deceive and subdue northern minorities (and even majorities). The Fulani crisis is purely an ethnic problem where the Fulanis are desperate to grab land, especially in arable green areas.

Meanwhile my earlier comment about climate change being a factor is valid. Climate change and the desertification in the Sahara appear to be one of the factors forcing the herders downsouth in search of greener lands.

Odod0:
This is ridiculous! So According to Aljazeera, climate change is reason for the massacre of Christians by Islamists in Nigeria. Chisos!! . Those that paid Aljazera to write this, may what befell those victims befall them and their households...

Climate change is likely one of the contributing factors fuelling the fulani crisis in the middle belt. Before running to criticise or drop curses, we should first ask the what the relationship is.

Climate change and the consequent desertification in the Sahara is a notable factor forcing the Fulani herders downsouth in search of greener lands.

Usmanovic95:
Dangote is the largest producer of cement in Africa but the cement is still expensive here. Why do you believe all of a sudden that his refinery will be the game changer?

Economic improvement doesnt always have to mean 'cheap petrol'. In those foreign countries our people japa to, petrol isn't cheap, but we all agree their economies are better than ours.

Omooooo!

The only thing I can say is that "You get mind!"

After using shovels and a tractor to push out a plane that crashlanded in a swamp, you still had the courage to jump on the same plane for another 3 hrs flight because the pilot said only one engine was bad?.....

Omo una get strong mind!

sorepco:
U say its false but ur facts support what he said...

The point @pedel made is that the net pay of a person earning £50k or £51k annually will always be higher than the net pay of a person earning £49k. So in essence, the assumption made by the Op of this thread is false.

DeOTR:
I would rather stay in Nigeria and earn £2500 monthly, than relocate to the UK to start earning £7k/month.

Obviously! a £2500 income would give you a better life in Nigeria than elsewhere. But my point was mainly focused on the topic of the thread. If the main reason you rejected the UK offer was based on the assumption that "a person who earns more would go home with less income than a person who earned less", then that would have been a flawed assumption.

DeOTR:
I rejected an offer which came with relocation to the UK sometime last year for this reason.

If this is truly the reason a person rejected an offer, then 'sorry' is their name cos their decision was built on misinformation and ignorance. There's no way a person who earns more would go home with less income than a person who earns less.

Nice2023:
If you earn form 50k pounds downwards you pay only 20% tax

If you earn from 51k pounds to 125k pounds you pay 40% tax.

So you rather remain at 49k than accept 50/60k pounds salary.

False!

I saw this post somewhere on Instagram and couldnt help but shake my head at the misinformation and how fast it was being spread and swallowed.

Yes there are tax bands, and you pay higher tax percentages if you earn more. But there's not a single case where your 'net pay' becomes less when you receive a salary increase.

The monthly net pay of a person earning £50,000/annum would definitely be more than the net pay of a person earning £49,000; the monthly net pay difference should roughly be about ~£50 monthly.

Religion has really wasted African brains for too long!

Terrorist have been murdering Israeli men, women and children in cold blood but those ones didnt drop dead? Milllions have been threatening and speaking bad against israel for ages and nothing happened to them. Even the NAZIs that murdered 6 million Jews but Germans still exist today and are still world powers. And then a single Turkish man gets a cardiac arrest and people blindly think it is God's punishment for insulting Israel? Kaiii!

JASONjnr:
I am beginning to like Oshiomole.....


I think as Obididient, we stand for clarity and openness.


Oshiomole is Obididient to his duties as a Nigerian senator..... No hate!

I think Oshiomole functions better as an activist and people's advocate. He was never meant to be in the executive arm. Same goes for Festus Keyamo who functioned better as a government critic and people's advocate but became a scum once he got to an executive seat.

dododawa1:
Minister of Solid Minerals Development, Dele Alake, has exposed those behind the series of bandit attacks in some parts of the country.

According to him, banditry and kidnappings associated with parts of the country were being sponsored by powerful Nigerians engaged in acts of illegal mining in the country.

Alake disclosed this on Tuesday when he appeared before the House of Representatives Committee on Solid Minerals to defend the Ministry’s 2024 budget estimate.

The minister said those he described as “heavy and powerful Nigerians” were actually the ones behind the insecurity in areas of the country with solid mineral deposits.

He said the government was identifying those individuals and will take appropriate action against them as part of efforts to ensure that the areas are secured for investors who have shown interest in investing in the solid minerals sector in the country.

He said: “One discovery that we have made is that a lot of these insecurities and banditry associated with this sector are sponsored by illegal miners.

“These are not your artisan miners. They are not the people who pick gold on the ground. These are heavy and powerful individuals in our country. They are Nigerians and not foreigners.

Nothing surprising about this revelation.... The people we've come to know as bandits in the northwest started their craft as foot soldiers of very powerful gold mining cartels in Zamfara.

As is usually the case, when cartel bosses fail to treat the soldiers right, there'd be heavily armed breakaway factions.

Forget respect and forget the billionaire wife toga... Take a second look at that woman! Chinyere Wilfred from her antecedents go fit drive even Ned Nwoko comot anywhere.

These complaints mean absolutely nothing! If the February 25th election is repeated today, 99.9% of those who voted APC will still vote him again.

And then for those saying they'd vote Tinubu out in 4 years if he messes up, I laugh!.... Tinubu is a master of state capture... Tinubu isnt Buhari who felt a need to prove to cynics that he was a repented democrat. With the mess they've turned INEC and the courts to, it'd take only an ultimate call of nature to remove Tinubu from power (we could be talking, 3-4 terms)...

The culprits who murdered the Deborah Samuel lady have since been released and the case against them thrown out. But a lady who shared a video of the killing for awareness is in jail for 18 months?

Nigeria! Wow!