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ThinkAkwaIbom:
I've watched with utmost disbelief how one Okwuluora has mobilized unspeakable hate against Ibom Air, West Africa's only and most successful subnational Airline Brand.

According to him, there was a technical issue and their flight could not leave Enugu for Lagos. It is enough to rant, but mobilizing hate and calling for the end of the airline is wickedness and tribal witchcraftcy.

When people said the Igbos approached the 2023 elections with bigotry and bitterness, I defended them because I have a few of them as friends. What I have seen since last night by Igbo influencers is bigotry and bitterness.

There is no airline, Global and Local company that has not had cause to delay flights because of Technical glitches. From Emirates to Air France.

It is sad that the Igbos have subtly decided to attempt to demarket Ibom Air owned by a neighboring Akwa Ibom in a bid to promote an airline owned by one of them.

Today, Igbos are the second highest employees of Ibom Air, after Akwa Ibom indigenes. Ibom Air is owned by a State where over one hundred thousand Igbos are living peaceably and doing business without any form of attacks. The Igbos have businesses in Akwa Ibom and never has any conspire to demarket them. Tell me one single time Akwa Ibom people have shown hated against the Igbos?

For the records, Ibom Air is on the only Nigerian Airline listed in the top 10 airlines in Africa by the globally recognized Business Insider. Ibom Air was Leadership Company of the year and in only four years of commercial operations, Ibom Air is rated as one of the most successful airlines in the country.

Ibom Air has, as part of its assets, 10 A220 aircraft valued at one Hundred Billion Naira, and home Company to West Africa's only MRO facility. This is not a kind of investment you instigate hatred against.

I call on proud sons and daughters of Akwa Ibom to rise and defend our own brand.

Akwa Abasi Akwa Ibom Aya diong Ibom Air. Yak Ekikere mmé idiok Owo ade ntak ntak. Amên

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#IbomAirToTheWorld
#WeStandWithIbomAir


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So because one guy who got disappointed by Ibom Air decided to call out the airline, your brain automatically interpreted that it was tribal? How did you even link his protest to tribe?

And then you proceed to call out all Igbos? From the look of things, its obvious that you're the tribalist.

ReubenE:
I guess you are reading too much meaning into what I said.
There is absolutely no complaint over creating unique zones for minority tribes.

You correctly said it is a geo-political zone and in the context of geography, South-South is a meaningless name.
You asked if there is a difference between South-South and Niger Delta? I'm sure the difference is self explanatory.
Again, no minority tribe in the south is complaining that a separate zone was created for them. My comment is not a political one but is about the meaningless name as it does not represent any geo-location

I'm glad we agree that the term 'south-south' isn't just geographical, but rather a geo-political coinage.

iSense247:
https://www.informationng.com/2023/06/we-demolished-gandujes-roundabout-because-it-carries-sign-of-the-cross-kano-govt.html/amp

This is the kind of fvckery that makes one to start reasoning with IPOB. How can there be real progress when we share a country with people that reason like this?

ReubenE:
Same way North-North does not make any meaning is what South-South is. While the name does not have any direct bearing on capacity, Niger Delta would have made more meaning as a geo-political zone than that nonsensical South-South coinage.

There should be no South-South because there is none

The south-south is a geo-political zone and not just a geographical area. The zones were carved out considering not only the geographical location, but also the political interest of the people involved. The SS was carved out of the western/midwest zone and the Eastern zone and the main consideration was to group southern minority tribes into a separate zone where they wouldn't be dominated by the 2 major tribes of the western and eastern block (Yorubas and Igbos). Ive never seen anyone from the SS or the North central zone complain of the fact that they were carved into separate unique zones.

The term SS or Niger delta, what's the difference? And how does the term 'Niger delta' make it feel better?... besides, these are geo-political zones, not just 'political' zones; so would you have prefered the 6 zones in the country to be have NW, NE, NC, SW, SE and Niger Delta? Does it really make any sense?

Basic123:
He said and so what is the big deal


So because of that other people copied from him.

Are you people brain working at all!


If answer to a question in 5,..it always be 5...if doesn't mean everyone that wrote 5 copied each other.by the way,single currency exchange channel has been the suggestions of all financial Pundits all this while!..just that buhari and your brother Emefiele failed to listen.

Enough of this you people baby attitude

You're the person who really should be asked that bolded question. Is your brain working at all?

I didnt mention anywhere whether anybody copied anybody; I'm not interested in that pointless line of discussion. The only reason I quoted you was because you inferrred that Peter OBI never denounced the multiple exchange rate system. I provided a tweet evidence to back my point that OBI indeed had always condemned the multiple exchange rates. Only for you to dismiss my claim by saying "a tweet wasnt a manifesto". How can a person with a functional brain say that?

Temiwands:
South Central

Nowhere like that exists in the Nigerian geopolitical system.

TheOldGods:
in my all tears of studying geographical terrains, there is nothing on this earth like south South. It's either South East or south West. Nothing like South north, South South. The south South is South East.

Hmm.. after spending so much time and resources studying geographical areas, isn't it amusing that you cant differentiate between a GEOGRAPHICAL LOCATION and GEO-POLITICAL zones?

Geo-political zones arent just about geography; other considerations were made when the geopolitical zones were defined. The SE homogenously harbours a majority tribe (Igbos). The SS zone is a grouping of the minority southern tribes. Similarly, you have the north-central zone which also doesnt exist on any compass. NC is a geopolitical zone expression which encompasses a group of minority tribes around the middle-belt. There's a politically expedient reason why these geopolitical groupings were made, one of which is to ensure that the majority tribes dont dominate and overshadow people from minority tribes, it's all about equity.

Not even for once have I heard of people of the north-central or the south-south complaining about the existence of their unique geopolitical zones. So why does it have to always be people from the SE complaining about the existence of the SS and claiming the SS is part of the SE? You need not be so wise to understand that this attitude of yours can only elicit a feeling on 'suspicion' from the SS people. By asserting that the SS doesnt exist but is a part of the SE, isn't that the 'marriage by force' which the IPOB keeps preaching against? In one vain you complain of how the SE is forcefully joined to Nigeria; within the same space, you're forcefully attaching the SS to the SE without considering the opinion of the SS people?

Please stop embarrassing Igbos online abeg!

Basic123:
Is this the manifesto?...or what his twitter handler just posted!

And what us the big deal if two students get a question right.

You children of hate should let the world rest with your wahala jare

Oga what are you talking about?... A person publicly screams the same idea over and over again, but in your bizarre logic and reasoning, he didnt say it cos I didnt show you a manifesto? What kind of reasoning is that?

What do you mean by saying 2 students can get a question right?... You and the fellows I quoted claimed OBI never said it, I took the pains to dig up and old tweet as proof yet this is the best reply you can vome up with?

Globad:
When did Obi say this?

Obi that supported the currency confiscation programme?

tinsel:
Don't mind the idiots

Basic123:
Those people are fools and subhumans


This pethief OBI didn't release his manifestos unyilla month after Tinubu releases his manifestos

How can a whole movement ot Tribe thrives on LIES!

OBI has always advocated for scrapping the multiple exchange rate and floating the Naira. OBI has always also been an advocate of ending fuel subsidy.... Below is an OBI tweet from September last year boldly talking of the exchange rate.

@tinsel, Basic123... If you really want to know who the real idiots, fools and subhumans are, perhaps all you guys need do is look in the mirror.

TheOldGods:
there is nothing like south South

Where are you from?... I've never heard a person from the SS make this statement before.

This Akpabio na just clown

I agree, if elections are reconducted today, OBI wouldnt get up to half of what he got in the last election.

But the reason definitely isnt what that Fayose fellow is saying... the reason is simple, APC in a rerun will deploy the worst form of desperate rigging known to humanity. They wouldnt dare repeat the mistake of underestimating OBI.

What we saw in the March 18 gubernatorial election would be child's play cos the APC would be deploying mindless violence and intimidation.

This Sowore don ment completely... Jealousy and bitterness has eroded his brain...

What's wrong with Peter Obi working as the head of Tincan port during the Abacha time? Too many dumb skulls on the lose...

Lol...

Emefiele doesnt just need to be suspended/sacked. He needs to be tied to an electric pole and flogged mercilessly by fulani herdsmen.

Just behold the way INEC is fooling itself by acting as an unimportant appendage of the APC...

The way blogger and journalists dubiously twist information needs to be studied.

zeenaman:
Personal opinion:

The relationship between cars and Petrol is complementary in nature. Complementary in the sense that, one is needed to augment the other, just like garri and kulikuli.

Going by basic economics principle, there is an inverse price relationship between complementary goods i.e an increase in the price of one results in decrease in the demand for the other. With this, it is conceivable that with increase in the price of petroleum, there will be less demand for cars, hence result in price crash occasioned by excess supply over demand.

Also, from the angle of the Federal government, the rich benefit more from the subsidy. People with ten cars will now find it unfunny fueling the convoy, and this may result in selling off some of the vehicles. This should further increase the supply of cars and drive down the price.

Let's talk about this, do you see the price of cars crashing? Let's leave out the Nigerian factor, corruption and base our argument on fact.

Let's leave out the Nigerian factor? But that's the most important bit which controls and distorts everything else. In Nigeria, no law of economics works; the only prevailing law in Nigeria is the Nigerian factor! .. In otherwords, no price is coming down!

NOETHNICITY:
You are a brilliant mind no doubt. But do you sincerely believe that the spirit of the constitution wants compulsory 25% electoral requirement for the FCT before someone can be declared winner?

It's not about what the authors of the constitution intended, its not even about what makes sense; it's more about what's written in the constitution.

Oh yes, the 25% requirement in the FCT doesnt make any sense; I had this very discussion on this forum right before the election on the impropriety of that "25% in FCT" requirement... there're also many provisions in the constitution that just make no sense. The authors of the constitution may have intended something else, but the language used in the document clearly says something else.

Zico5:
We will see who is ignorant at the end. Tinubu will rule u for eight years then power goes back to North. As for ur Obi, he has laboured in vain

Whatever the court chooses to rule and whether Tinubu rules for 4, 8 or 16 years, it doesnt change the fact that you're the empty headed olodo who was confusing 1999 constitution for 1 man's opinion.

Zico5:
Majority of obidients are nothing but empty heads. We are talking of what's written in the constitution and not one man's opinion. I have never heard about 25% in federal or state capital in my life and the way they are pushing this issue shows they are pure garbage. Thank God it's their opinion and not what the constitution say. In 1979, when Lagos was the federal capital, Awolowo won Lagos with landslide but Shagari was pronounced the president cos he scored the majority votes. Let see how this goes, but I know they have failed already

You say "we are talking what's written in the constitution and not one man's opinion." So within the limits of your understanding, the 1999 constitution is one man's opinion?.... You've just exposed yourself as the empty headed illiterate you talk about.

LagosFirstSon:
I remembered how former president Muhammadu Buhari media aide, Femi adesina used to castigate the Igbos at any given opportunity just because he wanted to please Buhari. But today, Buhari is no more to employ him and guess what, An Igbo man has employed Femi adesina in his newspaper company as vice chairman. The name of the Igbo man is his Excellency, the former governor of Abia state and a high ranking serving senator of the federal republic of Nigeria, Mr Uzor Orji Kalu.


This life is so unpredictable .. so we must all be careful not to offend the Igbos because one way or the other, they will save your ass .

Hmm.. How did Feni Adesina hate Igbos?

Merry100:
Even though I had to follow certain doctrines when I was younger, I have come to question some of them as they cannot be proven through the Bible. I am particularly curious about where the Bible specifically forbids wearing earrings. My parents are devout Christians, and they did not even pierce my ears, let alone allow me to wear earrings. However, one day I felt like wearing an earring, so I put on a magnetic earring and went out. Later in that day, I attended a Church program a friend invited me but when I got to the Church, I was asked to remove my earring or leave.

I am not trying to shade Christianity, not all Churches treat visitors that way, I was even surprised at the way I was treated that day. I am just specifically curious about where God condemned earring in the Bible? I accept that all Churches have their own doctrines but some of these Churches still use there doctrines to rate Christians from other Churches. Is wearing earring a sin or just some Church doctrines? I can't find any verse in the Bible that condemns earring. If you know any please indicate.

Different churches have different doctrines which they practice. Doctrines dont necessarily have to be direct commandments from the bible; they could just be cultural practices adopted by a group of worshippers; e.g. some churches choosing to wear white flowing garments every sunday.

The logic is simple, if you dont feel comfortable doing that, there's thousands of other churches who dont practice the doctrine which you find uncomfortable.

Success1981:
Whether he is using strong voodoo on the various leaderships or they are part of the business. Nigeria's democracy has been so far created for Dangote because I remembered in 1999 when Obasanjo banned importation of cement and gave Dangote full monopoly of cement distribution and this is how subsequent administrations have been working for him aside Yaradua.
Just 2/3 days in the opening of Dangote refinery and this is what we get.

Oh yes, subsidy has been removed for Dangote as you claim; but was the offer not open to everyone?..... Dangote simply knows how and when to take the bull by the horn. You cant keep hating a smart acheiver.

During the early OBJ days, the FG came up with the cement import substitution policy. Cement importers at the time were mandated to setup local manufacturing plants within a period of some years. Upon expiration of the time period, only those who heeded and showed evidence of setting up local production plants would have their import licenses renewed. Dangote of course jumped in on this and started with Obajana cement plant in 2005. As expected, his import license was renewed while several others fell off the grid, heralding the start of his monopoly... Can you really blame Dangote for being a smart man?

Then regarding fuel; since 1999, successive federal administrations have been begging and begging investors to come set up refineries and hundreds of licenses have been issued sonce 1999. Of course the import substitution policy still exists, i.e. only those who have capacity and who refine locally will retain a license to import. But once again, businnessmen shied away from building refineries for decades, citing the concerns that non-deregulation of the downstream sector would make the refining business unprofitable. Again, successive federal govts promised time and time again to fully deregulate once local refining capacity comes up. Despite this, businessmen remained skeptical and chose to stick with petroleum importation which brings easy, quick and low risk money.

Dangote of course dared to take the path which most businessmen regarded as 'foolish' by investing in a refinery. Now as history is about to repeat itself again (in a massive way), haters have started gathering in whatsapp groups.

juvewalex:
He didn't explain why local production won't reduce fuel price , if you're producing in Nigeria, will there still be a landing cost ?

Nigeria government is never straight forward in dealing with its citizens.

Na still corruption be this anyways.

I was trying to explain this to someone just yesterday. Dangote refinery can't automatically reduce petrol prices. Yes local production could lower the pump price, but not enough to give us 'cheap' fuel cos the total landing cost of petrol isnt made up of just the import logistic component.... There's also the raw material cost and then the massive exchange rate issue.

At the current cost of N500+, local production could probably push the price down to around N400, but that can happen only if the refining was by NNPC. Knowing who Dangote is, he'd want to make a decent profit.

Over time however, local production would translate to massive forex savings and excess forex would mean strengthening of the Naira. When the Naira strenghtens to about the N360/$ level, then perhaps pump prices would drop to about N300 (this should be about a year after Nigeria stops importing fuel).

Redoil:
Tinubu once opposed subsidy removal during GEJ administration when cost of living was relatively cheap. His party is in government for the past eight years and they didn't build any refinery. The masses will suffer it the more now his party has removed subsidy in the midst of suffering.
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Same way when the past regime of President Goodluck Jonathan wanted to remove and rid Nigeria of this economic monster 13 years ago, but all you demons in the APC vehemently opposed him only to perpetuate the same fraudulent fuel subsidy then lied of removing it again and again. Bunch of fucktards and retards.

and as for you posting this clip carry your broom go filling station and shout emilokan and see the amount of biscuit that will fill your jerrycan

Are some of you not tired of this delibrate falsehood? Was it only ApC that opposed subsidy removal in 2012? ... All the people who protested all over the states in Nigeria in 2012 and even during the times when OBJ tried to remove subsidy, were they also APC?

Can you swear on your life and the lives of your family members that you supported the sudden 120% increase in pump prices from N65 to N142 in 2012?

nairalanda1:
I've been on Nairaland for a while. Supporting subsidy removal gets you abuse. Explaining it gets you abuse. I can't even say i support it and haven't been able to since 2011.

It gets tiring at times.

I'm not necessaril referring to you; I believe you when you say you supported it. But my point is that 99% of those claiming they supported subsidy removal in 2012 and claiming that it was 'APC' that fought it are just bloody liars!

Redoil:
Same way when the past regime of President Goodluck Jonathan wanted to remove and rid Nigeria of this economic monster 13 years ago, but all you demons in the APC vehemently opposed him only to perpetuate the same fraudulent fuel subsidy then lied of removing it again and again. Bunch of fucktards and retards.

Bobloco:
Don't mind those hypocrites

We have not forgotten the accompanying protests Tinubu and his ilks sponsored....Occupy Nigeria protests

Can you guys swear on your lives and the lives of your family members that in January 2012 you supported the sudden removal of subsidy and embraced the consequent 120% hike in pump price from N65 to N142?

Funny how 13 years later, everyone now claims they supported fuel price hike in 2012 and that people who complained were 'APC' members.

nairalanda1:
They probably did. Back then you could not say it publicly.Even supporting subsidy removal now gets one labelled an oppressor.

Even me, ever since the early 1990's , I just parroted the same thing our radical elders parroted. Subsidy must stay, and the IMF is evil.

Until I actually sat down in 2011, and read up on subsidy. Have been reading since, and the more I read, the more I am opposed.

Who's going to label you an oppressor for explaining the benefits of subsidy removal? We aren't talking of people in government, we talking just ordinary people on the streets. Who's going to label you an oppressor for suppoprting subsidy removal?

If we're to be honest, the undiluted truth is that Nigerians from history have always opposed anything that leads to a fuel price hike. Only time Nigerians didn't seem to oppose subsidy removal was in 2016 when Buhari removed it; by then Nigerians were already worn out with Buhari's excesses so no one bothered to complain.

nairalanda1:
Actually, I did...in 2011/12, when I started listening to the 'government propaganda' and realized how damaging subsidy was to our economy.

Also, not everyone is on Nairaland.

The total percentage of Nigerians who supported the almost 120% inflation in pump price on January 1st 2012 was not up to 0.01% of the population. Perhaps you were among that 0.01% of people who did. But I just find it laughable how almost everyone commenting today now claim they also supported subsidy removal in 2012.

The way in which almost everyone now claims they supported subsidy removal in 2012, one begins to wonder who all those people were who protested all over Nigeria in 2012; even Flavour released a song in protest then. But revisionist have somehow convinced us it was APC that organised protests in 2012. When in history have NIgerians ever embraced fuel price increase?

Unfortunately he's now our president and there's absolutely nothing we can do about it. Greed and tribalism pushed him up there, and now we just have to manage him no matter how much he stumbles.