deniyor:


How many stupid decisions a 17 year old makes is no excuse to take advantage of her. Pedophilia! You think the guy isn't going to sleep with her? stop kidding yourself.

Truly reasoning like a crazy woman. So her boyfriends are not taking advantage of her its a husband that is?

Upside down reasoning.

deniyor:
I can't believe people think this is okay. Usually a 10 year gap may be nothing, but it doesn't count when a teenager is involved. You are just taking advantage of a young child. What the hell does a 17 year old know about life. OP stop being a child molester. Go for someone more mature.

If a 17 year old can have four boyfriends she sleeps with in Nigeria, why can't she have one husband who isn't even sleeping with her until she is of legal age and marries her?

Can someone answer:

If a 17 year old can have one to four boyfriends in Nigeria, why can't she have one husband?

ZUBY77:



Haven't you seen any of my books?

Well, start from here. Thank me later.

https://www.nairaland.com/1333913/there-back-time-nairaland-best

Nice. Reviewing it now.

Can someone answer:

If a 17 year old can have four boyfriends in Nigeria, why can't she have one husband?

ZUBY77:



Talk about what?

Well I think you should consider writing an article of some sort. Girls of nowadays need to be evangelised this truth. I see so many of them making the same mistakes and thinking interest will last for ever until they hit 30 and get desperate.

No need for bbm though.

ZUBY77:


If you know how old your mother was when she got married, you will know that a 17 year old girl is already getting old.
If my woman is not anywhere 10 years younger than me, she ain't coming near my house to live as wife.
My age mates in girls married years before I started making money. Why didn't they wait for me?

How old is Oshiomole and Lara?
Or are we pardoning them because the Edo State money is involved?
Or are part of the theory of "she is matured to make her choice"?
What is the difference between 17years and 11 months girl and an 18 year old girl?

I look and laugh when toads come here to shout "17 years old is too young".

Too young to do what exactly?
If a 17 year old can have four boyfriends in Nigeria, why can't she have one husband?

Go ahead and do your thing
There are a million black 17 year old girls in Europe, standing in the streets as prostitutes.

Classic. Please what is ur bbm pin let's talk.

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood but against principalities against powers and against spiritual wickedness in high places.

The desires r not from yourselves.

You or your friend needs deliverance could take 3 months to 1 year.

Rush to ur nearest Mountain of Fire and Miracles and make appointment with the pastor.

Sagamite:


One would have assumed that by using the term "exception" and stating what happens to "most" you would have clicked that it was already stated to her that it is not the norm and only if she was lucky.


Arami92, more details for you from the catalogue of old posts.

https://www.nairaland.com/1204511/what-reasons-high-level-30/9#14566107

sagamite i do apologize i didnt read ur post properly. ur post was spot on too!

.

Arami92:


So question,

I'm a 23 year old woman... I very much desire to be married one day. Even now at this age my heart yearns to meet that special someone. BUT...my parents and many others keep advising me that now is not the time for love..that I should focus on my career, make sure I'm successful and independent so that I never end up depending on any man...I've heard many say that men want women who are assets not liabilities! So with that advice the options I have is to put chasing love on hold and chase a career, most good careers take much time and dedication. So the average woman who wants to be a ceo,medical doctor, phd holder, lawyer, etc..won't have arrived to her destination until about 30...so now these same women are being punished?! What am I to do..how do you ensure success in your career and still have a successful marriage.
It's like woman are in. Double bind, we are encouraged to be strong independent successful and self reliant while we are young, only to be punished for it later..while men who are encouraged to do the same reap benefits from waiting and establishing themselves before settling down...

I essentially have two groups of friends. My single and driven girls! Who are working very hard to make something of themselves..and my not so driven girls who are dating..many of them living with their boyfriends and mainly supporting His dream hoping he will finally pop the question..

Where is the middle ground??

Please dont pay any attention to the post showing you an older girl looking good. that girl was just lucky oh, you may not hv that kind of luck...

The fundamental mistake most people make in Nigeria is to believe in formalized marriage, if two ppl were to get together and pray to their God to bless their union, they are married. period. no big weddings, nothing like that. most ppl dont know wat marriage is.

Now being 23, you can meet a "boyfriend" and commit to each other. You are actually a couple when you do that you dont need to hold a ceremony. All you need is your union to be recognized by your deity.

You can continue your medical or law school or high flying career with this person supporting you. that marriage and career have to be mutually exclusive is a doctrine of demons! God made a help meet for adam not someone to help him when he was already there. You can help each other out.

The issue with waiting until girls are 30 is they r competing with younger girls; anybody that tells u older is better is deceiving you. with good searching you will find younger girls that embody the so called maturity of older girls.

so you catch the drift?

be responsible for yourself, pray then put yourself out there. Your man is there to support you and your career not to hinder it as is most often portrayed.

You get married unoficcially at 23, the kids can come in when you are 28! It doesnt hv to be immediately.

hope this helps you.

Things are consolidating.

i just highlighted the solution.

okay guys, let me sum it all up:

1. Realistically man must release sperm. Marriage in Nigeria is generally done at ages when libido is dying down. So what is a guy to do before then. I think a boyfriend and a gf can have sex if their union is blessed by a pastor ()the blessings, prayer, vow and acceptance before God is the actual marriage). Marriage is free. It saves the excuse for promiscuity that I dont have enough money to settle down.

2. Masturbation with imagining people is an imagination. The bible speaks of wicked imaginations. Masturbation with images of multiple women for example is a WICKED IMAGINATION AND IS A SIN!!! Let the Holy Spirit guide you. For me, I think masturbation without any imagination attached to it is okay (but for most ppl they do it with images of ppl) but none the less, compulsive masturbation has a spirit behind it that must be fought in Jesus name. Pray in this manner:

"Thou dark spirit of masturbation in my life, be consumed by the same Holy Ghost fire that Elijah called upon in Jesus name. "
"This mountain of masturbation in my life that is unnatural and compulsive, be thou removed and cast into the sea in Jesus name" for the Bible says that if you shall say unto this mountain, be thou removed and cast into the sea, and doubteth not, but believeth that that which thou sayest shall come to pass, you shall have whatsoever you say.

Many times you may masturbate again and a voice says: "you see, you were not really set free". Declare that He that the son has set free is free indeed as is written in the Bible. Praise God for the victory he has given you!!! Believe God and never doubt even if it comes back, ultimately, it will yield to the word of God.

God is aware of conji

1 Corinthians 7:1-7

5 Defraud ye not one the other, except it be with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency.

Defraud includes defrauding each other of sex.

incontinency means natural urges that will run over if not met eg urinating and conji.

The key is the guys should get a girl, pray and marry the girl and have a pastor bless the union in your living room no need for big wedding.

this is one component but there is one more. it is the issue of no sex before marriage. Let me put it this way. In todays world, my view on NO SEX BEFORE MARRIAGE: In the olden days, girls married between 18 and 22, now many wait till 35. Guys wait till 35 on average. conji go de hook boys boys go de suffer all in the name of religion.

then na after the boyfriends don enjoy the babes finish when they young and vital you go come de rejoice say you don marry some girl.

the best thing to do is get a partner of choice even if you are not ready to officially marry... commit to each other and pray to ur deity in your living room/ wherever to bless your union. thats it. go fucking like no tomorrow!!!

It is better to do this than to be a 19 year old prostitute or a 21 year old harlot all in the name of waiting for marriage before sex. most guys dont hv money to marry young; it is better to do this than to marry old and be sleeping with prostitutes in the mean time.

to me marriage is a prayer not a ceremony.

then wen you ready for the official bit, do it.

good decent ladies would hv had slut like tendencies we men cherish if it wasnt for them taking religion overboard. they need to understand that edgy sexuality is ok.

efficiencie:



If Mr Obalende were God I wonder how he would judge mankind - past, present and future! If TB Joshua is satanic, then Daniel Olukoya, Joshua Iginla, Joseph Babalola, S K Abiara, Benson Idahosa, Chris Okafor, Johnson Suleiman and the host of others past and present would be hardcore satanists as well!

You said his goal is vague, i wonder what you mean by vague. Is it not written:
2Corinthians 5:17 Therefore if any man be in Christ , he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

Is that not a scriptural basis for the so called 'vague' goal!?

You say that TB Joshua says 'in the name of Jesus' after the healing has taken place by demonic means...funny!!! Is it not written:

Philippians 2:9
Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

If miracles by the hand of TB Joshua are demonic, then the mention of the name Jesus should nullify it and not corroborate it! I sometimes wonder how some christians think!

I wonder what a proper praise or worship song means to you. Hannah worshipped God, yet in her 10 verse worship she referred to the Father as Lord and God (1 Samuel 2:1-10)...and remember not everyone singing praises to Jesus, with the name Jesus obviously used, are really praising him, Jesus himself said:
Matthew 15:8
This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.

Well unless you are hallucinating, no SCOAN video shows pictures of Jesus and Mary as a reference to deified entities...that must be worshipped! Thou shalt not bear false witness (Exodus 20:16)

Is Jesus not the One that heals, delivers and saves!? Do you know of any other!? Is God not referred to as the mighty One of Jacob!?
Isaiah 49:26
And I will feed them that oppress thee with their own flesh; and they shall be drunken with their own blood, as with sweet wine: and all flesh shall know that I the LORD am thy Saviour and thy Redeemer, the mighty One of Jacob.

Is it not common place for men of God all over the world to use phrases like: ''under influence of my voice'', ''under the sound of my voice'', ''under the influence of this telecast''? So what makes the use of that statement: ''influence of this program'' suggest demonism!?

You say you felt serious oppression from evil spirits after watching Emmanuel TV. Is that not an indictment of your stand and authority in Christ. Is not written:
Isaiah 49:26
And I will feed them that oppress thee with their own flesh; and they shall be drunken with their own blood, as with sweet wine: and all flesh shall know that I the LORD am thy Saviour and thy Redeemer, the mighty One of Jacob.

If you were oppressed by evil spirits from Emmanuel TV are you not meant to direct the oppression back to TB Joshua by ordering him to eat his flesh and drink his own blood and by so doing prove your stance as a son of God!? Powerless christians showing a form of godliness but denying the power thereof (2 Timothy 3:5)

Did you call the prophets into the ministry? Are they answerable to you? Are you the Lord of the prophets? It is written:
1Corinthians 14:32
And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets.
A prophet is at liberty to prophesy in the manner he chooses as he is led and he's answerable to God shall who try the works of his servants (1 Corinthians 3:13). What did the Lord tell prophet Ezekiel in Ezekiel 3:16-21? You need to read it for yourself. It better to be warned of impending danger than to be given news of good tidings because a surprise of good tidings won't scratch you but a surprise of danger will destroy you and may despatch you to hell. It is better to be in the house of mourning than to be in the place of merriment (Ecclesiastes 7:2)

Yes God is not limited by space and time but people like you who sow discord among the brethren are an abomination to God for it is written:
Proverbs 6:16
These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

stop propagating works of darkness of TB Joshua. Judgement is coming.

jcross19:
may God show you mercy

Confront the facts instead of arousing emotional sentiments.

saasala:


Am telling you bro, Marriage is just bullshit, run away from it.

its bullshit abeg. first most of the girls r no longer hot/ second most of them hv bn around too many times third they r very likely to cheat, nag and b unreliable fourth what a woman can do a hired Personal Support Worker can do.

If the woman is young, sexually active, fears God, has a good character and is a good girl, it might be worth it. Otherwise NO!

jcross19:
google benny hinn and see the result , check his marital life and come back tell me what you find out. First in your post discovered you are trying to condemn one man and elevate one why? Were you paid for this? Who gave you authority to condemn or judge? Are you the spirit of truth sent to judge? Are you God? Infact you need to visit deliverance section for spiritual cleansing .

A word is enough for the wise continue to visit SCOAN at your own peril.

Let TB Joshua come on TV and say:

"I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. I believe He is God. I believe He died for my sins and on the third day He rose again from the dead and is seated at the right hand of God the Father"

Let him make the full statement personally then I will believe him.But he has NEVER done so or he just makes statements of parts thereof. He needs to make the full statement and he systematically avoids it during his services.

Yes I am condemning TB Joshua because he is of the devil. It amazes me how people out of fear cannot condemn glaring satanism. He has been banned from visiting and conducting services in Cameroon. http://pmnewsnigeria.com/2010/09/30/cameroon-blacklists-t-b-joshua/

that is not a very good excuse i.e. he only attended primary school.

He is one of the richest men in Nigeria and he can express himself.

moreover, saying IN JESUS NAME the healing has taken place has nothin to do with level of education and the overall way the service is conducted has nothing to do with level of education...

CHARLYX9:
obalende dis ur name sounds like an hospital in my street is ur fada the own.just joking.lol
from my thinking i would say that is ur observation and nt a discernment.if u wana understand what i mean by discernment chk out "bempa oswosu" on google he spoke against tb joshua saying that whenever he preaches he does it on his feet that means he is saying that tb joshua doesnt put on shoes bt either he's barefooted while we all see him wearing shoe on tv(thats discernment) but urs is jst mere observation and u said benny hinn is a servant of God of course he was b4 nt anylonga if u weigh his doctrines and read his books wit discernment u wud observe jst that e.g he said there are 9 persons in one God(trinity) while in the bible there are only three(1john5: u cn still google up mre of his doctrines and teaching and cn u belive the same benny hinn recommended tb joshua in an article and a video even obama's step-mother commended him.chk it out here:
http://globalpreachers.tv/video/966/keep-watching-emmanuel-tv-stepmother-of-us-president-barrack-obama-bernice-king-scoan/
https://distanceisnotabarrier./2009/11/19/benny-hinn-on-emmanuel-tv/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCkYoNwXITs
so judge this for urself and what is pastor chris always looking for in tb joshua's church and sm oda men of God in quote.thank me later

Stop confusing yourself. Seems you need deliverance from spirit of religion & doctrines of demons.

Mine is not an observation. It too is a discernment. Just looking at the man, I can tell something isnt right. This is discernment.

But I have also provided observations. Neither my observations nor the discernment can be said to be wrong though.

part of the issue is the decimation of marriage and its benefits in nigeria.

They should have examined their sexual compatibility b4 marriage. Yes no sex b4 marriage but he couldhv asked her if shes into BJs... all it takes is just asking. Yet everything is branded as evil under religion so ppl wont even ask.

otiigba1:
please tell them, ignorance is an illness, some nigerians see changes as END TIME while the world has moved on with changes, perhaps they should give up their iphones and computers as those are also ENDTIME things

They are indeed end time things.... Canada & USA now require taxation of worldwide income so if you live in USA but have assets in UK, Brazil, Saudi Arabia and Nigeria, the USA IRS requires you to pay tax on those even though it has nothing to do with the USA!

This is not progress. What is progressive about it. It is One World Government.

SCOA statement of Faith

http://www.scoan.org/about/statement-of-faith/

"Jesus Christ is a soul-winner. That is what He came for, lived for, died for and rose again for. He came to restore the relationship and fellowship between God and man. As to His human nature, Jesus Christ was a descendant of David. As to His divine nature, He was shown with great power to be the Son of God by being raised from death on the third day. Now He sits at the right hand of the throne of God (Hebrews 12:2; Romans 1:2-4). He was at all points tempted just as we are, yet was without sin. Jesus Christ loves us, died for us, reigns in power for us and still prays for us."

Thoughout the statement of faith, he never directly said Jesus is the Son of God. They are not allowed to say this, But it is deceitfully laid out with confusing text. "He was shown with great power to be the Son of God" does not actually mean TB JOSHUA and his ministry is personally confessing Jesus is the Son of God. He was simply shown to be the Son of God.

Now compare http://www.bennyhinn.org/faith-statement/

"We Believe:

That man was created good and upright, for God said “Let us make man in our image, after our likeness.” But man, by voluntary transgression, fell, and[b] his only hope of redemption is in Jesus Christ the Son of God[/b]"

You see here a statement is made Jesus is the Son of God. For Joshua, he was shown to be the Son of God and adds "with great power" to confuse people.

Do not be deceived. false christs and prophets shall arise in the last days. he is definitely of the devil. did they send you? Go back to them and tell them the truth will prevail.

I am writing this and will keep it very simple. I have often heard about this man so I took about 1 hour to review his website and watch one of his video programs.

1. The goal of the ministry is to: "To get people into Jesus and get them to stay there." http://emmanuel.tv/about
The devil is the father of lies and his children act the same. The agents of the devil are not permitted to glorify Jesus or to preach salvation and regeneration of the spirit. That is why this statement of faith is vague and does not really mean anything. What does it mean to put people into Jesus?

2. Demonic Healings: "in Jesus name" is mentioned AFTER the demonic healing has taken place so it is not really done in Jesus name. If in doubt take time to view the videos on his site and observe.

3. Never Sing Any Proper Gospel Songs that glorifies Jesus. The satanists know that praises to Jehovah causes trouble in the spirit realm, so in his services they never sing real praise songs like "All Hail the Power of Jesus Name", they just sing songs with "God" mentioned in a generic way.

4. Idolatry: the videos show images of Jesus (idolatry)/ Mary etc.

5. Doctrines of demons - this man is very smart. He always says the One who delivers (that one could be evil spirits - remember its all about deception), who heals etc or says in Jesus Name when it doesnt matter. Amen then afterwards says: "Thank you Lord" (this is deception, that Lord is not Jesus)

6. While praying for the viewers at home he says: "stretch your hands let us pray for those under the influence of this program" - interestingly this is revealing - those who are captivated by him are under demonic influence!!! Why not those under the Holy Ghost anointing of this service - why those under the influence of this program?

7. I felt serious oppression in my spirit from evil spirits just watching the TV broadcast on Emmanuel TV. I need to reanoint my home now.

8. This could also explain why his prophecies are never about anything good. Jesus came to bring good news. Yes certain times bad news needed to be brought by a prophet but no true prophet recorded in the Bible perpetually brought bad news. Prophets are meant to edify and build up.

I ask if you are looking for healing, God is not limited by time or space. A minister of God can heal you right in Africa.

Benny Hinn is a true servant of God! Please tune into his website and Jehovah will heal you - his healing transcends time and space - www.bennyhinn.org He is a true servant of the Most High God. And more importantly, pray the salvation prayer on the website and be truly saved.

Marriage isn't to young girls. Its mostly to older girls. Me I love young virgins so there's an issue.

greggles:


We can compete with foreign products, just like the webhost companies are competing with foreign webhosts, all we need is investment to bring down our cost of production and service delivery. When it comes to IT, the only major difference would be cost, with the infrastructure in place, it would be a level play ground. Have you forgotten that rice was being heavily imported? Even eggs and chicken, turkey were also being heavily imported before government invested heavily on startups to produce these things massively, which even brought down the cost of these products

you are right greggles. and then nigerians need a mass healing from inferiority complex and learn to start choosing made in nigeria products.

greggles:


Wow you really sound so harsh to startups. Don't forget the co-owner of whatsapp migrated from ukraine to the US as it didn't work out for him over there, he looked for jobs at facebook and google but was turned down, he said he once lived on food stamps, he got the environment he needed and the support and that's how he succeeded. Where its hard to get funding, policies are not favourable, environment is harsh on startups etc, only 2% or less of those who work hard will succeed because that's the much such environment can cater for. The people you see succeeding in Nigeria without help are like the 0.1% that nature have endowed with favour, the rest (2%) are those who the slacking economy will be able to support, I believe government can at least help by providing credit to IT startups the way they're doing for agriculturists. If really growth and success does not depend on support, why then is the government investing on agriculture? Why not leave everyone to succeed on their own just like that? Please understand that we need support to develop our sector of chosen career which is very important in developing this country

so the naija start up gets a good environemt, loans and creates the product. how do you deal with the preference given to foreign products?

greggles:


But government policies can help, for instance, in developed countries, buying something online could get you tax reduction than buying at the store, so people shop online and pick up at store to reduce tax, and companies go online to make more sales etc, just an example

Nigerians are too quick to blame the government. yes government policies can help but its not required and should not be an excuse for lack of success.