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Obiagu1: We lost our capital and control of our politics and economy

Exactly what control did "we" lose?

tpia@:
and whose fault is that?

Take a guess.

The sad part was that we weren't even aware of all this. We all existed in our micro-states while the British cartographers decided our fates.

Even amid all of this quarreling and back and forth arguing, I see something in this thread. This thread is a perfect example of the cultural and societal differences between African Americans and Africans.

From reading these pages, I've gained an insight into the perspectives of two different peoples on different sides of the world. Personally, I've observed the misconceptions about poverty, ethnic issues, and the general culture of Africa as well as those pertaining to the New World. Take something as simple as football (American soccer) for example; both sides called the sport different names and presented their unique perspectives.

I think that discussions like this (save the insults and trolling) do a good part in melting hardened barriers. Just like Mrs Chima (), I have also learned many things just from reading this thread.

Does anyone else think so?

achi4u: nwanna agha di everywhere mana udu do.
@maria,
infact ighotara ebe ano.
jisieike nneoma.

Agha kwa? Kedu ebe o bu?

ikekings: Upon say i get igbo A1 i no dey understand some of the igbo for this thread.....

Kedu ka i mere? I bu onye Igbo?

Hmmm.

I blame those that didn't side with the anti-European groups in their area. If all of the states in the lower Niger area had united against the British, we wouldn't even be discussing this now.

We should've followed the Ethiopian example.

That's very dangerous.

As long as the prices are reasonable, people should be willing to pay for their electricity usage.

Anyway, culture >>> politics.

Igbo (Arochukwu dialect)

There are many ways to say good morning depending on who you are:

nnaawo - said to elders (if you are a child).

i bola? - said as a response to nnaawo. It can also be said to one's agemate.

i tesala? - also said as a response to nnaawo. Adults can use this to anyone (meaning those older than them, younger than them, and their agemates). Children can only use this amongst themselves.

On that note, ututu oma is not the proper way to say good morning in Igbo! It was constructed by people who wanted the Igbo language to mirror English.

Duxe: did i hear some1 say ibibio in abia state? Na wa o


@post..ibibio(akwa ibom): mmu ma fien
efik(calabar): mme ma fi

Yes you did. Arochukwu is on the Abia-Akwa Ibom-Cross River border. The Ibibio are only a stone throw away from us. We speak both Igbo and Ibibio/Efik.

Ibibio dictionary

http://www.scribd.com/mobile/doc/40183297/html5

Larrylarex: Ehn, which one we go con choose/use/believe now?

They are all dialects (regional variations) of the Igbo language, as Ileke explained.

Igbo (Arochukwu dialect, Arochukwu, Abia State)

M vuru gi n'anya / Avuru m gi n'anya

Ibibio (Ikpanja dialect, Arochukwu, Abia state)

Mme uma fien

Thanks for the cooperation everyone.

PAGAN 9JA:
i think you are tired of your MOD duties. can i take over??

Over my your dead body.

Let me just make a request from you guys.

Could it be possible if you guys stopped using profane words that are against the rules of this site? We moderators have lives too, lol; we can't be stuck monitoring discussions all day. It really makes everyone's life easier.

Thanks.

Okooo!

Ibini Ukpabi!

Has disunity killed the South so much that the North can now make such comments?

Faruk who also claimed that the North had a population of 120 million compared to only 50 million in the South said that the onshore/offshore issue was cheating the North.

boyendowed: People like Junaid Mohammed should be ignored

I hope so.

Hail Biafra.

Maria-Goretti:
nwanna, abukwam onye Anambra

Nsogbu adighi. Ndeewo. Ebe i no bu ama Igbo. O ndi Igbo nwe nairaland. Anyi zuru-ezu na-eme.

@achi4u

Keekwan? Nna, anyi na-ekele Chukwu. Kee ka Ebonyi di?

So you're in support of this?

Let me start by saying that it's not good to make generalizations on the 20 million or so Igbo males in this world based on the experiences you've had with two of them.

However, there are certain things universal to all Igbo (those raised with a proper cultural upbringing). One of those things is the belief in the "power of the right hand". The Igbo believe that one's destiny in this world is dependant upon the strength of his/her right hand (meaning personal ability). Therefore, some may choose not to accept help from others when attempting to solve their own problems because (generally) accepting help from another person can be seen as a sign of personal incapability.

Igbo males (and human males in general) can be very stubborn because once they set their mind on something, they endeavor to achieve it. In the general culture of the Igbo, the role of a woman [to a husband] is that of a supporter, manager, asset organizer, and etc. A woman's role is generally to encourage her husband and help him where she can. Because of this, Igbo males view themselves as the supporters of their wives/families and as the decision makers of their households.

Despite this, there's definitely no excuse for a man to beat a woman because those days are gone. What you should do is try to reassure any man (not only Igbo) that you're with that you are there to help and support him. But like I said earlier, what you experienced is not universal to all Igbo males.

Royal, this is the final warning I'm giving you regarding the posting of people's pictures. If you think that you can post trash by switching accounts, you're mistaken.

If you feel that you're time on Nairaland should come to an end, it can be arranged for all of your accounts.

A word is enough for the wise.

Otu nzuzo nke ndi mahadum juru eju na ala Bekee. Otutu ha na enyere mmadu aka inweta oru, kama ufodu ha na eme omume ndi amusi.

O nwere mgbe m nuru na ndi otu nzuzo nke ndi mahadum gburu mmadu na okporo-uzo na Enugu.

Football being called soccer.

https://i467.photobucket.com/albums/rr35/arcadefire325/facepalm.gif

Here you go Fulaman

fushia: Mzdarkskin, nigerian pidgin is an offshoot of the krio taken to nigeria by the yorubas, not the other way round.

Could you elaborate on this? I'm interested.

YButterfly, enough with the trolling.

~Royal~:
*Lets Delete Everything Royal Says so he does not Embarrass the Bigots and their primitive ways of computing Logic*


Lmfao The guy who writes the most calm legit question gets his post deleted while the ape Fula digs inside of his butt and Tosses Feces at woman yet the post remains...


LoL

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Igbo, ndaa?

M bu onye Arochukwu na Arochukwu LGA na ime Abia.

Andre Uweh: Na Isinweke anyi, enweghi he di ka nrim ji. Anyi na eme mmem-mme Mbom uzo (to mark the closing of a planting season and the beginning of another).
O wu otu odi ebeke anyi.

Eziokwu? O pusara na onwee ihe di 'New Yam Festival' na ali Isinweke? Ndaa mgbe inyi na emeje "Mbom uzo" inyi?

Personally, I don't believe these dubious figures at all. The populations of certain southern states were deflated in order to give certain northern states an advantage.

Besides, why is the guy saying "any attempt to deny the majority would result in anarchy"? Shouldn't such a statement be considered a threat?

In this situation, the best answer is to divide Nigeria and let everyone call it a day. That way, they can be the undisputed majority in their country(ies).

SOURCE: http://www.naijapundit.com/news/junaid-mohammed-north-is-the-majority-any-attempt-to-deny-us-our-right-will-lead-to-anarchy

Moves by the National Assembly to further amend the 1999 Constitution has  again  brought to the fore the sharp division and mutual distrust between the North and South, as both have taken opposing views on the entrenchment of the six geopolitical zones in the constitution.

The North said it represented 60 per cent of the country’s population, and therefore, would resist efforts to equate it with the South, which it claimed represented just 40 per cent of Nigeria.

It added that any attempt to deny the majority its position on the matter would lead to anarchy.

The Convener of Concerned Northern Politicians, Academics, Professionals and Businessmen, Dr. Juniad Mohammed, said these in an exclusive interview with one of our correspondents on Friday.

The Northern Governors Forum had similarly opposed the inclusion of geopolitical zones in the constitution, just as Arewa Consultative Forum scoffed at the suggestion.

Mohammed said, “When some people insist that 60 per cent of the population must be made equal with the remaining 40 per cent, I don’t understand it. In the last census in 2006, the North-West was 37 million, while Ohaneze’s South-East was 15 million. How do you equate the two of them?

“Democracy is a game of numbers. Any attempt to deny the majority would result in anarchy. From the records of the census that have been conducted in this country, it is obvious that the North constitutes at least 60 per cent of Nigeria’s population.

“They’ve been trying to do this since and now they want do it through the back door by putting it into the constitution. I say it will never happen. Geopolitical zones will never be accepted in the constitution no matter what it takes. North and South are not equal and we can never be equal,” he said.

The President-General, Chief Ralph Uwechue, however, said the current concept of six geopolitical zones was ethnically based, with three zones accorded to the larger ethnic groups while the three other zones were derived from smaller ethnic units.

He explained that this made for political balance and stability.

He said, “The simple lesson from this structural arrangement is that the ethnic units are recognised and accepted as the veritable building blocks in the ongoing construction work and nation-building process in Nigeria.

“We are now saying that the six geopolitical zones of today should inherit the same powers and responsibility the three zones had at that time.

“What it means is that these six zones will become the federating units of Nigeria and any other arrangement each region wants to make will be entirely left for the zones.”

“This is the best thing that can happen to this country right now.

“Our position is that we should have six regions coinciding with the current six geopolitical zones and having the same powers and responsibility as were given to the regions at independence.

“The difference is that instead of three regions at independence, we now have six regions.”

According to the Ohaneze chairman, the northern governor’s refusal to allow the inclusion of the zones in the constitution was a way of perpetuating the autocratic military distortion of the master plan, (political arrangement) which produced Nigeria in 1960.

He further said, “The terms they are kicking against are the terms of having Nigeria as a country, and these terms were arrived at after negotiations between political parties at the time.”

Similarly, the National Publicity Secretary, Afenifere Renewal Movement, Mr. Yinka Odumakin, said the geopolitical zones should be maintained, while power is decentralised.

He said, “In my opinion, the zones should stay. They should be strengthened to function as federating units in the new structure for Nigeria. They should be autonomous and manage the resources within their territories.”

Groups in the South-South angrily told media in separate interviews that the North was in the “habit of discouraging moves aimed at giving everyone in the country a sense of belonging.”

Such was the position of the Secretary of the Bayelsa State Elders’ Forum, Chief Thompson Okorotie.

He said, “If they are truly interested in the unity and indivisibility of this country, they would not be opposing any move to give a sense of belonging to all the sections of this country.

Okorotie, a former political adviser in the state the governor, therefore described the North’s stance as divisive,

“When they hold this kind of position, one begins to wonder what their agenda for Nigeria is,” he added.

He noted that the reason for the creation of the existing geopolitical zones was to promote unity by ensuring that all sections and ethnic groups were represented in all issues affecting the country.

On its part, the Ijaw National Congress said the North was promoting “disunity and selfishness” by rejecting the inclusion of geopolitical zones.

Its National President, Mr. Joshua Benameisigha, said the group even wanted 10 zones for the country.

“We are in support of 10 zones. We want to be in our own zone because currently we are Balkanized all over the country.

“The northern groups are living in the past because to have a fiscal federalism, all the zones must be included in the constitution.”

Also, a Niger Delta activist, Chief Nengi James, said for all sections of the country to become one entity, the geopolitical zones must be recognised in the constitution.

He said, “This time around, we are ready for them; if they don’t want it, let them go and form a country of their own. We have suffered enough in their hands but we are not ready to suffer any more.”

Meanwhile, in a 14-page memorandum submitted to the National Assembly which was made available to media, Ohanaeze stated that Nigeria made more progress in national development in the early years of its independence when it practiced true federalism of four regions with more extensive powers devolved from the center to the regions.

The memo read, “To return to true federalism, we need a major restructuring of our current architecture of governance. We would need six federating units, instead of our present 36 units, which not only sustain an over-dominant center, but also compel the country to spend not less than 74% of its revenue on the cost of administration.

“If the existing 36 states must be retained in some form, they could be made cost-effective development zones with minimal administrative structures within the six federating units.”

Uwechue, Eze Ilomuanya, Prof. Joe Irukwu, Justice Ezebuilo Ozobu, Chief Nduka Eya, and Chief Gari-Enwo Igariwey signed the document.

However, a Second Republic Governor of Kaduna State, Alhaji Balarabe Musa, said it was unnecessary to include geopolitical zones in the constitution.

Rather, he opted for the old regional system, which existed in the First Republic.

He said, There are more important issues in the country at this moment. It would be a waste of time and resources to drag the issues, because at the end of the day it will not work out.”

The six zonal structure was adopted in 1995 constitutional conference, following former vice-president, Alex Ekwueme’s proposal.

alj harem: LOOOOOL Odumchi kedu ?

Lol. Same old Alhaji.