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Eranders:
Are you from there?

My mother is from Uruagu Nnewi, the second born lineage of Nnewi

This is Nnewichi, the last born lineage of Nnewi town

Igbo kachaanu!!!!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vptwXLuDYcA

Alabo7978:
Ok Igbo slave

Ijaw and tenant, go and study Basden's map and meditate over it

Igboid:
Very beautiful map.
And I'm happy that Ijaws here have endorsed Basden!
When the time is right, we will use Basden and run them out of town.

I have to agree with you that it is a very lovely looking map.

At this rate, very shortly the landgrabbers will start seeking solace in Captain Crow and John Adam's accounts, hoping that it will limit the Igbo presence at the coast, to just Bonny and Opobo. But this will be difficult also because even Captain Crow insinuated Basden's map, because he wrote and I quote... IT IS PROBABLE (AND THIS OPINION IS ENTERTAINED BY CAPTAIN ADAMS AND OTHERS) THAT BONNY, AND THE TOWNS ON THE LOW LINE OF THE COAST ON EITHER SIDE OF IT WERE ORIGINALLY PEOPLED FROM THE EBOE COUNTRY.....

So Igbos were not just in Bonny, also bear in mind that John Adams, Crow and others wrote down their observations about a century before Basden.
Basden's map of Igboland tallies accurately with Crow's, Adams' and other neutral European observers' findings

Igboid:
The Okirika people the Colonials met, narrated to them that their ancestors came from Afam in Igboland.
And even today when we look at Okirika, we see vestiges of Igbo in them.
Why are you Ijaws insisting that obvious hybrid groups made of Igbo, Ibibio and Ijaw in Rivers State like Okirika and Kalabari must be Ijaw and Ijaw alone while the other important two aspect of their origin be discarded?
Why are you not comfortable with your Bayelsa 4 LGA and few LGA of Delta state homeland?
Why do you insist that all historical accounts be discarded for your modern day land grab fraudulent stories?

In Eastern region, Kalabari, Okirika, were all regarded as independent groups.
These groups serve as melting points between the Igbo, the Ibibio and the Ijaw.
And you can go write it down somewhere, because I noticed that you lots are quick to threaten violence ("Come and claim it offline') each time you get beaten by historical facts in online debate, Ndiigbo will never allow Kalabari and Okirika stand as anything but independent ethnicities post Nigeria independence.
There is no Ijaw in Rivers State, and that's how it will be. You will be "touched" offline at the appropriate time to maintain this order, if you insist on physical confrontation rather than on factual historical documentation to settle issues.
Ijaw starts and ends in Bayelsa State. Any one not in Bayelsa who is claiming Ijaw will have to learn this at the appropriate time. It's not a threat, it's a promise, Ndiigbo will not allow hostile teeth filing Ijaws from Bayelsa and Delta to surround us in the East. You will be well and truly checkmated and contained.

Long Live the Ruler of Bonny, for acting decisively in checkmating some Ijaw landgrabbers a few weeks ago.

The attached is a brief tutorial for Ijaws that are major fans of Basden

JANK23H:
Nope, it exposes your real intentions towards them. One of you blurted on the thread that other tribes are trying to cut you off by creating a rift between the Igbos and Efik. In the end, it's about using them for your benefit and not about love.

Nwokem, obviously you haven't even listened to the stuff before writing.

It clearly said Aro-Igbo and Efik warriors dislodged the Ibibios.

But secondly, who were the Aro people selling into slavery by the way? Was it not their fellow Igbos they were selling?

I have never been a fan of Aro achievements, mainly because it is full of disrespect and degradation for their fellow Igbos. But after all said and done, it was against their fellow Igbos.

If you want to learn about Igbos, then learn about the Nri civilisation. Those that own the Eke, Oye, Afo and Nkwo used by all the Igbos, Edos, Igala and Idoma.
Learn about the Nri kingdom, the most ancient surviving kingdom in Nigeria and their achievements. That will give you a real glimpse into the psyche of the Igboman. Igbos believe in universal justice and the egbe belu, ugo belu mantra

JANK23H:
It won't die..

More would be made known.Infact, we die here!

So Igbos and Efiks are being vilified in this thread. Don't you think this brings Igbos and Efiks together.

Is this not already counterproductive before it starts?

Alabo7978:
Oh shit, here we go again...

You have obviously been beaten silly in this thread and you have no other choice than to regurgitate the same thing time and time again.
You now totally ignore the account of the expedition leader, whose account is more accurate. Guess the ethnic origin of the king Pepple that Crowther was referring to. He was of Igbo origin. Case closed.

Basden has slapped you guys silly with his neighbourhood of Bonny statement and his map of Igboland

SlayerForever:
I can't believe it has gotten to the point we're now teaching Ijaw people English lwkmd

It's obvious education in the Bayelsa creeks is suffering.
Let's just do what we have to do to bring them up to speed in English language

Alabo7978:
But I thought you and your clowns maintain kalabari to be Igbo?
If they're Igbo, why Dem come dey corrupt "UBANI" as you said??
JANK23H robbstark putindbut let's see how he answers this.
Ekealterego SlayerForever Igboid biafrarep bkayy you can also help him create A LIE out of this.

Captain Crowe confirmed that both the Ubani and Kalabari royal lineages were of Igbo ancestry. That's obviously not in doubt.

Kalabari people now speak a different language. To make you happy, let's just say that Kalabari people, while no longer Igbo-speaking, are being traditionally led by a royal family of core Igbo lineage. Are you happy now? An Igbo family now leads Ijoids. Congrats

Now getting back to Basden and his account, neighborhood of Bonny doesn't mean Bonny.

Ubani remains an Igbo coastal territory. I hope the Amadabo episode of a few weeks ago, has shed enough light in this regard

Igboid:
Infant Basden actually concede that Bonny is Igbo, because he was actually talking about
other coastalplacess neighboring Bonny where Igbos were not Aboriginals and not about Bonny itself.

OfoIgbo. Good job.

Basden's Igboland map is a huge blow to landgrabbers. And Basden using the phrase neighbourhood of Bonny, can only be described as a knockout blow. Ochiputalufa okpa ezi . The land grabbers seem to have all crawled back into their holes, dusting up their usual last resort, Alagoa's gibberish.

JANK23H:
If you don't understand simple England language and sentence construction say it so we can teach you.

Please teach me.

If I say, I am in your neighbourhood, it doesn't mean I am in your house. It just means I am somewhere nearby.

So, if I say, in the neighbourhood of Bonny, it could be a nearby territory, or a piece of territory surrounding Bonny.
Basden then used his map of Igboland to buttress his point. There are obviously coastal areas not very far from Bonny, which are not Igbo areas. But those areas he thinks, were not Igbo areas could also be Igbo areas.

The point I am making is that Basden wasn't very thorough, or not specific enough, for us to claim as a matter of certainty, that this was what he was alluding to. Once again, I suppose we have to rely on his map of Igboland, as it removed every ambiguity

All these your almajiri education will mess you up one of these days.

igboid, bkayy, slayerforever, ekealterego

Igboid:
Basden gave a description of Igboland and went on to represent it in a map.

You provided the map.
Now here is the description.
He noted also the Delta regions of the Igbo being of different topography as the hinterland.

And coming to think of it, NEIGHBOURHOOD OF BONNY, doesn't necessarily mean BONNY itself. I suppose that's why he sketched the map to show the true extent of Igboland, which obviously includes Bonny.

Igboid:
By the way, this map is from Basden book.
You can check it out here: https://archive.org/details/amongibosofniger00basd/page/67/mode/1up?q=Bonny&view=theater

Just scroll to the last page.

Thanks for this.

JANK23H you were yelling above that Basden's map of Igboland that I shared was never in Basden's book. Well access the archival link provided by igboid

JANK23H:
No Igbo indigene of Bonny.The Igbo language as spoken was due to the slave trade.Basden confirmed what we've been saying all these time.

Basden also drew a map of Igboland. Go figure.

And why is the Bonny royal family of Igbo ancestry? It should be an Ijoid royal family, but it is not. And by the way, Ijaws are just in Bayelsa, according to Basden. It is an important point I don't want you to also forget

JANK23H:
He wasn't just talking about Bonny,he was emphatic about the coastal areas of the delta.Igbos aren't indigenous to those areas.

That quashes everything you've brought up so far,weda na Baike or Crow o,it cancelled everything.It was a fullstop to the controversy.

It didn't cancel one single thing, because you still haven't told us why the royal family of Bonny are of Igbo descent, and not Ijaw descent.

Also that map by Basden is a killer. He showed us the extent of Igboland

JANK23H:
There is nothing like that in Basden's book,you lieing piece of shi.t!

See painment

Basden really sodomised you landgrabbers, making sure to show Ijaws where they belong (Bayelsa)

JANK23H:
Igbos as slaves in Bonny.

Thanks.
When is your own map coming?

Igbos are also the kings of Bonny. Every amadabo must pay homage to my Igbo royal brodas.

Basden ma nigga has already showed you guys the extent of Igboland

JANK23H:
That was a scientific research and not a publication of someone's opinion.Do you think Basden wasn't aware of the memoir of Crow ?He knew about it hence the reason he was categorical.He started collecting data from 1900.

The snippet attached was a clear indicator that he was aware of other contributors.

You are still not getting it. The AMADABO brouhaha of a few weeks ago, gave a little insight into the ancestry of the Bonny royal family. The publications, by the dissidents and the publication by Bonny indigenes, clearly laid to rest, the ancestry of the royal household. They are clearly Igbo which is why the Ijaw-inspired coup was attempted.

To make your case stick, you have to show us what Basden said about the royal family. Show us a snippet where Basden claimed that from his interaction with the reigning king of Bonny, that the king told him that the Bonny royal family was of Ijaw ancestry.

If you can't show this, then you have no point.

Anyway, Basden has already given us the map of Igboland, so we are alright with Basden

Alabo7978:
This should clarify you.
Read carefully...

Well, the leader of that same expedition, Dr. Balfour Baikie, in his own official account made it clear that, Kalabari people referred to Bonny as Ibani. That Igbos referred to the same place as Ubani. This is likely to be more accurate afterall UBANI has a meaning in Igbo.
Ibani has no meaning in Igbo, so it must have been the way Kalabaris pronounced Bonny, coining their own from the original UBANI, by the Igbos.
I also know Ibani has no meaning in Kalabari, so they obviously derived that name from the original Igbo word for Bonny, which is UBANI

Okoloma is the UBANI people name for Grand Bonny, and Okoloma also exists in Ndoki-Igbo territory. There is no Okoloma in any Ijaw areas, so the Igbo ownership of this territory is not in question.

I have attached Dr. Baikie's take on this issue, and as the leader of the expedition, his account is the official account. Dr Baikie authenticated John Adam's and Crowe's account of the original people of Bonny. Igbos own it.

Eastlink:
Lol, this one brutal. I suppose the Ijaw dude quoting Basden to favour his claims didn't see this coming. Where is BishopMagic when you need him? Bishop come take a screenshot and share

They will soon drag out Alagoa's fake reports, to challenge ancient records put down by neutral observers.

Igbos have never denied that perhaps the majority of the slave population in Ubani were Igbos.

All we are saying is that alongside the slaves of Bonny, the ruling dynasty was/is Igbo and a great majority of the non-slave indigenes of Bonny. Captain Crowe bore witness to this, from his observations that took place from 1790. The book was published after his demise in 1830.

So basically Bonny is totally Igbo.

It's funny Basden did not mention the ethnic group of the ruling family of Bonny, as provided by the Bonny monarch.

Where are our Ijaw brothers that are seeking solace in Basden? Please try and explain away the map of Igboland. He drew it. Not me.

Eastlink:
See if you can publish that Basden map, to help imcrease the BP of the likes of Worworboy and Alabo.

Hopefully, my friend the only apostle of truth, BishopMagic will come in handy to help share the screenshots to Okrika groups.

Nnaa, Basden's map of Igboland is attached.

If Ijaw landgrabbers want Basden, we are game. Below is the map of Igboland according to Basden

Eastlink, also take note that Basden also showed Ijaw territory in that map. Just to the west of Igboland, you can clearly see Ijaw written down.

Which lends credence to statements by some Rivers state indigenes that Ijaws are now in Bayelsa

Igboid:
Please don't wait for him. They are usually allergic to any historical document not printed in the 60s upwards, when they started their revisionism.
If you have the map, share it to edify the audience.
I see many people peeping in as guests.

Igboid nwokem, please access this twitter page. It has the map of Igboland as sketched by Basden.

Also always bear in mind that there is no way Igbo-descended kings will be ruling Bonny, if Igbos were not the original inhabitants. That alone proves who occupied Ubani first.

But if Ijaws want to rely on Basden's skewed writings, that came many decades after John Adam and Crowe's accounts, they will also have to rely on his map for the real extent of Igboland.

So for the Ijaws, heads we win, tails you loose

https://twitter.com/johnny98414380/status/1127034992343707653

JANK23H:
That map showed where Igbos are located which included Bonny.Before then however,he had introduced a caveat that Igbos weren't indigenous to Bonny.I saw the map,so what's there to cry about?

Please when you attach snippets of information, tell us who wrote it and what year the book was published, so we can compare with earlier writeups on Bonny.

Secondly, you are lying. I will look for the map later on today and also display what title was given to the map. Not all these falsifications of the map that you are giving here.

Thirdly, why is the royal family of Bonny, of Igbo ancestry, and has always been so throughout history, if Igbos are not autochthonous to the land?

JANK23H:
Notes on the Ibo country and the Ibo People, Southern Nigeria by George Basden,Pg 243

Alabo7978
Putinthebutt

I will be happy for you to also attach the map of Igboland that Basden drew. That will make you cry.

Igboid take note. Basden killed Ijaws with the map of Igboland that he sketched in his book

JANK23H:
Even though I disagree with the author's poor opinion of the Igbo coast dwelling neighbours. You sort of confirmed our long draw argument that the Igbos are not coastal dwellers but were found in the hinterlands.

It didn't confirm anything. At no point in that paragraph did the writer write that Bonny and Opobo were not Igbo territories.

Coastal Igbos are mainly in Bonny and Opobo. The vast majority of Igbos are of course, in the hinterland

Lipscomb:
Sincerely nothing really spectacular about this video except the song and people that performing cultural events. The fact is that you people are very noisy this is your cradle home for goodness sake. Can you compare this village to ife?

There are 4 UMU Nri towns. The most developed with the richest NRI people is Enugwu-Ukwu. The others are Enugwu-agidi, Nawfia and Agukwu-Nri (now called NRI).

So if you want to bring Ife to the equation, then you will have to bring along the other core NRI towns I have mentioned. Ife stands no chance

Why do you think the pot holes and gallops have not been levelled?

Do you want the government to cover your underground shelter?

Spherical77:
Yes, Amaechi got some hope in fighting for the ticket and hopefully have it. Not those mogalu or whatever. Everything go clear after the primary election

But if Nigerians have foresight, it is people like Muoghalu or Soludo that they should be rushing towards.

Not Peter Obi, and definitely not Tinubu

Spherical77:
you prefer this you prefer that. Your preference can't win election in Nigeria. You seems not to understand this naija politics. Who'd give them the ticket? Under which party biko? If wishes were to be horses, beggars will definitely ride.

I also prefer Chibuike Amaechi to Peter Obi. Yes, I mean the Amaechi that delivered a nasty political slap to Peepoos president a few years ago.

Is that the sort of threat you want me to o mention?

UnabashedIPOB:
Tinubu, however, told the monarch that if given the opportunity, he would not let Nigerians down.

Have LIEGERIANS not heard that before? Those who created the problem can NOT be the ones to proffer solution!

Your sentiments are spot on.

Peepoo even said he will consolidate on the current rot

LegendHero:
Asiwaju is campaigning and meeting with people that actually vote and not social media noisemakers without voters card.

Obi Pandora the fugitive that murdered his people and siphoned their money in Pandora account is not campaigning now, soon the cry baby will come out and be begging PDP to zone it to him on a platter.

That's how you uglies kept hyping Tinubu up, until Chibuike Amaechi gave him a political beating he will never forget, by getting rid of Oshiomole under Tinubu's nose.

Leaky d!ck, the pee poos president will have a gargantuan task convincing Nigerians his very ugly face is needed in Aso Rock.

And for your information, I am not even a Peter Obi fan.

I prefer Kingsley Muoghalu, Ogbonnaya Onu to him.