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2 Chr 20:21
Glory be to God in the highest Amen
For his mercies endureth forever Amen

My favorite verse when going out to contests, exams, interviews, battle, gbege etc.

mykl01:
Please, where is this your village?
Owerri town?

Somewhere in ideato n. Oh yes most of projects may be concentrated in owerri, but if you are from imo, you will agree with me that despite his focus on owerri, he has still done far more projects in communities outside owerri than his 2 recent predecessors.

Amah70:
How Okorocha won 2nd Term 2015.

In 2015, Okorocha left too many uncompleted projects, mostly roads outside the state capital, and his 27 general hospitals.

So 2015 reelection, Imo people had no choice but reelect Okorocha for fear that if another person was elected, the Okorocha projects might not be completed; because Okorocha himself hardly completed any project of his predecessors.

But Okorocha wickedly leaves these roads uncompleted, but rather started to build inland roads, flyovers, tunnels, and most annoying, eight lane streets - all in the state capital.

I dont know about all these, people always will have complaints. I'm not trying to defend the man as a saint, I'm particularly disappointed in the quality of his projects. However, what I can say with a high degree of confidence is that he isnt half as bad as the 'angry mob' has been painting him; the campaigns of calumny against him are purely political (specifically because he joined APC).

At least you agree he started numerous road projects in almost all communities across the state. If not for anything, since the beginning of time, he was the first to bring any kind of govt presence to my interior community. I can now drive on tarred roads till I get to my family compound, something I never dreamt of before 2011. Of course I agree there are still lots of uncompleted branches of these interior roads even in my own village, but I cant help but simply acknowledge the one he did.

Cuche:
This APC guy self
I know Imo state in my finger tips, I will rather not engage you It is better Imo citizens take you on your assertions.



Rochas the Rochas.
I think the best legacy he will leave is to pay back completely the loans he took on behalf of Imo State's future. I don't know the repayment plans he has for that but Imolites should be grateful to Sanusi Lamido who promptly bared Rochas from planless and thoughtless indebtedness of Imo State. As for project, he was quite ambitious because he took more bites than he can chew. Frankly, those projects in totality are not a match to the achievements of Mr Sullivan Chime and Mr Obi/Ngige in the comparative terms.
Rochas second term projects will not also match the comparative terms of Willie Obiano and Dave Umahi. All these SE Governors I mentioned took minimal loans.

You want Imo citizens to speak right?... I'm sure you suppose I'm from Zamfara right?... Even with all the horrible media coverage, the political motivated negative propaganda against me man (courtesy of the contempt people have for him cos he joined APC), Imo citizens as you rightly pointed out still re-elected him in 2015. That was pure evidence that the people on ground know better than the pointless loud pointless campaigns of calumny against him coming primarily from people who arent even from the state.

I dont know about the loans he collected compared with other states, but what I know is that there are projects everywhere, much more than Imolites experienced in the combined 12 years of ohakim and udenwa.

seguno2:
Please tell us by what % he has improved the ratio of students:teachers, students:classrooms, students:laboratories, students:libraries?
By what % has he increased coverage of the entire state with water provision? Ordinary tap water oh.
By what % has he increased the ratio of residents:hospital beds, residents:doctors, residents:nurses, residents:pharmacists, residents:laboratory technicians.
What was the UNEMPLOYMENT rate when he was sworn in? What is it now?
I hope that you can respond with credible sources to support this messiah whose successor will be stoned. What a comedian!

You can kindly open the floor by giving us those statistics for other states. I was referring to projects being executed, things people see and not some paper statistics.

seguno2:
Did you use the past tense by mistake or was it an error?
Do you mean that Sam Mbakwe and the great Zik didn't do as much in the SE as Okorocha?
Do you mean that Chris Ngige, Peter Obi and Obiano have not done as much or you are saying that Anambra is not part of the SE?

I mean in the present times, not the Mbakwes time. Oh yes I am saying Rochas has matched and even surpassed those anambra guys you yalk abouy in terms of projects. I cant vouch for project quality though, but what i am sure of is the fact that he has outdone several other governors, in Imo state alone, he's done more projects than the 12 years of udenwa and ohakim combined. He's only just hated rabidly and facts keep being distorted ridiculously against him purely because of his affiliation with apc.

Only crime of Rochas is the China quality of his roads/projects. That aside, no other governor in the SE has done as much as he has. But of course, he still gets the highest amount of insults because of his fellowship with APC (the biggest Igbo nightmare).

Afam4eva:
I will keep saying that the call by Nnamdi Kanu and IPOB for disintegration does not contravene any known laws so should not be treated as a criminal case. Even though i have reservations about some of his choice of words, especially in the past, i think what he is doing is a germaine attempt to rile the government of the day to take Ndigbo seriously.

However, i'm disturbed by his recent statement that if Biafra is not given a referendum, that elections will not hold in Igboland, starting with the Anambra elections that comes up in November. While i know him and his group will pull something simila to the successful sit-at-home order, which in itself is within their rights and also does ot contravene any laws, i think if he goes ahead with his threat, we may taking Anambr state and Igboland back to the dark ages. Because it might give some people who have no business being in government taking over government because the electorates did not come out to vote.

We may not be whre we want to be but the Anambra state government starting from Peter Obi now to Obiano have made some leap which we're hoping that future governors will consolidate on.

So, i want every right thinking Igbo man to condemn Kanu's statement and i appeal to him to withdraw his statement.

Kanu doesnt need to withdraw the statement. The fact is that people will still come out and vote their preferred candidate irrespective. Once the story filters into the airwaves that APC (the Igbo nightmare ) is going to win, dem no dey tell blind man say war don start.

SaulRazor:
Bro you have to admit it's worse now, Fulani herdsmen have virtually commandeered every single Federal Highway now

Saying that it is worse is actually debatable... Their nefarious activities only now gets the much needed publicity and reportage unlike before; and this is because with a fulani man being president, it has become a fashionable political jingle to sing that herdsmen (a.k.a brothers of the president) are marauding BECAUSE their brother is president. With this political endorsement, every single herdsmen attack post-2015 election gets full publicity, even attacks that may not be herdmen are now conveniently tagged herdsmen attack. If I have a problem with my brother, all I need do is go attack him in his farm and the story instantly hits frontpages as herdmen attack. Last month, 2 warring tribes in Benue clashed, one group invaded the other community slaughtering people all over the place; of course, it was reported as herdmen attack.

Of course the herdsmen attack is real, but it must be acknowledged that it certainly did not start today as our political theorists now choose to paint it. If you doubt, ask any friend of yours who's from Benue, Plateau, Nassarawa etc to tell you what they've endured through the years. And of course, when there is a cancer and it is not treated, it festers (a.k.a gets worse).

inkon:
Nigeria and Biafra will make great neighbours especially Oduduwa, if they choose to part ways, that is. Forget about the so-called hate speeches.

It's dumb founding when people complain of hate speeches without trying to investigate the cause. Majority of the youths of this country are frustrated already. They have been to school and they now know that the system is not developed to succeed. Nigeria keeps retrogressing with every passing day.

Just a few days ago, a young Hausa man was honoured in UK by the Queen for his technological ingenuity. Would that have happened if he was in Nigeria?

Nigeria is designed to hamper the potentials of the youths and those who understand are deeply angry

Nigeria and Biafra will make good neighbours only if the separation is achieved in a cordial manner. But even at that, I don't trust the north being accommodating to an Igbo man should there be a secrssion. By default, majority of Hausas up north hate Igbos and ironically, the same Hausas are the biggest opponents to Igbo secession. Let's be honest with ourselves, do you honestly think the Hausa man on the streets of Kano for instance will be more courteous to an Igbo living in Kano if the SE should secede?

SaulRazor:
God punish anybody still supporting Buhari, never before has this country been so insecure

If you think the marauding herdsmen started their robbery or attacks of farmers or farming communities in 2015, then you are just uninformed. The herdsmen have been marauding and causing pains for farmers especially in the middle belt for ages without it getting any single publicity or reportage. It started receiving publicity only post-2015 because at the time, it seemed like a very suitable political argument since a fulani man became president.

Enough of the pointless politicising of the age long problem. If it still pains you so much that your preferred candidate lost the 2015 elections, try and prepare better campaign strategies for 2019 and quit these watery theories.

A clear case of armed robbery; of course the narrator of the story had to add the all too common twist that the herdsmen robbers separated the Igbos ftom the rest and shot them. If that twist isnt added in the story in this season, how can the story be sensational?


For ages, armed herdsmen living in forest settlements do come out to highways to rob and then they fall back into the forest. In 2009, I was almost robbed by these same herdsmen when they dashed out of the bush in the Benin bypass. My dad has also been robbed by same herdsmen along the Oleh-Ogwashiukwu highway somewhere close to Kwale. For whatever reason, security operatives have never been able to checkmate their activities. But thank God for 2015 election results, their activities now finally get the much deserved publicity....

pauljumbo:
The insults you see online is as a result of a people who don't want to be in union with you

How long are we going to keep suppressing a mandate millions of people believe in

if this government succeed in making Nnamdi Kanu forget about Biafra agitation a new leader will spring up

i dont know why we are afraid that secession will bring doom to Nigeria

there are several countries that experience secession they are better off today

so if the Igbos want to secede we should encourage it without bitterness because am seeing some politicians will start using the Biafra agitation to heat up the polity

The reason behind the agitation isnt the point, the message I tried to pass isnt also about how Nigeria would be better off or not, that is absolutely not what I'm talking about or even want to talk about.

My point was simple, if there was to be a separation, with the vast amount of investments and interests Igbos have all over Nigeria, it is definitely a silly thing to engage in any acts which can make the separation incordial because such acts will put the investments of Igbos all over Nigeria at risk.

Unfortunately, this is where ipob organisation has completely rubbished everything; the foundation of the ipob approach was to preach hate, spew unprintable insults at everybody and even leave threats on a daily basis. Such an approach has not only ridiculed sensible Igbos all over Nigeria, it has also put the security of lives and investments of Igbos all over Nigeria at risk. If anyone cannot see that, then it's a pity.

pauljumbo:
so is that a good reason to seize the properties of Igbos if biafra becomes a country?

what you are saying is because we have millions of people who hate buhari and also abuse him because he is fulani man he should seize their properties because he is the president of Nigeria?

we are seeing this hatred because we try to force the igbos in the union of Nigeria

Biafra is an ideology that should be engaged with logic not threath of igbo man will lose his property if biafra becomes a country

Nowhere did I insinuate that it is good to seize anyone's property. I only called for common sense to be applied to the issue; as a smart adult, if I have a valuable property planted within my neighbours compound, I would have to apply some wisdom when thrashing out issues with him. I will do all I can to ensure I dont infuriate him, and this will remain the wise thing to keep doing until I successfully retrieve all my valuable belongings from his compound. This is common sense I would suppose. But obviously, ipob organisation didnt think this wisdom was necessary; it probably doesnt even care about the vast number of Igbos who have mega investments outside Igboland, after all, "Why didnt they bring their investments home even when we warned them to do so?"

Applying common sense to the matter, I wonder why you should be surprised that following the threats of destroying the zoo, there are now counter threats of property seizures. What exactly were you expecting to be the natural reaction of the insulted people of the zoo?

pauljumbo:
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i disagree with you check nairaland there is thread about nigeria and kenya even nigeria and Ghana they insult themselves everyday online and Nigerians still own properties in Ghana and kenya, me and you know non of this people who insults themeselve online will do it in real life.

even if biafra insults Nigerians does that mean they will loose their properties in Nigeria id biafra succeed?

How could you be confusing the mere social banters between Nigeria vs Ghana/Kenya with the rabid hate filled inter-ethnic/tribal abuses prevalent in Nigeria lately?.. Are you for real?

I don tire for this politically motivated mumuness that is pervading Nigeria.

pauljumbo:
Biafra does not mean you will loss properties you own in Nigeria

Nigerian own property all over the world using loosing properties because of secession it wount happen

Nigerians own properties around the world and reserve the rights and freedom to enjoy ownership of the properties they own in those foreign countries. However, what you and many others fail to take note of is that Nigerians do not go about online and on TV, throwing 10,000 insults and abuses and destruction threats to the citizens of those countries day and night, Nigerians do not go about calling those countries zoos and neither do we call the inhabitants (from fathers to mothers to kids) animals. If that were the case, I doubt we would be able to peacefully own properties in those countries.

I think this is quite commonsensical, hence why smart people think ipob organisation and its cult followers are doing more harm than good to Igbos (especially those living outside Igboland). However, the ipob guys dont really care cos most of them are domiciled in the south east and care less about the welfare or investments of Igbos like the Op who invested their entire lives outside Igboland.

I suppose these reps didnt see all these things during the previous budget debates?... They only seem to have seen it now they've been accused of inserting boreholes and grinders in Works budget.

Hahahaha... Politicians!

When you are out of power (a.k.a free fow of GMG bags), they call for restructuring as the only way out of the nation's economic and social crisis. The moment they leave power, they instantly remember that the country isn't ripe for restructuring.

SnowJay92:
Except they won't, those words are not leaving the Constitution nor the heavy implications they carry reducing it's grip on the country any time soon. I saw an NYSC corper last week wearing a vest, do you know the inscription on it? "SERVING ISLAM THROUGH THE NATION" boldly WRITTEN! I wanted to create a thread about it but I backed down so I won't be misunderstood. Those words you talk about lightly mean a lot to the people who put them there, to them it holds meaning, an interest they hold above whatever national aspirations you have. That's what I call fatal conflict of interest, that is what Nigeria is.

So what exactly is your suggestion as I can see this religion of others makes you very uncomfortable?... Should we fight to remove it from the constitution or should we fight to also include sone Christian things in the document for equality?

SnowJay92:
I won't like to involve myself in any religious arguments now, but it's not about the mentioning of the words that's giving people headaches, it's the heavy implications they carry that matters. Implications that bind on you even as a Christian or whatever faith.

AntiMahdi:
The issue is that on one hand you claim Nigeria is secular but the same constitution has recommendations for sharia administration.

Is that not a contradiction?

I agree with you both, we should truly spend our time worrying about what religious words like 'Sharia' and 'Islam' are doing in the constitution of a country which should be secular. I think we should press on it until every such word and law is removed from the constitution.

CROWNWEALTH019:
Stay off my mention

I would never cross paths with someone who I know represents 'irrelevance' in my affairs. Last time I checked, it was some jobless folk bearing your name that jumped into my mention uninvited, posting the pic of a man who probably looks like his father.

Hallelluia!... Finally Nigeria gets to export something, finally I can walk into the grocery stores in London and buy yams with the label 'imported from Nigeria'

CROWNWEALTH019:
Myndd44

...and what could he be calling the MODs for?... In an unsolicited move, you just randomly posted the picture of a man. If he isn't yourself, or your father or your brother, I wonder what sane person would just randomly send the picture of a man to someone else. Or do you need some psychological evaluation?

CROWNWEALTH019:

That must be that face of your father right?

AntiMahdi:
The Richardson constitution (which was secular in nature) was only applicable in the south (before independence) and was later adopted as the supreme law under the federal govt.

It was agitation by radical Islamist student movements in the north that forced that coward Obasanjo to include sharia law into our constitution.

Long before independence the northern region had sharia law as its constitution which the British rightly omitted from the Richardson constitution.

For most parts of the civil war up till 1979, the country was governed by military decrees and penal system.

While I dont support the idea of any religious thing being included in the constitution of a multi-religious country, I still dont see the essence of this thread. You basically seem to be complaining that the word Islam and Sharia are mentioned in the Nigerian constitution, but that Christianity or the word 'church' isnt in the constitution. My question is, must everything be seen as competition?... How does it make it better if the word 'Church' or 'Christian' is included in the constitution?

Constitution talks about Sharia law in the north, hence it is understood why Islamic words would be in the constitution. But I don't think there is anything like Christian court, so I wonder why the absence of the word 'Church' or 'Christian' should be an issue to give any normal person sleepless nights. Maybe we should push a bill to have Episcopal or Ecclesiastical Courts since everything is now competition in Nigeria post 2015 elections.

Edu3Again:
We all know that only insane people will vote APC.

Not to worry Nigeria's days are numbered.

The fulani people have been found wanting and judged.


Daniel 5 (KJV)

26 God hath numbered thy kingdom(Fulani), and finished it.

27 Thou art weighed in the balances, and art found wanting.

28 Thy kingdom(Nigeria) is divided.

As we all know that the killings of Christians are okay but the killings of fulani people is considered genocide
www.nairaland.com/attachments/5565518_s32421_jpegadb707ea6e4903a1a7689ecd31d76726

https://mobile.twitter.com/SaharaReporters/status/880109274717966346/video/1

Afterall God said not to have anything to do with change people.

Proverbs 24:21
My son, fear thou the Lord and the king: and meddle not with them that are given to change:


Well they say it's too late to restructure.
www.nairaland.com/attachments/5567231_annkiobriggs_jpeg08984c6b9a6b41c49562d608779870c7

https://www.nairaland.com/3888746/it-too-late-restructure-nigeria

Of course, Chief Andrew Uchendu is now a Fulani man in the eyes of deluded PDP losers. #Iberiberism

paBuhari:
So basically You are a Unity Begger? Well I have news for you; - WE DONT WANT TO BE PART OF NIGERIA!!!

...and you are a secession beggar?... Let's see how you will achieve that and ruin the lives of millions of people simply because you cant match up to your mates.

Agumbaa:
Would Nigeria ??

A call for restructuring is the only reasonable thing that should be done. FOr a tribe which has the widest economic and commercial spread with trillions in investments spread around the country, calling for outright secession is very thoughtless, or of course you will agree with me that the call is mainly championed by those who literally have absolutely nothing to lose.

Billyonaire:
I understand your anger but your despair is what baffles me. Have you noticed, that you are blaming the symptoms and not address the root of these upheavals happening all over our political and ethnic contours ?

A man like you, that can read and write handsomely, is supposed to go a step further in reasoning, do not take this as an insult, but my next line of word will dowse your bruised emotion.

The iliiterates do not know any other way of addressing their hunger, their sufferings, their inabilities to even procure a decent accomodation. Needless to mention police brutality, robbery and kidnapping and our entire country is populated with gated communities. Do you think I like to live in my own house, yet I fence myself around and keep the gates locked even when I am home ? I never in my life believed this could be a norm. We live in our self-created prisons and we do not even know our neighbors. I digressed forgive me for that.

But if an educated man like you can not 'diagnose' the root of these upheavals and conceptualize a solution, yet spend more time criticizing the 'jobless', 'useless', 'silly' 'yoots' as you call them, who lost hope, but were given semblance of hope by one man who is ready to give his life to make sure there is a semblance of change is their only hope. Does insulting them, make you clever ?

Instead of lending a strong voice amplifying for Restructuring to Federating units with State Police recruited from indigenous people to control these upheavals you have become totally biased.

What was done to the Igbos was wrong. We all know that, but we have chosen to insult them more because we do not like them. This is very sad.

Do not join the madness of pouring fuel on the inferno.

First of all, I am bamboozled by your insinuations; can you please point out where I just insulted anyone on this thread?.... Could you be confusing my comments with someone else?... I simply stated a FACT that 98% of the agitators are unemployed and not-doing-fine people who are tiredness of the hopelessness in the system, hence they are clinging on to whatever it is they perceive as a glimmer of hope. It's unfortunate if you interpret that as an insult.

My own position on the matter is that the people are chasing shadows because the people they have been brainwashed to see as enemies are not the enemy, but rather fellow compatriots suffering exactly the same fate. The problem has always been the heartless elite ruling class and these real enemies cut across all regions of the country (they don't exist only in certain selected regions of the country). Until this anger is directed at the right enemies, the whole agitations for secession will remain a deluded journey.

If the elite ruling class even in Igboland are not held to ransom and forced to be accountable, the big problem will still persist and I do not see how secession will perform any magic on this (except NK just wishes to be another African hard-line dictator who would kill off all the elite when secession is achieved).

If only half of the energy poured into calling for secession were to be directed at calling for restructuring (as a first step in pulling us out of a major political/economic quagmire), then at least, the agitation would not only have received massive support from intellectuals, it would also have received full support and endorsements from neighbouring zones (SS, SW and middle-belt). I just can't even rationalise how in 2017, of all the tribes in Nigeria, it then becomes the tribe has the widest national spread in terms of investments and commerce that would be calling for outright secession. What other evidence do you need to know that the agitation is devoid of intellectual inputs?

Emusan:
Please, can you now tell us who/what is/are real ENEMY/ENEMIES of Nigeria?

Kindly waiting for your sincere answer!

The enemy isn't that common Hausa or Yoruba man on the street who is equally hustling and also suffering the exact same problems as that same Igbo man on the streets. The problem has always being the useless elite leaders, and these elite leaders I talk about aren't restricted to any particular ethnic/regional/religious groups; they actually cut across all areas of Nigeria. I really don't see how breaking away from other ethnic nationalities or changing country name would solve this particular problem. Me thinks the core problem of demanding accountability from immediate leaders is of utmost importance; that is where these agitations should be channelled to.

Billyonaire:
If my recollection serves me right, it has always been jobless youths and students that started the world famous revolutions. Do a little reading here and there and I think we should be careful how we take things. Whether we hate them or love them, what they are doing now is affecting the psyche and the life of the country.

Let the government still remain silent until all these people call jobless, students and idiots shutdown all oil installations. I know you will retort the same issues of military massacre, well, if that happens you have played into their hands. Israeli Press are everywhere now, to cover what is going on with their lost tribe of Hebrew people. That is not my point. My point is, if they shut down the Oil wells, then our dear traveling President will not have adequate funds to pay for the charges accumulated by the Jets packed in London, he might not even be able to pay the multi-billion hotel and hospital bills accumulating per hour.

I love my country but I hate its structure. You guys should focus on getting the country restructed so you and I can earn some bucks from our local resources. We are not supposed to work this hard when we have resources under our feet yet few people control and enjoy with their kids. And the most painful thing is, that they marry only each other and you are here supporting them.

I wanted to say 'You should be Ashamed of yourself', but I changed my mind. I wont say it.

Like I said earlier, the hopelessness and despair in the air is real, and that is exactly what drives these agitations. The rich and comfortable (even if they aren't happy with things) wouldn't necessarily want to risk their comfort, but the people at the bottom who have nothing to lose would give it their all cos it's a do-or-die affair; and they cling on to anything which remotely sounds/looks like 'hope'. Even in the north, a lot of misguided youths based on weird religious messages embraced bokoharam in the same belief that it would liberate them, they believed western education and existence of Christians is the reason behind their squalor. Now down south, we now have the people calling for secession believing another weird message that their co-existence with neighbours of a different tribe is responsible for their squalor. And the agitations continue, but are they really facing the real enemies?