₦airaland Forum

Freedom4us:
Adeboye please consider Christians being murdered by Buhari that you made us vote for.

https://i.imgur.com/xL3mnk2.png
http://saharareporters.com/2014/12/17/buhari-calls-pastor-adeboye-seek-his-blessing-announcing-osinbajo-running-mate


The Building of roads are not priority, but the state of Christianity in the nation .
You gave Buhari ur blessings by giving him ur pastor
and Christianity now being wiped out

Biko who is this frustrated Jonathanian that keeps posting this rubbish all over nairaland since today?... una no dey ever recover from this election loss trauma?... wetin the pastor do you?... Its no longer buhari or apc or OBJ or amaechi or rochas, now the heat is in pastor Adeboye.

Very clear difference in lighting between both pictures.

AjiereTuwo:
If there exists such a person, he is bastard for denying his father land. How confused can one be that you will answer Adonye and claim to be Igbo, unless he is looking for a favor fron you...seems strange

Well, I would suppose there must be some Igbo ancestory somewhere else how do you explain the similarity in language? I totally do not understand the rationale of someone who speaks a language, or who in some cases, bears a similar name, but still feels infuriated when he/she is associated with the tribe.

NOETHNICITY:
The truth is that our southern leaders(govs and senators) somehow prefer the status quo, since they prefer our sentiments alws to alws be on edge. They way we ever so easily preyed on.

It's completely tiring that youths (even vastly educated and enlightened ones) cannot see this. Everyone just sits at home and cries endlessly about being oppressed or enslaved by northerners, dont we have leaders in the south?... What do our leaders do when they get to Abuja?

Abagworo:
You still don't get the point. Nobody should waste his time on such idiiots. The 1st military coup termed Igbo coup was spearheaded by Delta Igbos but led to killing of millions of Southeastern Igbos because our parents thought they were same people like some people of this generation still do. His action of naming a dog Buhari was seen as Igbo action instead of his unknown tribe's action and whatever violence that would have arisen would be between Igbo and Islamic people of 8 countries.

Asaba, Ogwashi etc. have committed Igbos but anybody who is not Igbo by heart and wants to create enmity for us is our enemy and Chinakwe is an enemy of Ndigbo.

Like I said before, his tribe has nothing to do with this topic. The point being made here is that he's a southerner and the author of the article insinuates a north vs south issue; his tribe here is irrelevant, he could as well be Isoko or Bini or Ibibio. All I am trying to say is that as long as southern leaders would not look out for the welfare of southerners and as long as northern leaders and elite continue to watch the backs of their own, it would continue to erroneously seem like the northerners are first class citizens of Nigeria and my point is that the fault isnt a fault of northerners. That is what this thread is about.

AjiereTuwo:
These people of whom you speak are not Ibani people, no Ibani man will ever claim to be Igbo, we Ibani people have a language called Ibani egere, thats why you never see an Opobian bearing igbo names, the lga chairman of Opobo is Adonye diri( is this an Igbo name), Dakuku peterside atedo peterside adasa cookey these are all Ibani names so i find it quite wrong dat dese ppl will still claim Igbo while bearing Ibani names in an Ibani community with an Ibani king

Well like I said, I was only just relaying my experience from an Opobian. Incidentally his name is also Adonye, he speaks Igbo fluently and when asked, he says he is; so who am I really to doubt or challenge him.

Unfortunately, since GEJ's election loss, IPOB and their cohorts have set this motion several decades backward. They were even calling on Igbo governors to resign recently. The Ipob activists who have misled the typical Igbo youth today to 'openly' insult every other tribe or dissenting voice present the biggest setback to the possibility of an Igbo presidency. With the free flow of insults and hatred since 2015 till date, it would be a daunting task to get other tribes (even from the Niger Delta) to actually trust or support an Igbo candidate. If only more mature Igbos would speak up and silence the folly of these silly groups.

A leadership position like the presidency is hardly ever GIVEN like many expect, it is usually TAKEN. To take the presidency (especially under a democracy), it requires lots of wisdom, SUPERIOR politicking, strong focus and patience. It also requires a lot of building of bridges and alliances (not destroying as is the norm lately, thanks to GEJ election loss and Ipob). Unfortunately the crop of Igbo politicians we have in Nigeria today totally lack these qualities, most of them only focus on short term personal gains and simply go where their personal bread will be buttered.

A case study is Peter Obi who after his stellar performance in Anambara should have remained in APGA as a God father of south eastern politics. If only Obi remained in APGA and plotted the take over of the rest of the SE, after which he would begin to push apga on the national stage. But what did we get instead?... Short term personal interests pushed him to leave apga to a sinking PDP as soon as he stepped down. Now one of the potential Igbo candidates remains politically baseless even as he strolls along empty streets in Lagos; Okwute why?!

Meanwhile Rochas didnt even have Obi's kind of patience, the speed with which he rushed to prematurely dump Apga when he foresaw the rise of ApC is another typical case of chasing personal before collective interests.

AjiereTuwo:
Opobo hasnt ever accepted being Igbo, opubo ama that is part of Ijaw youth congress, so stop peddling these lies without evidence. I wonder why Igbos twist history this much. A town that has an Amanyanabo and bears Ibani Ijaw names suddenly becomes Igbo because of nairaland biafra bigots

Well, I dont know about Opobo town coming together to collectively proclaim their ethnic roots. You can check my history, I am not a biafran bigot or whatever you call it, I just spoke purely out of my personal experience based on my personal encounter. I have 2 friends from Opobo and with their own mouths, they said they were Igbos and they speak Igbo. I also have a friend from Bonny who speaks Igbo fluently claims to be Igbo sometimes but other times, just states that he's a Bonny man. If they say it with their own mouth, who am I to oppose them?

APCHaram:
Times are hard because I never thought Nigerians can be so stupid.

As for me and my family we have prepared long before May 29 for the inevitable.

Enjoy your famine.

Boy you are just another pained jonathanian who has refused to recover from election loss trauma... shift go one side abeg.

APCHaram:
Nonsense rubbish.

I posted on your useless APC wanting to restart the ECA that your useless wizards and witches forced GEJ to shut down.

Every other silly distraction you are posting remains invalid and not worth my time.

So please kindly take your cheap derailing and shove it

You totally lack simple decorum, I shouldn't be expecting common sense.

APCHaram:
You jobless tout get job?

Nigga pleaaaaaaase!

I'm sure you are describing you father there?

Accept my sympathy, I know times are hard.

Yyeske:
Why wasting your time educating those wailers who know the truth but would always look for who to blame because their hero was kicked out

Haha.. i'm having a chilled day in the office so I just like having fun making these empty vessels expose their emptiness.

APCHaram:
Ignore that fool.

He is only decieving himself and the rest die hard zombie fools

Counter a single fact I said with superior facts IF YOU CAN. It is not enough to stand by the corner throwing abusive words like 'fool, zombie' etc out of the abundance of your heart. Is that the limit of your intellects?

OLADD:
Not quite surprising. There's none of your posts that doesn't have element of deceit and vagueness. Only a warped mind will not attest to the roles Ameachi and the APC governors played in killing the ECA through propaganda and kangaroo court injunctions and I am sure you know the truth but choose to blindly support your evil party.

Besides, if you're looking for where GEJ invested the 51% FG share, pick your phone and google the numerous landmark projects left behind for Buhari's incompetent govt. The railway gauges (shamelessly launched by Buhari and Ameachi) are just some of them.

Hahaha.. Very very lame attempt at passing blame for a monumental failure of leadership on the path of GEJ. Amaechi has suddenly become 36 governors, Amaechi spoke up and the remaining over 25 PDP governors were all deaf and dumb, Amaechi made unilateral decisions right?.... Amaechi also took OBJ to court right?... This same Amaechi also took Yaradua to court right?... So can you please tell us why GEJ was the only person who yielded?

Oh now you agree GEJ spent 51% of the funds on LANDMARK projects?.. So if you agree GEJ spent the money, which money was he intending to save?... Was he intending to save only the portion of the funds belonging to States while he squandered the remaining on ghost LANDMARK projects?

Abuja to Kaduna rail cost $874 million, that's roughly about N139 billion (at prevailing exchange rate of N160 to $1 at the time). Out of that $874m, the Chinese Exim bank supplied $500million while FG supplied $374million (~N60billion). May I also remind you that out of this N60 billion, Buhari's government even paid off about N17 billion being the final balance of the counterpart funds to get the project sealed and commissioned and Buhari's government is presently servicing the loan ($500m) to the Chinese. But you obviously don't think the present govt deserves even a tiny honour for that job. Now that isn't the case, the real case is, besides this N60billion Abuja to Kaduna rail, what are these landmark projects that gulped 51% (about $10billion) of the ECA funds which you claimed Amaechi made GEJ to spend?

blues20:
Southern unity is inevitable judging by current events.

Absolutely true... The only upper hand the north has had over the south is their ability to put their differences aside when it matters to speak with one voice; something the south has never been able to do since 1960.

Abagworo:
The Chinakwe man is a useless idiiot. He speaks Igbo and has Igbo names but has been busy all his life denying his ethnucity. I wish Police didn't save him so that we have one less of the people that created hatred for Igbos and deny us afterwards.

Bro, Chinakwe's tribe or his decision to be termed Deltan or Anioma instead of Igbo doesn't really have any bearing on this case. The point I tried to stress on this thread is that Hausas are like sacred cows simply because their leaders treat them as such when it involves a case with non-hausas. I am sick and tired of hearing this age long nonsense of Hausas being treated like first class citizens while others are not. Whose fault is it that Hausa leaders care about their people while non-hausa leaders (especially southerners) don't?

The other day the paedophile Yinusa was granted bail and the poor abokii boy was flown first class back to Kano on sponsorship of a northern elite (he probably has never been on a plane in his life). The other day hausa miscreants who were arrested in Lagos following a rampage were all bailed and given stipends by senator kwankwaso. But here we are today, Chinakwe a Delta man who hasn't committed any crime is being detained for a silly case of 'provocation' but not a single leader or elite from his region thinks they should step in. Then we come online and see supposedly educated southerners wailing and gnashing their teeth about how Hausas are treated like kings and instead of directing this anger to the southern leaders, they choose to throw insults at the north for being responsible to their citizens.

Apparently down south, our leaders never fight for the people, rather it is the people who foolishly fight for the personal interests of the leaders whenever they are embroiled in one corruption case or the other.

RedTarantula:
I meant to say that the senator that came to meet the police on their behalf i.e. kwankwaso is hausa fulani.

I never meant ambode please.

Okay noted... But then are you insinuating that if senator Nwaoboshi who represents Chinakwe goes to a police commissioner, or even calls the commissioner that he would be ignored?... That is exactly what I'm pointing out here.

Another wailing thread devoid of common sense... A non-existent APC made up 36 governors as at 2010 I believe. In fact the same non-existent APC also took OBJ to court as far back as 2005/2006, they also took Yaradua to court in 2007/2008 and within months of GEJ getting to power in 2010, GEJ instantly started dipping his hands into the ECA and sharing the cash for his 2011 election. After distributing 49% of the total ECA cash, the same APC guys also charmed GEJ into swallowing the over 51% which was FG's share. Wonderful logic from wailing twerps! ... and these are the bunkums that accuse APC of passing only blames.

khSteel:
The fact that Sen Kwankwaso has to come down to Lagos to release his "brother" shouldn't be a justification for evil.

Chinakwe's so-called HOR/Governor, etc. need not get involved in this matter b4 the state apparatus will perform its responsibilities appropriately. BTW, all these talks about governor/HOR are secondary and simply unnecessary.

The primary issue here is why would the state (police) deprive its citizen of its right to freedom just because some violet-prone people feel bad about a citizen's right to freedom.

At what point do we as a people put a stop to all these nonsense?
Among all the people that insulted GEJ/Obama/Trump, can you show us anyone that has been arrested just because the supporters of these politicians felt/feel bad about all the uncountable insults heaped on GEJ/Obama/Trump.

The impunity will stop at the very moment when leaders from the south begin to live up to their responsibilities of protecting the interest of their people.

RedTarantula:
You think the police released those hausa miscreants juts because their governor came around?

They were relased because the said governor is hausa/fulani.

That is the diference.

Even Wole Soyinka has said that in Nigeria today the hausa/fulani are first class citizens, others are just there.

It is called mental slavery; you and most other southerners are presently entrapped in this mental slavery of believing the northerners are first class. From the example I gave, I don't know what you're all about by saying the governor of Lagos is Hausa/fulani, when did governor Ambode of Lagos become Hausa/Fulani?

The only reason the police would release northern suspects is because their leaders normally intervene; senator Kwankwaso came down from Kano to Lagos to release hausa suspects in Lagos. If Okowa sends just a simple text message today, Chinakwe would be released instantly; likewise if Senator Nwaoboshi makes a call today, Chinakwe would be instantly released and that case would die a natural death. But NO! southerners don't do that, we sit in our homes and lament how we are being enslaved by northerners; we would rather run online and lament and weep and wail at how the northerners are winning on all fronts because of their unity.

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Umuoma

Na we dey do ourselves. It is also up to us to undo what we're doing to ourselves as a race. You cant blame google for this; if I'm walking in a secluded dark street in London at Night and I see 3 black teenagers on the left and 3 white teenagers on the right, my instincts would instruct me to edge towards the right side of the road.

Icecomrade:

2016 Budget was just a scam.

Think about it,

When was 2016 budget passed?

What percentage of the Budget has the government implanted so far? 10%, 20%? 30%?

How many more months do we have before 2017?

And they are talking about 2017 budget.
I don't care if you support APC government of not, the equation below summarizes them
APC= SCAM

2016 budget runs till May 2017; show me a PDP budget?

Opobo is an Igbo speaking town, don't know about their history or origins but I have a couple of friend from there who openly agree they are Igbo. From my observation, they are the only Rivers Igbo speaking people 'I know personally' who accept they are Igbo. However, I'm just wondering what Opobo being Igbo has to do with the topic; have they declared for Biafra?

Since the history of Nigeria, no community has ever known peace when the military visits. Whenever the Nigerian military visits to enforce peace, they usually enforce a tsunami; from Odi to Odioma to Zaki-Biam to Borno to Warri to Gbaramatu. I don't envy those boko haram infested communities in the north east cos for every single bokoharam member killed by the military, the military also extra-judiciously kills 10 innocent people. I don't also envy those communities in the ND presently occupied by soldiers.

A recurring situation situation which makes me wonder whether Nigerians never learn is the way unaffected people go around generalising and accusing the elders/people of these communities of supporting criminals whenever the elders complain of the harassment/killings of the innocent by untrained military forces. It happened in Borno, till date a lot of unaffected southerners still accuse even Buhari of supporting bokoharam when he called for the military to be more professional. Now the exact same thing is happening in the delta creeks and again, unaffected people are sitting comfy in their homes accusing elders of supporting the militants.

helovesme:
There was disparity. The only major difference between then and now is the current high exchange rate and the unavailability of forex.

Even during his era, sometimes one had to visit multiple branches/banks just to get PTA.

The disparity was never up to N5, it was typically around N2, and that was not only insignificant, it is also inevitable. So in summary, it was never an issue before 2015 when we started having large disparities.

dorox:
Actually, the naira was freely floated under Jonathan' administration, it was Buhari that reintroduced currency subsidy.

Biko when was naira freely floated under Jonathan?. .. Na wa oo!

amazingspiderma:
Nigeria cannot overcome corruption overnight, but this government is a combination of both corruption and ignorance.
PMB = economic paralysis.
Soon Sanusi will start to criticize the minister of finance.






Why do I get the feeling that Sanusi found his voice after the recent incident in Kano.
He saw this happening since last year, but he kept mute. Seem like he is not immune after all and the expected share of money is not flowing as expected.
Anyway let him wail alone. The 5% are done wailing, it is now the turn of the 97%.
As far as I am concern Sanusi is looking for a safety net for 2019, the APC 2015 Titanic is sinking fast everyone is preparing to abort ship.

What do you mean by "SLS has found his voice" or that "he kept mute since"?

Sanusi said exactly this same thing continuously since last year. He was about the first person and the loudest voice calling on the government to scrap the pegging of exchange rate from day 1. Regarding subsidy back then, SLS was also the mastermind of the subsidy removal under Gej and there are still numerous reports and youtube videos to prove that. Do yourself a favour by educating yourself via google instead of spewing these upside down theories you are spewing.

helovesme:
You are bang on the money.

It was exactly the same mess when he was cbn governor and I do not remember him doing anything to stop the parallel rates mess.

Can you kindly explain how it was EXACTLY the same under him?

Cos I dont remember the Naira having any significant disparity between official and black market prior to 2015.

Hayjaycity:
OP.. Your English is catastrophic.... I'd can bring this thread down in minutes..

Yours already put the thread in coma.