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@Plus_Queen: « #59 on: Today at 07:38:20 AM »

@plus_Queen,


Quote from: plus_Queen on Today at 02:04:25 AM
wow!
The word really works.

True, the Word works and there's nothing anyone can do about it. Jesus is Lord.

I just finished my morning prayers. Alhamdulillah. Was Jesus not the "word?"
He is also the "lord?"

lol. WHICH LORD GOD SPOKE THE "Word," then? Was it Jesus or some other "God"?
Baby, I will meet you bare knuckle to bare knuckle! You got to answer my "questions."

@Plus_Queen: « #57 on: Today at 02:05:23 AM »

@ pussy be a man and stop whining like a little sissy

Its a bodily function. You this woman. Somebody just have to give an outlet to talk
about Gym. You start, immediately talking about the tecnics and difficulty levels of
each style of gymnastics.

Boy, you can take the doctor out of the theater, but the theater out of the doctor,
thats the 64,000 Dollars question!

@Plus_Queen: « #118 on: Yesterday at 11:42:51 PM »  

idupaul,that dream is from the pit of hell.
God maybe calling you for a deeper walk with him.
Attending mass is not it.
A life of total surender is the answer
You must be born again!
What you're going through is fear and fear has torment.
That's not the will of God for you.

I am happy that you are disagreeing with the catholic sect of christianity. The same sect that the Igbo people
for the most part practice. All the people I know in Igbo tribe are catholic. Interestingly, it is the same sect that
the protestants shamelessly copied their Bible, less 6 or 7 books! Then my girl, I will leave the rest of your
gobbled up entry above alone, because there is no spiritual sense to it, in as much as there is the concept of
three gods, and the laziness of the belief that you can sing, dance, rapture, triune, etc, your way to Paradise!

I have news for you, woman, beauty and all the worldly acutremens will not be enough to help you against the
Justice of Allah, the Almighty. If you are the one having this reiccurring dream, it will be foolish to chalk it up to
what you are saying above. But it is in foolishness that people take human being as god, anyhow.

 

@idupaul: « #119 on: Yesterday at 11:49:16 PM »  

Quote
A life of total surender is the answer

You shall never know  the good i will make out of these set of words u have just revealed to me. thnks

What will you do if you still continue to go through the same thing after you have worked the the "good
of these set of words?" Who is Mightier; the words of Plus_Quuen, a mere mortal like Jesus, minus the
prophethood, or God the Almighty Creator?

 

@davidylan*: « #120 on: Today at 02:50:05 AM »  

Quote from: idupaul on Yesterday at 11:39:20 PM
I have stepped up my religious life and now attend mass every evening: but these days when I sit at mass my whole being seems nt to have the patience for the place, there is this deep feeling that i do not belong there. am scared for sure now, why does my soul and being get lethargic immediately I step into the church these day. I have this feeling that my prayers there are in vain.


bros, i run through my bible and i don't see anything like mass or "religious life". What i see there is are simple men and women being led by the Holy Spirit, living like Christ did.

Run through your Bible again. I bet you will not find Trinity. And you will not find, also the Bible without any and all the prophets, including Jesus son of Mary not declaring from their individual lipd that God is different from each of them! Let me help you with Mark 12 verse 29 so that you don't have to act as if you are blind. There are many verses where Jesus clearly let us know that he aint God!

By the way, give us the quantitative and qualitative identity of the "holy spirit"? Does he/she/it have a proper name, etc? If any were to live like chrsit did, will there be any christian anywhere? You must consider that Jesus was not a christian and we read that he worshipped, prayed to, supplicated to and cried to God Almighty, his Lord and God who is One Lord! Did Jesus ever asked anything or prayed in "Jesus name?"    


@Olaremint: We just need to remind others about her "Islam!" Maybe she can in the long run turn her life around! But she can't have a free run, without anyone pointing out her fake Islam. A woman who was angry with boyfriends, while she changed them as if they were assortments of snacks. You dont have to be a Muslim to even know that it is lack of good morality to be that on carefree on the face of it. No one is accusing her of what may or may not occur behind the close door, while she was "wearing hijab," and defending Islam, in very rigorous way. Interesting that she found it easy to shake the hands of those good christian white boys, always.

In all my years in America, I rarely find black women who prefer exclusively white men! Then talk about how hard is it to believe that this was a Yoruba Nigerian, and hijab wearing Muslim woman! How did she do it? I guess she was white struck! Now I will not mind her.

I will ignore Jennykadri's entry of naivete, above. Wait till Allah the Almighty "blesses her," with idayah!
Was Jesus not the one seen begging a Creator from the reads right there on the pages of the Bible? These
are the parts of the Bible that Islam agrees with. Not the silly father god, son god, same image as god, that
"exMuslim" Pilgrim who gave us a glossy, without dates and time of her Islamic llive and Christian live, wants
us to swallow, without any thought. The lazy woman wants us to believe that she was a good muslim and
observing, regularly Salah and other commandments on time, while wearing Hijab, and yet she found Jesus as
best lover, through all of these?

Has anyone seen a verse that shows an equal mercy from Jesus like the one shown by Muhammad on the
Makkans at his victorious entry of that hostile city that ran him out, many years earlier? Can anyone show me
for my own reading a greater mercy and forgiveness from Jesus than what Muhammad shown to the people of
Taif who almost killed him just for preaching to them that God is a single God and He is not an idol? I am waiting
people. A person who shows mercy must be in the position of a victor, not a victim! How can Jesus be showing
mercy on those people who have power of him, except it should have been the other way around.

Could i be capable of showing mercy on a stronger and more powerful Hulk Hogan when he is beating me down?
If I claim that I am showing him mercy, while I am taking a pounding from him, is my statement of mercy on him
not just a shell and hollowness of truth?

@Pilgrim.1: It is a reality in Qur'an and ahadith that no muslim needs Muhammad (AS) to speak to Allah. Muhammad's role was the messenger and a warmer! And if I do not need Muhammad to talk to Allah, why in the world would you think that i will need Jesus, an earlier Prophet?

If this is a sign of disbelief on my part, then no wonder you are a Christian. Finally, then consider the unexplained opposition of the Book of Roman verses against one another, since you are quoting that Jesus is more than what the earlier verse stated with your 5:1 and co.

Is there a verse though, in the whole of the Bible (New Testament), where Jesus is reported to categorically state that he knew "the time of the hour!" Then you will be impressing me. Until then, you are doing a disservice to yourself!

And my acceptance of a Bible verse is based on the fact that it is compartable with the Qur'an, and nothing else.

@Davidylan*: « #263 on: October 03, 2008, 09:37 PM »

You didnt give us a chapter to check.
Only 3 verses in the entire quran talking about such a great "prophet" as Ibrahim?

Check out Chapter 3, Al Imran, verse 84, specifically for few list of names who are Muslims.
Deny any one of them, if you wish. But you must provide good intelligent reasons. You msut
tell us why not all of them, if you wish. But is any of these noble men, Christian? This is in addition
to what I listed the other day; Surah Ibrahim, etc. lol.

Verse 52 of the same Chapter 3 spoke about the disciples of Jesus (AS) and Jesus being Muslims.
Then you should read from 80 all the way to 91, for good education about who is a believer versus who is not!

@Pilgrim.1: « #42 on: Today at 08:22:40 PM »

@Olabowale,

Allah is not God for me. If you are so driven to ask me to follow the Bible, I am doing so and rejoicing in the same God who is known as FATHER by the prophets of the Bible. Please don't humour me with this retired gimmick of quoting the Bible and asking me to obey it when you are the very last to believe in it! What kind of hypocrisy is that?

If you wanna follow a thing with true conviction, it must be a followership of every part of it! You for example pick and choose Bible parts! Then if I use this to measure your rejoicing, it is not without deficiencies! If I were a hypocrite, I will not call you on a very important point, which by the way is very agreeable to Muslims; why worshipping the creation, while refusing to worship the Creator wholeheartedly and solely? Allah may not be God for you, it is your lack of knowledge about absolute truth that speaks therein.

I on the other hand, do not do this with the Qur'an. It is every letter, word and sentence with me!

If you want to become a Christian and then enjoy the message of the Bible, the invitation is still open - Jesus loves you and will save you the very moment you receive Him into your heart. There is no quarelling or logic about it - Jesus is Lord.

But Jesus was not in the religion of christianity. He did not start it nor has any knowledge of it! Read your Bible again. Ilove Jesus, as much as I love all the other prophets (AS), before him! His love for me is not an unusual thing. Afterall, he and i worship the same Lord, Allah the irrestitable!

Jesus needed safety, which was his reason he prayed and cried before the was arrested. Read your Bible again. You need to know that I will go to the same God Lord who Jesus was begging and crying to!

Why would would i half step to my Creator, when He is informed me that my channel to Hims is without any obstruction? Allah is Akbar. I don't even need Muhammad (AS) for this. Yet I am in the time of his prophethood. How do you think I will regress to even an earlier Prophet?

It will be like somebody in the time of Ibrahim (AS) rejecting him for say Noah (AS) an earlier prophet! Thats pure disbelief!

@Cayon: So you visited a mosque? Which one? I glad you have a pleasant experience.

@Ayinba1: I did not tell anyone about her visit. I have only prayer in Brooklyn, just once,
in the past 2 years. All my Jumuah is in the city. We ask Allah to soften her heart towards
Guidance. Amin.

@Pilgrim.1: « #13 on: Yesterday at 12:08:02 AM »

Quote from: Nimshi on Yesterday at 12:02:36 AM
You see what your eyes want to see.

True.

Now while the reactions may be varied (as we have seen), no one can deny that these phenomena are quite striking. I mean, it is not everyday one sees the word "G-O-D" on the side of an alligator spelt so unmistakenly! Yet, that alone is insufficient reason for anyone to rever that alligator to such extent as to worship the creature. Romans 1:25 warns us against the attitude of those who "worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator" (Roman 1:25). Fascinating as they are, they should not distract us from knowing Who really is the One we worship.

Now then, Pilgrim.1, how is it that you can't follow the instructions of this simple and direct verse, Romans 1: 25, above? Is there a creator other than the One single Creator; Allah in Arabic, Eloi in Hebrew, whom Jesus cried to on the "Cross," God in English, and in my Yoruba ethnic tongue, Oluwa? Is anyone deserving a part of the worship due to this Supreme Deity, God Almighty the Creator?

Why then do you worship the creation who clearly worshipped the Creator, while you refuse to prostrate your face to the Irrestitable God Almighty Allah Azawaja?

@Pilgrim.1: « #6 on: October 03, 2008, 11:54 PM »

Quote from: pilgrim.1 on October 03, 2008, 11:49 PM
Well, a few of my muslim “friends” on YIM have “kindly” asked me in very critical terms (apart from the remonstrances) to check the “signs” of Allah all over the place.

So, there they are. But although some were naïve to assume that it has always been “allah” written on those medium/media, they supposed (nay, ‘alleged’) that one could not find a similar “sign” for the European’s god (by which they meant that no such signs could be found in the English equivalent of “God”). I remember someone gently “reminded” me on the forum that Jesus never spoke English (“never heard of it”, said she) . . by which she had thought of calling my attention to the name ‘Allah’.

That being so, I only smiled and asked those gentlemen to come back here and let me help them see just the very thing they alleged was never in existence. Below, you will find “GOD” written on the side of the alligator:

Woman, you would have impressed me, if God of Christians; be it the father god, son god, ghost god, or even Jesus, or trinity was written on anything, in get this; the language of which any of it was spoken "originally," before the Europeans took over from the Semitic Children of Israel!

Michael Wilk was tossing back a few beers with friends when he saw
God on the side of his 4-foot-long pet alligator. The white markings
popped out against a backdrop of black scales to form the letters G-O-D.”
____________________________________________________________

source: http://purgatorio1.com/?p=473 (more here)

Is the word GOD on the side of the alligator an indication of Christian God, of any of the 3 gods? Why not in Hebrew and I wanna see how you will wrestle that "Hebrew wording," away from the Jews/children of Israel, who will definitely claim that you, a Christian have no single god, but gods. And as a matter of fact you borrowed the idea of Godship from them!

@jennykadri: I am just wondering, if you are in the shoes of Idupaul, what would you do?
If you continue to have the same darn dream over and over again.

Will you call the dream, a dream from "hell?" Those who are from hell will see hell, over and
over, again. Are you ready for such an experience? Maybe I should locate you and take you
to a mosque, to see whats inside. It is even plainer than a church, considering that you have
a pew, an organ, sometimes a full musical instruments fit for a musical group.

Lest I forget about the benches, etc. Finally, what about the eclectic stain window pane,
telling stories with animated and human figures!

Wake up to that at night. Then compare it to the inside of a typical mosque, plain and boring!

@Nimshi: « #273 on: Today at 02:43:00 PM »

olabowale: Salam.

First, I thank you for your frank answer. Below, I respond, starting with the example of Hussein.
There are problems with this line of reasoning. Iraq is a country with secular laws, and Hussein was found guilty by a secular court, with the sentence deemed appropriate being death by hanging; he committed crimes according to the laws of the land. The problem with comparing this to the original case we were discussing is clear: while the original matter will be deserving of death according to Islam, the State does not allow the sentence to be carried out. How do you address this difference?

The secularism practiced by Iraq is not 100%, but it is mixed with religious underpinnings. Proof; there is Laa ilaha ilallah, on their flag. America thought that she could simple cajoled them to abandone that. That very simple Shahadah must account to something in their ancor of belief. Pakistan is formed based on Islam, yet it does not have the same Shahadah on its flag. Now, Turkey is a kinda of secularism that you may use as example, where islamic thoughts and mindset is repressed, though unsuccessful, for the most part.

As to those who may be deserving of death because of their compounding apostasy against Islam, again, and as I have said, it is okay by me whatever the society see fit that the person dies. But he must just not be an orinary apostate. And people should also be willing to forgive, for that may also help to heal the community, after he the jurispudence must have been duly exercised on him.

@Pilgrim.1: « #70 on: Today at 12:08:54 PM »  

@Olabowale,
This thread is not about what Muslims think about Jesus Christ, and there are appropriate threads where they can bear their misgivings on that. May I remind you:

Just the way, it is not a thread where you can stop anyone from airing a view that is answer appropriate. I remembered you almost got upset that there were revertions from Christianity to Islam. The love of my life, after my mother, Zainab Ndidi, is adopting a chinese-mix child, whom I just less than a hour ago, named Khadijah. We are trying to make sure that our relationship with her is Sharia compartible. I am not letting her bear my last name, because it will be against Islam. She, the little girl is unfortunately abandoned without a family history and heritage. We therefore think that she should be named Khadijah China. (Sinnin).

Alhamdulillah, we will raise her as a muslim girl. And there will be other future adoptions, InshaAllah!

@Plus_Queen: « #21 on: Today at 03:59:13 AM »

olabs does that girl look nude to you?
is the opposite of hijab nudity?
this people sef

Woman, a woman does not have to be in the buff, before you know that she is nude!
Have you heard the term the "Emperor with any cloth"?
Now Yoruba people have an adage that talks about unclothedness without being in the buff;
Firi firi o jo, oko lonbo. It simply means transparency is not like without any covering!
But now, is the covering that is transparent hiding anything? Thats nudity!

And by the way, my love of women start with Yoruba women before others. Remember that
my beloved mother is a pure Yoruba woman. But then I love muslim women Yoruba woman
after my mother, before any tribe.

And I will leave your attempt of "igbo temptation," alone, for you to wonder. lol.

Finally anyone who flunts her jewels for all to see is nude in my book. And I am a very liberal
man. But I also have bashfulness. I have seen it all. Nothing new to me.

@Davidylan*: « #263 on: October 03, 2008, 09:37 PM »

You didnt give us a chapter to check.
Only 3 verses in the entire quran talking about such a great "prophet" as Ibrahim?

Check surah baqarah for the verses above. Then for many details of Ibrahim in
the Qur'an, then check chapters, Baqarah, Imran, Nisaa, and many many others;
almaidah, al anam, and many others. Check it and dont be too lazy.

@Nimshi: Salaama.
I am not a scholar, and my opinion is very weak on this. I will support any method of execution chosen by the community of Muslims. This is after a thoroughly vetted due process for all human beings to see, as a fair trial since Islam calls for fairness. I will also support wholesale forgiveness if the community so wished.

My support is more of a sharia compartibility than anything. It is on the pages of Qur'an that if the conditions are such and the judgement is pronounced, then it is permissable to execute such an evil person. There is no one of the two remaining of the so called monotheist communities that will not do the same!

The Jews will kill such a person, if he were to live in Israel at the drop of a dime. How many have they killed in their communities around the world without anyone outside their community knowing about it? This is a matter of religious and ethnic identity to them!

I have a friend in Brooklyn who is ethnically Jewish. His name is Musa Cohen! The moment he became a muslim, in Jerusalem, they renounced his citizenship and they almost crushed his skull. Only God Almighty saved his hyde from that certain death they wished on him! If it were in the olden days, they would have strung him up on a "CROSS!"

If a person entered Christianity and left with a whole community, of say 200,000 people following him out of Christianity, some deranged, "Lonewolf," they will call me, will not allow the process to take place, in peace if they have any in their religion. This lonewolf will waste him as soon as he has the chance. He will travel internationally to do this. We all know that it is not possible to turn the oter cheek. Reality is very different from the ordinary speech we hear them make. Look around the world, has any Christian community ever turned the other cheek? Never because the pain will not let them do it!

Finally, again I will support any choice of system of execution. I am giving a more recent secular reason for this; Afterall, the US and her leadership supported the executions by hanging of Sadaam Hussaine, and his brother, etc. If the Iraqis have chosen beheading or any other ways, of execution,the US would not have objected, since they were intending to get rid of him! Their singular reason was that he and the others were bad guys.

Islam must be able to use the same exact philosophy. The apostates with the evil intentions to leave Islam bent on a possible big blow on it are also BAD GUYS! And bad guys deserve whatever came to them as the consequence of their actions. That also include forgiving them all, or some or just one a way to show "mercy," when it is not meritted,or none of them at all!

@Davidylan*: « #267 on: Yesterday at 10:07:44 PM »

Jesus Christ gives me food to eat and water to drink because he loves me not allah . . . biko don't curse me. Matthew 6-7.

Biko. Stop forcing lies on us. The last I knew, Jesus was seeking fig fruits as food from a tree that should not be fruiting! Then the devil was teasing him about feeding him with loaf of bread, while demanding that he worshipped him! Later we see him seeking bread to eat with disciples. All of these are from the pages of your Bible.

Can this be an entity who can feed you with food to eat and water to drink? Is he the one makes rain fail from the cloud? Is he the Lord of the Oceans and Seas, rivers and streams of the world? Is the corn growing by his power, to hundreds of folds? Stop the silliness david!



[Quote]
When you read the pages of the quran, when you see how christians are treated in northern nigeria, pakistan, iran, sudan . . . when you see men who would kill over an ordinary cartoon, when a god demands death for renouncing islam, when you see sharia law . . . when you read the unbridled muslim hate for israel . . .
now THAT my brother, is hate![/quote]Onibon oje David! Islam calls for those who deceitfully entered Islam with the hypocritical intention of leaving it, whereby those who may have thought of as a worthy person can leave with him, to be killed, for their evil intentions. For two reasons; the maligning of Islam and deceitfully getting others to leave.

If Islam hated Israel, it is very peculiar that Qur'an spoke kindly, treated with great kindness and showed favor to Israel and his believing Children, while punishing disbelievers, eg Pharaoh and Egypt and other city states along the way to the so called "promised land," for their favor? And the Muslims in their hatred of israel have never for once tried to change the Qur'an, especially where they Children of Israel were placed in position of honor! See how terrible mind see good things in an awkwardly evil? See how you view Qur'an, from your terrible and poorly made Prizm? And you leant all these Vitroils from whom? Definitely not Jesus (AS)!

@Davidylan*: « #265 on: October 03, 2008, 11:27 PM »

[/quote]this is shameless ducking of issues.
[quote]

What shameless about his concise and meaningful response and ananlysis, respectively, of you?

Why is "prophet" Ibrahim given so scant attention in the quran?

Scant attention, after a full chapter is devoted to him? Ibrahim (AS) is mentioned in Surah Baqarah, Imran, Nisaa, and many others. His prayer was stated very clearly in it and also called the friend of Allah, in addition to the favors that were bestowed on him; commanding the fire to be cool and a safe place for him, ransoming his son from being slaughtered, acceptance of his prayer and making his call of hajj a commandment on believers, plus chosing all prophets from him onward to and ending with Muhammad (AS) from his bloodline. Is that scant?

Now from your generous Bible on his life story, please tell us more about him, than what I had mentioned above, from the Qur'an. Bo you even have all of these topics, above about him, in the Bible? Yet I have not even spoken about how he discovered Allah The Almighty God, after he had taken, the moon, then the star and the sun for god, one after the other, seeing that their brilliance died off, all faded away as they set running their course. Thiese events set him on the path to the discovery of his Lord Almighty Allah!

Why did allah choose all his "prophets" but one from the jews he has sworn to destroy?

Adam, Idris (Enoch), Noah, Hud, Salih, Shuib, Ibrahim, Ismail, Isiaq, Yaqub, Yusuf, etc or at least, none of these listed men was a descendant of Judah, where the terms; Jews and Judaism were derived! And the prophets said that there were 240,000 messengers and prophets as humans sent to humans. You are not saying all of them, except Muhammad were decendants of Judah, the father of the actual Jewish branch of the children of Jacob? Or even all can be Children of Jacob? And by the way it is Allah, and not the way you dubiously distort it in your Christian wolfy behaviour in sheepishly deceit!

Is there any reason for evil doers who do not repent not be punished? Was Pharaoh not destroyed in the time of exodus of the children of Israel (not Jews), out of Egypt? Look, OJ Simpson was just convicted in Las Vegas, NV., for something he should have walked. The people went back to his acquittal of the 1990s double murder trial to see that he got their own brand of justice, which they say it is "Justice delayed!"

That isnt clear to me in islam.

If its not clear to you in Islam, can you you imagine the convolution and the muddiness you should be experiencing in Christianity about the same matter(s)? Esoo o. Thats Ijebu for howdy!

@Gamine: « on: Yesterday at 03:16:16 PM »

I want to know two things

One, Why there is a crescent and star representing the islamic faith, why its on the mosques n all that

Neither represents Islamic faith: The flag of islam is Laa ilaha ilallah Muhammadanr Rasulullah. The Moon Crescent and star was adopted as a symbol of a Kalifah. Muhammad (AS) did ot even have a symbol of his own. Just like Makka and Madina is now under a land known as Arabia Saudia (Saudi Arabia), as adopted and named with an attachment to the house of "SAUD!" You see the people who covet the spoil were actually not the primary victor.

It like the way Children of "Israel" are now known as Jews.

Two, why they have to call for prayer through a loud speaker, a muslim friend of mine told me it was unneccessary.

Did you ever wonder why the Christians bell have to be rung so loudly? Is it necessary for the Christian Churches, which are attended maybe few times, but definitely on sundays to even ring any bell, and, then so loudly? When you find your answer to that Church bell, apply the same to the Islamic call through the loud speaker! NuraAllah. The light of Allah. The call to prayer brings happiness to the heart of believers. And a light on their faces after prostrations!

Should I still get out after answering your questions? Isn't the community of muslims now large and wide enough that we should now be able to call on PBA to the people to hurry up for success!

@Plus_Queen: « #18 on: Yesterday at 11:28:55 PM »

ok O Ayinba
I have nothing against a hijab as long it's not forced on people.

Who appointed you a muslim police or a spoke person for muslim woman, considering that you and us dont "yoke," together? Orisi risi from 9ja people!

That's what I'm against.

Who cares, because your opinion does not count. You think this is Christianity, where Paul who used to be Saul, overrides Jesus' all day long? Come on, lady with the long "Trail!"

Muslim ladies that want to look well groomed and modern can do so
and no one should force them into any outfits

Who tells you women have to expose/flash, before she is "look well groomed and modern"?
When did you become the mouth piece or the voice of "reason," since you see 3 gods in the place of One Full God?
This afternoon, I remembered some of my Christian "High School hymms." One was about "The Immortal and Invisible God, Holy and Wise." I got thinking; does Jesus fit any of the descriptions/qualifications? The answer is no. And I dare you to challenge me. I know am roughling feathers that you probably think already preen! Answer anyhow.

and of course no Muslims should force Christians in their territories to wear any type of clothing.

You love double talking too much. On one hand you are dictating the clothing of muslim women, when you are not a muslim. On the other hand, you are restricting what muslims should do with nonmuslims in her territory. Do you want the Muslims in nonmuslim communities to go about nude, as defined by Qur'an? Like the people who are in not shameful?

Look at this Igbo girl for instance,her hair is right,her outfit is decent and not offensive at all.
and she looks alive!

Thats you, igbo woman? I think you are giving us hints. Too much artificial hair. Is like the old saying; something new, something old and something borrowed.

the girl I had above is very pretty but looks unhappy.

You must be a good shrink who can diagonise a person from just looking at her picture. Except the muslim woman does not need any diagonisis. The person who diagonised the late Schaivo by just her video, a higher grade of medium than just the picture, is no more in the US senate. lol.

u get the fangs out, already. chei. lol.

lol. di imale ko gbadun ee.

@Plus_Queen: First, I am a yoruba boy. There is no c in my yoruba alphabet. So I wrote s, instead of c! I had since corrected it. It was right in front of your nose. I guess, the trick to deceive me (lol), did not let you see it. Mochu, in Igbo. Moshu (lol) in Yoruba. The same way you always write Olabowole for me, instead of olabowale! You ever heard me cry foul? lol. Get with it.

I even tried, considering that I never ventured to the eastern part of the country before! But you (lol) who claimed to have rendevous with Yoruba boys (I hope they were not area boys though; lol), you made mistake in a very simple name like wale!

I love you too much, so lets drop it and concentrate on the topic. And david, has to right to correct me, because he is a yoruba boy and can't even speak a single word of igbo! I can even say nnoh, daalu, ewu, ewo, and others that I do not wish to repeat publicly. lol.

@Deepzone: Baby, tell me if he is lord and not a Prophet of Islam, how come he did not know about the "time of the hour," when ordinary and common listeners to his speech, asked? Why did he say One who knows the "time of the hour," is God in "heaven?"

Hotfunmi (Using Plus_Queen's name she called you on the Proverb Thread: lol), omo girl, answer the questions! lol. Baby, now that you know that Jesus himself, from his own speech in the Bible confessed that he does not know the hour, that utterance, not being the All Knower should have been the pointer that Jesus is not God! Alhandulillah, I am not a religious bankrupt. I know better that what is not absolute can never receive any worship from me. Thats why I worship Allah Almighty, alone. The same Allah (Eloi) that Jesus cried to (according to the Bible)!

Emi o mo bi o se nshe o. Sugbon, mio ni fi Olorun sile, ki nma wa sin eniyan ti won da bi emi noo!

@Davidylan*: « #104 on: Yesterday at 08:54:39 PM »

What surname is Moshu?
this man and his bizarre statements.

I wo Omo Ijebu yi (People claim their father's bloodline, okay).
What do yo know about Igbo people? Lol.
Let Plus_Queen woman handle it, man!

@Plus_Queen: « #106 on: Yesterday at 11:08:30 PM »

Olabs hon,we go way back.By now you should know that God blessed me with alot of intelligence

And when it comes to belief/faith, you get "Writer blockage!" How then shall we the expalin that you miss the point that 3 can never be 1, regardless of how you slice it? And how well can we expalin that you, a very intelligent woman, with a long drag (lol), is calling a human, God? And how come do you take an entity that did not even know "the time of the hour," for object of worship? Baby, I love you, but please dont get me started!

I give him praise for it.
I know I joke a whole lot but I'm not one to open my mouth and just talk without being very sure what I'm saying.
Tell your friend Mochu or whatever to go and read upon his history.

Okey, that what we call him, is a clearly smart man. He is well read, and a self starter, a leader. He knows just as much about Igbo people as you. He is 100% Igbo man. My wife is also an Igbo woman. Her mother is also an Igbo woman. I may just go and ask Odumegu Ojukwu himself (lol), and that will settle it. Definitely, thats an authentic Igbo man.

: « #108 on: Yesterday at 11:17:02 PM »
Traditional Igbo political organization was based on a quasi-democratic republican system of government that guaranteed equality of the citizenry as against a feudalist "dictator king" in tight knit communities as witnessed by the Portuguese who first arrived and met with the Igbo people in the 15th century.[26] With the exception of a few Notable towns of the Igbo like Onitsha, which had kings called Obi, and places like the Nri Kingdom and Arochukwu, which had priest kings known as Eze Nri; Igbo communities and area governments were overwhelmingly ruled solely by a republican consultative assembly of the common people.[27] Communities were usually governed and administered by a council of elders and the group's leader was determined by who was the eldest.[28]

My friends think that you are intentionally being argumentative. They happen to be Christians. lol. Your argument here on this Royalty thing, reminds me of how you argue that there is god that comes out when you throw the three gods in a pot! lol. I love this woman and I am having fun with her!

« #109 on: Yesterday at 11:21:04 PM »
now you owe me an apology in law

I will let Oga give you the kind of apology that befits a woman of your stature. From a far, I will say Pele. lol.
Now can we move on on the essence of the thread?

@Davidylan*: My friends last name is Mochu. He said its not like a common name. Then he joked with me about Igbo people, by saying "Igbo ewen eze." That is not to say that they don't have "oga," just like the Yorubas, except that they like to stubbornly deny it!

@Idupaul: « #97 on: Today at 07:30:29 PM »

I had the same dream today, the only difference was that my mum was there. am now confused

And you do not have Malaria, I will bet! You should now tell your mom and go with her to the Mosque! The nairaland people are not in your skin and they do not share your spirit. Go and save your soul, before these other people lead you to destructions. You should ask why you? Why not others? God Almighty Who is capable of doing what He wills, Who knows "the time of the hour" while no one else knows, or knew it, is showing you mercy. Grab it with both hands, with all your power!




@zayhal (f): « #98 on: Today at 07:46:45 PM »

Have you been praying about these dreams? I mean praying with all sincerity to GOD directly, putting religion aside. make it direct, talk to God alone in the language you understand most. I believe He'll listen to you and put you at ease.

Great advice!



@davidylan*:« #99 on: Today at 07:49:29 PM »

allah understands only arabic. This is just mindless plagiarised "christian" drivel.
How do you pray to God "putting religion aside"? Who then are you praying to? A universal "God" who exists in your own imagination?

Even me His "Slave," understands more than 1 language. Silly David!
The Hindu believes that there exist a universal God! God existence
phenomenon does not end with the so called "Monotheist religions," alone.
Unfortunately, I do not even now how you as a Christian claim that you are a
monotheist, since you ahve 3 gods, whereby 1 of them gave up his "ghost,"
in the care of another! Orisi risi!

Try to get out of that net or maybe maze for a quick minute. You see how hard it is.

Joe Six Pack! Gotcha!

AA's 12 steps anonimous!



@idupaul: « #100 on: Today at 07:53:40 PM »

Quote from: davidylan* on Today at 07:49:29 PM
allah understands only arabic. This is just mindless plagiarised "christian" drivel.
How do you pray to God "putting religion aside"? Who then are you praying to? A universal "God" who exists in your own imagination?


exactly

Aint you the dude having dreams? You better go and see what God has in stock for you. If you let this other people lead you to perdition, then its your own fault!



@ayinba1 (f): « #101 on: Today at 08:28:43 PM »

idupaul

Don't you think you are allowing your own experience to be ridiculed by sucking up to the likes of davidylan? My email to you said, call on your CREATOR. Zayhal pretty much just suggested the same thing. don't turn what is going on in your life to a laughable or joking matter.

Just so you know, Allah understands all even without you uttering a word. I wish you very well, and you will owe me when you understand why I congratulated you!

I wish idupaul will listen to people like you, instead of the helpers of Shaitan who are agitating him on the wrong path!



@davidylan*: « #102 on: Today at 08:32:03 PM »

Zayhal said this - I mean praying with all sincerity to GOD directly, putting religion aside.
Now religion aside, which "God" was she talking about?

1. IduPaul's experience is nothing spiritual at all, the bible warns us clearly that dreams are ONLY to be put through the test of the word of God. His dream fails that test woefully and can only have come from an over-active imagination.
there is nothing to his dream, its only because it mentions "mosque" that all of you are hyperventilating.

And if he had mentioned Church, would you hav suggested the way you have? Acting as the antithesis of his dream? And by the way who was the "inspired writer," of that portion of the Bible, as highlighted? I bet you dont know! lol. Maybe you should listen to some Christian songs to get inspiration, so that you can answer with some sense!

David, is there more than One God? That One god is Whom Zayhal was talking about. Am sure your mind was on father god, or ghost god or son god. No wonder you have difficulty that there is a universal God!

If his dream had been about Jesus Christ you hypocrites would have passed it off as false. Has babs not put up a thread pretending to warn people about those who see Christ in dreams? Why isnt he warning about those who see mosques in their dreams?

Devilsh David! If it has been Jesus that he dreamt about, and i dont know if he will be able to put a face to him, unlike Muhammad who said that whoever saw him in a dream, it i true, because Shaitan can not impersonate him, you would not have told him, it was probably as a result of malaria or all the flimsy excuses and some tht you have given. Advising him not to test out that dream is nothing less than satanic.

What if you have been having a certain dream that is reoccurring as idupaul says about the Mosque, that his mother is even in the dream that he had just today? Would just have passed it off as nothing? If you did, it is a clear sign of foolishness. If I dream about a church, I will go there and see whats inside. Alhamdulillah, I am a muslim, with firm footing in Islam!

- what does your quran say about dreams and how they shld be interpreted?

For one, all the dreams recorded in Qur'an all came true. Muhammad (AS) dreamt about entering Makka victoriously. He did! Its a know fact. Islam teaches that dreams that a true are from Allah. And one should be careful whom one tells a dream to. If idupaul was careful, he would never have told the likes of you who is now a devil advocate, against him going to even visit a mosque! If he had been gutsy enough, he should have been there and get it over with, instead of playing possum with yellow belly. Kore so wun, Dauda. lol.

@Plus_Queen:

1.There is no monarchy in Igboland
2.There is nothing like Anglican of the Methodist sect.

let's move on

My friend, Okechukwu Moshu, in New York City laughed at your silliness of denying that Igbo people don't have kings. he said something about EZE! Then he said something about there is a joke about Igbo people being "stubborn," and unlike the submissive Yoruba people, the Igbos hate to acknowledge the fact that they have royal rulers. When I speak with zainab, tonight, you will be the centre of my joke! The reason is that you are fronting and intentionally deceiving me!

And the Anglican and the Methodist, both are Kufar to me. And I am glad my mother got out of it! Now we can move on, if you can tell me Which God Jesus gave his live to when he gave up the "Ghost"? Or is there a greater God or an equal God to the God that Jesus gave up his ghost to (according to the Christians)?

@Plus_Queen: « #86 on: Yesterday at 10:54:56 PM »

My mother up to the time we had our conversation was a devoted anglican of the methodist sect.


I'll leave other Christians to comment on that highlighted part.
I don't know whether to laugh or to get me a bowl of chocolate chip cookie dough ice cream
chei
I no go die for this nairaland.

So I said, methodist sect and said she was an anglican! Big deal! Anyone who is smart will know that the methodist is a branch of the Anglicans! I remembered her going to Methodist Church and another St Patrick Church! They are both Anglicans. Only dubious mind will not know that a muslim should have to get church names down pack! It tells you how much I am glad my mother is no more a Christian! Anglican is from England, and all these branches, the Methodists, are under its umbrella! "******!" lol.




@bawomolo (m): « #87 on: Yesterday at 11:00:52 PM »
[Quote]
My mother up to the time we had our conversation was a devoted anglican of the methodist sect.

and i was a devoted baptist of the cele sect. cock and bull story[/quote]Good for you, my man. To me, you are still a non-Muslim. As a muslim, I do not have to know everything about Christianity, since you have so much church names springing up on a daily basis. The Idea was that I know
my mother left Church going and calling a human god to the worship of the Invisible and the never can be
humiliated and never debased God, in Islam. Prostrating her face to Him at her old age in her 80s! I guess that
makes your blood boil. I am grateful to Allah who has brought her from the darkness of disbelief to the light of
Islam.

My greatest worries in the past was that she will die and be buried with the disbelievers among those whose grave
bore CROSSES and i would not be able to pray for her! Now, when I prostrate my face I am alsways grateful to Allah
who made her heart turn toward the TRUTH! lol. I am happy and I needed to laugh about it, considering that this is
FRIDAY, also.



@plus_Queen: « #88 on: Yesterday at 11:10:37 PM »

babs who says he was a Christian was probably a devoted cherubim and seraphim of the deeper life sect

Is Cherubim and Seraphim and Deeper life not ideas that are local to Nigeria, now being exported to other
countries? Can we go back in the History of Christianity, say 1500 years ago to see if we can find "Deeper life,"
which ever land Christianity was being practiced then? I know you will not find any! And the way one sect or group
is dying and many replaying it, overnight, who knows what happening to Christianity? Interestingly, wen the
christians don't have anything tangible to say, they cling to what is mundane!

Are you, woman, dissatisfied with the fact that Babs787 left Christianity that you are not even arguing with any
clarity of thought? I was never a Christian, thank God! But Babs787 convertion is amazing and his father converted before he passed (ra). Be reasonable when you present opinion, because what you are now doing is very deceitful.




@pilgrim.1: « #89 on: Yesterday at 11:18:31 PM »

Quote from: plus_Queen on Yesterday at 10:54:56 PM
I'll leave other Christians to comment on that highlighted part.
I don't know whether to laugh or to get me a bowl of chocolate chip cookie dough ice cream
chei
I no go die for this nairaland.

We don see am since, but we no wan talk put!
Kai! There's no competition for testimony naw. . abi wetin dey happen for Nairaland?!?
Lol, I go just maintain. . . "a devoted anglican of the methodist sect"!

Pilgrim.1, my condition in Christianity is exactly like yours in Islam. And the only difference is that I was never a Christian while you claimed that you were once a muslim! While I do not have to know anything about Christianity, you on the other hand had to know about the religion that you professed to practiced, then. But yet, you did not know that going after boys as a girl was a thing forbidden! You did not know that Muhammad (AS) did not say that Christians are bad
people! And yet there are other things you said, while a muslim that was completely wrong in Islam!

I think you are still playing the part now, as you had played in Islam; talking, with a gift of garb, without thorough knowledge. If you did, you would have known that there is no place in Qur'an and or Hadith that Allah has said that
He created human in His "Image!" I hve asked you again to show it and all you have done is to cry "Victimization!"
My dear sister, no one is after you. Definitely, I will not compete with you. I simply told a story of my beloved women;
one my mother and the other my wife! Is that too hard for you to swallow that I may still be blessed with a mother
and then a younger wife, with me performing Zina?

If you knew, then as as a Muslim, you would have easily known that Allah says that He knows everything, and nothing
happens without His knowledge. You would have therefore known that a man who doesnt know the "time of the Hour,"
can never, and I repeat, be a god, deserving any worship! Was that not the same man who prayed and begged and cried to a God? Now the God he was crying to is the Onewho is deserving to be a God! And thats the God my mother
has discovered in Islam! Tough if you have problem with that. She is my mother and she is more of my beloved than a
casual woman!

>just wondering about the Rev. Ann Holmes Redding who was a devoted Episcopalian of the Seattle mosque! <

Who is she? Just wondering, too. Thats why I asked! Orissi risi lonshele sie! You are the Christian and I am not.
I guess the illusion of Paul on you would not let you face reality.



@plus_Queen: « #90 on: Yesterday at 11:36:59 PM »

my sister there's just some things that make absolutely no sense.
[b]How possible is it that a grown man that could be a grandfather who was brought up by a Christian mother,would not know what church his mom went to every week for perhaps 70 years of her life.There are just some things that one is not consciously taught.You just know.[/b]My parents never sat me down to say, baby girl,we are Igbos and you are female.I just knew as I grew up what I was.

Iam not a grandfather yet. When i am, if we are still friend, I will let you know. You will definitely know that you are an igbo and a woman, since you are defined by tongue and gender. Now my mother by her religion, I knew that she was not a muslim, and goes to Church, even in week days and sunday. I knew that her father was one of the one of people who built Methodist Church in Owo.

I knew that she also goes to St patrick Church. These much I know! You should then put 2 and 2 together, if you can put 3 together to make 1! I do not have to be
Christian information precise. Thats for you to do. It is an obligation on you, but not on me. It is you now who have to
tell me that there is no St Patrick and or Methodist Churches! It is you, if you want to correct that could have simply say
that the Anglican denomination or sect does not consist of the Methodist! (Interestingly, somebody just told me that Methodist, Anglican are the same thing. They are both protestants, while they can go to each others churches, it is very rare that they go to Catholic or vice versa).


And you forgot that I did not say my father was a Christian or spoke to my mother about religion. You also forgot that I did not say that I discussed Islam with the mother of my sons! I hope you will then use these information to know that
your assumption is less that correct. Anyway, I am not here to vasilage your heart. Am happy that my mother Victoria samuel, now Mariam is a Muslim.

And even though I didn't accompany my mom and dad to work daily or even weekly,I knew what they did and exactl where they went to work daily.
There are just some stories that just dey me one kain.

I had no interest in Christian, would be a good reason for me not to have paid any attention and any interest in
her Christian live! And if my story is Kain, then imagine the kain heart that took a man for god? Is this heart better than the heart that worshipped "Baal" except man walked and talk and performed miracles, while Baal didnt walk or talk, but might have performed miracles in the lives of those who believed it?

This Igbo people sef.
Inlaw, we got ya

And the yoruba people sef!
I got ya, 2!

@Plus_Queen: « #91 on: Yesterday at 11:44:49 PM »

Quote from: olabowale on October 01, 2008, 04:16 PM
My marriage to a beautiful Igbo Princess

Zainab, is a prince from the royal family of Owerri. She used to hate Islamic call to prayer which she said used to give her headache in addition to bringing sadness. She hated to see people making ablution in preparation to prayers. That gives her skin itches and complete miserablility. And we met in March 2006, and evry changd for her. My first statement to her was that she is beautiful, but as i would love to marry her, I jut do not want to marry another Christian. To my surprise, right away, she said she would convert because it is a way to worship One God without having to go through any one else.

She is right. Today, she is a good woman, in Islam. involved in worldwide charitable events. I am greatful to God Almighty who has shown His favor on my beloved mother and my beloved wife, Zainab "Ndidi Ada."


My dear now you are around my territory.
There is no royal family of Owerri.

lol. You are vey funny. You seem to knowall about Igboland history into the smallest details.
Are you an Igbo Hstorian? I know that each Igbo person will always be attached to a "Village," as if
the towns and cities just sprang up overnight! The fact of the matter is that African traditions tell us
that every village, clan, tribe and community had and continue to have those who are the people who
ascend their traditional ruling posts!

Are Igbo people not from Africa? Is the title of "Obi," not equivalent to the Yoruba "OBA"? Even Ibadan
which I had considered to be a village, because it started with a community leader known as "Baale,"
is now in all its respect has this position elevated to "Oba!" Abbass was one of the past OBA of Ibadan!

I think you are still in your Osu caste system! If this is your mindset, then know that Zainab, Ada, the
first child and the only daughter of her parents is from the topmost of the Igboland tradition. Thats good
enough for me. Infact both of her parents are from Royalty. What is amazing however, is her LOVE for
ALLAH. Considering that she is 6 ft, and georgeous, prostrating her fac to the Most Merciful. You wouldn't
know anything about this, would you, by any stretch of imagination? Prostrating your face to the Creator?

Did you marry an Njemanze ?
I know some of them
There is no royal family in Igboland.
Igbos never had monarchs.
That term is non existent in Igboland.
Chieftaincy is not royalty.
Any body including 419 ers can have them.
So cut that term out.

I can also get Chieftancy in Igboland, if I want. But thats beside the question.
While you have to plenty for yours, I will use my connection within my wife's family
and the leadership of Igboland, both past and current. Alhamdulillah, I got connections.
I wonder why the 419 line? You can do without mentioning flimflamming? Come on, dr!
I do know that Obi is not just a common chieftancy. If it were, you will not just have 1 Obi
in any town that has an Obi. Even Abeokuta, with their sectional kings, these kings are
regarded as royalties. Can anybody in Igboland pay big money and become an Obi of say
Onisha? Don't cheapen the tradition of the Igbo people if you must! And I will ask her about
the Njemanze name. Her maiden name is Onyenaemere if that gives you any clue!

I can get 3 chieftancy titles this Christmas if I wanted to
Is that what they told you in order to charge you a higher dowry
that you were marrying royalty.
Chei

lol. And she is worth everything. The fact that she is a believer makes her head and shoulders
about disbelieving folks! I am not mentioning names now. And she was not told and i didn't
purchase her. Was that the case with an earlier marriage that you know of? Chieftancy is not
the same as Royal family or Royalty. I know the difference. My mother is an Ojomo from Owo
in Ondo state, while I am an Ijebu Ode boy through my father. WE claim our father's heritage
you know. Thats Islamic! Chei. lol.

@JeSoul:

Alhaji, I was just playing with you sir . If you gave me a discounted rate it would probably come attached with fine print that I must convert to islam first abi?

If I have friend(s) who own Hotel(s) in New York City, I would be glad to hook you up, without any strings attached. But I do not. I would have done it without any coersion about any religion. However, after you have seen the good in me, you would have had another opinion about Islam and muslims.